Weedy Slug
Two years ago

U15 Oceania teams announced

https://australia.basketball/u15-fiba-oceania-championship-teams-named/



Girls
Head Coach - Zoe Carr
Assistant Coach – Sarah Graham
Assistant Coach – Nic Martin

Zara Russell ACT
Jade Crook NSW
Jessie-May Hall NSW
Zoe Jackson NSW
Ruby Perkins NSW
Alleah Hanson QLD
Vahayliah Seumanutafa QLD
Emma Petrie QLD
Sienna Lehmann SA
Emilija Dakic VIC
Sitaya Fagan VIC
Sophie Taylor VIC



Boys
Head Coach – Ash Arnott
Assistant Coach – Curtis Sardi
Assistant Coach – Jamie Petty

Lachlan Clague NSW
Indy Cotton QLD
Sam Hughes SA
Nash Walker TAS
Harrison Beauchamp VIC
Edward Brammall VIC
Ryder Cheesman VIC
Dash Daniels VIC
Lachlan Kanngiesser VIC
Henry Sewell VIC
Maxwell Bucknell WA
Aaron Gashaw WA

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Same shite, different smell it seems....

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Frisbee14  
Two years ago

Jamie Petty???

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

You have to lol when you go to coaching clinics run by hp managers and they tell you that we need more ball handlers, distributors and shooters and then they just end up picking the biggest teams possible with none of those attributes.


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Bballfan  
Two years ago

I only know of a couple of these girls.....which ball handlers, shooters and distributors should be in?

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

% Shooters

Good
5'6 Perkins 1
6’1 Taylor 3-4

Ok
5’7 Hall 2-1
5’8 Seumanutafa 2-1

Not good
5’7 Lehmann 1
5’9 Dakic 1-2
6’0 Petrie 3-4
6’1 Russell 4-3
6’2 Hanson 4-5
6’2 Fagan 4-5
6’3 Jackson 5
6’3 Crook 5


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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Missing imo

Both over Lehmann
Fotu - + ball handler, scorer, passer, shooter, - defender
Hodges - + ball handler, shooter, defender, - passer

Both over Petrie
Corasaniti - + hustle, defender, shooter, ball handler, - height
Nousis - + slasher, scorer, better rebounder, - shooter


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Esky68  
Two years ago

pfft

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Outside of the ajc, obviously Somfai and maybe Notoa would be in.

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KA  
Two years ago

Having seen a fair bit if the Centrals kid that went to camp I am surprised he did not make this side. This kid has the highest ceiling too.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Surprised Pech didn't get chosen, I think gashaw only played 1-2 games.

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XXXX  
Two years ago

I'd class Hall as a good shooter, her and Taylor can both make shots off the dribble and off movement. Perkins shot well at AJC's but seemed more comfortable with stationary catch and shoot shots off kickouts. She played well but didn't shoot well at the Classic where she had the pressure of being the main offensive threat. Seumanutafa is a pretty good shooter, not as good as the Hall or Taylor but definitely capable.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

I used collective stats over both ajcs and domestic competition.

35-40% good
30-35% ok
20-30% not good
2 guards above shot just 13-18%


Easily win oceanias but imo a few players from our best team.
Unfortunately by not selecting them, 2 are likely to focus on a different sport, 1 could possibly switch countries and 1 that wasnt apart of 'the program' has been overlooked.

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XXXX  
Two years ago

Stats are good but you have to account for difficulty as well, Seth Curry has a better % from 3 than his brother but I don't think anyone would argue who is the better shooter. I think stats have overrated Perkins shooting and underrated Hall and Seumanutafa. Given Taylor maintained a good % on high volume and was the main focus of her team's offence I would have her clearly rated as the best shooter in the group.

I don't think there is much argument that they are the best 4 shooters in the squad though.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

I mean they are all there because they have different attributes and something to offer.
Just not sure what you are exactly getting from Lehmann, Petrie, Russell, Hanson. As I said I think better options are available, just not selected.
Don't get me wrong it’s a great team, all great players, just could be significantly better.

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XXXX  
Two years ago

Lehman is good, she's more an undersized three than a guard but should be there. Every girl on that list is talented and has a chance to be very good but if they want to do well in the subsequent tournaments, they need shooting around Hall and they need some more shot creators so it's not all on her. These players are available in the age group but not in this squad, which is disappointing.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

At nationals...

