Groote
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NBL1 West 23/24 Offseason: News & Rumours

One post for all Offseason News and Views. I'll start with the most pressing news which will be 2024 Head Coaches by club.

Women

Cockburn - First ever GF appearance. TT safe to return next year

Eastern Suns - Rendulic did ok with what he had. Much like East Perth they need stability and continuity in their program to really develop a club identity at nbl1 level

East Perth - Limited budget and preparation, but you can't see Craig Allen leaving the Eagles. And that program really does need some stability and continuity

Geraldton - Word is the powers that be over east have advised the Midwest club they MUST field a women's team like every other club after next season. Knowing how badly their first attempt finished up having to pay for two years of license fees without fielding a team, one suspects there's a fair bit to play out in this one!

Goldfields - Thompson has been in charge since they joined the League and was decimated with injuries this season. He's not going to win them a championship any time soon but not too sure there are many other suitable options for the Giants at this stage

Joondalup - Big budget, not alot of junior development and expectations far too high. It has gone all wrong for Wong and it's hard to see how the Wolfpack Hierarchy don't look elsewhere in 2024

Lakeside - Could they be onto their third coach in four years in 2024? Only time will tell

Mandurah - Another season of almost but never was for the Magic. Vlad was great but Reynolds clearly wants to be in charge and that arrangement can't be good for team chemistry. 2024 could be Milo's swansong - She will need someone with championship winning experience in charge to finally get the one thing that has eluded an amazing career, a championship ring

Perry Lakes - Ageing squad heavily reliant on Clark and Isenbarger. Mansfield has become predictable with his game plan and needs a windows update over the offseason if he is to challenge the big budget clubs

Perth - Two coaches on the season, neither of which will be at the helm in 2024. Drastic cultural change is needed at the Redbacks in their women's program or Jakens will not be the only local to leave there and abandon the sinking ship

Rockingham - Arguably the biggest budget in the League and Knowles still could not get it done despite having Bevo as an assistant. Has horrendously underachieved since being in charge at the Flames and with a president who thrives for success, there's more chance of Elvis being found alive than there is of Knowles being in charge of the Flames next year. Big coaching cleanout on the way I predict

South West - Ciabbatoni had nothing to work with apart from her assistant coaches daughter and some talented but ultimate undersized young locals. It's the one coaching gig in NBL1 West nobody wants but if Ciabba doesn't want it, its somewhat scary to think what may happen with the program down there

Warwick - Jonelle isn't going anywhere. Teams have figured the Senators out this season after a dream run in 2022 but expect Warwick to reload with two new stud imports as well as a Lynx player or two to support the emergence of young Foster and your foundation for another tilt at a championship is there waiting for you. Plus which club would be stupid enough to get rid of the person second in charge at BWA!?

Willetton - The only person safer than Jonelle Morley at Warwick, is Simon Parker at Willetton. Sustained success has been Parker's trump card since taking over in the role and if he wins another championship this weekend, will go down as one of the best women's coaches of all time and justifiably so too. Will Sharp return now she isn't playing for the Lynx - that's Parker's biggest issue in the offseason

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Perthworld  
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Men?

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Groote  
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Men

Cockburn - Didn't make Finals but given the year Cooper had personally as well as dealing with two imports who for 75% of the season cared about their own numbers rather than what was best for the team, you look at it with a glass half full perspective if they get two restricted players in 2024 who buy into what Coops is trying to do at The Den

East Perth - Had some upsets during the season but ultimately their off court drama and politics plagued their season (And will do for some time until people are removed from the club) Probably looking at their third coach in three years if they want to keep their stronger players, otherwise the fallout may just bring the foundation club to its knees

Eastern Suns - Trahair had a stud import, got the most out of his local contingent and arguably would have finished higher has it not been for a late season injury to Huntington. If they can retain both imports, and add a key local then expect the Suns to play finals in 2024

Geraldton - Reigning coach of the year for good reason ain't going nowhere

Goldfields - Manton's rookie season didn't inspire alot of confidence and never truly challenged for a finals spot. The issue with the Giants is just how many of their out of town contingent will re-sign with them. May be safe for one more year but if they miss finals again, expect a change this time next year

Joondalup - Have had a golden run in this year's West Finals with a chance to win a Championship from sixth being a huge effort for Coach Morrell, which inevitably makes him a safe bet to return next season

Lakeside - Same as the women's program at the Lightning, just struggling to find an identity and year to year consistency. Armour with not many seasons left is a huge aspect too. Could be onto yet another new coach with lots of backroom politics affecting the nbl1 program

Mandurah - Relying on an former league MVP well into his final years says all you need to know about how Coach Utley approached this season. No budget, no juniors and not alot coming through their wabl program either. Utley safe purely because given the off court instability over the past five to ten years which seems to plague the club, nobody wants a gig with so many distractions and very little hope of finals play

Perry Lakes - New coach guaranteed as Parsons steps down during the week to spend more time with his wife and their young ones. Ageing lineup and no studs coming through their successful wabl program mean they could be relying on that western suburbs chequebook for a few seasons to come

Perth - Essentially played their grand final against Perry Lakes as they were never competitive against the Buccs last Saturday night. Nix can put a positive spin on it as much as he likes but aside from a couple of upset wins, they spent a fair bit of money for nothing in return. Will be back at the helm in 2024 but you feel only a grand final appearance at a minimum will keep him safe at Perth after next year

Rockingham - Similar to Perth, spent alot of money this season for nothing in return. Were plagued by injuries to key players throughout the season but when it mattered most, they simply struggled to put the ball in the basket. Petrik one of the better coaches going around but much like at WNBL level, maybe opposition coaches are figuring him out now and he needs to refresh his style of play

South West - Coach Goff is more likened to an AFL coaching style than on the side of an NBL1 court, but credit to him in he gets the buy in from the locals down there. Deserves another go around in 2024 and how good would it be if they could entice Worthington back to finish his career where it all began in that beloved #22

Warwick - Much like their ageing list with Ellis and Davis both coming towards the end of their playing careers, one must ask how long Brennan remains in charge with his NBL and other coaching commitments meaning like in 2022, he spent games with Ettridge in charge during the season. Need a championship winning run in 2024 otherwise a much needed cleanout could be on the cards at the end of next season

Willetton - Nener has been just what that program has needed at the Tigers, a former club junior who has bought back fellow elite junior Tatulli with the seasoned experience of Craig Friday helping guide the young squad. Building a very special tram and with the right additions with imports and nbl players, you feel another men's championship isn't far away for the Tigers

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koberulz  
Last year

Warwick haven't announced Brennan is departing, but they've advertised the job. Given his NBL commitments it seems unlikely he'll return.

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koberulz  
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Warwick have now announced Brennan's departure.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Lakeside Men- MM is contracted for 2 more years, so don't think any major changes there- just need 1 more decent import- local talent is looking better. Will be hard to keep Hayden Brown thou- a few other clubs already chasing him and he is unsure, as he may go into being a fulltime minister.

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Andrew  
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Jonathan Wade has signed a 2 year extension for the Wolves after missing the entire season with a shoulder injury / surgery.

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Perthworld  
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Andrew thoughts on season so far?

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Is Wade a local or import still? Is Dove gone that means?

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Pasadena 72  
Last year

Local. Muo was his replacement.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Lakeside officially looking or a new HC for the women's team.

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Bored  
Last year

Knarkle is on some sort of run right now.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Heard Coops is out at Cougarland- Taken fulltime job at another club and TT won't let him coach anymore- shame, another season with the young group, could have really bought them along

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whatevr  
Last year

What do you mean? He wants to work at a different club to the one he coaches at? I don't get it?

