Who knew Kadina was the home of womens basketball in SA

WHAT IS DEAN KINSMAN THINKING???

Most noticeable absence would be Kate Gaze.

I thought Farley was from Sturt. Might live in Kadina but...

jarry in form - tippett will be the next big thing.

is kate gaze still injured?

Kate Gaze is just coming back for injury, but would be ok for worlds. Her experience at this level is invaluable, as this team is a young and inexperienced team. She will be greatly missed. Disappointing to see.

If she has been injured, how can anybody be sure she will be fully fit by tournament time.

From all accounts the rest of the team would rather her not there anyway. Thinks she is better than she is, and is too negative to her team mates.

Just some random thoughts from somebody who saw most of these girls play either in Townsville or at Adelaide.

Does Dean have no faith in the bigs he had or are they just sick and tired of his coaching? Only one genuine big in this group and she could be injured at any time given her history (though to be fair she has remained healthy for a while now). Whether she can stay on the court is another question altogether.

Next big off the rank is a bottom-bottom-bottom age player who while being incredibly athletic, is also pretty light. Then its on to the endless line of reasonably-sized, reasonably-skilled players in 5'11 - 6'1" bracket. Nobody there to light things up from what I've seen.

Can't argue with the selections too much but would question why players such as Ebzery, Rowe and Oliver have walked away from the program, others such as Joy, Gaze and Kleeman have been overlooked or marginalised. Know nothing about the world standard but I'm not optimistic about the chances of this group. Sincerely hope I'm wrong and they have great tournament.

3 players who are eligible for the 2011 Worlds - is that promising for 2011 or ominous for 2009?

Ankles,

So you would not know that they just beat the French team on their last tour and that they are the current European champs.

Would be easy to suggest that those players you mention above all come from a program where they didn't get pushed or challenged to improve, now that they have, they have pulled the pin.

Bad coaching by Dean, or soft approach by previous coaches and programs?

Who is the fourth?

Grote 35 - Not having a go at anyone - just posing some questions. BUT.... if these players (the leavers, left out, overlooked) were up to standard to be brought into the program (most were), does that mean Dean is only able to develop players who respond to his style (as all coaches have particular styles which work better with some players than others).

In another sphere, Charlie Walsh achieved remarkable results with his 'crash or crash through' approach but one wonders how many world-class cyclists crashed along the way while another approach might have fostered their talent.

Is this a reasonable question to ask in response to your suggestion that the leavers weren't up to Dean's demands?

Often players are selected on potential, and it is 18 months of effort and the ability to improve through a change in behaviour that matters, maybe they weren't able to consistantly change their behaviour enough.

Some of those player you mentioned above where involved in an incident at U18 Nationals. Hardly the behaviour anybody would want to see for somebody representing Australia. And some of them had multiple issues, not just on court.

That doesn't mean that some of those players selected are angels, but that if you aren't selected, having issues makes it hard for you to complain.

Secondly, I doubt that many players, if any, deal with the unique issues the AIS holds. Constant coaching makes it hard for ALL kids. Especially when those players have been the big fish all their lives.

I'm not suggesting that Dean is any way a my "way or the highway" type. From what i've heard and seen of him, he has been fairly middle in situations. (could have gone harder in some situations even)

Just that coming out of association type play into Australian team situations, players often don't deal well if they struggle. They can get away with it at lower levels because the coach needs them so badly to win they leave it go. But get to this level, they must be able to give the coach what they want. If they don't, and somebody else does. Who do you choose? I would shoose the kid who does what I ask!

As much as people see NG as too tough, it seems SA kids never struggle with the coaching at the AIS, and often it could be said that it helps them make the National junior teams instead. Some states under previous ITC HC have had numerous issues.

in "your opinion" anonomous.

Really; you have no idea about kate gaze; or the team. Just let the girls be for gods sake.

Good luck to them, i hope they do well. Just wish people would stop scruitinising and just wish them luck!!

Were Kate Gaze and Ebzery eligible for this yrs worlds?

Gaze not selected, Ebzery choose not to be part of it about a year ago. Mainly due to unhappy with coacihng situation so wanted to look at other options, e.g. playing WNBL for another team and focus on that.

I knew ebzery left AIS, but if she was still eligible you would figure she would want to go to worlds??

Gaze must be pretty shattered losing her spot

241477 its not the kids that need scrutinizing as they didn't select themseleves! Its the coaching, the favours owed, the favourites there etc... hopefully Phil Brown will bring some sense.

Of course Gaze is shattered and people should pay attention to what happened with Ebzery she wasn't part of this group that people don't rate yet she has pretty much walked away from the sport...Why?