From 3

Guards
Perkins 40% 8/20
Hall 35% 16/46
Lehmann 11% 1/9
Seumanutafa 38% 9/24
Dakic 20% 3/15
Thomson 26% 9/34
-
NS-Fotu 34% 26/77
NS-Hodges 45% 18/40
NS-Corasaniti 41% 13/32


Small Forwards
Taylor 33% 22/67
Petrie 17% 1/6
Russell 11% 2/18
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NS-Nousis 0% 0/2
NS-Bijkerk 37% 7/19


Can clearly see the problem….



Guards ajc, out of the above
Better passer - Fotu
Better defender - Dakic
Better points - Hall
Better assists - Hall
Better rebounder - Hall
Better steals - Corasaniti
Better ball handler - Fotu
Better ft shooter - Perkins
Better 3pt shooter - Hodges
Better fg% - Perkins
Highest turnovers - Thomson
Highest bball iq - Fotu
Most potential - Hall


When you just look at the stat line on the sheet, some look better than they are, dive deeper and it's a different story.

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XXXX  
Two years ago

For most of them you can expand the sample size by looking at the Classic Stats. It doesn't have attempts, but it does show both Hall and Taylor making a lot of 3's, Taylor 14 from 6 games and Hall 10 from 6. Hodges 8 from 6 and Perkins 2 from 6.

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SP  
Two years ago

Yeah Hall is easily a better shooter than Perkins from what I've seen. Hodges' exclusion is baffling - she had a good AJCs and she fills a role, but there will be future opportunities and it's a solid squad overall.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

You bring 4 centers (crook, jackson, fagan, hanson) and 3 other forwards (Taylor, Russell, petrie) who played either pf or c for the state team.
I have no idea why we continue to do this when our struggle in majors is mobility, tempo, 3 point shooting, mid range shooting, in ya face defence, ball handling, dribble driving etc


Look at the u17 Aus selection earlier this year in which they hardly used 6 players, Bradley, Hanson, betson, Portlock, Gray, Bobongie and the other players had to play 27-34 mins a game. 4 forwards avg between 2-12 mins.

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benchballer  
Two years ago

Stats were pretty irrelevant from the AJC in the boys side too, only need to look at who didn't even get a squad selection in the first place V who were lucky enough to get a chance. Even injured got a chance, without anything too fantastic before injury, suggests squad was pre booked. Looks like the more versatile players over looked for single positional players.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Exactly, you are right benchballer, looked booked in before camp.
Selecting 1 guy after 1 game...

If you can play well in a 2 day camp at the ais, everything prior to that means very little it seems.

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SixersFan  
Two years ago

Weedy Slug if the choice came down to Hodges and Lehman or Hodges and someone else then perhaps there were other variables at play for example motivation. Lets say as an example Lehman's motivation is 9 out of 10 whilst Hodges is a 6. I would imagine the selectors would go for Lehman even if Hodges had a slight advantage in other areas.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

I wouldnt have gone for either, both I'd have as reserves.

The others I’m a fan of are

07 Fotu PG
07 Notoa PG
07 Corasaniti SG
08 Nousis SF
07 Somfai PF
-
07 Mailei C - chose to play for Samoa.

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Esky68  
Two years ago

lmao jamie petty

hahahaha

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Boys teams

Guam
Australia
Micronesia
New Zealand
Northern Mariana islands
Papua New Guinea
Samoa


Girls teams

Guam
Australia
New Zealand
Northern Mariana islands
Papua New Guinea
Samoa





Pretty crazy to see Mariana islands enter teams into almost all sports recently with just 55,000 population whilst countries like Fiji, New Caledonia, Tahiti, Solomon Islands have struggled entering teams for sometime.

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Perthworld  
Two years ago

The difference, from a basketball participation perspective, is cultural based on Mariana being an overseas territory of the US.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

mead called up to replace someone who is injured.
Appears to be seumanutafa although dakic has also been taken off the final list on fiba for some reason.

Of all the players, didn't expect another small forward to replace a sg, oh wait...
Mead averaged about 7-5-2 at ajcs, 14% 3 pt, 44% fg, 80% ft.

