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2023 OPALS SQUAD CAMP

https://australia.basketball/opals-extended-squad-announced/

PG
5'5 S.Reid
5’5 T.Mangakahia
5’6 S.Heal
5’6 M.Rocci

PG/SG
5’10 S.Whitcomb
5’10 J.Melbourne
5’11 K.Wallace

SG
5’10 S.Swain
5’11 I.Borlase
5’11 L.Nicholson

SG/SF
6’0 T.Madgen
6’2 S.Talbot
6’2 R.Allen

SF
6’0 A.Atwell
6’2 N.Puoch

SF/PF
6’1 A.Maley
6’1 C.Bibby
6’2 K.Froling
6’2 S.Blicavs

PF
6’2 D.Garbin
6’3 A.Smith

PF/C
6’4 E.Magbegor
6’4 C.George

C
6’4 Z.Aokuso
6’5 L.Scherf
6’5 M.Tolo
6’7 S.Portlock



Overlooked
5’6 G.Amoore
5’8 T.Lavey
5’9 J.Shelley
5’10 A.Wehrung
6’1 A.Sharp
6’2 A.Kunek
6’2 C.Horvat
6’5 A.Bunton

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

From this group, Atm I got


Reid 1
Whitcomb 1-2
Melbourne 2-1
Wallace 2-1
Talbot 2-3
Allen 3-4
Maley 3-4
Blicavs 4-3
Smith 4-5
Magbegor 4-5
George 5-4
Tolo 5


Reserves
Rocci 1
Swain 2
Nicholson 2-3
Froling 4-3
Garbin 4
Scherf 5


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Pinch  
Last year

I like it however thinking Rocci for Reid and a ? If you take Smith out for Scherf. Scherf seems to have Decent foot speed, maybe enough to play sections of games at the 4.

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Pinch  
Last year

C.George 19/12/5
L.Scherf 15/10/5

WNBL stats to date.

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SP  
Last year

Scherf does not have the speed to play the 4 at the international level.

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Pinch  
Last year

Her shooting and passing ability will give her space on the offence side of the floor. Defensively maybe not.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Yeah, her value is as a 5 IMO. She might have to wait for Tolo or George to go before finding room in the 12 because positionally I don't see her pushing Smith or Garbin out.
Purely on form and ability I'd happily have her in the 12 though. I think she is ready.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

The WC squad was 1 forward or big heavy imo, even after Allen went down early with injury, they never found minutes for Maley. Smith was not even selected and Garbin was rarely called upon.

Why would you replace a 'retired' jackson with Scherf if the problem was guard depth, Whitcomb was spent in that China game, there was a lack of 3 pt shooting and Madgen proved that she was not capable of playing big minutes at the 1.

With
Allen, Blicavs, Maley capable of playing small 4.
Magbegor, (smith or Garbin), George playing big 4.
Magbegor, Smith, George + Tolo also play the 5.

Adding Scherf to the above means you have now 5 centre options and you end up with only 4 guards, 1 of which is Talbot who is not running the point but is another versatile 2-3-4.


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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Pinch,

In the Eurocup...

Smith is averaging 20.3 - 8.5 - 2.1 - 1.9
79 ft%, 40 3pt%, 53fg%


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Pinch  
Last year

Just throwing it out there as a discussion point. I think she mirrors George's abilities. Not your typical 4 but can play small minutes there as a facilitor. Once george retires she is next in line at the 5. Not a bad next gen player.

Good to see Smith doing well in the Euro cup. Haven’t been keeping tabs but liked her game last WNBL season.

Agree with your thoughts. Just like to throw a different view point to keep discussion fresh.

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Pinch  
Last year

On a seperate note, I've been to ECC, ACJBC and SCC over the last few weeks and the future is bright for the girls side of things.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Who were your standouts at scc and ecc?

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Pinch  
Last year

ECC I was only there for a few games but 2008 group

SA big (didn't get her name) mobile, finished well.
Fagan VIC
Halwala NSW

2006/2007
SA guard. Slowed down Jessie-May Hall on both ends (against didn’t get her name)
Erica Finney NSW - laser from the 3. 2007 born
Lara from SA looked good but was playing ACT so hard to tell.