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

Warwick Senators??

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

@Pat, interesting if true. All the talk at our table at the BWA Awards night was that a group of Andy Stewart, Mark Clayden and Carlin Highes have been moving behind the scenes to take over the men anyway. This may be an extension of that, some truth perhaps, and TT looking after his mates by finding a reason to move AC along? Shame if true, poor by the Cougars if true.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

that is cap in regards to the cougar HC overthrow!- they have all been there with him through his ups and downs- especially mark and carlin, both have their own businesses to focus on! will be a shame to see him go if he can't do both jobs. stay tuned!

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whatevr  
Last year

Wait, can that happen? Seems bizarre?

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koberulz  
Last year

I don't know why you would take a full time job at one club and expect to be able to coach NBL1 at another.

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koberulz  
Last year

Cody Ellis has announced his retirement.

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Well Pat Bev, best pop that Cap on and don the red eshay sneakers, just saw a social media post from Cockburn that says AC has been told he's out. Will be fascinating to see if any of the three mentioned step in and take over? Seems the coup has occurred? Disgraceful by TT and the powers that be at Cockburn, no matter what spin is put on it.

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Iso24  
Last year

Pat Bev your info, insider info or crystal ball was spot on. Unsure on the full time job bit as AC is a career cop but whatever the issues were/are, they are certainly on TT and his motly crew - disgusting no matter what comes out afterwards. #notfamilyclub #fortheboys

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koberulz  
Last year

If Pat Bev's original claim is true and he's taken a job at another club, how is it Cockburn's fault?

Tom Knowles is out at Rocko, also.

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Groote  
Last year

He wanted to work the Mandurah development job whilst still coaching for Cockburn. TT said no then some home truths came out, 24 hours later AC is fired. I too agree with the #NotMyFamily quote here as this was not how our club was built on, not is it the type of behaviour we want associated with our club no matter what success he has had on court recently, and TT needs to explain to us as members the justification for this move. The fact that we are now being told the new coach will be named within the next week shows this was planned out long before AC approached them with the Mandurah idea and they just needed an angle to put it on him. AS has been lurking and after that coaching position since he came to the club and expect him to be duly named new Head Coach in the coming days.

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whatevr  
Last year

Not sure about the rest of it but you cant work at Mandurah in a development capacity and coach Cockburn can you? Surely NEITHER club would allow this?

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West Whisper  
Last year

Would you expect anything less from TT?

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Pat Bev  
Last year

yeah Coops, wanted out from being a fulltime cop, esp his circumstances changed this year- wants to be involved with ball fulltime. Good luck to him- godforbid- AC takes over- bad for team chemistry and culture! But since when has TT cared about that!

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Salty  
Last year

Somewhat unorthodox arrangement, if true. But probably says a lot about the calibre of AC, wanting to see out a commitment to his team. If Magic have agreed to this it also says a lot about the value they place in AC who has much to offer and they clearly respect his ethics. Coops should go where they see his worth and build the type of 'family' he would want to part of.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Yeah Goodluck to Coops- bad look for "Cougar Family"!!!

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Groote  
Last year

This has a lot to play out and it's going to be a massive case of damage control with TT. Coops has exposed to the board and in particular the President and Vice President multiple issues of concern directly related to the actions of TT as CEO which they knew nothing about.

The simple fact that we as members are now hearing of this too raises major concerns with just how much has been hidden and covered up. The shine of the girls winning their inaugural championship has well and truly gone and TT had nobody else to blame but himself. Hopefully now the board investigate all claims coming to light, then hold those responsible accountable for their actions and the subsequent fallout.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

French and Dimock seem hesitant to challenge the status quo with TT. Particularly Dimock, who holds personal interests as his Golden Children son is poised to become the next significant player from the Cougars. This situation often goes unnoticed, highlighting a clear conflict of interest that arises from his dual roles as CEO and HC. It's high time they recognized the need for change.

The overlapping concerns extend to the WABL situation as well. Rumours suggest a growing exodus of players due to dissatisfaction with AS's treatment. Even a beloved Cougar family is rumoured to be departing, taking their daughters to another team for the upcoming season down south street!

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wildcat  
Last year

So much embarrassing tripe on here

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Perthworld  
Last year

It's super cringe adding the word family after a team name.

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Groote  
Last year

Wildcat - You reference tripe on here so you must be a TT beneficiary who usually fits in the category of being at the club less than ten years and only sticks up for him because he or AS haven't screwed you or your child over yet to advance their own agenda.

A few of us on the other hand has parents grow up at the club. We've been there all of our own lives and seeing this absolute shambles of what has been allowed to happen play out over the last 48 hours, highlights just why the so called family tag rubs alot of us the wrong way. The only tripe is you lot who keep pushing the TT agenda wanting everyone to believe the majority of members are currently happy with everything happening within the club, when recent events prove the complete opposite. Totally agree the VP has a conflict of interest but hopefully Frenchy can sort this out at all levels, remove those who aren't here for the long term benefit of OUR club and we come out better for it in the long run.

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koberulz  
Last year

recent events prove
Which recent events, where? The only thing that's actually been specifically cited by anyone in this thread is Cockburn refusing to allow the full-time employee of another club coach their NBL1 team, which is eminently reasonable.

Every single time something like this comes up, it just becomes personal shit-flinging by people with stakes in one camp or the other. It's a waste of everyone's time.

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wildcat  
Last year

What are all the cover ups that are going on?

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Has AC actually taken a role at Mandurah? A quick search of their website and social media can't find a mention of it anywhere, and I would have thought a coach of his calibre would warrant an announcement? Maybe that's the tripe wildcat is referring to, that isn't real? In which case, the decision by TT becomes even more baffling?

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whatevr  
Last year

Just spoke to a guy I used to play with whos at Cockburn. Told me about a "players revolt" towards the end of the season. Anyone know anything about that?

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wildcat  
Last year

Nah the tripe is all the unfounded accusations Groote is making

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Ahh, ok, thanks wildcat, so AC has taken a role at Mandurah then? If not, and that's untrue, then why has Cockburn sacked one of the best coaches in WA? @whatevr - given the talks of an exodus of key players after the decision by TT to sack AC, what revolt would have occurred? Would they not be celebrating the decision the club?

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wildcat  
Last year

Not going to Mandurah

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION

Maybe there's more to basketball than being a good coach

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whatevr  
Last year

"Would they not be celebrating the decision the club?"

I was told alot of them are.



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Pat Bev  
Last year

Be keen to see how Claydo does as the new HC and who he keeps around and cleans out.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Heard Coops will have a new HC gig soon! Hearing Eagles or Hawks!

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whatevr  
Last year

Tough choice.

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Anon  
Last year

Old mate TT set unveil a big signing on Monday for the women. Poaching another player
Seems the rules of not negotiating contracts or contacting contracted players whilst still contracted dont apply. Contract was negotiated and signed during the playoffs

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koberulz  
Last year

The NBL can't manage to enforce tampering rules, I don't know what chance you think NBL1 has.

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whatevr  
Last year

What do you mean by poaching? Made someone sign something?

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GoodSoup  
Last year

those rules are not a thing Anon and havent been in nbl1 times

all clubs can sign their own players until monday and other clubs can talk to whoever they want before that point

but only current clubs can sign them until monday then anyone can

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Anon  
Last year

Good soup
I understand
The contract has been signed for another club for next season season and was signed weeks ago.
Just being dated with Mondays date

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Pat Bev  
Last year

who is it? any clues??

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GoodSoup  
Last year

judging by anons previous posts probably kalgoorlie. Not much left there to pick from

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Garbin?

