Anonymous
Years ago

Thon Maker and Ed Smith Interview

Recently Thon Maker and his guardian Ed Smith appeared on a podcast talking about the decision to play in Canada how they considered coming back to Australia.Ed Smith talks about what is preventing Thon from representing Australia including having to pay to arrange flights back to Australia.

Thon appears at the 30 minute mark and Ed smith at the 37 minute mark.
http://www.heinnews.com/?powerpress_pinw=5376-taking-the-charge

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smoke  
Years ago

Really interesting at about the 51 minute point. Ed Smith on some of the decision factors on whether to play for Canada or Australia going forward.

"Are you going to have the access to go back and forth to meet all the obligations of Australia to meet all the obligations of Australia?

Last year, we wanted to go back from america to play in the under 17's, really wanted to but we would have to fund our own trips back and forth because the funding is not there
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And we would have to make a certain amount of practises to be on that team.

We want to play on the under 19's team.
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They already played in oceania.
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You don't want to jump on that team and they use you for one tournament and then you're locked in.

You want to make sure that you have the ability to make the practies and meet the obligations for that country.

If you can't do those things, then you have to start considering other things.

We haven't exhausted all the possibilities of meeting our obligations for Australia.
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Unfortunately, basketball in Australia is a poorly resourced sport."

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Ed Smith interview was really good. Prior to this the only things I have ever read about Ed Smith was that he is only in it for the money once the kid goes Pro, but listening to him talk he is very knowledgeable about the industry and came across very credible.

Still unsure if Thon will play for Australia as it sounds like they are worried if he plays one tournament it will "lock him" to a country. I think they genuinely want to play for Australia but want to see how the program from U17 - U19 - Boomers etc will be funded and how they can be accommodated.

I also liked his idea saying that Australia should partner with 1 school in the USA and run all the kids in that school so they can improve together against higher level competition in the USA. The most evident thing is playing against quality competition.

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Mystro  
Years ago

omg you have to pay for your own travel?

he should check out NZ's funding and then stfu...

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Isaac  
Years ago

You don't want to jump on that team and they use you for one tournament and then you're locked in.
"they use you". Or you get to represent the country that took you in as a refugee (and they pay you for playing as a Boomer), rather than the one which is cheaper to travel to? Seems like some pretty awkward phrasing.

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GWB  
Years ago

Basketball Australia need to wake up and pay his travel expenses. This is a future all star

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Isaac  
Years ago

GWB, and then with every other player that you rate? Where does it end?

Why not take the guys who really want to play?

If BA is lacking cash, then putting money towards travel fees for select players would have to come from elsewhere in the program - tournaments, preparation, etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ed with his hand out out ready to slip into someone's pocket. Been the same for 15 years

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dude is set to earn mega-millions in the NBA. He can afford to fund travel to play for the country that took him in as a refugee. Sounds highly mercenary in the Maker/Smith camp.

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Alpha  
Years ago

I wouldn't go that far and blame the kid for the actions of his guardian. IMO he is just a pawn and every time there is a news outside of Thon's court performance, it is related to something Smith has done or said.

Smith appears very arrogant and ignorant of the situation. He acknowledges the fact that BA has no money but will do nothing to change that. BA funding is clearly linked to performance so if potential superstars don't want to commit to the national team due to lack of funds, it says something about them.

Personally I don't think it would put much strain on anyway depleted budget to bring Maker, Simmons and Bolden (at least) back to a camp, fly them to China and join them to the team in June during final preparations for the Worlds. I'd say this would be around $10K-15K considering that they would replace 3 other players, so the difference is actually in the airfares from the States and local flights.

IMO this has nothing to do with funding, this seems more like either requests coming from Smith are unrealistic or Maker (or Smith rather) has no real interest in joining the program. I just think Smith is concerned Thon's stock would go down if he underperformed at the biggest stage. So fair enough, make a decision and stop fueling speculations and blaming the organisation. At least we can then focus on commenting on Thon's on-court performance (more Thon, less Smith) and support those who decide to represent our country.

