Luuuc
Earlier this year

WNBL 24/25

Ball in BA's court as NBL owner looks to buy into WNBL

The ball is in Basketball Australia's court as NBL owner Larry Kestelman formally explores the possibility of purchasing the WNBL in a landmark play to unite the sport in Australia.
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But despite the surging popularity of basketball in Australia, seven of eight WNBL sides operate at a loss.
AAP understands BA is open to a change in the way the WNBL is run.
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"We're working on some new concepts with them that'll come to fruition in the coming weeks in months."
Discussions of the sale come as Geelong's basketball association, Geelong United Basketball, joins forces with a private consortium of investors to purchase the Melbourne Boomers' WNBL licence, subject to approval from BA.
Under the proposed sale, the franchise would relocate and rebrand as the Geelong United Boomers.
AAP understands the major sticking point is that from a broadcast standpoint, BA would prefer there to be two teams running out of Melbourne, rather than only the Southside Flyers.
But with no other buyers interested in the Boomers' licence, the only other options appear to be BA running the team themselves, or the franchise collapsing.

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Footloose  
Earlier this year

just let LK take ownership of the entire league already!! Plus, what difference does it make whether the Boomers are located at Parkville or Geelong?

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KET  
Earlier this year

Interesting - I'd like to see NBL takeover WNBL and see more alignment - see if they can find efficiencies like resourcing, digital infrastructure, see if they can use it to get sponsors across both leagues plus NBL1 and juniors to broaden the value proposition and demographic reach. Maybe that extends into the broadcast rights arena eventually too.

And then ofcourse there’s alignment with things like a potential gather round.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

There's so much to be done behind the scenes to bring this to fruition in time for next season, but I'm getting mostly positive vibes from the snippets I'm hearing so keep your fingers crossed everyone.

Since every day matters, everyone should also get behind the Lynx to sweep the GF series 2-0, thus allowing 100% focus to be on next season with minimal delay ;)

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BigD  
Earlier this year

The location of the Boomers is a massive deal when it comes to broadcast deals, that would be a major sticking point.

If you only have the one team in Melbourne it'll be impossible to get Kayo/ESPN to have a broadcast deal, which is what they’re after (same as NBL). If Kestelman is in talks to buy the league, he wouldn’t allow only one Melbourne franchise if it can be avoided.

On next season - there’s rumours flying around that A LOT of players are moving to Europe to chase the $$. The league may be missing almost all of their big names next year.

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JD14  
Earlier this year

BigD - where are these rumuors coming from? and what players?

On next season - there's rumours flying around that A LOT of players are moving to Europe to chase the $$. The league may be missing almost all of their big names next year.

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Weedy Slug  
Earlier this year

LK will want to align all teams or atleast most of them in a few years if he takes it over.

Bendigo ain't gonna survive, Tassie license surely.
Canberra will likely have a future men’s team, so they should be fine.
The rest already are aligned apart from

-Cairns/townsville
-Brisbane/no brisbane, easy fix
-Nz/no nz
-illawarra/no Illawarra

I think the aim might be 10 teams for a while before nz and Illawarra come in.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Yeah, I'm not sure if they're included in the immediate expansion plans but it would be great to get NZ back in the league.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Earlier this year

Brisbane already have a team coming don't though? Although latest I heard is that was delayed as well.

One of the local podcasts was hyping up the prospects of a women's NZ team play in the comp. Hopefully that would mean the league is run more professionally though. Some long flights, especially to and from Perth!

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Weedy Slug  
Earlier this year

Expansion plans were for Brisbane and Newcastle but that was years ago.

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Camel 94  
Earlier this year

Lynx arent aligned with the Wildcats . The license was given back to BWA by Bendat due to their viability a few years ago. Hutchy should have bought that license back when he bought the Wildcats but bought the Bendigo Spirit instead because of his strong country Victoria roots and didnt want to see them go under.Could have potentially had a NBL Game 3 semi and a WNBL Game 2 GF at RAC Arena on the same if they had both.

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Weedy Slug  
Earlier this year

Aligned by location.