Another odd choice imo, clearly another coach that thinks size is the answer.


Once again, some dam good players missing out.

Fotu
Hodges
Corasaniti
De Dios
Nousis
Reisinger
Bijkerk
Francis
Etc etc
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Notoa
Somfai



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Bballfan  
Two years ago

The SA High Performance list included Somfai recently. Appears to be back in the fold and will now have availability for the national team IF she demonstrates she deserves it.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Well shes tall, so she'll probably get picked next year.

I heard they were extremely close to picking another 6’3 post player on top of Hanson, fagan, jackson and crook (all 6’2-6’3) and big forwards Russell, Petrie, Taylor and now mead. (All 6’0-6’1)
Hall, Perkins, Lehmann and dakic the only guards now.

Significantly less threat from 3, only 3 shooters on the whole squad, hall, Perkins and Taylor. 35+%, The rest 11%-20%

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Yep  
Two years ago

Dakic out injured with ACL. Probably why she has been taken off the list.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

So who's the other person in?

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JJ  
Two years ago

Seumanutafa Is out done ACL over a month ago. Notoa also out for 6months with MCL.

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JJ  
Two years ago

Seumanutafa Is out done ACL over a month ago. Notoa also out for 6months with MCL.

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JJ  
Two years ago

Seumanutafa Is out done ACL over a month ago. Notoa also out for 6months with MCL.

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Hmmm  
Two years ago

That is terrible news all the ACL injuries in these young athletes!

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XXXX  
Two years ago

Perkins is the only real point, neither Hall nor Lehman play point at club level although I'm sure Hall would be good there (or anywhere for that matter). Taylor can run an offence pretty well, I saw Dandenong use her in that role in the Classic and she did a good job setting up scoring opportunities for their guards, maybe they can use her a bit there.

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Hmmm  
Two years ago

Bring in Dimarco (BVC) Strong defender, lightning quick, pass first and can shoot the 3

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

I'd bring in Fotu, the best passer in Aus womens junior hoops by some margin.
Dakic defence and seumanutafa scoring big losses. Add to that no somfai or Notoa.
Just more forwards added,
Petrie, Mead very lucky imo, thought Reisinger was better on the qld sth squad and Nousis offers alot more than mead.

Would love to know who the selector was if anyone knows...

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XXXX  
Two years ago

Have to agree with Hmmm, Dimarco was one of the best performed PG's at the AJC's and would be a very suitable replacement for Dakic. That Vic Country team should have had more representatives at the selection camp, the way they all stood up as a group and individually after losing Taylor was amazing. With Carr being the coach now I'm sure there will be more of them considered in future.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Yes with carr the hc, you'd think Dimarco and de Dios would get a camp invite atleast.


Assume the lineup in a few days will be

Perkins - Lehmann
Hall - ?*
Taylor - Petrie - Mead*
Fagan - Russell - Hanson
Crook - Jackson

*Called up
Mead

Out injured
Seumanutafa - ACL
Dakic - ACL


Did not make the cut
Fotu PG
Thompson SG
Nousis G/F
Bijkerk CF
Francis PF
Crase PF
Stewart C
Juffermans C
Buttsworth C
Smart C
Mcrea C

Did not even make camp
Dimarco PG
Mccowan PG
Hearn PG
Hodges CG
Bond SG
Corasaniti SG
De Dios G/F
Notoa CG
Cougle SF
Reisinger SF
Somfai CF


Aus selectors really looking like fools atm imo.

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hoopie  
Two years ago

Weedy, either it's incompetence (which will get found out), or they’re looking for something specific (which they should communicate), or politics is tying their hands.

I’ve believed for a long time that CoE gets priority in teams because of the amount of money invested in it. If CoE players weren’t good enough on merit, then a lot of people in the hierarchy would lose credibility and power and funding.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Correct.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Bringing only 11 players in the girls, pretty scummy by BA. Had plenty of time to replace injured players.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Game 1

Crocs vs Guam
136 - 35

S5 - Daniels PG, Walker SG, Beauchamp SF. Brammall PF, Bucknell C

Best performer
Beauchamp 19/6/4/1



Sapphires vs Samoa
105 - 36

S5 - Lehmann PG, Hall SG, Taylor SF, Fagan PF, Jackson C

Best performer
Hall 26/2/3/6

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benchballer  
Two years ago

Congrats on the wins, but we not really learning much with 100 point wins are we. Is there tougher competition to come?