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GoodSoup  
Last year

Olympic year so doubt it. McCarty makes more sense

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

@Anon - TT works in a world he's created, no rules, real or otherwise apply. I note that the undermining is complete with TT announcing he and Andy's puppet has been offered a 3 year contract. Clayden living up to his reputation and proving he's been undermining Andrew Cooper for the past 4 years. Even the announcement was full of the clear nepotism and cronyism that TT has valued and promoted in his tenure as Cockburn's self proclaimed saviour. **yawn** Wildcat, good soup, pat bev, whatvr and co, knees deep in this (one and the same, or part of the same group of misfits),the greater basketball community are not as gullible as you take them for, but it was known early what you were planning, it played out exactly as predicted despite the charade. Now we, the broader basketball community, grab the popcorn and wait and see what happens from here.

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wildcat  
Last year

Dire why you so obsessed with me

I'm just trying to prod you and you bite bite bite

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Observer  
Last year

@wildcat, who is obsessed with who? Dire referenced a few commenters here, yet you think their obsessed with you specifically? Who is the biter here? I dare say TT.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Can someone explain to me this bizarre obsession with Cockburn of all places?

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TheTruth  
Last year

Unfortunately Cockburn is a hot topic due to the poor treatment of AC- especially after the life tragedy he faced this year. TT has got alot to answer for especially with the cancer that grows evermore present who is AS.AS is the mastermind who is slowly but surely ruining the "Cougar Family" which I understand more than anyone because I'm part of it and it pains me to say but our club values are just a statement not something that is actually lived out- this past week is a prime example of what AS has been doing lurking his dark shadow in the background. Unless AS is stopped then we will lose our club for good. The rumours of family's leaving this fine club are unfortunately true - from what I know there has been abusive coaching behaviour in the U12s girls T1 ranks.

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Pasadena 72  
Last year

Who is AS?

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Andy Stewart

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Iso24  
Last year

McCarty will be announced at some stage as new signing for Cougars. Kalgoorlie womens cant take a trick and in general alot of ground to cover to get off the bottom end.

NBL1 West need to get rid of the no poaching policy (and the salary cap for that matter) to better align up with other conferences.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

I completely agree with your sentiments. My son and daughters have been part of the Cougars WABL program for years, and I've witnessed an alarming level of verbal abuse from certain "coaches," particularly in the U12 category where some fathers have exhibited inappropriate behaviour. It's evident that AS has influenced and shaped their conduct. Yelling, kicking
and berating young children is unacceptable. I'm aware of seven to eight families who left last season, and it seems like many more will follow suit this season. This pattern must come to an end!

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Groote  
Last year

You can always count on good old Rockingham for the Hold My Beer award when crazy stuff happens at another association.

1. Women's Head Coach removed with a year left on his contract
2. Highly regarded High Performance Manager on his way out after only one year in the position
3. Yesterday's very interesting social media post from one of their now former senior WABL coaches who wasn't afraid to drop some eye opening grenades on his way out either

And what seems to be the common denominator here? The President and the Flames Board. People can attack TT all they want, but it's clear based on the comments from said social media post that whatever is happening down at Mike Barnett is just as bad if not worse than what people think is happening at Wally Hagan with many sharing the same view which resonated in the original post.

Best of luck TY wherever you do end up mate but I'm sure many of us will know wherever that is, ultimately it will be Rockingham's loss.

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koberulz  
Last year

Tim Rendulic stepping down at Kalamunda.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

MM signed on for another 2 years at Lakeside- hopefully will give the program some stability - as I know JD and Rowan will be in high demand!

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whatevr  
Last year

A new low from Frisbee, Truth and PatBev. A bigger load of shit I have never read.

You think people stand around and watch adults kick and berate children and do nothing?

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TruthSlayer  
Last year

Lets gets some things straight.

TT has done a brilliant job for the Cougars club and peeps in here are talking smack because of his success on and off the court.

His leadership is first class and I wouldn't be surprised if a WNBL club picks him up in the next few years (Surely the Lynx come knocking).

Imo the peeps in here are all about cutting down the tallest poppy in the BWA region.

AS is a basketball genius and has given the Cougars direction like no one before him. The rubbish about his coaching is not true, yes he's an old school coach but his methods have benefited the current under 12s champs girls who look to go undefeated for the first time in the clubs history.

The AC situation is a difficult one and unless you have the whole story it's not something anyone should comment about.

Mark Clayton is a stand up guy and the comments of him undermining AC are just plain lies!!

Hope this clears up some of the comments in here.

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koberulz  
Last year

If you were trying to sound at all impartial, you failed.

Jonelle Morley leaving Senators.

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Didn't know TT has a burner account now?!

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koberulz  
Last year

Tim Rendulic stepping down at Kalamunda.
Signed with Redbacks.

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

Guessing there's been some early movement player wise by this point. Anyone got anything mens or womens?

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

Cooper a sure thing at Mandurah?

What about East Perth? Do they bring back Filpo for another year along with all the Americans?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last year

Filpo signed for 5 years at EP so defs staying

Cooper or Chance to Perry Lakes

Robbins to rocko

Cougars doing nothing eventful which will annoy some people

Will Alava stay?

Goldfields women in all sorts

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Pat Bev  
Last year

Cougars offered contracts to Rowan Mckenzie and Josh Davey- both are still waiting for contract extensions from Lakeside! (they take their time with everything!!!!)

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Groote  
Last year

Cooper is locked in at Warwick, announcement in the next week or so

Robbins not leaving his High Performance position at Willetton for a less than stable position at Rockingham given their expected player exodus

AS now overseeing the entire nbl1 men's and women's programs at Cockburn - It would be kind of ironic if he stabbed Clayden in the back at some point much like Clayden did to Cooper

Chance staying in Victoria post nbl season, zero interest in coaching back here given his Boomers commitments heading into Paris next year. Keegan Crawford has interviewed for the Hawks position

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Robbins has already left Willetton so that's not accurate.

AS overseeing all at Cockburn isn't a surprise, and despite protestations against my comments about Clayden and his reputation, it's out there and openly discussed by many. As I stated long ago, the rumour was around long before the events happened that AS, TT and Clayden were moving to knife AC, and what do you know, here we are, it all came true. Funny that, but sure, it was all above board.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last year

How do you know he was knifed Frisbee?

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Pretty sure if read what's written you'd see.l Bohemian. Strong rumours early on there were moves to knife AC, then it happens and those rumoured to be the ones to do so announce the move (TT) replace the man (Clayden) and then the third wheel mentioned earlier here in this forum as now overseeing it all (AS). Or is it all an amazing series of events that is all pure coincidence? All I can do from outside guess though, so I suppose you could be right? Not sure the bookies would take that bet though.

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whatevr  
Last year

Crazy thought.

Just because something is written here doesnt make it true. What makes you think AS overseas anything at Cockburn??

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Lol 2 whatevr, living up to your name, whatevs. You are spot on though, just because it's here doesn't make it true. I stand by the rumors mid year, the fact they've eventuated as they've been announced. Groote raised the AS link, he's usually pretty good, but hey, I guess time will tell there too. My response was only to that, and to that point, only pointed out I wouldn't be surprised given all the other pieces have checked out. You know what whatevr - sometimes where there is smoke, there truly is fire. But hey, just a crazy thought.

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Sandgroper  
Last year

Cooper to Warwick makes sense. Wildcats connection and great at developing young talent. Maybe they will back him in to recruit there.

Plenty of names swirling for Hawks gig. Interesting to see where they go.

Rendulic left suns high and dry. Now they are scrambling for a coach.

Lakeside still yet to confirm women's head coach.

