Surprising then they went through the process involving Snyder and Herbert. Surely you know what you're getting with Caporn, so how has he managed to then trump other candidates deep into a selection process? My guess is either party went cold on the Snyder option due to financial reasons or it was just never going to work out. Maybe that pressure to pick an Australian also.

Personally, I don’t like this choice as I believe Vickerman is the best local coach we currently have, but I do understand why they have gone down this path.

He’s been there for a while as an assistant, but also seems like of those coaches that everyone seems to rate highly but without any major head coaching accomplishments?

Conservative choice compared to Snyder or Herbert but going with a local pleases lots of people.

The aim is for Snyder to still be involved as consultant and be on the ground for major tournaments the Olympics and WC

It had to be someone the NBA guys respected and would work with, given that the majority of the team will be from the NBA.

Oh no
Hardly any senior head coach experience
Never won anything
Very underwhelming
One of the plum jobs in world basketball.
We've fumbled this and turned it over.

A bit underwhelming for me. One year as head coach of a G league team isn't any where near enough experience as a head coach. I worry that this is the cheap option, but hope he does great things.

I think this is clearly a developmental c=decision. They know we arent winning anything for the next four year window. It makes sense to go with a younger Aussie Coach and put great minds around him like Snyder and Vickerman.

I personally would prefer an Australian head the team, so I like this move, although I agree it could be shaky to start. I think the next WC and Olympics we will most likely run with a younger inexperienced lineup, looking to prepare for a serious push to medals in 31 & 32 when we are likely peaking.

It certainly looks underwhelming but then again so did Roth and the first JJs team and we all saw how that played out. I'll just sit back and enjoy watching it play out. Good luck to him and Vickerman certainly will have defensive strategies.

I dont think its fair to say we arent winning anything in the next 4 year window and if that's the kind of mindset driving our decisions then that's un-Australian.

I think we are quite comfortably a top 6 team in the world, and look set to be better than last time in our next tournament. Who knows what leaps and bounds Giddey and Daniels will take, and with them we have other exciting prospects and guys coming into their peak/seniority with the team. Just because we can list countries that could have better line ups doesnt mean they will, or that their best guys will be available, or that we wont have a freak Ben Simmons appearance, or anything else happening.

Dont lose a game by turning up expecting to lose.

ME, I personally dont think the team has the scoring ability to challenge at a Major. We are severly lacking a self creating scorer. Until we find that person I dont think we are winning anything.

You can keep dreaming if you want to though...

Giddey and Daniels average more points in the NBA than Patty Mills ever did. Proctor can create his own shot. The team doesn't necessarily need a go-to scorer as such. other teams have had success without one.

Giddey and Daniels average more points in the NBA than Patty Mills ever did.

But the player who can score 30 points against the USA is not Giddey or Daniels, but Patty.

You need individuals who can score no doubt BUT the scoring can come in two ways.

1) The Goorj system which relies almost exclusively on individual talent breaking down the D

OD
2) A Lemanis like system with sets and counters along with high BB IQ breaking down the D.

Hopefully we end up with option 2 as it suits our style and it's the one area we have an advantage over some teams with higher talent.

We will only play the US at most once in any tournament. We'll play teams with a more FIBA style a lot more often.

ME - I don't agree on Proctor at all. I’ve watched a lot of Duke’s games this year and in my view he’s struggled to create his own shots, especially against athletic defenders. He’s not a good perimeter shooter either.

From The Age

Melbourne United coach Dean Vickerman will serve as associate head coach, taking charge when Caporn is unable to. Atlanta Hawks coach Quin Snyder, a leading candidate for the job, withdrew because of the time commitments required. But he is reportedly in talks to join the Boomers program in an advisory role.


Not surprising that he wouldn't be able to put in the time and attention that BA would have been asking for, especially if he’s also trying to hold down an NBA-related job as well

ME, the fact you are quoting NBA average points statistics tells me everything I need to know...

We will remain solid and close to the mark, but who is the guy in the last 2 minutes when nothing is working. The break in case of emergency type player. We simply don't have one. Every other top level international team has one or several.

1 - USA - Multiple
2 - Serbia - Bogdanovic/Jokic
3 - Germany - Schroeder/Wagner
4 - France - Wemby/Fournier (although the latter is getting on now).
5 - Spain - Aldama
6 - Canada - SGA/Murray
7 - Australia - Who?
8 - Argentina - Who?
9 - Latvia - Porzingis
10 - Lithuania - Sabonis

Who does Australia have that is the caliber of the above? Giddey and Daniels are not it. Argentina and maybe Spain are the two outliers along with Australia which do not have the top end talent of the other top 10 teams.

Yes we have depth and a great set of role players, but I don't think its enough to get the job done against the top 5 teams (replacing Spain with Canada).

Listening to Bogut talk on it made me more confident in this appointment. Looks like Caporn has been around and done it all, except head coaching of course. But the idea that hes good at in game decisions speaks to correcting an issue I've always had with Goorjian, where he would have a decent game plan but never adapt to the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abx6-1DEJCg&t=1333s

"The aim is for Snyder to still be involved as consultant and be on the ground for major tournaments the Olympics and WC'

So youve specifically heard "on the ground" as in literally part of the coaching staff?

Pleased that an Aussie is the chosen one.

1: Where will most of his work (on Boomers' behalf) be done?

2: Does that matter?

3: Will eligible, USA-based players have an advantage?