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Not really in this tournament.
Asia will be tough mid next year.

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Manders  
Two years ago

There are 168,000 people in Guam. 25% are under 15. Assuming an even spread across that cohort, there are about 1,400 boys and 1,400 girls to choose from, assuming they all play. But reality is that there are only about 1,000 youth basketballers, across all age groups.

So, actually think they outperformed against Australia.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Not true, you don't have to be born in Guam, just heritage.
Most of the Samoan players are Aussies.

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Manders  
Two years ago

Righto. Point remains.

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Manders  
Two years ago

NZ were good.

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Weedy Slug  
Two years ago

Final

Boys
Australia beat nz 85-74

Daniels and Walker all star 5


Girls
Australia beat nz 100-54

Hall, Lehmann and Taylor all star 5


Qualify to asia
B
Aus
Nz
Guam

G
Aus
Nz
Samoa

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Piggy backing of oceania champs

U16 asia girls in 5/6 weeks. Boys in September.
Aussie team should be out soon.


Nz announced women's team, significantly better side than the u15 team last year, 5 newcomers.


NZ u16
5’6 P.Hokianga
5’8 A.Nelson
5’8 C.Enriquez-Paea* -was apart of the qld s u16 ajc team who placed 5th
5’8 K.Hippolite* -was apart of the qld s u16 ajc team who placed 5th
5’9 E.Rogers
5’10 C.Thomson* -was apart of the nsw m u16 ajc team who won gold
5’10 W.Douglas-Karauna
5’10 B.Flavell
5’10 G.Parahi
5’11 S.Hickey
6’0 K.Williams-Sefo* -was nz nationals mvp, back from injury
6’1 J.Mailei* -was starting C for nsw m at u16 ajc who won gold

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Looks to be 23 players in camp for sapphires from photos
Few surprises. Clearly still a few injuries.

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Pinch  
Last year

List?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Hard to tell

For sure 17
Perkins
Hall
Lehmann
Fotu
Corasaniti
Hodges
Notoa
Aherne
Petrie
Taylor
Mead
Russell
Somfai
Fagan
Hanson
Crook
Jackson

The other 6 difficult to tell in photos.
Think I know 5 of em but i couldn't be certain so I won’t list them.

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Pinch  
Last year

Buttsworth and Reisinger from QLD

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Interpreter  
Last year

From what I can tell the other 4 are:

Thompson
Smart
Dimarco
Juffermans

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Yeah that's who I got, is Bijkerk injured along with dakic + seumanutafa?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Clearly they want fagan as they didnt bring many 08s I guess because of u16 ajcs.

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Pinch  
Last year

No Juffermans

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Doubt the squad will change that much from u15.
Asia teams are all small and quick, will be tough.

I'd go with
Perkins
Hall
Lehmann
Corasaniti
Taylor
Mead
Russell
Somfai
Fagan
Crook
Jackson

+1 of

Dimarco(perimeter defense)
Notoa(iq)
Juffermans(active post player)

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Kemp? Looks to the only other 08.

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Interpreter  
Last year

Apologies: one of the bigs looks like Juffermans in BA's low-res photo.

No idea regarding Bijkerk, but that was a notable omission for me too.

NSW and QLD with the most selections, as expected. Victoria with 3 has to be a new low, especially since one is an 08 in Fagan.

SA getting snubbed with selections by BA and you Weedy! You're probably not wrong though.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

You would have Hodges I'm guessing?

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Interpreter  
Last year

U18 gold and U16 silver (notably without Somfai) would suggest there are some potential omissions.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

With dakic defense missing and seumanutafa offense, the hard working big missing, will be a tougher task qualyfying for WC.

The nz new additions are no joke, Sefo and Mailei are great additions, Japan are apparently very good. The rise of China in the women's game, high expectations, Korea + Taipei always quick early jnr level. Samoa would be good too if they got most from nz or Aus, looks like they could have had 2-3 from nz, 3-4 from Aus who declined.

