Tomdelonge2
Last year
Perth @ Brisbane, Nov 18
Can Perth win on the road and keep the momentum going?
Tomdelonge2
Last year
Can Perth win on the road and keep the momentum going?
Dunkman
Last year
I'd say yes, certainly with Harrison being absent most likely.
Dunkman
Last year
Is Harrison in or out ? I still think cats will be far to good. Which Brisbane turns up, a few sides very hot and cold.
Luuuc
Last year
C-Web to miss the game with an ankle injury.
Credit where it's due to Rillie for being fully prepared for this scenario.
LoveBroker
Last year
If only Rillie's ability coach basketball was as elite as his abilities to foresee injuries .
Diop Kick
Last year
Baynes clearly still moving when cotton drove into him
Marius08
Last year
Refs are atrocious out of the block.
Teams shooting crap doesnt help either, but wow.
Dunkman
Last year
Great pass by Doolittle. Low scoring but tough quarter.
Another Anon
Last year
Contender for worse game of the year, by a long way.
Luuuc
Last year
This half is demonstrating why Cats fans weren't fooled by a few wins over bad teams
Dunkman
Last year
Cotton should be a boomer. Absolute bull shit. He's should be one off the first picked.
Ben
Last year
Just started watching the game. Seems there is a problem with the scoreboard overlay. It's says the score is 37-35 and that it’s also the third quarter. I had to be the second quarter with a score like that ... right?
Dunkman
Last year
Harris is probably one of cats lowest paid, but after Cotton he nearly the most important
Anon
Last year
How do you call a foul on the player that gets headlocked and his face ripped off??? These ref's are pathetic. Almost as bad as the game lol
Dunkman
Last year
Pinder never even new where the ball was, Baynes grabbed it and because Pinder was facing him he got tangled up, lucky review to cats imo.
Dunkman
Last year
Great R there by Harrison to cause the turnover followed by the Sobey dunk.
Another Anon
Last year
Usher need to be cut ASAP. just a black hole of bad street ball.
Anon
Last year
Pinder must be so frustrated, gets called for some of the softest crap. 4 fouls on perth inside 2.20....
Ben
Last year
Can't remember the last time I've seen Norton make a layup.
Anon
Last year
How the can you not see that is a foul??? Atrocious call.
Dunkman
Last year
Pinder hasn't been able to defend any of bullets bigs. Brisbane chucking it away again
Tomdelonge2
Last year
Anyone would think Bannan sunk a 3 to win the game. What a smoker
Ben
Last year
Tight game with under a minute left. Sobey time coming up.
Anon
Last year
Doolittle put in a very dangerous position, commentary can't even notice his face looks to have hit the floor...
Ben
Last year
Speaking of spuds, that Bullets possession to tie was an absolute cracker of one.
People talking well of the new coach, but gotta say the Bullets have been trash at the end of close games.
hoopie
Last year
Bannan with the hot hand - where was the play for him to take a good shot with seconds to go? SMH
Dunkman
Last year
Oh Brisbane have chucked it away. Cats keep winning.
Another Anon
Last year
Well it was Doolittle that got the board in the 4tb instead of BC so you gotta take that.
Bullets iso ball at the end again. Unbelievable.
LoveBroker
Last year
How do the Cats win with trash like Usher playing?
Dunkman
Last year
Harris plus 19, now absorb that stat on a 3 point win. Doolittle, Cotton very good. Brisbane should be further up the ladder they just don't know how to win.
Aza
Last year
Dear experts,
After wanting to sack everyone despite only a few games been played should Perth still sack everyone?
Bws1blood
Last year
Pinder looks deflated and totally knows he fs up leaving cairns
He doesn't have a role , doesn't feel involved and it's totally out of sorts
But hey wtf would I know
Only the commenting team and DJ vesaljvic is calling out rillie and the cats for bis lack of involvement in anything
Tomdelonge2
Last year
Hutchy be rocking back in his leather couch thinking he top sh1t.
Dunkman
Last year
What's the reason for Pinder playing very poor defence, I’d that the coach as well.
Bored
Last year
For all the comments about Pinder.. this is who he is. Cairns ran way more than most teams would through him so his numbers were inflated above where they would be elsewhere and now we are seeing that. He is very good at what he does well, but hes limited. He doesn't have a shot outside the keyway and he doesn't have postmoves. So he has to get it at the elbow and make quick one dribble moves. Forde had him basically doing that 15 times a game.
Bws1blood
Last year
U obviously didn't watch taipans games last year
The statement is comical
Pinders bread and Pinder was being placed on the block and going to work
Not sitting at the top of the key and driving to the whole
U mfz really are casuals , the majority of his points and plays run were literally in the loq post lol
Bws1blood
Last year
That's been the biggest issue the majority of his shots were from the block or with his back to the basket
Or PNR action from taipans players
If anyone thinks the cats are playing a good brand of bball isn't watching bball
Dunkman
Last year
Pinder, good player, not great, media loves him though as he got spectacular dunks. Teams that win championships don't always play attractive basketball but they play great D, you can say that about most sports.
Bws1blood
Last year
Attractive bball dunkman
Or just no real system outside of get the ball to one player at all costs , without any real rhyme or reason ..or true system on the offensive end
The schedule has been weak and we have got lucky
Only thing which has saved this team for a greater blow torch applied to them..that will change v v soon
Perthworld
Last year
Teams that win championships don't always play attractive basketball but they play great D
Perthworld
Last year
Pinder's productivity isn't on Forde as he did just as well in Spain last season. In fact his 2022-23 European and NBL stats were almost identical.
Dunkman
Last year
Pinder had a few massive minus games in Spain, he scored highly against Real in a loss when Real rested most their starters for a big euro league game and was around minus 17 on memory.