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LC  
Earlier this year

Hearing the Geelong venture is not going to happen.

Also, Geelong does not align with a possible NBL takeover model so cannot see it working unless LK starts a Geelong NBL franchise.

I too am hearing a plethora of WNBL stars are looking to head to Europe post Olympics.

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Dave Marshall  
Earlier this year

Newcastle are still keen, but it's contingent on a replacement for Broadmeadow Stadium being built, and that's currently a bureaucratic mess.

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BigD  
Earlier this year

Geelong venture is indeed not happening.

Now up to 5 teams might be handing back their licence in boycott of BA running the league.
This is becoming such a mess.

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Weedy Slug  
Earlier this year

Forcing the hand of BA who are incompetent.

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LC  
Earlier this year

It really is getting messy for BA...

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QuokkaWoylie  
Earlier this year

Any decent reporting on this anywhere?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Lynx arent aligned with the Wildcats . The license was given back to BWA by Bendat due to their viability a few years ago. Hutchy should have bought that license back when he bought the Wildcats but bought the Bendigo Spirit instead because of his strong country Victoria roots and didnt want to see them go under.Could have potentially had a NBL Game 3 semi and a WNBL Game 2 GF at RAC Arena on the same if they had both.

It's actually a good thing they faded SEG ownership.

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cabbage  
Earlier this year

So... have Southside got a game 3 push in them? I kinda suspect not, but hope so, coz more basketball.

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Weedy Slug  
Earlier this year

All WNBL clubs not interested in BA revamp of league.

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BigD  
Earlier this year

It's really saying something for all eight clubs to boycott BA having anything to do with the league.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

"As it stands right now, I'm told that the Melbourne Boomers are out (of the WNBL competition) for next year"
- Shane Heal


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WNBL also posted today that the free agency period officially starts on 10/5/24

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Footloose  
Two months ago

out completely Luuuc? Or now Geelong?

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

I don't see anything about this on the WNBL or BA websites that I can link to (shock), but the Pick & Roll tweeted this update today:




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Jayhoops  
Two months ago

I also saw that post from TP&R and can't find the statement anywhere else. Perhaps it was distributed to media outlets, and they've published before the WNBL/BA got their shit together? (shock)

LK has a lot of bargaining power with WNBL clubs giving BA an ultimatum. This is pure conjecture, but I imagine he's offered effectively zero capital for controlling interest in the league. Neither factor of which would sit well with BA given they're clinging to relevancy.

I'll be interested to learn what sort of capital they can raise for a product that will lose money for 5-10 years at a minimum. At least a LK-owned WNBL could consolidate resources with NBL franchises and/or the league office.

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Footloose  
Two months ago

Sounds like a step in the right direction

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DMc  
Two months ago

Seems like they still want to keep majority ownership and decision making control, but want others to subsidise it for them?!

Probably unlikely to happen, but it'd be great if they were able to attract investors who are already involved in women's bball, such as WNBA ownership groups or current /former players (similar to how NBA players have bought stakes in NBL teams). Imagine if WNBA power couple Diana Taurasi and Penny Taylor (or one/some of the cashed up young stars such as Caitlin Clark or Angel Reese!) bought a minority stake!

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+  
Two months ago

older players may have some $ but newer ones still establishing themselves and getting set up. Would be multiple leagues looking for investors.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

how much are they trying to raise? So LK is keen to absorb the WNBL but pay nothing and run under the NBL banner? What assurances has he given?

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Weedy Slug  
Two months ago

If BA let go of the wnbl then they would have to lay off quite a few people. Those at the top would also see big hits to salaries.
These people still think the nbl being sold to lk was a mistake.

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BigD  
Two months ago

Would they though?
Have you seen how low the number of people they actually employ for the WNBL?

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Dr Dre  
Two months ago

WNBL is dead, - More local players to head off overseas next season.

Time to consider NBL1 women becoming the premier competition by gaining EOI's from 2-3 clubs in each state to form a Super League and build from there.

