Thon Maker to Breakers? Was released from his contract in Israel a few days ago.

For such a big name, Siva has been underwhelming.
Now he's injured 6 weeks, he’s surely gone.

Agada had a decent game on the weekend but he can’t create his own shot nor finish around the rim. If MU want to be competitive, he has to go.

wont be Thon

Can't see the Breakers signing Thon for Siva. They need a point guard/playmaker.

Tassie, Perth, Cairns and Melbourne need to look at any local bigs. Agada was alright but his shot was inconsistent. United just need another import or local who can help out JLA. Cut Dalton or put Dalton as an emergency player who trains unless another team needs replacement player.

united ain't going to cut anyone locally

Local players and imports that have played in the NBL before have fully guaranteed contracts. If they're to be released their contracts need to be fully paid out. They can remove them from the playing roster sure but still have to keep paying them for the length of their contracts.

First year imports are on non-guaranteed contracts that only become guaranteed at the 25% mark of the season. It's why first year imports regularly get cut early in the season because they don't need to be paid out for the rest of the season.

If it's true Siva is out for six weeks he's as good as gone. No way the Breakers at 0-3 already would be prepared to wait for him to get back when he was struggling anyway.

FWIW I never bought the Breakers/NBL's hype on Siva just because he came from the EuroLeague so did Colton Iverson and look how he turned out.

Are we operating in some hypothetical reality where Colton Iverson wasn't a good player?

Oh yeah he was fantastic , averaged less than 9ppg lol

Siva is legit though but sadly injured. Baffling comment to say he is just hype.

I never said Siva was just hype, try reading next time. I said I never bought all the hype. The NBL hyped up Iverson too who turned out to be a bust and the NZB (Walsh) always hype up their imports.

Oh yeah he was fantastic , averaged less than 9ppg lol

Colton had some crazy games from memory, just couldn't stay out of foul trouble

Iverson did have a couple of very big games which inflated his season averages of 8.8ppg and 8.6rpg. He was worse than that. He was virtually unplayable at times due to how slow, foul prone and offensively limited he was.

Given he came from the EuroLeague I shudder to think what kind of money NZB paid him last season. He likely would've been one of the highest paid imports in the league.

NBL do hype a lot of guys up but in Siva's case for once it was justified.

Iverson got the Websters a ton of points with his ball screens last season. Not everything is on the stats sheet.

Chasson Randle, 119 NBA appearances with 76ers, Knicks, Warriors & Magic.
Signed as an injury replacement.

Colton Iverson wasn't fit when he arrived and once he was he was effective.
He was signed to play pick & roll with Patterson and when Patterson didn’t work out they found WMW who can also play that style.

I left out the Washington Wizards for Chasson Randle.
The 6'2" Point Guard played 41 games for Orlando in the 20/21 season.

Looks to be a pretty good replacement for Siva at such short notice.
NZ are reporting that Siva may be out longer than the initially reported 4-6 weeks.

I think they're getting him on a plane asap.
Abercrombie & Martin are back on court this weekend which will be a massive help.

Factoring in age (over the hill or not), ability, name (reputation) he is actually the most legit ex-NBA player our league has ever seen, apart from Josh Childress. Well, in the last 20 years or so

Yeah pretty awesome last minute injury signing.
He was only waived by the Suns on the 16th of October.
Earliest he is thought to be available with border requirements is this weekend against Melbourne otherwise he'll play against Tasmania on the 26th.

Cotton is next to be replaced. Dud game on Sunday with poor shooting.

Seen too many "fringe" NBA guys show up and underwhelm for any number of reasons to get excited by an import's NBA creds these days before they hit the court, but Randle looks like a very solid signing at this point of the season regardless. Looking forward to seeing him play.

AngusH, I agree about a lot of hyped guys being underwhelming. Coming from the NBA to the NBL is a big culture change, and a lot can't handle it emotionally.

Just thinking quickly about only the game side of things:
different refereeing rules and standards,
different style of game,
more of a team-based approach,
tougher and more physical defence, including targeting of stars,
having to play at both ends of the floor,
having to learn different defences and offenses,
more use of zones and hybrid defences,
being in the spotlight as a superstar so more pressure to perform,
different coaching style and standard,
weaker and less predictable teammates,
...

You’d have to be very tough - but flexible - mentally to overcome all that shit and eventually do well over here.

Siva had a calf injury he was nursing in pre-season and then hurt his hamstring.
We have yet to see the best of him.

With a high caliber replacement coming in Siva doesn't have to rush back and like anon #316 said, he can help with WMW and Hugo Besson's development.

Its interesting that NZB are bringing Randle in as a temp replacement and not fully releasing Siva.

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Its interesting that NZB are bringing Randle in as a temp replacement and not fully releasing Siva.

Iverson was great last season, if I remember correctly then his ankle injury was so bad that his foot was too swollen to remove his shoe and he still had 18 rebounds.

He was a big fella that could be trusted and whilst yes he took time to get used to the speed and officiating, if Cotton got his citizenship Tomorrow and I was told that Iverson was coming in then I'd be delighted as he would set epic screens for our shooters

Without knowing what goes on at training, hard to feel that Mcintosh has had a fair shake yet. Showed a couple of brief glimpses, but feels like he should be getting minutes ahead of a couple of other guys on the rotation.

I was very disappointed to open this thread, and not find any scoops on what Santa was brining on Christmas Eve.

If Cotton got his citizenship Tomorrow and I was told that Iverson was coming in then I'd be delighted as he would set epic screens for our shooters

It's because Morrison isn't as focused on doing too much off the ball, he prefers to just let guys make reads out of on-balls. They do have a few things to get Cotton open coming off screens, but it's not the focus of the offense.

Yup I won't pretend to know what Morrison is running nor do I understand Flex.

I've just noticed that it looks like less movement going on, more so towards the end of the Brisbane game, it was one hand off by Majok then stand back and let Law or Cotton do their thing.

Flex is really not complicated at all, at least in terms of the base set. Obviously the Wildcats were running a bunch of different counters out of it as well, but the general setup is pretty simple.

Yeah, I'm speaking more in terms of LoveBroker understanding it than the complexity of the reads and options that Perth were running out of it.

Morrison's system would likely suit Iverson be better than Gleeson's, given it's all just pick and roll which is where he excelled with the Breakers.