Any thoughts on Tom Knowles or Jason Smith return up the hill?

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Camel 94  
Last year

Jason Smiths last venture up the hill was with Tom Knowles as his assistant in 2016 after Knowles didnt get the job at Lakeside in favour of Mansfield and ended after one year with Knowles taking over until he got dumped in favour of Mansfield a few years later. That certain hirer and firer has left the Suns now so maybe it might work out better for either of them

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wildcat  
Last year

Where is it anywhere that AS is overseeing the programs? Groote is good but not this time. Apparently I'm TT so I should know the answers here anyway right

LOL AS not overseeing anything. He coaches the athletes that’s all. I’ll say it again, this place has so much embarrassing tripe.

Made up things appearing everywhrre

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Bored  
Last year

The word knifed keeps getting used here. Perhaps it was just time for a new coach. They did finish out of the playoffs after all.

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Sandgroper  
Last year

Andrew Cooper confirmed coach at Warwick.
Who's the next cab off the rank?

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Groote  
Last year

The term keeps getting used because it's precisely what happened. Only a select few of us Cockburn people know that AC and MC grew up as Rockingham juniors together. Over thirty years of mateship gone out the door with one swift, selfish act no doubt encouraged by others with something to gain from it no doubt - AS comes to mind immediately.

For the record Wildcat, TT himself told a group of us long term members during the week at the stadium, that AS will be working closely with players in both the nbl1 squads in a senior role overseeing the whole program with that role then reporting to the CEO and Board. Can we stop with the constant smoke and mirrors approach and just accept members and even those outside our club can see what is happening and why don't we just own it rather than denying it on here so much.

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Andrew Cooper announced as new HC at Warwick. Good pick up for them with Brennan moving to Vic. Can't wait for the first Senators v Cougars game next year, will be very interesting.

That leaves Suns, Warwick and Flames women still looking, and Hawks men. Wildcat, whatever, Groote, Pat Bev, Truthteller, Bohemian, as sandgroper has asked, who's up next?

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wildcat  
Last year

I heard a rumour the Warwick job was offered to Coops in season before he left cockburn. I reckon they were out to knife TT and take a coach from under him all along. I know that it's true because TT told us members during the week.

See how easy rumours are

AS does not report to the board. Embarrassing Groote thinks that. It’s on Cockburn’s website that he’s a talent development coordinator and reports to BD. Everyone knows he works with players he has for 4 years. Groote someone is feeding you baaaaaaad info

Interesting no one talking about Morley being knifed. I’ll leave that one here.

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Groote  
Last year

Cooper confirmed Warwick men
Brad Robbins soon to be named new Warwick women's coach
Damian Barr solid favourite to be new Perry Lakes men's coach
Michelle Fletcher Suns women's candidate? Rumours Slammers need two new Head Coaches and Vlad may not be returning to the Magic women's position. Crazy period is upon us

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Leaky Valve  
Last year

Why would Brad Robbins leave a full-time, high performance role at Willetton to take up a part-time, head coaching role at Warwick???

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Pat Bev  
Last year

(Mod: Potentially defamatory.)

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EngineRoom  
Last year

Got word that Willetton women are in meltdown mode post gf. A couple of starters looking elsewhere already. Anyone chasing a 2x league MVP?

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Isaac  
Last year

Just FYI, I have had legal requests regarding the identity of posters and have forwarded information that can be used to identify you. This is a reminder that you are responsible for what you post.

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Wild Willy  
Last year

It seems the shit slinging and slander has dropped off a touch since Isaac posted. Having a good lawyer could be handy for some on here.

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Phoenix  
Last year

But seriously - what happened to the Warwick women? Would've thought Coach Morley was a certainty for season 2024 but it seems not. Anyone got the inside info on that one??

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Andrew  
Last year

MARCUS WONG DEPARTS JOONDALUP WOLVES NBL1 PROGRAM

Following two seasons at the helm of the Joondalup Wolves NBL1 Women's Program, an extension of Marcus' contract has not been able to be mutually agreed.

The Joondalup Wolves are thankful of Marcus's contribution to the program and acknowledge the hard work and professionalism he gave to the team. Marcus came to the Wolves from Adelaide where he had spent seven years as an Assistant Coach with the Lightning in the WNBL and over 10 years as the Head Coach of the Sturt Sabres in what is now the NBL1.

During the past two seasons Marcus has been able to continue his role as a WNBL Assistant Coach with the support of the WBA. Through a number of discussions, it was apparent that the inability for Marcus to commit to another NBL1 preseason would be challenging and as a result an extension of his NBL1 contract could not be finalised.

Although we wish Marcus could fulfil the role, we understand his desire to coach in the WNBL and wish him well in the upcoming season with the Townsville Fire.

WBA CEO Andrew Summerville said;

"Marcus has done a great job for us over the last 2 seasons leading our team to two finals appearances. It was a difficult decision but ultimately the timing issues were too much of a challenge. We thank Marcus for his efforts and commitment to the program and wish him well in his future endeavours"

Marcus Wong added:

“I would like to thank the entire Wolfpack family for their support of the women’s team over the last 2 years. It has been an amazing experience where I have met great people and made new friends. Thanks to the players who have made my time at the club memorable and of course thanks to the coaches and managers - we have had an amazing group of people to work with and I will be forever thankful for the work everyone put in over the last 2 years. I am looking forward to what the next chapter is and wish everyone at the Wolfpack all the best for the seasons ahead.”

The WBA will commence the search for a new Head Coach immediately.

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Boomer  
Last year

Interesting time for coaching changes within both the women's and the men's competitions.

player movements will always happen but you would expect a little more than normal with this much coaching change.

I find the women's coaching situation interesting with 3 of the powerhouse teams all in the market for new coaches. Warwick, Joondalup and Flames.

Without knowing any of the inner workings down at Rocko, it would at least be interesting to consider how things might look if Petrik returned to the womens and Bevo took the men.

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Boomer - isn't Bevo moving on from Flames? Thought that was something I'd heard around the basketball circles, and somewhere here in this forum. Yes wildcat, that doesn't make it true, but even so, don't see him coaching at Flames. Hawks maybe, though strong talk in our club is that's likely to go to a known, experienced head coach, certainly not a rookie. Keegan Crawford, Jamie O'Loughlin, Bevo are the names we keep hearing.
Morley to Wolves maybe? Proven as a championship winner, access to a decent budget, wouldn't be a huge leap to see that happen.

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wildcat  
Last year

Bevo leaving sooner rather than later. Morley won't be at wolves.

Not many options out there to coach women’s but lots of jobs. If Mansfield Parker Alava and thwaites get it right it’ll be hard to get get in front of them. Most clubs behind 8 ball with coaches late coming in

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Pasadena 72  
Last year

Wolves women the most attractive job open in the country now?

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Sandgroper  
Last year

Dire Frisbee sounds like someone from the hawks inner sanctum

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Sadly sandgroper my blood isn't blue enough and bank balance not big enough for that. Pasadena, would the Flames role also be as attractive? Known to not be shy throwing $ at their programs, great home crowds and so on. Would be as attractive as Wolves surely?

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

What happened to Ciabattoni at the Slammers? No longer coach

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koberulz  
Last year

During the past two seasons Marcus has been able to continue his role as a WNBL Assistant Coach with the support of the WBA. Through a number of discussions, it was apparent that the inability for Marcus to commit to another NBL1 preseason would be challenging and as a result an extension of his NBL1 contract could not be finalised.

Although we wish Marcus could fulfil the role, we understand his desire to coach in the WNBL and wish him well in the upcoming season with the Townsville Fire.
Strange, then, to see him pop up in the Flames job...