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Weedy Slug  
Two months ago

Or kestleman creates nbl (women/men) and let BA fail with wnbl.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

Yeah, exactly. What's to stop LK starting his own women's league?

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Dr Dre  
Two months ago

Limited to no Financial benefit for LK Group to join the men/women competitions. WNBL needs to be a Non-profit set up, even playing field in terms of player budgets and share expense as much as possible. Any profit from commercial sponsorship after expenses invested back into the league. Must be run at a worst case breakeven every year.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Two months ago

The WNBL as a competition is the longest running professional league for women (regardless of what that looked like at the start) in Australia, you would hope they'd be able park their egos enough to work out how to keep it going.

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hoopie  
Two months ago

Quokka, you cracked me up on that last one. Love your optimism.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Two months ago

That's what I think needs to happen not necessarily what I think will happen. Honestly, for how big a grass roots sport basketball has become it surprises me how insular it is at every level (club, nbl1, BA etc). No idea how you'd even attempt to fix that.

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

A few random snippets from the Code Sports article "Inside the fight to save ailing WNBL from oblivion"

Gerry Ryan and Robyn Denholm have joined powerhouse NBL owner Larry Kestelman in expressing interest in taking ownership of the WNBL as Basketball Australia ramps up its move to attract investors to revive the ailing league. And, in the wake of a Geelong consortium's bid to relocate Melbourne Boomers, CODE can reveal Hutchison’s SEN — which already owns WNBL club Bendigo — has been in talks with Basketball WA about acquiring the Perth licence.
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Basketball Australia boss Matt Scriven claims there have been "10-15" potential buyers reach out with interest in investing in the women’s league.
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Ryan revealed he faces a bill of close to three-quarters-of-a-million dollars, despite his Flyers winning the 2024 WNBL title
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Scriven said commercial sensitivities prevented him from revealing details but he was confident of having a deal sealed with a new owner or owners within the month.


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Weedy Slug  
Two months ago

Hopefully scriven and co do the right thing. Lk / Denholm / Ryan net worth is over 2 billion between them.

Seems like those at BA are ... self serving.

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Bluey  
Two months ago

Seems like those at BA are ... self serving.

truer words have never been spoken Weedy.

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DMc  
Two months ago

Anyone able to share a summary of the Code Sports article just posted re: future of Melbourne Boomers?

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Weedy Slug  
Two months ago

DH scriven wants to move boomers to Geelong.
Trying to push it through quickly before May 10.

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hoopie  
Two months ago

Well, after Scriven did such a great job at Hawthorn that he was picked to run BA, I'm sure that whatever he comes up with will be for the good of the sport and will prove a great investment.

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

DH scriven

Well said.

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The Big Duke  
Two months ago

WNBL surely must have some concerns about the WNZNBL? Another competition throwing coin around, at least not at AFLW levels.

Apparently teams have a $200k salary cap with 5 import slots ,each team is required to sign two of these imports as Aussies, can see some of the fringe younger players moving across.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Game Over for Boomers as BA Relents on Geelong Bid

The WNBL's oldest club has bounced its last ball with BA set to approve Melbourne Boomers' move to Geelong.
Following Code Sports' recent reports of growing frustration at a protracted process, multiple sources confirmed BA's management team, led by chief executive Matt Scriven, has notified all clubs of its intent to recommend the Boomers' licence be transferred to a high-powered consortium that includes Geelong United Basketball Association.
The Boomers will cease to exist in their current form and the new team will enter the league from the 2024-25 season. It will be branded Geelong United and play in the navy blue and white club colours, similar to the AFL Cats.
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Bluey  
Last month

Swain to be the first player signed?

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KET  
Last month

United sucks as a name unless they affiliate with Melbourne United NBL side.

Otherwise isn't there an ability to make them Geelong Supercats?

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Luuuc  
Last month

The new club will move quickly. It's understood to already have agreements in place with some players



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Also from a yesterday article:

... Basketball Australia edges closer to locking in a group if investors to revive the ailing league, while media magnate Craig Hutchison is set to acquire the Perth Lynx license. Hutchison is closing on a deal with the Lynx, which will see the SEN boss take ownership of his second WNBL franchise alongside the Bendigo Spirit.