So to resonate Isaac:

"Why not take the guys who really want to play?"

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Dazz  
Years ago

Older article on Smith & Thon:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/refugees-escaping-war-are-aiming-for-the-stars-20130810-2rovx.html

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Libertine  
Years ago

pretty standard move in the media by an agent (let's call it what it is) trying to get his client a better deal. imo BA should hold firm. if they start treating TM different to the other kids then it will cause major issues.

I wouldn't read anything into it as in any event, TM won't be eligible for a Canadian passport for a number of years anyway. by then he should be a Boomers lock.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

doesnt want thon's age to be expose when he plays against solid opposition. soon people will realise that thon won't be able to play at the highest level

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just move on. He's in the same situation as Irving - only way he ever plays for Australia is if he's not good enough to play for someone else. I'd rather watch a team full of Dellys and Pattys and Broekhoffs and Exums who are absolutely desperate to play for the Boomers.

It's a real shame that Maker plays second fiddle in his own story. Reminds me of Tyreke Evans. But it would be really interesting to know whether Thon has any thoughts or feelings at all that differ from Smith's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1 points on Thon Maker and Ed Smith,

He will never play for the Boomers because Smith is looking for his pay day as he has done so far with anything that Maker is involved in. Smith is very aware BA doesnt pay players despite them knowing that 4-7 players of the next generation of Boomers will either have NBA experience or be drafted.

Smith has been on a mission over the past 10 years to get PAID via kids from the sudanese community whom he promised their parents of getting their son to NBA but only if is there full time guardian making every decision.

It is a well know fact in the US and only those scrubulous basketball programs accept his demands which are also programs the NCAA are closely watching.

Don't be surprised to here in the next 12-24 months Thon Maker taken up a european contract to by pass college for the NBA. His recent move to Canada has put him under even more scrutiny from the NCAA because of their strict elgibilty process before entering college and at current, Maker is well behind the required grades required by the NCAA!

This is a tragic story about a talented young man guided by a man of nothin but GREED!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As usual for Hoops, some absolutely spot on predictions in here

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Smith also got his hooks into Thon's younger brother Mater, and his cousin Makur is one of the latest victims.

Authorities need to step in and stop this parasite.

Agents are bad enough, but this creep actually gets parents to sign over custody of their kids.
Surely this can't be completely legal? Getting refugees who barely understand English to sign over their children.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's a good gig if you can get it, he’d be on a good wicket dollar wise you would think, it also is that no one actually really knows how old they are.

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UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

An approximate age range can be determined through a combination of wrist X-ray, dental test and DNA testing.

Problem is that humans grow at different ages. The wrist test can be good to estimate potential height, but people have growth spurts at different ages. Dental tests vary by ages of appearance of wisdom teeth, and DNA isn't accurate enough for a range of a few years. Even carbon dating once determined that an early coke bottle was thousands of years old.

From New Scientist:
"It’s superficially an easy question to ask, but answering it is fraught with difficulties," says Al Aynsley-Green, an emeritus professor of child health at UCL, who led the study.

We’re really very lucky that the integrity of junior sport (including US College) is so strongly protected by the most scrupulous ethics of all involved and the strong regulatory environment in the US.


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Timmah  
Earlier this year

He already played for the boomers.... less than a year ago....

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

... after he made the NBA.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes. My comment was sarcasm, geniuses.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

"We're really very lucky that the integrity of junior sport (including US College) is so strongly protected by the most scrupulous ethics of all involved and the strong regulatory environment in the US."

Yeah, so no surprise that none of his victims get the College Education he promises their parents.

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

What a whacky thread.

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UseTaHoop  
Earlier this year

D2.0

How many bball scholarship College grads get an education? The 80s and 90s were really bad. Local Junior players with half a brain could spot them.

Doesn't matter. Got game. Seemed to be the ethos then.

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Steven  
Earlier this year

I estimate Thon Maker to be 22.

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