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wildcat  
Last year

I think that means hes not here for pre season Kobe. Joondalup were not okay with it but flames were. Not sure too many teams would be okay with head coach disappearing for pre season

Doesn't mean it’s false

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koberulz  
Last year

Didn't say it was false, just said it was strange.

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Sandgroper  
Last year

Robbins confirmed at Warwick today.
Not a bad couple of gets for the club to replace good outgoing coaches.

Marcus Wong to Rocko was easy. Obviously Joondalup will go out of state for a coach.

Any other news?

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Groote  
Last year

Heard at Bendat on Sunday that Luke Sunderland will be Bevo's replacement down in Rockingham. Not sure when Bevo finishes given I saw him on court 7 in a flames polo supporting one of their grand final teams? Willetton have just advertised for Robbins replacement. I'd expect that to be an interstate acquisition also. K Crawford now the short priced favourite to be the new Hawks Men's coach.

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Andrew  
Last year

From NBL1 West Transition Tracker:

Cockburn Cougars


Women: Tyrone Thwaites (Head Coach), Jaya Scafidi, Amelia Corasaniti, Jessie Edwards, Abbey Hall, Jewel Williams.


Men: (Head Coach) Mark Clayden, Brayden Atwell, Josh Hunt, Jordan lee, Alexander Mackinlay, Gavin Field.





Eastern Suns


Men: Carl Aylett, Rob Huntington, Cooper Lowe





Lakeside Lightning


Women: Ruby Benn


Men: (Head Coach) Mike Malat (two-year deal), Dominic Jackson





Perth Redbacks


Women: (Head Coach) Tim Rendulig


Men: (Head Coach) Charles Nix





Willetton Tigers


Women: (Head Coach) Simon Parker, Grace Foster


Men: (Head Coach) Adam Nener





Warwick Senators


Women: (Head Coach) Brad Robbins





Rockingham Flames


Women: (Head Coach) Marcus Wong

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koberulz  
Last year

The transaction tracker was complete garbage last year. Had players signed with the wrong team, even in the wrong conference, listed players that didn't exist, didn't list players that had signed...

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Boomer  
Last year

Caleb Davis has not re-signed with the Senators. Will be interesting to see where he pops up next.
New era for the Warwick guys who have been led by Davis and Ellis for many seasons. Will Elliott return?

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Sandgroper  
Last year

Very quiet in this group at the moment.

Player movement starting to happen. Who stays and goes at each club?

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Groote  
Last year

Davis to Joondalup to play alongside former college teammate Turnidge. Gattorna highly unlikely to return to the Buccs, multiple nbl1 east clubs interested once he's done at the Kings. Giants only going with one restricted player for both teams with heavily reduced budgets due to stadium redevelopment meaning reduced capacity and less sponsors boxes. They might be the new Slammers if they're not careful

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Andrew  
Last year

Davis to Joondalup will be great. Anyone know if Dove is returning to Joondalup (I know he's still in Perth)?

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Boomer  
Last year

a big coup for Wolves if they have managed to lure Caleb over. They managed to secure Michaels from the Senators this season. Now Davis. Brings back memories of when they acquired Salinas, Illiadis and Huntington from Senators.

The missing piece to the wolves this year was at the PG position so with Wade back healthy, turnage, Davis and possibly Michaels and Dove they will be a tough starting 5.

Do the wolves have any local juniors coming through? I know Wellsteed plays some good minutes for them but do they have anyone else? Chadinha has sat on the bench for a few years and is always one of the leading scorers in D League. Could he make that jump to being a regular part of their rotation at NBL1?

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

Buay Tuach back at the Slammers for a 3rd straight season

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Boomer  
Last year

Damian Barr announced as Hawks Mens Head Coach

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Andrew  
Last year

Jesse Pence named as the head coach for Joondalup Wolves Women.

https://joondalupwolves.nbl1.com.au/news/jesse-pence-to-lead-the-pack-in-2024-2025

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Groote  
Last year

Brave move by the Hawks appointing a coach who when in charge of the 18 Metro men the past two years has been found out with just two basic offenses and not much in the way of team ethos or backup plans once they figure your dribble handoff backdoor action out. That squad isn't getting any younger too.

I do like the signing of Pence for the Wolves women. Has done his apprenticeship and could bring over even more talent from SA to play for the Wolves.

Is that all teams filled now coach wise?

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Perthworld  
Last year

I'm enjoying this new absence of bizarre Cockburn gossip after the threat of legal action. Classic.

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Groote  
Last year

Rockingham with the huge signing of Alex Sharp. Willetton will not be impressed

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

@perthworld, not sure bizarre is the right phrase, there was plenty playing out and people had opinions, right or wrong. Give it time, I'm sure they'll generate their own headlines soon enough.

@groote, as a Cockburn person you're better placed to talk on the Hawks appointment, hasnt he been part of the family for a few years now? Odd decision from afar, most clubs avoid rookie coaches, especially the big ones. Interesting watching for sure.

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Groote  
Last year

He was one of the new regime of 'family', I wouldn't exactly claim him as one of ours given we are the third club he was at in the past ten years. He's passionate which is admirable but for mine he lacks the smarts required to be successful coaching at that level, especially at one of the powerhouse clubs who will be after more positive results fairly quickly.

Cockburn: Thwaites / Clayden
East Perth: Allen / ?
Geraldton: Joseph
Goldfields: Thompson / Manton
Joondalup: Pence / Morrell
Kalamunda: Bardill / Trahair
Lakeside: ? / ?
Mandurah: Alava / Utley
Perry Lakes: Mansfield / Barr
Perth: Rendulic / Nix
Rockingham: Wong / Petrik
South West: Chalk / Goff
Warwick: Robbins / Cooper
Willetton: Parker / Nener

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wildcat  
Last year

Cougars happy he's gone Groote

Never family

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Billy Bob  
Last year

Not family unless follow suit of the leaders?
That's not what a family is, that’s a cult.

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Andrew  
Last year

Lakeside Lightning Men: (Head Coach) Mike Malat (two-year deal)

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

Will be interested to see how Pence makes the change from Men's to Women's, basketball is same same but different, right? Didn't Eagles Men's coach sign long term too?

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Angry Ant  
Last year

So into the offseason,here is what we know so far.

Cockburn: New mens coach under questionable circumstances.

East Perth: All quiet out there.

Geraldton: Business as usual.

Goldfields: In turmoil, poor coaching , no players, no money local association in disarray.

Joondalup: New womens coach, will be a test.

Kalamunda: Trahair looking to build

Lakeside: Who knows???

Mandurah: Looking to recover and get back on track.

Perry Lakes: Mansfield doing his thing looking for a better 2024.
Barr unproven at this level. 2023 coaching staff nowhere to be seen???

Perth: Looking to build on 2023, women's have work to do.

Rockingham: New look, things are happening down there. Good or bad time will tell.

South West: Not sure if anyone cares.

Warwick: Good additions to the coaching staff with points to prove

Willetton: Heading in the right direction.

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Butts  
Last year

Couple of coaching signatures being announced on Instagram over the past couple of weeks.

Interesting, yet not at all surprising, seeing TT sign himself to a long term extension through to the end of 2027. He applying for a home loan or something and has to prove ongoing income?

Vlad down in Mandurah secure himself for three years on the girls side while Utley is back for another crack at the men's. What exactly does a coaching consultant in Bevo do when they don’t have the budget to compete?

Ryan Petrik back for another two years is no real surprise, make up for that slip up in the finals.

Kalgoorlie advertising both men’s and women’s coaches after a down year whilst the stadium is renovated.