We can reveal potential investors in the league will, this week, receive documents outlining the sale's prospective details.
This will allow interested parties to review the plan to reignite the WNBL before making any formal commitment.

Basketball Australia currently has multiple interested parties, including NBL boss Larry Kestelman, Tesla Australia boss Robyn Denholm, and Southside Flyers owner and Jayco head honcho Gerry Ryan.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/basketball/wnbl-sale-making-progress-as-highprofile-media-magnate-closes-in-on-securing-the-perth-lynx/news-story/bf5b3e5ba6a014cb393652c2c3d6cc9f

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Deputy  
Last month

What will become of the existing GU NBL1 South team? Will they still compete in the secondary comp as well as the WNBL?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

This has failure written all over it. More rumours of more players headed to Europe.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Last month

Bit worried about what it means with one ownership group owning 2 teams, the two Melbourne clubs now rebranded and relocated. League is limping along.

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Luuuc  
Last month

This has failure written all over it. More rumours of more players headed to Europe.

It really does sound like a mad scramble at the moment. It seems likely that this season will be a bit of a shemozzle regardless of what decisions are made, so I'm just hoping that the decisions made are the best ones for the long term. I will happily live with one farcical season if it means there is a good foundation and potential for a properly functioning league in the subsequent ones.

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DMc  
Last month

Email from Melbourne Boomers-

The owners of the Melbourne based WNBL club - the Deakin Melbourne Boomers has announced today they will transfer their WNBL license to a Geelong based consortium.

The Deakin Melbourne Boomers has been a powerhouse club in the Women's National Basketball League for 40 years having won two Championships and supported the careers of many successful female basketballers and Australian Opals representatives.

Speaking on behalf of the current ownership group, who assumed control of the license in 2016 from the Bullen and Templestowe Basketball Association (after it faced closure), the Chair, Tony Hallam shared that this is a sad day for all involved with the Boomers especially its loyal and passionate fans and members. Hallam noted that the Boomers have been funded by its private owners for 8 seasons to the tune of $1.5m and the owners are unfortunately not in a position to continue underwriting the significant investment required.

"We have pursued many options over the past 18 months to continue in our current form in the WNBL to secure new investors and other sources of funding, including from Basketball Australia, State and Local Government and private investors", Hallam stated. “However unfortunately we have not been successful in securing future funding to support the ongoing operations of the Club. As we pursue equality in elite women’s sport, there is quite rightly an increasing expectation by our wonderful athletes and coaches in terms of remuneration and working conditions (enjoyed by their male equivalents) – however these significant rising costs cannot continue to be absorbed just by the private owners, without the support of the current league owner, Basketball Australia.”

Hallam stated that “sadly this outcome reflects the very real financial challenges which professional women’s sport faces, and in particular the WNBL, where the current funding structure of the League requires that Club operations are fully funded by Club owners.

While we all hoped it would not come to this, the 'Boomers family’ including our members, fans, sponsors, and partners who have packed our game days through the good and tough times should feel immensely proud of what we have collectively achieved, including:

7 consecutive WNBL Finals appearances since 2017
2 WNBL Grand Final appearances
WNBL Champions in 21-22
9 players who have represented the Australian Opals
67 players given opportunity to play professionally in the WNBL
Widely recognised as delivering the best game day experience in the WNBL
Creation of the Melbourne Boomers Academy
Deakin university pilot - ‘Deakin Live’ broadcasting of Boomers home games.
Creation of legacy community programs such as Mamma Ball and “WNBL in Gippsland”
Release of the ground-breaking documentary series “Sidelined-The Fight for Equality in Women’s Basketball”

Hallam continues “We would like to formally recognise and thank our naming rights sponsor Deakin University for enabling us to achieve so much over the last 10 years, and to our many other sponsors and partners who have enabled the Deakin Melbourne Boomers to make a significant contribution to professional women’s basketball.”

