Reader
Two years ago

I have to make big decision about my future: Goorjian

Goorjian's post-match comments implied there's a fair bit of uncertainty about whether he'll continue coaching the Hawks:

https://twitter.com/NBL/status/1520918738593533952

Was it always in the plans that he would only coach a short period? Does this relate to Kordahi leaving as well?

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

I said at the start of the season I think he'll end up at SEM next season. He tried to get a contract extension from the Hawks they wouldn't give it to him now his mate Kordahi has left and Mitchell is out of contract at SEM like Goorj. I know SEM said they want to re-sign Mitchell they've had all season to do that so far nothing announced.

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two years ago

I'd say it potentially goes a bit further. He mentions the Boomers as well. It seems like he may be considering his career overall. More pressing to me would be who is the best replacement for the Boomers should Goorj step down before the world cup/olympic cycle.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Caporn perhaps

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LV  
Two years ago

He's 70 next year. Pretty old for a professional sports coach

About the same age as Lindsay Gaze when he stood down

Wayne Bennett (NRL), Hubie Brown (NBA), Jerry Sloan (NBA), Pop (NBA) are a few that come to mind as older coaches

But I can't recall many that coach to 70 plus, it's an exhausting and demanding job.

Maybe there's some health issues in the background, who knows

I thought SEM had signed Mitchell? If not, I'd love to see Goorj coach there for 2 or 3 years, finish with a title and sail off into retirement, that would be a great way to finish. A swept semi final doesn't fit the brilliance of this guy and his contribution to the NBL

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LV  
Two years ago

Although, if it's a choice between NBA and Boomers, I'd rather he leave NBL and sail off after leading the Boomers to gold in Paris!

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LV  
Two years ago

NBL* and Boomers

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Reader  
Two years ago

He seems to still have a lot of energy and vigor for an older coach though:

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/50023-goorj-timeout/

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two years ago

It does sound like it could be a choice between NBL and Boomers in the way he worded it but my question is why? Wouldnt' they want the Boomers coach to be consistently coaching? Or is BA now asking more of Goorj, that he'd spend time in the states during the season staying in touch with the players or trying to somehow talk Ben Simmons into a role? In a choice between Illawarra and the Boomers the choice would clearly have to be the Boomers you'd think. But given his age BA would be wise to have a clear successor in mind to carry this thing forward. Matty Neilsen, Trevor Gleeson, Caporn spring to mind. Dark horses might be Rob Beveridge, Dean Vickerman... and why not throw a complete left-field suggestion out there - Scott Roth?

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AngusH  
Two years ago

Maybe it's unfair, but I wonder in the NBL how well Roth's approach would work with a more talented side. Maybe just fine if the guys buy in. Sort of feel that assuming the same Boomers spirit carries over as the new guys slot in it's the one group where, despite the immense talent, they would check their egos at the door and play their roles like Roth has the JJs playing. It's an interesting idea.

My preference would be to see Goorj commit to just the national team though if it's an option. At his age it might be a much steadier gig with more down time.

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Jimmyhooper15  
Two years ago

If I'm Perth this is a great chance to get rid of Morrison and get a real coach

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Ben  
Two years ago

The release to me sounds as though he's out the door with his eyes on another spot.

SEM would be a fitting spot. Bogut said weeks ago they’d reappointed Mitchell. Obvs nothing to that effect has been announced. If I’m Tommy, I’m doing everything I can to lure Goorj back to the capital of hoops.

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AngusH  
Two years ago

I don't know who SEM has under contract next year, but they have put together very one dimensional offensive teams so far, minus having a guy like Cleveland to try and make up for the deficiencies elsewhere. Goorj might find it a pretty familiar spot unless he is able to come in and build the team how he wants.

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Ben  
Two years ago

Disregarding roster, why wouldn't he go there. Better resources, support, venue, city.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

He has a house in Melbourne as well.

