Bballfan
Earlier this year
Are there any examples of clubs from across Australia that have been very successful in their junior programs in the past, but have fallen on lean times before rebuilding to return to the top again?
Billy Bob
Earlier this year
Dandenong. Harvey has really returned them to the top after moving from nunawading. Before her arrival they were really dropping fast.
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Earlier this year
any club needs to know it's identity first and have people on board that are on the same page. Also depends what you call successful - some not worried about court results just want faces that fit
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Earlier this year
also clarify what you mean by lean - i.e. winning titles, no stadium, playing numbers down, financial, outlook, experience, interest ?
Hoopin’ in the burbs
Earlier this year
Dandy is a great example of that. I agree. Best example I can think of in recent times? But also think the definition of success is relevant. Winning? Sustainability? Dandy are winning again but have they recovered from whatever financial mess they were in?
Only other club I can think of that took a recent dive is Hawthorn? but the recovery there would be different. Dandenong is the only rep program in its area. It just needed better leadership it seems. Hawthorn is in an area that has a few rep level options, and so the recovery is not going to take anywhere near the same path.
Maybe Knox is another example? They went through it (financial issues) and at least to my knowledge recovered. But like dandy, the locals are not smothered with rep basketball options like those inner suburbs.
Bballfan
Earlier this year
Lean reference is about winning titles. Why did Dandy decline? What did Harvey do? Was it a quick or slow turnaround?
Hoopin’ in the burbs
Earlier this year
Harvey has been involved in basketball longer than she has been breathing! So her experience and network helped her implement culture change. Her reputation I'm sure helped with recruiting. But both of those things I think helped them return to winning. Hard to ignore her impact there.
Saphire
Earlier this year
Dandenongs turnaround is phenomenal particularly considering it has two strong clubs in close proximity in Casey and Frankston. I don't know how Harvey did it but it’s great to see Dandenong back as a top club after so many years
Footloose
Earlier this year
Harvey turned it around so quickly because she took something like 12 Nunawading coaches with her & a bunch of top kids went with them.
On top of that, Dandenong has always been a destination club' because it’s easy to get to from all sides. So they get quality imports coming to them in all age groups (except U12’s), every year.
When you don’t have the pull that Harvey has (I take my hat off to her), you need to focus on building your base up, which is the domestic space. Get that right & the rest will follow.
Saphire
Earlier this year
It is always interesting to watch. It generally is about the top people not having effective leadership style or not doing the right thing and people show their disapproval with their feet. Havey took 12 coaches with her I read Havey creates loyalty. Magic has a new GM so hopefully there will be a turnaround there but it may take time
Isaac
Earlier this year
Thread pruned and locked. Sorry, just not worth any legal risk people create in situations like this. I appreciate those that replied to the original question in the spirit of it though.
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