If the answers to the above 3 questions are 1: USA, 2: yes, 3: yes, can we expect a very NBA-centric Boomers, in style and personnel?

4: If that answer is also a yes, is that good?

None of that seems to bother the USA, though! They also pick their team, players and coaches, from the NBA!

Congratulations to Adam. Do well, like we all want you to!

I think 90 percent of the guys on the Boomers team will be in the NBA in 2027/8. I actually struggle to think of a player outside of the NBA who'd make that team.

Not sure he has the gravitas to command the position. Seems like an appointment to appease the NBA guys. Does have solid experiences, but feel like he's one experience away from being ready - having run his own team for an extended period. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that he gets us playing great Boomers basketball.

RobT, your questions are good ones, and have been asked repeatedly - what should our playing style be? Is it wise to fill the squad with NBA players and then try to adapt them to the FIBA game (which is very different), or use a mix of NBL and NBA players in our own FIBA style, or ???

We're never going to beat the US in FIBA tournaments if we play NBA-style ball, but that probably would only happen once anyway. It will make it difficult to beat FIBA-style teams if we play NBA-style ball, which will happen a lot more often.

Lemanis found that balance, Brown had more of an NBA-style approach, and Goorjian ... dunno at times.

The lack of head coaching experience does seem like a gamble. Even experienced head coaches usually need several years in a national program to get it going. He has experience assisting Lemanis and Goorjian, so it should be an easier transition for him.

Are we in a rebuilding phase now that we are heading into a post-Mills era?

I think the rebuilding phase has been the last two tournaments. Our main guys already will have runs on the board at this level and Id expect half the team back next time with the inclusion of some of Condon, Travers, Proctor, Ducas, Cluff, Dash Daniels or others on the scene. But this is Giddey and Daniel's team moving forwward.

Another uninspired selection. Australia will continue to slide, South Sudan to keep improving.

Good interview with Caporn on ABC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN7iIzunM5E

Seems articulate and with a well-considered, rounded approach. Good signs

"So youve specifically heard "on the ground" as in literally part of the coaching staff?"

I don't think even BA have an idea on how it would work but if it helps, I specifically read Matt Logues article:

“It can also be revealed Atlanta Hawks NBA coach Quin Snyder is in talks to join the Boomers’ coaching ranks as a consultant in preparation and on the ground for major tournaments like the World Cup and Olympics.”

Makes it sound like he might be a bit distant during the NBA season but could be on site during the tournaments, maybe as something as a quasi-head coach or mentor?

Wouldn't mind that. The more talent behind the scenes, the better

Ket offered, "It can also be revealed Atlanta Hawks NBA coach Quin Snyder is in talks to join the Boomers' coaching ranks as a consultant in preparation and on the ground for major tournaments like the World Cup and Olympics."

And Me makes this point with, "Makes it sound like he might be a bit distant during the NBA season but could be on site during the tournaments, maybe as something as a quasi-head coach or mentor?

Extensive, world-wide search for the "best" candidate and then we need to bolster the "best" with someone "better"(surely not someone less credentialed).

I can understand the aim of "all the help you can get is good" but doesn't that just undermine the newly appointed HC?

Sorry to go on and on but also, just noticed, Bogut already putting his 2 bobs worth in for a go at the top job (in the near future. Suggesting that Adam C only in for the short term, right from the start??).

Talk about "Hope for the best, plan for the worst". Well, the Boomers seem to be getting ready for anything/everything.

[I honestly try to not be so negative but it's all starting to look foolishly suss' to me!]

"Smith sees Snyder playing an integral role in mentoring Caporn and the coaching staff while assisting in the management of Australia's rising talent.

"I see Quin being critical in Adam’s professional development and giving a voice of leadership and mentorship to the coaching staff," Smith said.

“His experience in managing the best athletes in the world - many of them being Aussies he’s had in his cohort over his career – is incredibly valuable for this group.”"


https://www.codesports.com.au/basketball/revealed-the-threetier-coaching-structure-tipped-to-return-the-boomers-to-the-podium/news-story/fe3bea574f69686da0647a8074f424be



Sounds to me like Synder is basically going to be the brains behind the operation and Caporn is just the guy applying the plan. Given Snyder's lack of full on availability this might be the best case scenario.

Dog's breakfast.

Is Snyder the coach? Is Caporn the coach? Is Vickerman the coach?

What a joke, honestly I'm surprised Vickerman signed up to this. I know we're rebuilding now but this situation won't last long. Even though Bogut's a clown just give the job to him he wants and has a big enough ego to expect he would succeed at it.

Thanks Me. Did not read more from codesports.com article(as I avoid free/cheap trial offers 'cos I end up with too many subs', long term) but what you posted seems spot on. Much more honesty in that than what I have otherwise read.

Which takes me back to my Q4: from the above post. "4: ... is that Good?"

IMO (my own answer) should have waited until the HC showed that he needed/wanted that sort of support.
As it stands now, it's like if Sydney Kings appointed Brian Goorjian as HC, and, without any obvious input from BG himself, he and the (public?) is told that Bogut will be your head Assis Coach. Brian would have loved that.

[PS. My opinion/opposition have NOTHING TO DO with Quin Snyder. My opinion/opposition stands whoever the HC and the Part-time Assist HC are.]

What a mess, which is par for the course when BA are involved.

Did not read more from codesports.com article(as I avoid free/cheap trial offers 'cos I end up with too many subs', long term)