Aaron Trahair back again with Kalamunda men while long time assistant Marcus Bardill has a crack in the main seat for the girls. Special shout-out to the Microsoft publisher graphic design!

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CRAYFISH  
Last year

South West womens adding 2 imports

East Perth men bringing back Young and Roberts

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koberulz  
Last year

Jakens and Doran following Sharp down to Rocko. Three straight grand finals and a mass exodus is bizarre.

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Groote  
Last year

If the rumours are true out of those at the Den with good friends down at Rockingham, then they have essentially given their juniors the middle finger to buy a women's championship

Signed or **TBA soon
Wong
Pineau
Jakens
Sharp
Doran
Gandini**
Robbie Ryan**

I wonder how President Boucaut justifies this to his juniors who pay higher fees than most associations. It's clear for everyone to see exactly where the money is going and it's not towards Development or promoting their own kids into the nbl1 squad. Makes sense now why certain people have left the club in the last few months. Dollars Over Development as TY called it in his Facebook post seems very appropriate now

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wildcat  
Last year

Bizarre or a reflection on something else Kobe..

Rocko women have to win a championship soon have spent the last three years searching for one. They have a whole pro team recruited in that's why all the kids have headed to Cockburn

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Rowan Mackenzie has left Lakeside and signed with Bendigo BraVes.
JD still unsure what he will do- still waiting to see who their PG will be.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Cougars Men have a big local player they will announce soon- will roll with no imports next season

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whatevr  
Last year

Can we expect Kelly and Gandini to sign in Rockingham soon? Winter? Parker to join as an assistant?

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koberulz  
Last year

I keep expecting to see Gandini and Ryan announced there, but they're running out of roster spots...

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Has Tuss resigned with Rocco yet? See he is assisting Ryan at the Lynx during training sessions during the week- another paying gig??

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Is Benny Henshall signing with the Cougars next season?

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Groote  
Last year

Not NBL1 related but something very interesting in relation to club retention and development, below is the WABL Clearance list as of today by club numbers of player movement.
(https://wabl.asn.au/clearances/)

Cockburn Cougars
Departed: 12
Arrived: 17

East Perth Eagles
Departed: 14
Arrived: 1

Eastern Suns
Departed: 11
Arrived: 8

Hills Raiders
Departed: 4
Arrived: 0

Lakeside Lightning
Departed: 8
Arrived: 21

Mandurah Magic
Departed: 9
Arrived: 0

Perry Lakes Hawks
Departed: 2
Arrived: 16

Perth Redbacks
Departed: 15
Arrived: 8

Rockingham Flames
Departed: 8
Arrived: 5

South West Slammers
Departed: 1
Arrived: 0

Wanneroo Wolves
Departed: 9
Arrived: 6

Warwick Senators
Departed: 12
Arrived: 17

Willetton Tigers
Departed: 13
Arrived: 19

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Anon  
Last year

Changes in both head coaches for the men and women at the Giants. Expect Matt Van Pelt to be announced as the mens head coach and assistant Jaymi Worthington to be announced as the womens head coach in coming days.

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Boomer  
Last year

Dupree announced at Tigers for 2024

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Anon  
Last year

Parker Williams off to Rocko too
Running out of brown paper bags down there surely
Good luck to them, and any juniors who are hoping for court time haha

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last year

What Rockingham are doing is making a mockery of the league. All members should be screaming at the board for the disgrace that it is. There is not a single junior in their first 10 (or as a result coming through their WABL programs either). This will be the most asterisk** championship in the history of the league. In 20 years time members can look back on the championship photo and point to all the Rockingham locals... oh wait. At least their men had some local stalwarts.

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Billy Bob  
Last year

Makes a mockery of the 'salary cap'

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Groote  
Last year

The Flames aren't the only party to blame for this - Wong showed during his tenure at the Wolves that he had no interest in developing their local talent. It's no surprise however why we have picked up several Rockingham juniors this offseason from their girls program, along with Lakeside also picking up a very handy to female junior formerly from the Flames.

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McBlurter  
Last year

Looks like the Rocko season fees are going up yet again for Winter 2024.

They're already $350 a season more than Lakeside...

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Dire Frisbee  
Last year

@Groote - why have a dig at Wong? Thwaites proved the blueprint last season, buy a championship, don't worry about developing junior talent (but feel free to sprout it all over social media). Wong not the issue, NBL1W coaches just following the TT blueprint now.

@McBlurter - why quote fees? Is it related, or does Lakeaide benefit from the incessant fund raising from the Church? What's the link? Are you saying the fees paid are being fed into the NBL1 program? I ask as many then refer to the additional sponsors Flames have as well?

@Groote - what was your point with the wabl changes? As a Cockburn, Willo, Flames person (seriously, pick an Association, you chop and change all the time), what was the point you were making? More parents/players "club hopping" these days along with the changes to wabl champ divisions, is it lack of club development, lack of competent coaches, what was the point to your post?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last year

Righto Piers Morgan

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McBlurter  
Last year

It's no secret fees realised from domestic programs go towards funding other programs.

$1,740 for Rocko vs $1,395 isn't a marginal difference.

If there is revenue pressures to pay (more for) the women's side now, some may be pessimistic.

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Knowall  
Last year

Basketball is a business these days and not a charity event. There are a number of clubs who have recognised this and realise have fully embraced this.
If punters are happy, they will pay the asking price and different clubs can charge
Perhaps the better way of looking at the higher charges are the punters prepared to pay for a better product than the cheaper option down the road

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Looks like Teige Morrell is joining Lakeside- they just hired her dad as their new HC!

https://news-bulletin.com/marty-zeller-leaving-vhs-for-australia/

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Grimace  
Last year

Her Husband is the men's wolves coach and she's been running their front office/membership for the last two seasons so turning the league into a family affair?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

yes that's Joondalup- but Marty Zeller (her dad) just signed onto Lakeside Lightning so she will be signing there now. MM is the mens coach so don;t think the husband will be joining for a full family affair

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West Whisper  
Last year

Teige Morrell has officially signed with the Ligntning, as previously predicted by TrevorTorrance.

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Fox 33  
Last year

Rocko continuing the bought not built path to a chip. Just signed Shani Amos

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Bored  
Last year

Theres going to be some players on that Rocko team expecting certain minutes that just based on the maths are going to be disappointed.

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koberulz  
Last year

Has Rocko re-signed even one player from last year?

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Iso24  
Last year

I think Coach Wong would be used to high pressure, high expectations from the Wolves so have no doubt he can handle that.

The bought not built maybe but thats also an argument that been around for forever - in a semi pro league that has grown since the NBL1 takeover its more and more irrelevant imo.

Looking at where Rocko was 10 years ago to now (and other clubs for that matter) its a credit to them for taking it on.

Other clubs have gradually improved, stayed the same or gone completely in the other direction ie Goldfields/Bunbury. its just the reality of sport.

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McBlurter  
Last year

Rockingham has 10 confirmed signings;

Alex Sharp from Willeton - last year 34m per game
Jess Jakens from Willeton - last year 25m per game
Sophie Doran from Willeton - last year 20m per game

Nes'aya Parker Williams from Joondalup - last year 26m per game
Shani Amos from Joondalup - last year 20m per game

Emma Gandini from North CG (QLD) - last year 35m per game

Georgia Pineau from Sandrginham (VIC) - last year 32m per game

Opal Mader returning - last year 17m per game (highest umber of minutes from last year resigned to date)
Tiana Wilson-Palamer returning - last year 11m per game
Emily Stevens returning - last year 1m per game
Jordyn Darcey returning - last year 0m per game


High(er) minute players from Rocko last season not yet resigned
Casey Samuels - 29m per game
Christina Boag - 20m per game
Lisa Koops (GER) - 20m per game
Mehryn Kraker - 33m per game
Teylia Evans - 23m per game
Marissa Pangalos - 20m per game
Tayah Burrows - 32m per game
Pania Evans - 8m per game (started college ? - Might have to wait end of season before signing a money contract?)