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XXXX  
Last year

One of the girls there is Issy Whiteman from Melb Tigers, pretty surprised not to see Josie Agnew given she went to the COE camp in Jan and has been performing pretty well on Friday nights.

The lack of Vic girls is firmly in the hands of last years u16 State coach who did an awful job at selection and then managing the team she had, which was far more talented than their performances showed.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Same for this year, vic selection.

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XXXX  
Last year

I agree!

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

The vic program went to shite in just 2.5 years. The vjbl season is showing that they got the squad horribly wrong.

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XXXX  
Last year

The State teams picked the last few years, and even SDP, are a poor representation of the talent within the State. Look at Lily Carmody, who is a DP in the WNBL and just finished her first Oz camp, but didn't make the State u18 side last year. There are plenty of others like her too.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

If Mcmechan and Fakalata dont play well, sa m, qld s, nsw m, qld n will crush them. Could see them out of medals and not make too 4 which should be a wake up call.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Tom Garlepp is now the u15 HC, not sure what happened to carr.
Martin still appears to be the assistant.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

23
Dimarco vic c 07 pg
Perkins nsw m 07 pg
Hall nsw m 07 sg/pg
Lehmann sa c 07 pg
Fotu wa c 07 pg
Corasaniti wa c 07 sg
Hodges sa m 07 sg/pg
Thompson sa c 07 sg
Notoa qld s 07 pg/sg
Aherne tas 07 sf/sg
Petrie qld s 07 sf
Taylor vic m 07 sf
Mead nsw m 07 sf
Reisinger qld s 07 sf
Russell act 07 sf/pf
Somfai sa m 07 pf/sf
Wightman vic m 07 pf
Fagan vic m 08 pf/c
Hanson qld s 07 pf/c
Kemp wa m 08 pf/c
Crook nsw c 07 c
Buttsworth qld s 07 c
Jackson nsw m 07 c

5 qld s
4 nsw m
2 sa m
2 vic m
2 vic c
2 sa c
2 wa c
1 nsw c
1 wa m
1 tas
1 act

very unlucky not to make it, surely reasons for
Bijkerk
Juffermans
Others?

Probably would make it
Seumanutafa(inj)
Dakic(inj)

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Footloose  
Last year

XXXX Carmody missed selection in U18's - her rep coach was the State coach.

She made U20’s last year, they came 2nd, I didn’t follow it, so am not sure how she did.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Taylor vic c *

Anyone know who made the u19 WC squad? Should be out real soon.

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Pinch  
Last year

I heard Hanson didn't and then decided to leave COE until she goes to college. Originally was going to stay until she went. Rumours as this stage.

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XXXX  
Last year

Footloose - That was weird, but he was only pretty new to Bulleen then, having been at Dandenong previously. He picked a Dandenong guard who he had coached previously, and he had a few NPP guards he probably was under pressure to pick. Regardless, the fact that Carmody was a starter in NBL1 and played WNBL before she played in a Vic team is an indictment on BV.

The number of QS girls is weird given they were pretty bad at last years AJC. Bijkerk and Finney from NSW both have performed more than well enough for an invite and are exactly the sort of players they should be looking at. The more shooters the better to maximise the space for Hall.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

and Bijkerk can defend unlike the other sfs.

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Pinch  
Last year

Summah Hanson just signed with Logan NBL1...so must have been true as she played with the COE on the weekend.

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TRFC  
Last year

Any ideas when u16 girls Aus team for Asia will be announced?

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benchballer  
Last year

^ After the Nationals in July I suggest?

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Interpreter  
Last year

The athletes have already been told and to my knowledge there might be one current U16 that was selected, if any. You may be right but it's an odd decision.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Fagan probably the on,y 08 chosen and one who will skip u16 for Aus.
Hopefully just somfai, fagan, jackson and crook in the big department for asia. More than that against Asian opponents would be stupid.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

U16 boys list starting to appear

VIC
Beauchamp
Brammall
Cheeseman
Coleman
Daniels
Duff-Tytler
Kanngiesser
Kuany
Pilimai
Sewell

WA
Gashaw
Bucknell

QLD
Cotton

TAS
Walker

ACT
Nyuon

NSW
...

