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Harry Froling hospitalised after attack

News reports say he suffered a fractured skull and brain bleeding after a one punch attack post game in Wollongong

Obviously is out for the season

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Luuuc  
Last year

:(

Hoping for the best for Harry, and that the scumbag responsible is caught & put away for a long time.

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Perthworld  
Last year

It backs up what Ben wrote in
this post
two weeks ago.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Hopefully it will finally serve as an eye opener for Harry. Get well soon.

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Zodiac  
Last year

Pretty ordinary to be blaming the victim.

Harry might have copped a bit on here for his conditioning and seemingly a lack of dedication to the sport but no one deserves or is asking for a life threatening attack like this.

All the best to Harry and the Froling family and hopefully he's able to make a full recovery.

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Dunkman  
Last year

Good luck Harry, all the best.

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Scout  
Last year

Hope Harry is ok.

To say it is a time for reflection for Harry is fairly ordinary. not a time to blame the victim.

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Cram  
Last year

Thats awful. And yeah no victim blaming please.

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Username  
Last year

I hope he recovers well. I'm very curious as to what role his mouth may have played on this.

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Hooper  
Last year

Perth world and anyone else making shameful assessments on the attack need to seriously take a good hard look at yourselves and your victim blaming mentality!
1. There if footage of this unprovoked coward punch!
2. Coward punches are just that, cowardly!
3. Blaming a victim is never ok!

Wake up fool!

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Kriss  
Last year

Rest up Harry- wishing you a speedy recovery

Hopefully the coward puncher gets his deserved

Far out Perthworld- what are you thinking with that comment...

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LoveBroker  
Last year

All the best to Harry in his recovery, it is truly disheartening to see all these one punch victims, many are never the same again.

I hope to see Harry back in the NBL.

Has the perp been caught? There needs to be very severe punishments for such acts.

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Sebastian  
Last year

I'm more interested in his refusal of treatment and discharging himself. Maybe hoping to hide the fact he was out after 2.30am from the Bullets

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Scout  
Last year

Sebastian - weird post.

Do you have any understanding of injury to the brain......


Some sad keyboard warriors on here

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Kas  
Last year

Wow that could have ended badly as he did refuse a CT and was then rushed to surgery after landing in Brisbane

Best wishes for your recovery Harry

They have arrested a 19yo coward

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Sebastian  
Last year

How? He was unconscious, bleeding from the ears! You get treatment! Only reason you want situation normal is if you're trying to hide it. Human nature. Especially if your not guaranteed anything next season.

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Ben  
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Due to previous incidents - that seem to have not made their way in to public realm - am not surprised this sad matter unfolded. I hope Harry fully recovers without detriment to his ongoing health.

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Scout  
Last year

FFS he has had a brain injury....

Bloke has reportedly been coward punched, has had bleeding on the brain and you are having a crack at his character and chances of a contract next year.

Not a priority for the Froling family might be for you but that says more about you.

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joshuapending  
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This might be a stupid question but how are you even able to fly? Surely that kind of injury would prevent you getting on a pressurised plane.

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Sebastian  
Last year

Says nothing about me. I would have sought treatment rather than fly home with my team. Actually, I wouldn't have been out a 2.40 am off my nut and removed from the club when the paramedics were called but hey that’s just me.

I hope he recovers fully, no one deserves that. But there are some flags! The only time I have ever agreed with Eddie McGuire. "Nothing good happens after 1am".

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

When something bad happens to someone, is it socially unacceptable to say anything other than 'the situation is bad and I have sympathy toward the victim'?

Genuinely want to get people's take.

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GordonG  
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jan/24/basketballer-harry-froling-injured-in-alleged-one-punch-late-night-attack

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Scout  
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Long may all have the right to have a crack - makes the weak feel strong

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Sebastian  
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Harry being Harry has no impact if I feel weak or strong. What a silly comment.

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Melbourne Boy  
Last year

Of course we hope he's OK, and if there's footage and this is a "king hit" on an innocent victim then fair enough it's terrible, I must say though it's hard to have faith if there's not footage.

Almost every time an athlete AFL, NRL, anyone of note is involved in an incident they're always reported as innocent. I watched a substanced up AFL player once back in the day attack a guy at a bar for talking to his girlfriend and the bloke dropped him, next day the papers were saying he was "king hit" from behind and everyone brought it, it was complete BS.

I'm not saying this happened with Harry's case because you never know, it's just a bit of "Boy who cried wolf" with these things that make your first thought a negative one, especially when it's also almost always a player with a reputation.

And please, my comments above are about incidents with athletes "generally speaking", I don't claim to know anything about Harry's case, I just hope he's OK.

