Dazz not jealous at all just posing questions and putting things in perspective. You can't compare Say Townsvilles fortunes against Perths, it just doesn't add up same against Adelaide, just honouring the facts and not idolising a team for doing so well they have been gifted so much by default. I respect wins but even more those that can achieve without those gifts. Same for everything in life. Some do it tougher but when they get there it is so much sweeter.. As far as NZ goes, overall their pop is smaller to chose from than Australia but they only have 1 team. They are hugly regionalised as well. They have managed to support their indigenous as well and develop them like the AFL does. They don't have the financial support of other teams and I have far more respect for Vickerman as a coach han a team that tanks on the premise of resting or a coach that whinges constantly and a fan base that pleads for sympathy about rough tactics. As a fan for my team I see their weaknesses and would never defend a comment that is factual, in fact I may agree with an opposing fan. It never does anyine any good to deny the truth. It seems many on this site can not have a healthy debate and say yep, we are lucky to have the circumstances for our team to do so well and credit to say Townsville for giving us some ripper competition and making us better or can't believe they can achieve on so little support. Just a bit of humility would change attitudes towards some teams and fans, thats all.