SA


NT

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TRFC  
Last year

Boys NSW
Ansuh-Yeboah
Clague
Lau

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Less than I expected, thought atleast 5.
What happened to pech?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

SA
Dickeson
Hughes
Mackenzie
Manyang



Squad?

Cheeseman / Yeoboah
Daniels / Cotton
Beauchamp / Duff-Tytler / Walker
Brammall / Gashaw / Kuany
Bucknell / Clague


Unfortunately, if anyone has been watching u16 Americas, this team would get absolutely slaughtered if we made it to the WC. Not sure we are even gold medal favourites for asia.

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benchballer  
Last year

Weedy, I see three of the names you have mentioned including one in your squad didn't go to the U18 nationals... were they injured?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Not selected for u18

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Pasadena 72  
Last year

I don't recognise Dickeson or Manyang from either SA team this year. What can you tell me about them Weedy?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Dickeson is a sg playing nbl1 and Manyang a hard working pf/c

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Dickeson had his best game last week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKI-pa6al8c

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benchballer  
Last year

Dickeson, best under 18 male in SA by a fairly large margin at the moment.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Unfortunately another one that BA has overlooked.
Somfai on the women's side overlooked for along time and now seen as the cats pyjamas by BA. First 07 at Coe. Mvp u18 ajc.

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XyZ  
Last year

what happened to the other NSW players (Metro & Country).

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Not selected.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

FIBA U16 WOMEN'S ASIAN CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM

https://australia.basketball/sapphires-squad-named-for-fiba-u16-womens-asian-championship/

Lucy Aherne TAS
Jade Crook NSW
Sitaya Fagan VIC
Jessie-May Hall NSW
Coco Hodges SA
Zoe Jackson NSW
Sienna Lehmann SA
Prasayus Notoa QLD
Ruby Perkins NSW
Zara Russell ACT
Lara Somfai SA
Sophie Taylor VIC


Mead probably unlucky. Not a great defensive side chosen.

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SP  
Last year

They actually have more than three guards on the roster so it's a step up from the Oceania U15 team. A couple more shooters too.

It looks like a decent enough team to me. Hope they can challenge for the title.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

The oceania team only had 11 players.

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hoopie  
Last year

And more SA than Vic players ... wow!

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

U15 Oceania
Lehmann - Perkins
Hall - Petrie
Taylor - Russell - Mead
Fagan - Hanson
Jackson - Crook

To

U16 Asia
Lehmann - Perkins
Hall - Hodges - Notoa
Taylor - Russell - Aherne
Somfai - Fagan
Jackson - Crook

To

U17 WC?


Dissapointed I didn't get to see 1 of Fotu or Corasaniti. Mead over Aherne for me.

Seumanutafa and Dakic still to comeback from injury although both still eligible for other countries.

Maybe Gardiner has a slim chance for WC with a good nationals?

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SabreTooth  
Last year

Gardiner has been significantly better than Fagan every time they've been head to head. Different positions I guess.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Be interesting to see how Lehmann goes against Asian opponents, not sold on her ball handling. Perkins and Notoa safer options.

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Interpreter  
Last year

Probably not 2022 AJC's to be fair Sabre, but since then absolutely. I'm not sure they are even different positions really - just different players. Fagan is a great prospect though, so the selection makes sense.

Gardiner not even making the training camp just demonstrates that the people paid to oversee our HP programs aren't watching and listening closely enough. Her and Fagan will be at the CoE before too long.

Agree with your points Weedy, except the WA girls: good players but not better than others like Mead. Also Aherne can only play as a big from what I've seen. This is not a knock on her, but taking her to Asia over another guard is repeating the same mistake, even if it's not as obvious as previous years.

I don't know about Lehmann's dribbling against the pressure they'll come up against, but her passing at 2022 AJCs was elite.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Mead is a 6'1 sf, not a guard
Aherne is a 6’0 g/f, not a pf
Fotu a 5’8 a pg
Corasaniti a 5’8 sg

Mead or Notoa in aherne spot + Fotu or Corasaniti would have been my choice.

Come next year, seumanutafa s scoring is very much needed + dakics d

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Interpreter  
Last year

I wasn't suggesting that Mead was a guard. She's a better player, better fit, and isn't another big. Maybe a little too similar to Taylor for the coaches' liking? I could understand that.