Dunkman
Last year
You are right but stats can be misleading at times.
Masters League
Last year
Another thing with Pinder and Spain, probably unnoticed by most, was the way Perth announced their signing of Pinder on 1 April, when Pinder actually played a game for Fuenlabrada that very night, and played even more games for Fuenlabrada that month. Then he sat out the last 6 games of the season injured. Fuenlabrada fans social media comments said not happy seeing Perth's premature announcement, disrespectful to Fuenlabrada while Pinder is on their team still with 10 games to end of regular season. I say unprofessional by Perth Wildcats and disrespectful by Pinder.
Bored
Last year
BWS1blood- You are right he did get the ball in the mid post more in Cairs similar to the elbow he would always turn and face and make a quick move. Using his speed rather than an actual post move.
AngusH
Last year
"Pinder, good player, not great, media loves him though as he got spectacular dunks. "
Dunks don't hurt, but he was one of the most dominant locals in the league. Whether he is great or not is subjective, but in Cairns' system he was featured and performed. Perth's system is very perimeter/Cotton focused which makes sense for the most part, but if they couldn't find a way to get Pinder involved back when Cotton couldn't hit the side of a barn to start the season, I don't see it happening now that he looks like Cotton again. It definitely limits their ceiling despite the win streak but they will always be a shot if Cotton is scoring in the mid-to-high 20s.
Luuuc
Last year
Making better use of Pinder is an obvious area of (potential) improvement.
Yes he has limitations but we clearly should be getting more out of him. To date we have seen glimpses only.
JR has had bigger fish to fry in terms of fixing things until now, but this one needs to be more of a priority now.
Bws1blood
Last year
@Bored
Tomayto - tomaaat toe ..
I think we R both right but it was a combo of both he def had his back to the basket along with catching it in the middle as U mentioned or coming off PNR action
Someone has yet to show me how at the very least why Bryce isn't catching Pinder as he rolls on any screen he sets and I mean ANY
He literally never passes to him in that action , but will do it for saar or Thomas last year
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As others have said rillie doesn't seem to do well to set up guys to play to there strengths
It's amazing to see the way Travers is thriving under a competent coach
Bws1blood
Last year
And.im sure highlights another other big reasons bowen went to UNITED rather then the cats
I'm know conversations were had between Travers and bowen about his potential for development under rillie
Perthworld
Last year
Another thing with Pinder and Spain, probably unnoticed by most, was the way Perth announced their signing of Pinder on 1 April, when Pinder actually played a game for Fuenlabrada that very night, and played even more games for Fuenlabrada that month. Then he sat out the last 6 games of the season injured. Fuenlabrada fans social media comments said not happy seeing Perth's premature announcement, disrespectful to Fuenlabrada while Pinder is on their team still with 10 games to end of regular season. I say unprofessional by Perth Wildcats and disrespectful by Pinder.
Anonymightymouse
Last year
"As others have said rillie doesn't seem to do well to set up guys to play to there strengths"
Number one offensive team in the league last year. Number one for assists.
Pinder has shot 3/13 the past two games. Before that he was averaging 15.5ppg at 51% on 10.7 shot attempts (last year he averaged 16.9 at 50% on 12.4, which was almost identical per minute to his first 10 games this year).
The challenge for Perth is how to get more from him while still being successful. Last season, Cairns were 10-9 with Pinder playing and 10-4 without him.
At the moment, the Wildcats are having success utilising other aspects of the offence, can they find a way to mix more Pinder in while maintaining what's working well ATM?
Dunkman
Last year
Interesting stat that, 10-4 with out him and 10-9 with him. If that is correct my summing up was reasonable, good player, not great defensively, great spectacular dunker and media love.
Riley has won five straight, season end will be his test, no one is beating united though.
Bws1blood
Last year
I hate smart dumb MFa who watch box scores and analytics and not the ACTUAL game
If we are talking about that let's talk about how many shot attempts was Taking and shots he wasn't making
And what was the record during that period ?????????????
How and where Pinder is getting those shots on the flow of the offense and where he is getting the ball is the issue
I can take as many shots as I did last year but if they aren't in my spots or every 1 or 2 every quarter and I can't get a rythm what's the point
Now imagine if Pinder was being utliIed like he was in parts during the start of the season to add to Bryce's better looks
Now we are taking a team firing on all cylinders
Not just on 1
No one who is watching the cats at the moment believes Pinder is being used correctly
If Deejay , hevwrin etc are saying it and your saying otherwise your either blind or a cotton meat rider
Bws1blood
Last year
How many shots cotton was taking X makin and our record during that period
What was the analytics telling us then
Dunkman
Last year
Take a chill pill, opinions are allowed to be different, by the way basketball is a very stats oriented game. I've watched every game this season and last by the way of all teams, I love it. I’ll take my opinion and others over yours. If you think Pinder is going to be the main man at Perth ahead of Cotton, I’d say you are on your own there. Lol
Drexler
Last year
Pinder zero offensive boards in the last 2 games according to box score, need to see some more rim rockin put back action. Like Bryce had a bit of a down patch Pinder will find his spot then things become really dangerous I look forward to it.
Bws1blood
Last year
Maybe because rillie has Pinder floating around the three point line most of the time and. Ot down on the block in the mod to low post area
Drexler
Last year
Yeh deffo out of position too often, rebounding from the 3 point line never works but seems to be the go to strategy at times
Perthworld
Last year
but because they're winning now people ignore it. Such "it's all good" short sightedness.
Luuuc
Last year
Don't be less than glowing about anything, Perthworld, or Lowery will accuse you of having an "attitude problem" and "yap-yap-yapping".
Identifying areas for improvement = being "too spoiled"
Perthworld
Last year
I watch on mute so imagined his commentary was bad but evidently it's worse than that.
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