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Luuuc
Last year

#40279

Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wildcats paying $1.48, Breakers seem good value at $2.67

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TimberBall
Last year
17:04 13 Nov 16

Reply #607644

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Don't like the Cats chances to be honest (hope I'm wrong).

Is David Stockton playing?


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DaHuzyBru
Last year
17:08 13 Nov 16

Reply #607649

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Stockton is not playing, he did not travel


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Luuuc
Last year
17:08 13 Nov 16

Reply #607650

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I don't like our chances either.
Happy to part with my cash if we can somehow conjure up a win today.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:24 13 Nov 16

Reply #607654

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Breakers should get this cats are struggling and don't have anyone to control the tempo. Webster Penney get going cats won't be able to keep up. Money on breakers


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Hendo8888
Last year
17:39 13 Nov 16

Reply #607656

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

There's pretty much 0 point guards in this game.
Penney starting at the point for NZ, Wroe starting at the point for Perth.


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Thunder Jam
Last year
17:42 13 Nov 16

Reply #607657

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Breakers no hope, Perth by 6+.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:47 13 Nov 16

Reply #607658

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

No chance, I'll take those odds. Webster looks ever so slightly more involved and they have nothing to lose. Already played there this season already. Perths out of Martin is too big a hurdle for them.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:32 13 Nov 16

Reply #607669

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Damo on the sidelines during warm ups in his polo and slacks and massive knee brace dribbling a ball non stop with a big smile on his face

Classic damo


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Anonymous
Last year
18:35 13 Nov 16

Reply #607670

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Lachie has a great voice very easily heard


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Mike
Last year
18:42 13 Nov 16

Reply #607672

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

McKay got his big boy pants on today


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Mike
Last year
18:43 13 Nov 16

Reply #607673

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Prather's mid range game is so good now


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Anonymous
Last year
18:44 13 Nov 16

Reply #607674

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

The young debutant Bragg seeing early minutes


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Anonymous
Last year
18:45 13 Nov 16

Reply #607675

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Can someone tell them to turn down the volume on the sound system


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JR
Last year
18:47 13 Nov 16

Reply #607676

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

"Matt knight is the best back to the basket big man in the league."
I don't agree


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Mike
Last year
18:48 13 Nov 16

Reply #607677

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Can DKD get some decent minutes today plz


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Mike
Last year
18:49 13 Nov 16

Reply #607678

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Love Prather's rig

/def homo


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JR
Last year
18:51 13 Nov 16

Reply #607679

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

You would know


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Mike
Last year
18:53 13 Nov 16

Reply #607680

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

haha yeah


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Mike
Last year
18:55 13 Nov 16

Reply #607681

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Greg Hire the GOAT


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Anonymous
Last year
19:02 13 Nov 16

Reply #607684

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Rig?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:03 13 Nov 16

Reply #607685

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Anyone looking forward to the mannequin challenge


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Anonymous
Last year
19:03 13 Nov 16

Reply #607686

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wildcats don't stand a chance, Damo is a god


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Mike
Last year
19:03 13 Nov 16

Reply #607687

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Liking Brandt's aggressiveness under the ring


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Mike
Last year
19:04 13 Nov 16

Reply #607688

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Rig = physique


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Mike
Last year
19:05 13 Nov 16

Reply #607689

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Breakers were super value, had them in my multi but not on their own :/


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Mike
Last year
19:09 13 Nov 16

Reply #607690

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

This could get ugly for the Cats


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Mike
Last year
19:15 13 Nov 16

Reply #607691

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Lol Gleeson being a flog as usual


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JR
Last year
19:15 13 Nov 16

Reply #607692

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wildcats can't play defense


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Mike
Last year
19:18 13 Nov 16

Reply #607693

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

No Damo no us


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Anonymous
Last year
19:23 13 Nov 16

Reply #607695

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Lachie lifting the crowd at the right time


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Mike
Last year
19:25 13 Nov 16

Reply #607696

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Good old Lachie

Brought a tear to my eye more than once with one of his heartfelt speeches


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Anonymous
Last year
19:28 13 Nov 16

Reply #607698

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

During mannequin challenge some guy yells out bring back the Harlem shake hehe


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AngusH
Last year
19:48 13 Nov 16

Reply #607701

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Webster definitely looking more "Webster-like" tonight, but man, taking some real bad shots.