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NBLTigers  
Last year

Wow some good keyboard warriors here. Just lay off the bloke guys. Can't people just enjoy life while young. I don’t blame him but just need to be careful at night.

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KET  
Last year

Manu - no, deviating from the script is wrong

I don't think it’s "victim blaming" to look at a set of circumstances and subsequent decisions and be curious about them. Speculating comes with risks, obviously.

I hope HF is ok, obviously it’s never acceptable for anyone to physically attack someone save for absolute necessity as self defence from a physical attack (not a verbal attack).

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koberulz  
Last year

When your workday starts at 4pm, 2.40am is not "late".

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orbit  
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Sebastion i think you're on to something, tried to hide it all by not getting treatment in the Gong & obviously pain was to extreme in brisbane.

He was out late at the casino after the Taipans game but seems more of a gentle giant than a trouble maker. He's played in the Gong as well so should know the safe people & havens.

The article says he was talking to some girls so maybe a jealous boyfriend got him.

I'm sure it will come out!

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NBLTigers  
Last year

That's my guess, they said he was with a group of women so just a silly guy doing a king hit behind. Young guys nowadays are so soft it’s not funny, just cowards.

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proud  
Last year

I find it somewhat ironic that Harry and Sam were in the Crossover after the game and footage was shown on the boys wrestling and Harry expressed that he never loses a wrestle and even had a draw with Pero Cameron and then this happens... Harry definitely seemed confident in his ability to handle himself when he could get his hands on someon, which explains in part the coward attack as Harry more than likely would have restrained the perp in a normal scenario.

Get well soon Harry

Reading this reminded me of Alex Pledger and all the well wishes he once received, I hope he is going very well with his health battle too.

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Mystro  
Last year

Alex is now Cancer free Proud.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/basketball-alex-pledger-reveals-cancer-free-diagnosis-after-successful-surgery/T6VUEJPOHXJIDRGJBLA45WFA4I/

There is no excuse to ever hit someone from behind or throw a "blindshot".
It is a dog act and who ever did this to HF deserves a long spell in jail to re-evaluate their decision making ability.
Hopefully he makes a full recovery.

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PeterJohn  
Last year

A lot of people seem to be posting without reading any of the reporting on the incident, with some misleading descriptions of the incident on here as a result. It's worth noting that the punch was reported as preceded by words between Froling and the other man and that the punch was not from behind, as per this from the report in the Daily Mail:

"He [Froling] was reportedly removed from a nightclub at around 2am after showing 'signs of intoxication', according to the Daily Telegraph.

The publication revealed that he was seen walking down the nightclub hotspot of Crown Street and talking with a number of females, before a man stands up to join them, before punching Froling in the face.

It caused the 210cm, 123kg star to reel backwards and hit his head, leaving him unconscious with blood pouring out of his ear, with shocked bystanders rendering first aid as the other party left."

Form your own views on something like this, but it's worth trying to find out what happened first.

Personally, I wish this incident hadn't happened and that Froling recovers fully.

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Anonymightymouse  
Last year

"When your workday starts at 4pm, 2.40am is not "late". "

NBL workdays generally start a lot earlier than 4pm. Not sure what his next commitment with the Bullets was, morning recovery session or just the flight home?

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Dunkman  
Last year

4pm, no idea.

Most clubs are in the gym at 8am followed by training. Quite often then off to club commitments.

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Perthworld  
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Froling was technically still at work between the end of the game and flight home next morning.

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twenty four  
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Perthworld is technically an idiot and shouldn't post in here anymore.

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Luuuc  
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So technically, Froling is the first NBL player to be unconscious at work since DJ Vasiljevic back in round 14

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Dunkman  
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PW is allowed his views like the rest of us.

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Frisbee14  
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Going by that logic, HF can claim workers compensation then for being injured on the job. And are all the players getting penalty rates for working 24 hours straight?

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Perthworld  
Last year

Well that's the question I'm interested in, regarding player conduct when on the road - are they considered to be still representing their employer between playing in a game and flight departure time?

I'm curious what the agreement is between clubs and players when it comes to this since the generic standard NBL player agreement lodged with the league doesn't specify anything so I imagine it is up to each individual club.

Surely there are some rules?

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KET  
Last year

"Going by that logic, HF can claim workers compensation then for being injured on the job."

That's a no. There is a distinction between being injured on the job and injured not on the job during “work hours”.

If you’re working a during the day kind of job and the employer isn’t overly fussed if you go to a bar during the work day (see corporate world, not uncommon), and you then get whacked by someone or injured, you wouldn’t be able to get workers comp.

“ are they considered to be still representing their employer between playing in a game and flight departure time?”

It’s standard for people to be representing their employer at all times, as such if you do something stupid like on social media it can get you terminated even if it’s not “during work hours”.