The Boomers will work closely with the new Geelong ownership group to transition the license leading into the 24-25 WNBL season, which will ensure there remains three WNBL clubs in Victoria.

In addition, the Deakin Melbourne Boomers legacy community programs such as Mamma Ball and the Melbourne Boomers Academy will continue.

Hallam emphasised that although it is a very sad outcome for the Deakin Melbourne Boomers after such a long and successful era, it is important that we continue to provide our female athletes with the opportunities to compete at the highest level in Australia. The transfer to Geelong will continue to provide a direct pathway for our up-and-coming Victorian athletes.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Aokuso --> OGM Ormanspor (Turkey) next season

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Footloose  
Last month

Well worded email from the Boomers. Interesting that Aokuso is leaving Townsville, wonder if it's partly from the strange benching she received in the 2nd half of the 2nd SF?

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BigD  
Last month

Aokuso is leaving because $$. The benching was because she was injured.

Half of the league is heading off to Europe next season, with talk that some others are seriously considering NZ, all because of $$.

There's a very real scenario that some NBL1 teams could be considered to have more talent than what some WNBL rosters may have with the amount of players leaving for Europe.

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Cosmo Spacely  
Last month

"Aokuso is leaving because $$. The benching was because she was injured"

She was not injured.

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Wnblfan  
Last month

Steph Reid going to Europe too!

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Grimace  
Last month

There is always a but of an exodus to Europe in the season after an Olympics. Hopefully the league will recover in time to have them swing back for the WC / Olympic cycle

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Footloose  
Last month

Code Sports have just tweeted that Flyers & coach Chambers have parted ways! I can't read it so don’t know the story. Surely her choice though? You can’t win the GF & get sacked can you??

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Nup, her decision.

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Footloose  
Last month

Must be off to Europe or the WNBA then, good on her! Who will be the replacement?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

The 56-year-old - fresh off leading the Flyers to a 2-1 grand final series win over Perth - has decided she needs a break after more than a decade coaching in the WNBL, and another looming Olympic campaign as an assistant with the Opals in Paris.

She might be up for the NZ job.

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Footloose  
Last month

I think I saw that Hurst has been appointed for NZ?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Dam that's was fast. Heard 3 Aus candidates.

https://nz.basketball/natalie-hurst-appointed-2degrees-tall-ferns-interim-head-coach/

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Footloose  
Last month

I was surprised that Carmino was on the Opals bench before Hurst tbh. Seems Opals have missed their chance on her, at least for now.

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Hurst has a terrible record as a HC.

The next opals coaching cohort should have Seebohm at the top with the rest leaving with sandy.
I said Veal as assistant but now I'm not so sure. A poor 3rd season and I doubt she remains at Canberra.

Maybe a vet like harrower, mcintyre with her exp or mills who has done the hard yards.

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Footloose  
Last month

Who's Mills?

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Weedy Slug  
Last month

Liz mills.

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Kneedeep  
Last month

The NBL1 is a broad and deep association-based league that truly represents the community. When players reach a high enough level, they're often scouted for the WNBA or European leagues.

Is there a way to transform the national finals of the NBL1 into a women's NBL, extending the competition over a longer series? Each state already has certain stacked teams, and I believe this trend will continue as players seek competitive environments. This transformation wouldn't require external ownership and could operate with community-level sponsorship structures. Given the depth of teams across so many communities, it would create a compelling entry into the national league finals, spanning weeks rather than just a weekend.

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Wombat  
Last month

Couple of pre free agency rumours

Little Heal and Jaz Shelley to Geelong

Tolo to Bendigo

Loads of fringe and lower bench players heading to the NZ League, short season and I believe they are paying all players at WNBL minimums. Interesting to see how WNBL teams fill their rosters.
NZ league will probably be at a NBL1 standard or just below.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this month

According to Matt Logue in The Australian, a Bryan Colangelo + Dorry Kordahi syndicate has entered the WNBL ownership chat.
It's nice to know there is some competition happening behind the scenes while we wait patiently.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this month

Harrower is the new Flyers coach

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Blues67  
Earlier this month

@wombat

Correct on Shelley, she's heading to Geelong

Heal heading to Turkey

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KET  
Earlier this month

I won't pretend to understand how it works, but where does the money go from whomever buys the WNBL? This doesn’t seem to be a capital raising as such, so I imagine it just goes to BA?