Long-term I agree about Aherne, but the tournament is in months, not years. Nothing about her stats, the position she played at AJCs, or her skillset convince me she's a G/F against smaller, quicker Asia teams.

There are better '08 guards than those two from WA in my opinion.

Realistically Seumanutafa and Dakic would solve some problems as you pointed out.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Which 08 guards?

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Interpreter  
Last year

Nousis is the most obvious one, although I understand she's been injured this year.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Nousis is a good 08 but cannot shoot at all.
Apart from Gardiner, Fagan and Juffermans, I see no other 08 with a shot at the WC.



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XyZ  
Last year

strong team. Mead is very good and unlucky to not get picked. That said coach is exceptional and has picked this team with a clear strategy in mind.
Will be keen to see whether there are any significant changes in the Boys team.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Feel bad for Samoa, 2 staff and a volunteer it seems vs 9 staff on the Japanese side.

Early games
Korea beat Syria 91-58
Chinese Taipei beat Thailand 117-28

Quick and small teams in asia once again, hope we haven't made a mistake going super big again, we have by far the biggest team avg 6’0.

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Pinch  
Last year

Need to rely on Halls speed a lot to match the speed of the Asian teams. If we can rebound and break out we should do ok but need to be finishing at a high level.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Juffermans domination in the post got us the gold in 2021.
This tournament will be more of a collective effort.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Japan bear Samoa easy 106-28

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SP  
Last year

I hope there's enough shooting on the team. Hall's outside shooting at the AJCs wasn't great and Lehmann barely has an outside shot. Taylor is another shooter who was off at AJCs. Somfai should feast inside.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

India pulled out, think they should have promoted a div b side to make it even 10 teams. Phillipines maybe.. or the hosts jordan.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

The Japanese clearly want gold, 1/3 of the vid they talk about dealing with Australia's physicality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsms253nBPA



You think Aus coaches put in this much effort?

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XyZ  
Last year

does anyone know where they are showing these game? Is it under the BA youtube link?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

YouTube fiba channel.

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SabreTooth  
Last year

No Somfai?

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LC  
Last year

71-6 at half time. Ouch! Thailand look WAAAY out of their depth.

Somfai may be injured...has not played in this game yet but is listed.

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SixersFan  
Last year

Somfai is sick. I don't think she is even on the bench

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Nup, not on bench, looks to be kept away from team. Hopefully recovers before end of group stage.

Cant really take anything from this match, next 2 games will be a different story. 2 good Asian teams usually fighting for a top 4 spot.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Up 42-22 at the half vs Korea.
Ended up 71-53 at FT.
Not a great performance all round today.
Half way through the 2nd, whole team kinda lost the plot and Garlepp seem to struggle getting them to focus. Game was a mess after the half.

Perkins the best today.
3 maybe 4 players struggling early, could see them getting swapped out before WC.
Another DNP for Somfai.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Half way through the tournament.

Averages (Minutes, Points/Rebound/Assists/Steals)

Perkins 26m, 16/4/5/4
Taylor 25m, 8/9/2/2
Hodges 22m, 9/8/2/6
Lehmann 21m, 9/3/5/2
Hall 21m, 19/3/4/2
Crook 20m, 10/11/1/3
Notoa 19m, 7/4/2/0
Russell 15m, 9/6/2/1
Fagan 13m, 8/4/1/3
Aherne 13m, 3/3/1/1
Jackson 11m, 4/3/1/1
Somfai 0m, 0/0/0/0

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LC  
Last year

Hall has been super impressive. Hodges has been really disruptive on D too.
I think Fagan deserves more minutes based on our performance when on court too.

However we are yet to play the better teams in Japan and China. Bigger challenges still to come.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Fagan looks great but like you said only getting the 13 mins.
Jackson although not playing much should be getting atleast 15-16 mins against these early teams.
Somfai still yet to even show.

Imo can't see Aherne or Notoa playing WC.
Think you have to also cut one of Lehmann or Hodges unfortunately.

Have to find room for
Seumanutafa- scoring
Dakic- defense
Mead or another wing/forward that can defend, Gardiner, Bijkerk etc

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