Only caught 3 time slots so more out there but that who I noticed.


SCC

2009
Madi Ryan VIC
Isabel Smith QLD Nth
Matilda Trout NsW Metro

2010
Isabel Daly SA



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Cosmo Spacely  
Last year

Brondello wont change anything , one spot up for grabs only , they need to replace Jacksons spot from the WC team.

Based on from I would say that Smith would be the most likely right now .

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Madgen will still keep her spot you think?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Japan squad announced for Asia cup in Sydney


5'4 R.Machida 93*
5’5 N.Motohashi 93*
5’5 M.Yamamoto 99
5’6 S.Miyazaki 95*
5’6 S.Takada 96
5’7 M.Kawai 96
5’8 S.Hayashi 95
5’8 A.Hoshi 00
5’9 M.Hayashi 02
5’9 N.Todo 00
5’10 A.Hirashita 02
5’10 M.Yabu 04
5’10 K.Miyashita 98
5’11 Y.Nakano 96
5’11 S.Noguchi 01
6’0 S.Mawuli 98*
6’0 H.Akaho 98*
6’0 M.Okoye 99*
6’0 A.Asahina 03
6’1 M.Takada 89*
6’4 R.Tokashiki 91*


Assume 8 are locks

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

NZ

5'8 T.Dalton 01
5’9 C.Leger-Walker* 01
5’9 K.Leger-Walker* 97
5’9 T.Tupaea* 97
5’9 L.Hippolite 00
5’11 K.Heremaia* 99
5’11 C.Paalvast* 91
6’0 M.Goulding* 96
6’0 S.Beck* 95
6’0 T.Reed* 98
6’0 A.Taia* 94
6’1 A.Kelman-Poto 91
6’1 P.Mason 02
6’3 L.Tauleilei 05
6’3 J.Trousdell* 93
6’3 P.Davidson* 95
6’4 R.Tamilo 05
6’4 A.West* 99

*maybe



Starting to put a good squad together and with some talent in college or others out injured/pregnant.

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SP  
Last year

The younger Leger-Walker and Tupaea are the keys to the New Zealand team IMO. Quality shot creators for themselves and others at their best and very entertaining. Davidson is solid in the middle, but the rest of the team is a bit eh.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Purcell in the post is the biggest loss, the wings aren't that bad with Beck and Reed.
A few in college that will add to them team in a couple of years.


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Weedy Slug  
Last year

a month away, no announcement. No warmup games?


Who's left
Reid / Rocci / Mangakahia / Heal
Nicholson / Madgen / Swain / Borlase
Maley / Bibby / Atwell / Puoch
Blicavs / Garbin / Froling
Tolo / Scherf / Aokuso



Under chambers, assume?

Reid pg
1 of Mangakahia or Heal
Rocci pg
Swain sg/pg
Nicholson sg/sf
Maley sf/pf
Bibby sf/pf
Blicavs pf/sf
Froling pf/sf
Garbin pf/c
Scherf c
Tolo c

Atwell and 1 of the pg, i think will miss out.
Borlase and Puoch doubtful with u19 WC 3 weeks after.
Madgen, Aokuso I think still injured.
Also noticed Bunton was in camp, possibly Aokusos replacement.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Just checked Madgen looks to be available, I guess another player won't make it.

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Cosmo Spacely  
Last year

Will Jackson be back in the WNBL this season . Have not heard anything ??

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Another extended squad announced lol

Reid
Heal
Mangakahia
Rocci
Swain
Borlase
Madgen
Nicholson
Atwell
Puoch
Kunek
Maley
Bibby
Horvat
Froling
Garbin
Scherf
Tolo
Bunton


No Blicavs.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Seebohm now head coach, chambers relegated to assistant.
Renae Garlepp assistant, what...
Kristy Harrower assistant.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

If Seebohm makes the selections, we might actually see some youth.