I’m not sure what is gained by there being a bidding war tbh.

Not to be disrespectful, but its hard for the NBL to be profitable and the NBL clubs aren’t by and large profitable, so the WNBL and the clubs, unless its stripped down badly, is never really going to be profitable.

That tells me it’s most valued and best suited as a loss-leader run by the NBL.

If run by the NBL, a lot of the robust structure is already in place and can be extended to the WNBL including the digital infrastructure. Take into account reduced costs of de-duplication and leverage existing relationships to form broader sponsorship agreements that expand more into the female demographic via the WNBL, it’s really the way to go to maximise the WNBL.

They could come to an operations agreement like with NBL1 I guess if all else fails.

If groups like SEG, Pelligra, Jayco, Kordahi, Denholm want to invest into the WNBL that would otherwise lose money without the NBL anyway, why don’t they put more into their existing investments in Perth, Bendigo, Adelaide, Southside, Sydney etc or other ailing WNBL clubs in the case of Kordahi?

That would be especially helpful if the NBL did take over, then there would be a lot more stability!

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Bluey  
Earlier this month

nothing the WNBL do makes sense. Free agency is expected to start on the 10th, am assuming that will get pushed back again.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

WNBL FREE AGENCY UPDATE

The WNBL Free Agency period was set to commence tomorrow - Monday, 10 June. As there is a club license transfer currently in progress, Free Agency is unable to open as planned.

It is anticipated the transfer will be complete in the coming days, and therefore the WNBL Free Agency Period open date and time has been revised to Friday 14 June, 11am (AEST), to enable this to occur.

Terms of the CBA for the upcoming season will be announced prior to this date.

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QuokkaWoylie  
Two weeks ago

4 days doesn't seem much of a push back, but at least we have news of confirmation it's still going ahead!

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

The delay is due to the Lynx licence being transferred.
Sounds like the new owners are 2 of the people involved in the Wildcats ownership bid.
Hope they've got deep pockets!

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

The WNBL is pleased to announce the transfer of the Perth Lynx WNBL License from Basketball Western Australia (BWA) to new holder Perth Lynx Basketball Pty Ltd.

Over the past four seasons, BWA has held the Perth Lynx License and has been the only State Sporting Association in Australia operating a Women's National Basketball League (WNBL) team. BWA has steered the Lynx through a journey marked by on-court success (three finals appearances in four seasons), increased membership, growing ticket sales, and enhanced sponsorship opportunities.

Understanding the importance of keeping a strong WNBL team in WA, BWA has transferred the Licence to new Licence holder, Perth Lynx Basketball Pty Ltd, which is owned by Western Australian family and strong basketball supporters, Jodi Millhahn and Christian Hauff.

Perth Lynx Basketball Pty Ltd will be provided management and operational support to operate the team by Sports Entertainment Network (SEN), providing the team with every opportunity for enhanced support and further growth. The Lynx name, colours and branding will all remain, and they’ll continue to play out of the Bendat Basketball Centre for the upcoming WNBL season.

Head of WNBL Christy Collier-Hill says this is great for the league and the Lynx.

"This is an exciting new chapter for the Perth Lynx, and basketball in WA. BWA have done a wonderful job of delivering the Lynx program over the past four years, and they therefore now move it on in a position that is primed for future growth and success."


https://wnbl.basketball/blog/news/a-new-era-for-the-perth-lynx/

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Bluey  
Two weeks ago

thanks for posting that luuuc, does impact the coaching staff at Lynx?

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

I doubt it. Petrik's previous contract extends into next season and I doubt they'd want to change anything there anyway. Sounds like they're retaining some front office staff as well.

