Luuuc
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WNBA 2024 Season

Reminder that the draft lottery is 8:30am AEDT this coming Monday, with Indiana (44% change of pick #1), Phoenix (28%), LA (18%) & Seattle (10%) in the mix.


Catching up from the other thread ...


Weedy Slug:

ESPN 2024 MOCK

PUOCH #7
AMOORE #9
BORLASE #12



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Blues67
Should be

Borlase
Puoch
Amoore



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Weedy Slug
Puoch should probably wait a year and develop.
Shelley is also in, late 3rd round.


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Cool Howie  
Last year

Be interesting to see what Caitlin Clark does. Probably making better coin staying in college from what I understand.

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JD14  
Last year

How much does she make in college? I didn't know they get paid there. and how much would she make in WNBA? Not as much?

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Last year

College gets N.I.L. payments from what I understand.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I don't really buy that theory.
I can see how it could make sense for someone who is a big deal in college but unlikely to be a star at WNBA level, but Clark is on the trajectory to earn a max WNBA salary, potentially even bigger bucks overseas (if she wants them), and there's no reason why her endorsements as a pro would need to bring in any less for her than her current NIL deals.
There are other perfectly good reasons to stay in college another year of course. I just doubt it would be the more financially lucrative option for her.

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JD14  
Last year

Will she wait to decide who gets the number 1 pick before nominating for the draft? Apparently Golden State have a team next year, so maybe wants to be the face of that franchise? Otherwise, goes to Indiania probably and thats a small market.

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Luuuc  
Last year

She can wait until just a few days before the draft before making her decision, so yes if she decides that for example Indianapolis is not for her then she can factor that in.

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Last year

Indiana basketball a small market ? basketball is huge there

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Luuuc  
Last year

Indy is consistently at the bottom end of WNBA attendances, in a league where 8 out of 12 teams make the playoffs the Fever have managed to fail 7 seasons in a row, financially the franchise has been a perennial struggler, and Indianapolis as a city is not generally considered a primo destination for its weather or attractions or culture or anything for most people.
Not exactly top spot on the list for people wanting to maximise their marketability I'd wager - especially not when LA is one of the other possibilities.

But hey, maybe she's loving Iowa and wants to keep those same rural vibes going for her pro career. Indy would be a good fit in that case. Depends what she is after. It's also a team in need of a hero. She could be the player to help lift them back to relevance again. That might be appealing for her, who knows.

The speculation can go up a notch once we actually know the draft order on Monday.

It's nice for her that she has the option when it comes to declaring. That is something most players don't traditionally get. One of the few silver linings of Covid.

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Luuuc  
Last year

1. Indiana
2. LA
3. Phoenix
4. Seattle

Rest of round 1 atm:
5. Dallas
6. Washington
7. Minnesota
8. Atlanta
9. Dallas
10. Connecticut
11. NY
12. LA

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Blues67  
Last year

I'm tipping Borlase to NY Liberty at #11

Seems like a good fit, Sandy as coach who has already spoken glowingly of her talent. Also, their team is loaded so no pressure to make the move for another 1-2 years where she can develop in Australia.

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Weedy Slug  
Last year

I dunno about that one, Sandy probably after a pg.

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Luuuc  
Last year

CVS isn't getting any younger so yeah I think she probably is too. Although in the past she has been more of a trader than a drafter when it comes to her main needs.

But there's so much free agency water (and college performances water, and draft nominations water) to go under the bridge before the draft, so it's hard to make any kind of quality guesses at the moment about who picks who.

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Last year

borlase currently at 12 to LA

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Luuuc  
Last year

It's obviously still way too early to be accurate, but I find them interesting to track so here's a collection of recent 1st round mocks that Todd Roman (@TBRBWAY on Twitter) has recently compiled:




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Weedy Slug  
Last year

Good to see 3 from down under, Borlase not making any top 12 currently is wild.

We will definitely see 3 Aussies get drafted and 1 kiwi. If Shelley continues playing well, she'll make it too.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I agree that Shelley is on track as well. 4 aussies would be a great result.