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Mike
Last year
19:54 13 Nov 16

Reply #607702

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Angus with a huge and 1


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MACDUB
Last year
19:55 13 Nov 16

Reply #607703

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Shame on Perth for boo-ing Loe; cheap move from Kernich-Drew really..not necessary. Can't just stand there whilst a guy is running back and fall over.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:59 13 Nov 16

Reply #607704

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

^^^
lol


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Mike
Last year
20:04 13 Nov 16

Reply #607705

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

MVPrather


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Anonymous
Last year
20:07 13 Nov 16

Reply #607706

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Macdub are you serious. Drew is entitled to any spot on the floor that is not already occupied. Loe just cant run at and through a stationary player. What a stupid opinion


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Anonymous
Last year
20:18 13 Nov 16

Reply #607709

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Matt knight beasting


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Mike
Last year
20:18 13 Nov 16

Reply #607710

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

MATTHEW KNIGHT COUNTRIES


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Mike
Last year
20:23 13 Nov 16

Reply #607711

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

lol @ the lone Breakers fan in the croud


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AngusH
Last year
20:23 13 Nov 16

Reply #607712

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

JJ might get sacked again after tonight's game.


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Mike
Last year
20:25 13 Nov 16

Reply #607713

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Nah breh JJ is awesome


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AngusH
Last year
20:33 13 Nov 16

Reply #607715

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Ref wasn't even looking at the rest of the play when calling that out of bounds on NZ.


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AngusH
Last year
20:34 13 Nov 16

Reply #607716

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Can't get a better look than that for Kirk....


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Mike
Last year
20:36 13 Nov 16

Reply #607717

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Just retire Penney


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AngusH
Last year
20:38 13 Nov 16

Reply #607718

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Yikes. Nice pass JJ.


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Voxshall
Last year
20:39 13 Nov 16

Reply #607719

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

LOL JJ


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AngusH
Last year
20:39 13 Nov 16

Reply #607720

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Great shot by Webster, but it just feels like Perth are going to score here given how this game has gone.


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Zodiac
Last year
20:39 13 Nov 16

Reply #607721

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

JJ's going to be de-activated into the Swan River after that pass.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:40 13 Nov 16

Reply #607722

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Time to deactivate JJ again. Bonehead play of the day.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:40 13 Nov 16

Reply #607723

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Time to deactivate JJ again. Bonehead play of the day.


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AngusH
Last year
20:40 13 Nov 16

Reply #607724

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

LOL @ the Breakers fan!


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Mike
Last year
20:40 13 Nov 16

Reply #607725

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Well done JJ you fucking moron


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Zodiac
Last year
20:41 13 Nov 16

Reply #607726

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

That poor Breakers fan he's going to get pummelled the second he steps outside the arena.


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Voxshall
Last year
20:42 13 Nov 16

Reply #607727

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Love the lone Breakers fan getting sprayed by the Cats fan and smiling away.


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Andrew
Last year
20:43 13 Nov 16

Reply #607728

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

So disappointed. Wildcats let that one slip.


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Ricky
Last year
20:43 13 Nov 16

Reply #607729

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Disappointing... god.


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Mike
Last year
20:43 13 Nov 16

Reply #607730

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

'That poor Breakers fan he's going to get pummelled the second he steps outside the arena.'

I'd back the Maori country to win that fight


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Anonymous
Last year
20:43 13 Nov 16

Reply #607731

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Mike go away...your drunk. Idiot


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JR
Last year
20:44 13 Nov 16

Reply #607732

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wildcats are missing Damo's defense and leadership. Wroe gets exploited too much.


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Voxshall
Last year
20:44 13 Nov 16

Reply #607733

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

That's a lucky break ers


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Rat10
Last year
20:47 13 Nov 16

Reply #607734

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Another great contest at Perth Arena. Wildcats were due to lose a close one! Good on that lone Breakers fan - I've been there many times before in Perth!!

Shame the ref that called the block and flop warning on Prather wasn't there last week to call the much more obvious block and flop on Knight...


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Mike
Last year
20:49 13 Nov 16

Reply #607735

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

'Mike go away...your drunk. Idiot'

No he's not


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Ricky
Last year
21:05 13 Nov 16

Reply #607736

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

After much inner angst and soul searching for the last half hour.. I've realised that it's just a ga.. No wait, yep still angry about what took place at Perth Arena not long ago..