I could see it maybe shaping the recruiting policy, although I hope it doesn't too much because I feel like the recent so-called moneyball approach isn't just delivering good value for money, but the emphasis on local players has also got more fans into the stands.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

New 1-year-only CBA for the league


The WNBL is pleased to announce the successful agreement and implementation of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), which will be valid for the 2024/25 season only*.

The new CBA, reached through dedicated collaboration between the WNBL, Clubs, Australian Basketball Players Association (ABPA) and players, represents a collective commitment from all parties for league growth, while balancing Club and League financial sustainability.

The agreement provides financial uplifts in a number of areas, as well as improved professional standards to enhance working conditions for athletes.

Notable financial uplifts in the CBA include:

Minimum Wage uplift by 15%, from $20k to $23k;
Development Player honorarium doubled, from 2k to 4k;
Increase in daily per diems; and
Increase in monthly private health insurance stipend.
The salary cap will be $532,331.11 (an uplift of 9.5%), and the salary floor will be $479,102.79 (an uplift of 6.2%). Both salary cap and floor will include superannuation for 24/25 - previous seasons it did not. To ensure accurate comparison, the increase percentage is based on previous season cap and floor plus superannuation.

The cap remains a 'soft' cap, with teams exceeding the limit liable for tiered luxury tax.

Increased and improved physiotherapy services provided for athletes around training aims to ensure all athletes are able to receive care and rehabilitation as needed. This will assist in improving athletes physical wellbeing, and optimising performance – which is also benefit for Clubs and fans.

WNBL thanks all involved parties for their efforts in reaching this important milestone and look forward to an exciting 2024/25 season.


https://wnbl.basketball/blog/news/wnbl-announces-new-cba-for-2024-25-season/

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Sebastian  
Two weeks ago

There is a reason it's only 1 year....

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Anon  
Two weeks ago

*The CBA is for one-year only due to the impending ownership change of the WNBL from BA to a new entity post 24/25 WNBL season.

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Luuuc  
Two weeks ago

Veal steps down at the Caps

"Ongoing medical issues following major knee surgery prior to last season, unfortunately impacts my ability to coach and I've made the difficult decision to stand down," said Veal. “Whilst disappointing, I realise the need to make health a priority and wish the Caps every success for season 2024/25.


Paul Goriss gets the gig.
Hide your videos everyone!!

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JD14  
Two weeks ago

I wonder if that is the real reason for Veal's departue? Anyone heard any rumuours?

Jade Melbourne to depart the caps. I haven't heard any teams that she is certainly ging to yet, but clearly most sought after player. She has been killing it in the WNBA - great to see.

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Luuuc  
Yesterday

Sounds like (per Matt Logue) the NBL bid is the successful one to "take over" the WNBL, and will be made official later this week.

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Weedy Slug  
Yesterday

Veal removed herself from the Canberra job because of injury but another terrible season would have probably ended her pro coaching career, the dust will settle, the pressure is now off and then she will return in the future with people forgetting she went 6-36. A similar third season avg, her record could have been 10W-55L.. would be very hard to get re-hired.

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Luuuc  
Yesterday

I wouldn't say that most people "forget" her W-L record. But I'd suggest that they evaluate it in the context of the playing talent available to her, compared to the talent available to most of her opponents, and calibrate their expectations accordingly.
If a player like Jade Melbourne had a specific Veal out clause in her contract then I think that reflects pretty positively on the impact she is having.

I'd actually suggest that when it comes to younger emerging players, a coach having too much focus on W-L record can be a negative thing for aussie basketball overall.
I don't want a league where more players like Puoch stay nailed to the bench all season.

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Weedy Slug  
Yesterday

WNBL should not be a development league where young teams are given a free pass.
It's the top tier and you are payed to win.
Both Veal and Hurst would be fired with those records if in the nbl.

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DMc  
Yesterday

That is a similar sentiment to what former Melbourne Boomers GM Justin Nelson (who was instrumental in setting up the NZ Tuaihi League) said in a podcast a while ago- that part of the reason the WNBL isn't working as a commercially viable sports entertainment product is because BA want it to be a 'development pathway' as well and that trying to be two things at once means it ends up falling short on both fronts.

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