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Interpreter  
Last year

Blicavs taking time off basketball, but I don't think she's officially retired.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Not cool, see quite a few come back last minute before WC or Olympics after taking a year or so off. No issue with a few months away, hopefully not entire season.

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Wnblfan  
Last year

Garlepp is an interesting coaching pick. Shame Hurst and Veal miss out.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Nice squad. It's got all the younger names I needed to see included.

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Footloose  
Last year

I hope Hurst was at least asked

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Timing could be an issue, u19 WC 2 weeks after.
Swain should be picked imo, Borlase and Puoch I think should focus on u19.


Small ball needed Imo

Reid / Mangakahia
Swain / Rocci
Nicholson / Madgen
Maley / Froling / Kunek
Tolo / Garbin / Scherf

Change to bigger lineup vs China with

Reid / Rocci / Mangakahia
Nicholson / Swain
Maley / Kunek / Madgen
Garbin / Froling
Tolo / Scherf

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

8 days to go till Womens asia cup.

No squad announcement.
No preparation games.
- all other teams have had 3-6 in the last month.
No SM posts.


BA = ....

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Pinch  
Last year

They have a prep game v NZ next Friday or the following Friday. Can't remember what the email said.

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Hooping  
Last year

Heal and Nicholson are apparently playing.

The lack of promotion is disappointing.

Even the boomers only have 3 warm up games listed and other countries are having a lot more.



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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Who's left...

Reid
Heal
Rocci
Swain
Madgen
Nicholson
Atwell
Kunek
Maley
Bibby
Horvat
Froling
Garbin
Scherf
Tolo
Bunton


I’d go with. But won’t be…
Reid-Heal
Rocci-Swain
Nicholson-Kunek-Bibby
Maley-Froling-Garbin
Tolo-Scherf

Reserve
Madgen - been out long time but is the current captain.
Atwell
Horvat
Bunton

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Cosmo Spacely  
Last year

Reid is out , torn calf in NBL1 last week

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Dam.
Why would the other guards be playing nbl1 this week. Just saw Rocci and swain play today in the north.

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SP  
Last year

I hope we're good enough to be top four, which is what we need to proceed to next round of Olympics qualifying. A home failure would be very embarrassing.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last year

Is there even going to be coverage of the friendly? (iirc Kayo shows all the Boomers' friendlies)

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Pinch  
Last year

The trail game against NZ is behind close doors at Comets Stadium.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

You would think...

Rocci
Heal
Swain
Nicholson
Madgen
Kunek
Bibby
Maley
Froling
Garbin
Scherf
Tolo

R
Atwell
Horvat
Bunton



Hope we can make top 4, can't imagine not going to the Olympic qualifiers.


Korea got best squad possible.
Japan a few injuries late on but still very good.
China looks to have a few missing, but they have depth.
Nz ok but the s5 will have to fire. The bench is young.
Taipei on the up, so too phillipines.
Lebanon likely no threat.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

https://australia.basketball/twelve-up-for-asia-cup/

Tolo and Reid Injured, Puoch and Borlase u19 WC but no swain? Big mistake imo.


Rocci
Heal
Madgen
Nicholson
Atwell
Kunek
Bibby
Horvat
Maley
Froling
Garbin
Scherf

Unbalanced side this one.

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Luuuc  
Last year

All things considered, I don't mind it

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last year

But late than never, was wondering where this was yesterday.

Plenty of different ways they could go, be interesting to see what they'll settle on. The depth is at 3/4 this time round

I think Game 1 starting line up will look something like: Heal/Magden/Maley/Garbin/Sherf

I'd prefer Nicholson over Magden, but at least Tess seems to be injury free. Kunek or Horvat could also fit at the 4 coming back from Europe.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Rocci 1
Heal 1
Madgen 2-3 - likely a 2-1 in asia
Nicholson 2-3 - likely just a 2 in asia
Atwell 3-2
Kunek 3-4
Bibby 4-3
Horvat 4-3
Maley 4-3
Froling 4-3 - likely a 4-5 in asia
Garbin 4-5 - likely just a 5 in asia
Scherf 5


Lineup?
Rocci-Heal
Nicholson-Madgen-Atwell
Kunek-Bibby
Maley-Froling-Horvat
Garbin-Scherf


Very forward heavy and slow against quick opponents.
Would have had swain(the future starting sg for opals)for atwell.