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Luuuc  
Two years ago

Just from an NBL history POV I think it would be cool if he finished up back in Melbourne.
(Would be even nicer if that could happen after a little longer in Wollongong though. I like the way things have turned around there)

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Observer  
Two years ago

Goorg unlucky missing out ,just beaten by better teams ,hawks have a good team just pity they had to play Sydney.
Hope Goorg can go on one more season

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

I can't imagine how frustrating it would be for Goorj having to coach XRM. I feel for the guy.

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Yup  
Two years ago

I gotta say, he's been great but at times he's looked a little old n tired, certainly not used to seeing him like that, he's been deferring to Jakomas a lot also, never seen Goorj defer to assistants before, been watching him for 30 years...

In terms of a Boomers replacement its Gleeson then daylight, more daylight, and then even more daylight...

Capron and Nielson can be AC

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AngusH  
Two years ago

I noticed that with Jakomas also but thought he was probably working on developing him also as a head coach.

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Sebastian  
Two years ago

The current older brigade hate Gleeson so that isn't happening

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Reader  
Two years ago

"The current older brigade hate Gleeson so that isn't happening"

The older brigade would be well on their way to being washed up by the next Olympics so it should be more about the next generation

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Reader  
Two years ago

Liam Santa says he doesn't think Goorj will return to Illawarra next season. I think it will be SEM.

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Anonymightymouse  
Two years ago

"In terms of a Boomers replacement its Gleeson then daylight, more daylight, and then even more daylight..."

After the way Beveridge had the team playing on a couple of training sessions in Feb he would certainly have impressed those who make the decisions. He has long-standing relationships with many in the current team too.

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Mystro  
Two years ago

Beveridge or Vickerman would be my picks. Gleeson has the credentials but positions like this require building relationships with the NBA guys to keep them involved and engaged in the program and a certain degree of ego massaging.

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Cram  
Two years ago

I hope Goorj stays on with the Boomers until after Paris. I would personally contribute cash to BA's account if needed for him to do the Boomers gig alone.

If he steps down then I would like Bevo to take over. Gleeson is obviously a talented coach, but I wouldnt want someone who's primary focus is an NBA team as that leaves little time for international ball.

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Reader  
Two years ago

Bevo is a strange one. Has good coaching results seemingly everywhere he's been, yet most nbl clubs don't seem interested in him. Why is that

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Isaac  
Two years ago

Is he interested in them? I wondered if he'd moved on from the game, or the game had moved past him?

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hoopie  
Two years ago

A good Euro coach would be a good option, but they don't come cheap.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

Bevo is a strange one. Has good coaching results seemingly everywhere he's been, yet most nbl clubs don't seem interested in him. Why is that

Word out of the Gong towards the end of Bevo's time as head coach was that he was dropping the ball and lazy. Perhaps he lost motivation? There was a sensitive issue with his son which perhaps was a factor?

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two years ago

"The older brigade would be well on their way to being washed up by the next Olympics so it should be more about the next generation"

So you dont think Patty Mills and Ingles will be highly prominent players come Paris? I also think Baynes could be as well depending how he bounced back

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Sebastian  
Two years ago

What like Shamir Hoopie lol

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ME (he/kangaroo)  
Two years ago

https://nbl.com.au/news/jackomas-takes-over-hawks-reigns-from-mentor-goorjian


Goorj is stepping aside from coaching the Hawks but will be manager of basketball operations . Is remaining coach of the Boomers. Interesting decision.

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Outlook  
Two years ago

Welcome to Perth

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hoopie  
Two years ago

Sebastian, I said "good". Like a top or second-tier Serbian, Croatian, French, etc. Not an NBA coach cos Euro style is closer to ours and most other teams.

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UseTaHoop  
Two years ago

I've never thought of Goorj as 70 years old, but it would fit the timeline.

I’d like to see him coach the Boomers including NBA players. Let Nielsen or the chosen successor coach the NBL Boomers in qualification and local tournaments.

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UseTaHoop  
Two years ago

The chosen successor would depend upon BA having a well thought out succession plan. Not sure about that.

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