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Tom
Last year
21:21 13 Nov 16

Reply #607739

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wow would have been a heartbreaker if we had lost. Had so many chances to ice it but could not hit anything.
Thankfully WEBSTER took it to the hoop on that last play. Nice contribution from Mitchell but oh lordy....... did Mattie Knight eat him up on the block.
Vukona managed to add some backbone down the stretch otherwise Knight would have single handedly destroyed us.
We got a break when Prather fouled out,
If we can pinch another W on this trip we will still be in the mix.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:25 13 Nov 16

Reply #607740

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

WTF did Hire get soooo many minutes tonight? DKD was scoring at will and no plays were run through him.
Also why wasnt McKay played much in the 2nd half? Injury? Wroe is not cut up for this type of pressure and is not a NBL starting PG. Prather was really forcing it tonight. Oh and stop it with the Alley Oop plays. Too many fails tonight.


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Dazz
Last year
21:37 13 Nov 16

Reply #607741

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

McKay wasn't playing much because he's not that good. Simples. Against big physical opposition we're better off with Wagstaff and Knight out there.

There's only so many times you can "get out of gaol free." Perth had that game won so many times, and just made stupid decisions.
End of the day, we need more than two scoring options, especially when one fouls out.
And Wroe is not improving. He's not that good at point, he's no threat offensively, and he just seems to make the wrong decision at crucial times.


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Anon
Last year
21:40 13 Nov 16

Reply #607742

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Would love to see a quarter where Gleeson didn't blame the refs every time his poor excuse for a game plan doesn't end as he had planned. Cats fans more pain on the way given their five game away stretch during hopman cup - no more home cooking close wins


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Dazz
Last year
21:56 13 Nov 16

Reply #607745

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I HATE losing to the Breakers


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Train
Last year
21:57 13 Nov 16

Reply #607746

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I love a good close game and all but my nerves are getting a battering this year. So many thrillers. Perth should of won that game, they really need Kenny back ASAP. Wonder if the benching of McKay is a sign he might be out the door in favour of a PG.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:01 13 Nov 16

Reply #607748

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Can we please stop suggesting imports get sacked after every game. That's what poor franchises do


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Green 53
Last year
22:10 13 Nov 16

Reply #607751

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Can redhage just retire!! Useless to us and why have him on the court at the end instead of dexter?


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cats 4 life
Last year
22:15 13 Nov 16

Reply #607753

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Nz, to good, lost one we should have won. not smart enough. no point guard, understand Nz didn't have one, you got two class player's to cover.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:16 13 Nov 16

Reply #607754

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

NZ are really tough to guard when they have Webster Penney and abercrombie on at the same time.


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Mike
Last year
22:35 13 Nov 16

Reply #607756

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Would Knight make it into the 10 best Wildcats of all time?

I think he would go close


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LV
Last year
22:42 13 Nov 16

Reply #607757

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Perth FINALLY lost a close one.


http://giphy.com/gifs/l2Jhy7uPLObi1jCPm

(Every non Perth fan right now).


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Duncan
Last year
22:48 13 Nov 16

Reply #607758

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Knight is a beast. Props to Vukona for slowing him down at the end, it's ok to not like him but it's not ok to not respect Mika, what a legend of the game.

But look at the bigs in the comp this year, it's pretty slim pickings. Is Knight the pick of the bunch? Right now I say yes. I thought he belonged in the NBL 5 last year ahead of Kickert and think he'll be robbed again if he's not this year.


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Luuuc
Last year
23:28 13 Nov 16

Reply #607763

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Top game. Still not quite sure how the hell we managed to claw ourselves into a winning position, especially once Prather fouled out. Vintage Lachy certainly helped though. If that was a road game, forget it.

Matty Knight ... what a champ that man is. I could do with a little less diving at random loose balls by a guy with busted shoulders and multiple head knocks but he was just in total compete mode today and so nearly dragged us over the line. SMH @ that ending :/


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Anonymous
Last year
00:25 14 Nov 16

Reply #607768

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Great game, great result. So happy to see Perth struggle to put a team away.


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Tom
Last year
11:06 14 Nov 16

Reply #607823

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I will add one thing. Prather was unlucky to pick up his 4th. That was a clear elbow by Penney that went unseen. The ref would have had to be in the blind corner though to see it. When I first saw it I thought that was a flop. The replay though clearly showed the elbow lead by Penney.


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Chairman Of The Bored
Last year
11:26 14 Nov 16

Reply #607828

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

How did Webster not get called for an Offensive foul on his last drive? He ran in to so many arms and legs and bodies they must've been able to find a charge in there somewhere.