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Bored  
Last year

Based on those numbers above that seems to indicate there already arent enough minutes. Thats without Robbi Ryan or a similar import to come in as suggested above. Parker Williams probably expecting more minutes this year too given last year was down due to injury.

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McBlurter  
Last year

The list assembled is probably close to the full roster.

Tayah Burrows went to Sweden and released after 4 games early Novmeber, she is committed to Mt Gambier in NBL1 South for 2024.

Casey Samuels is fulfilling WNBL duties with Bendigo, then returning to Central Districts in NBL1 Central.

Kraker made it as an import for WNBL - Bendigo, and is probably looking for the highest bidder now across all of NBL1. Doubt there's enough minutes for her on the already assembled roster.

Could put a case for Koop (not the level they want from an import) and Boag not returning.

Teyla Evans, the new roster is guard heavy so there space for her, but she bounces around on her own accord, and could have told Rocko she isn't returning.

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Bored  
Last year

Yes, so with the above noted already signed plus Robbi Ryan who misses out?

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koberulz  
Last year

I do like this idea that all the players signing there are doing so in total ignorance of the minutes available, as though they're all complete idiots.

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JT  
Last year

Complete idiots are those singing about players getting paid. You have certain clubs paying players and increasing the professional status of the league. Isn't that a good thing?

Or would u rather no players be paid outside imports?

Because that’s the tune you are playing. As long as players are keen to be paid to play, those associations with more money will attract the better players.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last year

No JT just no

I hope you are never in charge of a club

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Andrew  
Last year

So it's official Caleb Davis to the Wolves. He will replace Ioannis Dimakopoulos who signed with the Redbacks.

https://joondalupwolves.nbl1.com.au/news/nbl1-all-star-caleb-davis-signs-with-the-joondalup-wolves-on-2-year-deal

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Boomer  
Last year

great pickup for the wolves there.

on another note, what does david okwera do?

signed with the wildcats from united, played secand half of season with redbacks in nbl1 and didnt set the world on fire. Has had practically zero opportunity with the wildcats. was a senators junior before going to melbourne. Does he return to his old stomping grounds to try and showcase what he can do at the senior level? With the redbacks clearly going in a different direction and the senators team blowing up this could be a decent option for him?

or does he return to the east coast and try to get more exposure to other nbl teams?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Did Devondrick Walker sign in Indonesia for next season?

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Perthworld  
Last year

Borneo Recruits NBL1 West Champion
27 December 2023

Borneo Hornbills finally introduced Devondrick Walker.

With his track record and career history above, it was very easy for Borneo Hornbills to choose him. Walker will be Borneo's main star next season. IBL 2024 will start on January 13.

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McBlurter  
Last year

My son saw Walker walking around Rockingham 2 weeks ago.

I would suspect a January season start means he's likely to be finishing the season at the Flames.

I would suspect this is just extra $$$ for him

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Grimace  
Last year

Where's a good place to get historical statistics? They seem to have even taken last season's off the nbl1 west website

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Perthworld  
Last year

My son saw Walker walking around Rockingham 2 weeks ago.

I would suspect a January season start means he's likely to be finishing the season at the Flames.

I would suspect this is just extra $$$ for him

The Indonesian season ends in June (regular) and July (playoff).

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Groote  
Last year

Some interesting news from friends up in the far northern suburbs. Bevo is coaching in Jakarta as part of the same league Walker has signed to. Obviously things didn't work out for him down at Mandurah then?! Quinton Dove formerly at Joondalup, also plying his trade in the same Indonesian League this upcoming season giving it a very NBL1 West feel to it. As mentioned above, season doesn't finish until late July so you cant imagine Walker or Dove back to play NBL1 this year.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Yeah heard they have some $$ to spend now, soft salary cap- even some ex NBA players in the league this season. Big loss to see Tuss go!

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

The IBL salary cap per team is about 1 million AUD per team in 2024! So makes sense they are getting some decent players now!

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JT  
Last year

@Bohemian Rhap..

You are a garden of weeds.. google search the meaning of that.. anyone know when Marty Zeller arrived in Oz? That's a blast from the past!

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McBlurter  
Last year

In Mandurah?

Bevo was High performance manager/coaching director at Rockingham until October this year.

He's done 2 months of private coaching since

1 million cap, wow. NBL1 will be plundered.

Perth can practically commute to Indonesia as a job.

Get to a decent standard, the IBL will be the trial comp for the NBL

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Yeah but only 2 NBL1 West guys have gone to the IBL this season, plus Bevo. 8 ex NBA guys have signed there too- a few decent role players too!
The NBL will def be looking to see what they can do, especially since the Malaysia/Asian Super League Tony Fernandez was funding went no where.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last year

Yeah but only 2 NBL1 West guys have gone to the IBL this season, plus Bevo. 8 ex NBA guys have signed there too- a few decent role players too!
The NBL will def be looking to see what they can do, especially since the Malaysia/Asian Super League Tony Fernandez was funding went no where.

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Groote  
Last year

McBlurter with the award for people who think they know everything on here but know nothing at all. This - as per the Mandurah Social Media release on Oct 12 this year. I look forward to seeing your apology


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/px7dZ1EwB8n2arAs/?mibextid=qi2Omg

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

A "consulting partnership" could mean almost anything.

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Dire Frisbee  
Earlier this year

Hang on @groote, you mean everyone on here isn't an expert? Damn, I'm going to need to reassess everything I've read now. #changeseverything

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

I could have told you that a long time ago about yours and Groote's posts Frisbee ;)

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Dire Frisbee  
Earlier this year

Hahahahaha...good one Rhap. **sigh** Surely you can do better than that? Someone of your intellect and insight shouldn't be scraping the bottom of this barrell.

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CRAYFISH  
Earlier this year

Not all roses at the hot house

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

You going to spill the tea cray fish?? Or keep it all to yourself

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Kyle Armor has signed with the Cockburn Cougars! Lakeside looking depleted now!

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West Whisper  
Earlier this year

Armour just trying to play for every club now.

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radar  
Earlier this year

pretty disappointing by kyle armour . what respect he has earned over the years with his play is slowly disappearing , as is his game .
your peers respect you more if you can hang tough with your club thru the highs and the lows not chase titles ( by the way does he have a title / ring ) re ryan godfrey .

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An1234  
Earlier this year

Armour has a title with East Perth

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Armour is now part of the cougar family

I dont think respect is lost because he has played on so many teams. Respect is lost when you handle yourself poorly. He wasnt in contract and probably got a better offer from the cougars. The money isnt enough to live on at NBL1 level so maximising what income you can get while you can get it is logical.

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Butts  
Earlier this year

Amongst opposition players Kyle has always been well liked and respected. For every Bob and Boof there are plenty of guys who change clubs for a variety of reasons.

The argument of sticking through thick and thin is a silly one, coaches change, teammates change, administration change, as does your own personal circumstances. He always conducted himself well that I'm sure he’s got plenty of friends and fans at all the clubs he’s been at.

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Your boy blue  
Earlier this year

Nix and the Redbacks going all out for this upcoming season

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Fox 33  
Earlier this year

And if they dont make a deep run Nix needs to be sacked. How many chances can a coach get with the chequebook he has had for no return?