Even the day before the draft the draft order predictions for foreign players can be very random. So 5 months out I wouldn't read too much into them at all. (The predictions for the US players still have more fluctuations to come as well, I'm sure)
Foreigners also always get marked downward due to being less reliable with showing up / having national team commitments, and that is fair enough.

I know it's more prestigious to be drafted higher up, but I'm never bothered when an aussie gets picked "too low", as long as they still get picked. I actually kinda like it. Less pressure, and it's nice for the team when their selection "overachieves" even though we knew all along what the player was capable of.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

ESPN's latest mock draft has 3 aussies in the 1st round


1. Indiana Fever: Caitlin Clark | Iowa | point guard | 6-foot-0 | senior
2. Los Angeles Sparks: Cameron Brink | Stanford | power forward | 6-foot-4 | senior
3. Phoenix Mercury: Paige Bueckers | UConn | point guard | 6-foot-0 | junior
4. Seattle Storm: Kamilla Cardoso | South Carolina | center | 6-foot-7 | senior
5. Dallas Wings: Rickea Jackson | Tennessee | power forward | 6-foot-2 | senior
6. Washington Mystics: Aaliyah Edwards | UConn | power forward | 6-foot-3 | senior
7. Minnesota Lynx: Alissa Pili | Utah | power forward | 6-foot-2 | senior
8. Atlanta Dream: Angel Reese | LSU | power forward | 6-foot-3 | senior
9. Dallas Wings: Georgia Amoore | Virginia Tech | point guard | 5-foot-6 | senior
10. Connecticut Sun: Nyadiew Puoch | Australia | small forward | 6-foot-3
11. New York Liberty: Charisma Osborne | UCLA | shooting guard | 5-foot-9 | senior
12. Los Angeles Sparks: Isobel Borlase | Australia | shooting guard | 5-foot-11



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Footloose  
Two months ago

Noticed Washington GM Thibault at the Flyers game last week, sitting on the baseline, checking out Puoch?

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Most likely. He loves a scouting trip down under.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Free agency is underway.

First move involving an aussie is a cool one. Fleur McIntyre -> Phoenix Mercury.

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LC  
Two months ago

We have US execs flying down under to watch Puoch, and yet she is languishing on the bench. Not sure what the go is their between Puoch and Chambers.

It's not good for Puoch, the club or the league.

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Weedy Slug  
Two months ago

Chambers as a development coach= not good. Myself and others have said numerous times that Puoch and Loughridge would be better off going somewhere else and not staying home. Look what happened to Reid's career when she left.

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+  
Two months ago

that is a good draft year - some talent there

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

^ Yes - potentially a strong draft class, though the Covid option to stay in college still applies so it remains to be seen how many eligible players actually end up nominating

Re. Puoch, I guess the silver lining is that she'd be a draft-and-stash player either way, but yes this WNBL season has probably hurt her draft position. Not that position really means a huge amount anyway in the WNBA.

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BigD  
Two months ago

"Not good for Puoch, the club, or the league."

Did anyone stop and think that maybe it's not a coincidence that Southside have started winning and playing much better since Puoch got benched and slashed her minutes.

Being long and athletic doesn’t always equal being good. Perhaps she should earn her minutes, she doesn’t play any defence, she’s a below average shooter and she can’t go left if her life depended on it. Huge upside don’t get me wrong, but she’s got a long, long way to go.

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Wnblfan  
Two months ago

Agree that she has been overhyped and I hope it doesn't impact her draft/stash/camp experience. Hopefully the scouts have got look at players who could be worthy of a training camp contract if interested (Atwell? Can’t forget she made a roster last year) and also a prospect for the future (Jayda Clark is certainly holding her own as a true rookie in limited minutes).

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DMc  
Two months ago

Alanna Smith to Minnesota on a 2 year deal.

And a couple of clubs (Liberty and Mystics) in talks with Didi Richards apparently (might explain her jump in WNBL form over the past few weeks?!).

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Amoore finding some form again. 2 good games in a row from her.

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Cosmo Spacely  
Two months ago

Watched Amoore turn Georgia Woolley inside out about 20 times in their game against Syracuse , way to fast for her .