Mangakahia, Reid, Blicavs, Tolo all out for different reasons who should have made it.

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SP  
Last year

Swain is the big exclusion for me - would have thought the Opals needed her speed and scoring ability.

I think it's a roster good enough for top 4, which is the main objective.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

When I heard sandy chose the squad from a far, I knew all the vets and experienced players would get priority. She doesn't have faith in new youth, that is clear. we saw it with Phoenix, the opals and now NY.

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SamCro  
Last year

I'm all good with no Swain, needs to make a bigger commitment at the defensive end. At times she can be quite inconsistent with her effort levels & can demonstrate lackadaisical 'body language’ within games.

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SP  
Last year

Swain is a better defender than Heal or Madgen, even when she's half-arsing it. It shouldn’t be a barrier to her making the team.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

I'm happy if we make top 4, but this team is a Sandy special. Only those who attended training camp got selected.
Madgen has not played a game for ages yet still gets selected.

At Phoenix she chose smith, barely played over Magbegor, but for the opals she chose Magbegor and no smith. Look at smith now after leaving Phoenix, -Adelaide, -poland and now -chicago. She kept all the vets for several years and ditched all the youth. Won a championship early and kept rolling with the vets over n over for several years and left them like that which is why they have been crap and in a complete rebuild.

The Same with the opals, we’ve seen many older players come back, play past due and the youth left on the fringe every tournament.

With ny she cut richards, onyenwere, Kone and Mawuli, to hold prince and thornton who hardly play.

The non selection of wnba players also frustrating as China got release of wnba players and many players left for eurobasket.

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Shotblocker  
Last year

How and why Horvat is in there is a head scratcher , it's like make the Cof E and you get a green light regardless, Kunek brought in to replace Blicavs who wants a break from the BA show, not sure how she will fit in that line up though not exactly a great line up, but then it’s not going to be the best of the best they will play against Madgen still not game fit, and no Reid, but Heal in there , curiouser and curiouser as they say

Be interesting to see what he does with this group, think top 4 may be a stretch, but happy to eat my words and see them top 3

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Outside of the top 4 would be a disaster, missing the Olympic qualifiers...
Feel bad for Seebohm that has to go along with the other 3 coaches selections.
We got an ok squad that should get the bronze but Korea is at full strength(best squad they have ever put together) and nz can suprise on a good day.

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James Harvey fan  
Last year

Reid is missing because she's injured, right?

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Yes and Tolo

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last year

I think Swain and Bunton were only ones omitted "on merit", rest were out for one reason or another.

I don't mind the squad depth getting a chance. There's only 2-3 that were best 12 a year ago so it's good to see who can step up, it'll be needed. If they can't make top four then that's a concern they can try to answer before Paris.

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SP  
Last year

If they can't make top four then that's a concern they can try to answer before Paris.


There is no Paris Olympics if the Opals don't make top 4 in Asia Cup. It’s a qualifying event for the next round of Olympics qualification.

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Shotblocker  
Last year

Well of this is their only chance to qualify for Olympics you would think BA would have pushed to have their best squad not their also ran fill ins

Isn't Reid still playing in nbl1/

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

She was injured last game.

Also odd they didn't delve into the ncaa pool like last time. Amoore replacing injured Reid or retired Mangakahia would have been good.

Feel real bad for griffin too who is not even acknowledged these days eventhough Whitcomb unavailable. Was the mvp in her first tournament.

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Pinch  
Last year

Opals up by 50 against NZ with a quarter left in a wake up game in Sydney

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Cosmo Spacely  
Last year

"Opals up by 50 against NZ with a quarter left in a wake up game in Sydney"

Tahlia Tupaea has changed her mind and wants to be Australian again ....

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

If she wanted to play, she made the right call.

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