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Perthworld  
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And are all the players getting penalty rates for working 24 hours straight?

No, as NBL players are on salary rather than wages.

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Frisbee14  
Last year

Ffs, just pointing out how moronic your statements are and you take the bait to continue yourself regarding workplace relations.
Wait until the poor guy is better before crapping on about breaking team rules or whatever. Blaming a guy getting seriously injured, nearly dying, over pedantic shit is the height of victim blaming. Just STFU trying to pretend you are intelligent. Have a bit of respect.

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Perthworld  
Last year

We are discussing a current NBL event on an Australian basketball forum.

Since you are clearly feeling overly emotional about the subject matter I suggest you try and settle down or alternatively browse elsewhere.

You do not grasp a basic concept such as the difference between a wage and salary yet follow it up with a comment about grasping workplace relations. Classic.

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Perthworld  
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It's standard for people to be representing their employer at all times, as such if you do something stupid like on social media it can get you terminated even if it’s not "during work hours".

Thanks, I was thinking along those lines but didn't explain it as well as you just did.

It may be another reason for Froling to discharge himself from hospital other than to not miss the flight.

Does anyone know what clubs expect from players on road trips?

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Perthworld  
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Ffs, just pointing out how moronic your statements are and you take the bait to continue yourself regarding workplace relations.

Hold up, you're the one who doesn't understand the difference between a salary vs. wage yet are now going all 'workplace relations' on me? Classic.

Wait until the poor guy is better before crapping on about breaking team rules or whatever. Blaming a guy getting seriously injured, nearly dying, over pedantic shit is the height of victim blaming. Just STFU trying to pretend you are intelligent. Have a bit of respect.

We are discussing a current NBL event on an Australian basketball forum.

I'm genuinely curious on the mechanism in place between clubs and players in relation to time spent on the road. It's not about Harry specifically anymore but the league in general and how this sort of thing is handled.

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Dunkman  
Last year

Harry is just a loveable bear, with not lot brain power who has had the media on his side since day one, he just doesn't understand responsibility, f..k me Heal compared them to the Gasol brothers.
I don’t know what went down there the other night but one punch heroes who front up a day after it happens is not on.
Get well soon harry, no one deserves that.

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Astor 32  
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-25/teenager-bailed-over-alleged-one-punch-attack-harry-froling-nbl/101891296

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Sebastian  
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And there it is ^

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Dunkman  
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At the moment we've only got one side of the story, the courts will sort this out.

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Perthworld  
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Almost every time an athlete AFL, NRL, anyone of note is involved in an incident they're always reported as innocent. I watched a substanced up AFL player once back in the day attack a guy at a bar for talking to his girlfriend and the bloke dropped him, next day the papers were saying he was "king hit" from behind and everyone brought it, it was complete BS.

Yep.

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Dunkman  
Last year

I'll wait for courts to do their stuff before I make my mind up. Harry got king hit, he actually didn’t assault anyone.

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KET  
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Nobody said he did...

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Three to Make Two  
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I saw Sobey out and about in Wollongong after the game but saw so need to go out and king hit him.

The guy that hit Harry is claiming "provocation" as a defence due to Harry allegedly harassing some girls. But even if the punch wasn't from behind and even if Harry allegedly said "what are you going to do? Hit me?", it could still be a king hit if Harry had no warning it was going to actually happen.

And in other places I've read comments about how big Harry is as if that's a mitigating factor in the assault. It doesn't matter how big you are if you aren't expecting a punch to the head. And you'd have to imagine the guy gave it everything he had. And Harry's size would also mean he'd hit the ground harder.

And comments about how ridiculous it is that Harry discharged himself and flew home: of course he'd want to minimise the fall out so catching the team plane home would help that. He'd be banking on no news is good news and what team management don't know, won't hurt them (or Harry).

Maybe he had a sore head but if he left before the diagnosis, he might not have suspected a fracture. Personally, I don't think he should've flown and maybe he got lucky that nothing more serious happened. But Harry just wanting to get home ASAP is perfectly logical. And, in all circumstances, Harry probably wasn't thinking too clearly so don't hold that against him.

People have commented on worker's comp: a few years ago, a Commonwealth public servant won a W/C case after a light hit her in the face while she was having sex in a motel room whilst she was away for work. She eventually lost in the High Court but she won in the Federal Court. So, a good lawyer could well argue a case.

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Dunkman  
Last year

Yes all we have heard from is the attackers side, let's see if it anywhere near the same as harry. The witnesses and the attacker left the scene and had time to get their stories out, will they all say the same when on the witness stand.

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Cram  
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Guys who pinch first love to rely on "I was provoked" when they're caught.

I've been provoked by drunk idiots many times in my life. Never felt the need to hit them.

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