I don't think she is WNBA ( maybe get drafted and stashed or drafted and cut) but has to be nearly the best prospect coming back for WNBL next year. Would be a great fit in a team like Perth.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

She's a star college senior projected to be picked in the 1st round by most, so I doubt anyone is drafting her to stash her away.

Will she stick? Her size is against her for sure. 1st round picks don't tend to get cut in year 1 though so hopefully she is drafted early and gets every chance to succeed.

And yeah I agree her game suits the Lynx style perfectly. Make that happen, Ryan!

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QuokkaWoylie  
Two months ago

Amoore unlikely to be stashed but Puoch almost definitely will be. As others have said too raw.

Georgia having a great season, Australia now has a decent stock of point guards. Reid, Amoore, Melbourne, Wallace - all can play the 1 and offer something different. Going to be interesting how things all shape up around LA28.

I think Smith will be a good fit on the Lynx, pleased she signed there, any news on what Allen is doing?

I chuckled seeing this bit of transaction news:

"Dec 11

The Minnesota Lynx renounced their rights to Kelsey Griffin."

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Luuuc  
Last month

LV have said goodbye & thank you to Cayla George


A flurry of non-Aussie transactions happening, the biggest so far being Diggins-Smith signing with Seattle

https://www.wnba.com/players/transactions

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Bluey  
Last month

Diggins-Smith to Seattle is huge! Great signing

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DMc  
Last month

Bec Allen to Phoenix (for Mo Jefferson), and apparently Mercury are a preferred destination for Delle Donne as well.
That makes for a lot of veterans with higher than average injury risk that Phoenix will be relying on.

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Blues67  
Last month

Yes, Phoenix will be a flip of the coin on whether they have injury issues, roster looks good on paper but Delle Donne and Taurasi miss multiple games every year.
I love the addition of Cloud, arguably the best two way player in the league.

PG - Cloud
SG - Taurasi
SF - Allen
PF - Delle Donne
C - Griner

3 elite defensive players in Cloud, Allen and Griner

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JD14  
Last month

Any rumours on if another WNBA will recruit Cayla George since the Aces have let her go? I hope so! Also suprised they did not re-sign her after her finals performance, was outstanding.

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DMc  
Last month

At 34 years old I'd be very surprised if anyone was interested in signing her.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Amy Atwell has signed a training camp contract with Phoenix :)

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Cosmo Spacely  
Last month

Hope Atwell can keep on her feet at the WNBA Trials , has become the biggest offensive flopper this season.

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DMc  
Last month

If you're referring to her not keeping her feet on tightly contested 3 point attempts, some would call it flopping, others would call it avoiding injury by not landing on the feet of over zealous defenders who take away her landing space.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Bueckers made it official today that she's returning to UConn next season.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Trying to be #1

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Luuuc  
Last month

New ESPN mock


1. Indiana Fever: Caitlin Clark
2. Los Angeles Sparks: Cameron Brink
3. Chicago Sky: Rickea Jackson
4. Los Angeles Sparks: Kamilla Cardoso
5. Dallas Wings: Aaliyah Edwards
6. Washington Mystics: Angel Reese
7. Minnesota Lynx: Nyadiew Puoch
8. Chicago Sky: Alissa Pili
9. Dallas Wings: Georgia Amoore
10. Connecticut Sun: Jacy Sheldon
11. New York Liberty: Charisma Osborne
12. Atlanta Dream: Elizabeth Kitley

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last month

Amoore's season just keeps getting better, she should have a lot of attention towards her next month. Really curious how she'll eventually work out at pro level. Something like Steph Reid hustle with Whitcomb like shooting.

At Jaz Shelley's Nebraska they're currently embroiled in a coach/ex-player scandal. Big yikes there.

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Bluey  
Last month

https://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/womens-basketball/former-nebraska-womens-basketball-player-accuses-ex-coach-of-grooming-her-into-sexual-relationship/article_44239351-929d-5abc-8cfe-019a78d07679.html

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last month

https://www.beyondwomenssports.com/wnba-mock-draft-2-0-before-the-madness/

This mock lists
Puoch - 9
Borlase - 13
Amoore - 17
Shelley - 19
Loughridge - 29

That'd be quite the draft for Aussies

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