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Bored  
Earlier this year

Buccs announce second import to go with former MVP Braun.
Joshua Keyes second import

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Dire Frisbee  
Earlier this year

In so far as the men go, it's all Redbacks to lose now, right? Not sure coach Nix could have invested in more from outside the club? How many Redbacks juniors playing NBL1 for them? Men or Women mind you? Even the NBL1 social media has all Suns uniforms in Redbacks player announcements.

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

Why don't you count how many Dire?

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Dire Frisbee  
Earlier this year

Going back through all the NBL1 announcements made by them so far I'm at a grand total of zero. What's your math say wildcat?

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Clapper9  
Earlier this year

In an unprecedented move that's sending shockwaves through the basketball world, the Cockburn Cougars have boldly embraced the "ultra small ball" era, revolutionizing the game as we know it. Imagine this: eight out of their twelve cougs suiting up are point guards.

Whats going on in rocko?!?!

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

Men or women clapper?

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Clapper9  
Earlier this year

Men

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Looks like a Cougs Chibba announcement incoming

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

Warwick announce signing of Michael Harris. That's huge. Should be one of the best players in the league.

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Meunier off to Waverley for 2024 season. Big loss for the buccs.

have heard that there have been a few other movements but not officially announced yet

Isaac Gattorna to senators
Ethan Elliott to wolves
Devan Craig returning to slammers
Harry evans to Hawks

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

I heard that Devondrick Walker is trying to get released from his Indonesian team so he can come back home and play with Rocco again this season- anyone else heard the same?

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Groote  
Two months ago

Given the money he's on it makes absolutely no sense why, regardless of how bad his team is, he would turn that substantial amount down to come back to Perth and play for 1/4 the amount. Keep trolling TT

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

call it as your will, just hearing from sources that have proved to be reliable in the past! How much is he on with Borneo?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Two months ago

Way too early power rankings anyone? Men? Women?

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Groote  
Two months ago

I've heard he's on a solid six figures at Borneo

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whatevr  
Two months ago

So same as Rocko then?

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Bumped into MM from Lakeside a few days ago, he is stoked to sign Mike Adewunmi as their first import- he think's he is a league MVP with his play and is stocked have gotten his man! stay tuned I guess!

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wildcat_but not TT  
Two months ago

Come on Carlin....oops, sorry Trevor, is there anything you don't think you know? Cap, no cap, does MM really think he is the answer.

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wildcat_but not TT  
Two months ago

Groote - now that you're at Mandurah, you still confident you're across all things Rockingham? Do you really know what Devondrick was on, or even what he's doing now in Indonesia?

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

WOW my identify is blown- NOT try again lad!
and yeah MM is super confident, only time will tell how good he can really be. 2nd mens import is meant to be even better... Walker was on 100k at Rocco plus apartment on the water.

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Dench and Okwera to East Perth

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Pasadena 72  
Two months ago

Axel Dench? Or Sunday Dech? One signing would be better than the other.

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Sunday using it to prepare for Olympics for Sudan

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Decent signing for the Eagles, Carl building a nice team there.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

how far away from preseason predictions?

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Julian Pesava is back in West with the Magic! Under the radar signing- solid- nice pairing with Taj!

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Quite a few of the bigger clubs appear to have stepped up with player improvement. Could be a nightmare for some of the lesser clubs.

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CRAYFISH  
Two months ago

Who's the massive Redbacks signing announced tomorrow?

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Hoops 62  
Two months ago

Anneli Maley

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Bohemian Rhap  
Two months ago

Big gamble by Redbacks

will be very unavailable for heap of season and probs finals

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Hoops 62  
Two months ago

Just a hopeful guess. To be fair is anyone actually going to be able to compete with Rocko?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Two months ago

Write the Cougs and Tiges off at your own peril

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Boomer  
Two months ago

With the signing of Maley at Redbacks and Rendulic now at the helm are the Redbacks a dark horse?

Great to see so much top level talent in the NBL1 west womens league.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Any know who Rocco will sign as the mens import cover the loss of Tuss?

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wildcat  
Two months ago

Is that a play on words Trev... ?

Boomer they will improve but not in champ tier. Rendulic has no cred just yet

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McBlurter  
Two months ago

Rocko may not replace Walker, maybe just give him time to rehabilitate.

Walker only played 2 games, apparently walking in injured. He was released by Borneo on Monday

https://iblindonesia-com.translate.goog/news/devondrick-walker-resmi-dilepas-borneo-hornbills?_x_tr_sl=id&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Yeah I thought as much! too many DNP's
Welcome back Tuss!

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Walker to Rocko official.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Will Tuss be ready for the season start in 4 weeks?
Who is Rocco's 2nd import?

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Boomer  
Last month

With under a month to go before the season its been a bit quiet apart from a few signing announcements here and there.

a number of the clubs have been having practice matches but no real talk about how certain teams are looking

anyone got any insights from recent practice matches?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Yeah no preseason game results even on the teams social's! weird!
It's what like 27 days until the first game?
All quiet on the western front huh?

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whatevr  
Last month

Redbacks beat Lakeside handily in the Womens.

Also heard Joondalup took the league to court? Not sure what about.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Preseason rankings coming soon- or we waiting for the final rosters?

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wildcat  
Last month

This forum has gotten booooring

Where is Woj and Boomer's pre season power rankings

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Shakenbake  
Last month

Rocko's only local player , Tiana Wilson Palmer has been granted a release apparently?

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Arkonfire  
Last month

Old news, been training with Mandurah for a while now.
Locals Napolitano, Steven & Darcey may want a word with you.

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eager_onlooker  
Last month

Preseason rankings, according to the NBL1 social posts, for the Men anyway, Nix has said Warwick are the dark horse, after his Redbacks being title favourites. To his credit, at least it isn't anonymous on here he's come out and pumped up a competitor.

As for power rankings, for the Men it has to be (based on announcements so far, preseason results, albeit unreported):

Wolves
Senators
Flames
Buccs
Redbacks
Lakeside
Cougars
Eagles
Willetton
Hawks
Suns
Giants
Slammers

Happy to hear what the experts think of that, come end of season I reckon it'll be pretty much spot on.

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Andrew  
Last month

Jeremy Combs signs with Wolfpack.

Nice starting 5:

Ethan Elliott
Jonathan Wade
CJ Turnage
Jeremy Combs
Caleb Davis

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

How are the Wolves allowed 3 imports- isn't it only 2?
Or is Wade on a Au passport now?
Looks like a solid 5!

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Grimace  
Last month

Wade at least on spousal PR, if not full citizenship

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

ok so he doesn't count as an import! well played!

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No Idea  
Last month

Men

Wolves
Flames
Buccs
Senators
Redbacks
Cockburn
Eagles
Suns
Tigers
Lightning
Hawks
Magic
Slammers
Giants

MVP - Todd Withers

First Team
G - Josh Braun
G - Devondrik Walker
F - Caleb Davis
F - Todd Withers
C - Sebit Reath

Women

Flames
Wolves
Cougars
Redbacks
Hawks
Lightning
Magic
Warwick
Tigers
Eagles
Giants
Suns
Slammers

MVP - Alex Sharp

First Team
G - Steph Gorman
G - Jayda Clarke
F - Emma Clarke
F - Alex Sharp
C - Sam Roscoe

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Boomer  
Last month

My preseason predictions for the men

1. Buccs
2. Wolves
3. Redbacks
4. Flames
5. Senators
6. Tigers
7. Cockburn
8. Lightning
9. Eagles
10. Hawks
11. Magic
12. Suns
13. Giants
14. Slammers

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The west  
Last month

Any truth M Nelson on the move ?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Look at the the 2024 NBL1 West season chat- yes- all true

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