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Ricky
Last year
15:15 14 Nov 16

Reply #607884

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Shoulda put McKay in there.. he woulda smacked the shit away while it was bouncing..


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Dazz
Last year
15:46 14 Nov 16

Reply #607905

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Why do our guys persist with attempting allyoop plays?
Since the start of the season, they have attempted several, and at most 1 or 2 have come off. Last night they tried it about 3 or 4 times, and didn't even get close.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:56 14 Nov 16

Reply #607908

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

"Shame on Perth for boo-ing Loe; cheap move from Kernich-Drew really..not necessary. Can't just stand there whilst a guy is running back and fall over."

I wouldn't say 'shame on perth', yes he didn't do anything extremely terrible, but I guess he probably shouldn't have pushed past him. Anyway its all just part of the home crowd advantage getting stuck into a player and putting him off like that, and the little nudge gave them an excuse to do so. Loe went on to have a pretty average few minutes right after that so the crowd definitely got in his head and it worked.

The Perth crowd and Lachie are definitely one of Perths biggest weapons. IMO easily worth a few extra points each game, sometimes more. Lachie is very good at reading the play and momentum of the game and picking the right time to get the crowd involved. Very intimidating for the opposition and Perth thrive off the energy the crowd gives them.


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LV
Last year
15:58 14 Nov 16

Reply #607909

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

At this point, even hardcore optimists amongst the Perth faithful must be getting worried that the long standing streak of playoff appearances is coming to an end.


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Nonanon
Last year
16:02 14 Nov 16

Reply #607911

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Not really. This team knows how to win, despite what Jaron Johnson would have you think. Once Kenny returns, things will be fine.


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LV
Last year
16:05 14 Nov 16

Reply #607912

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

You think?

They've only played 3 away games to date. They're 5-3, and the wins over NZ, Melbourne, and Adelaide all went down to the last play of the game, and they beat Cairns in OT.

So of 5 super close games, they've won 4 and lost 1. 8 games, and only one win that you would call convincing- at homeagainst Illawarra, a team who have been awful this season- and have copped beatings almost every time they've played someone with more than half their team in uniform.


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LV
Last year
16:07 14 Nov 16

Reply #607913

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

And you mention Kenny, don't forget NZ were missing a point guard yesterday themselves. David Stockton is no slouch. There are no easy wins in this comp, and without Damian Martin Perth will find it difficult.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:14 14 Nov 16

Reply #607915

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

That's what Perth does though, grind away, play hard and find a way to win close games; came within 10sec of doing that again last night. I don't think a game being close or not matters too much (yes you want to win game's easily), but at the end of the day a win is a win and the ladder/record will show a W.

The team hasn't performed to their best and struggled with injuries, yet still sit 2nd on the ladder. Kenny coming back will be huge for them, I'm sure most teams would struggle without their point guards and playing 2 DP's each week. Not very confident about winning the championship atm, but I'm not too worried about missing the playoffs yet.


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Nonanon
Last year
16:14 14 Nov 16

Reply #607916

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Two of their three losses, (and the second half of the Sixers win) they were without an NBL standard point guard. I'll at least give them a chance to get Kenny back before writing them off.

No doubt missing Martin hurts but missing a true point guard is the real issue here.


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LV
Last year
16:21 14 Nov 16

Reply #607917

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Oh and another thing- they havent even played Sydney yet. So of their remaining 20 games, 12 of them will be away from Perth Arena and 4 of them will be against Sydney. And 3 vs Melbourne United, probably by that stage a Melbourne United with Casper Ware settled in, and a healthy Goulding.


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Ricky
Last year
16:27 14 Nov 16

Reply #607918

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Thursday can't come quick enough for JJ..

Better score 40 and break Lischs ankles.


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Dazz
Last year
16:30 14 Nov 16

Reply #607919

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Pretty sure the average Perth fan is still a lot happier than your average MU fan!


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Luuuc
Last year
16:43 14 Nov 16

Reply #607920

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I'm definitely not confident of making the 4 at this point, but I'm pretty happy with the way the team has played so far under the circumstances.
Martin's injury could well be the difference in making or missing the playoffs. It's an unfortunate injury to a key player, but that's just sport sometimes.

Serious test coming up now with Sydney twice this round. If we can steal one of them I'd be stoked, but also surprised.


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Nonanon
Last year
16:57 14 Nov 16

Reply #607921

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

I started following the Cats in year one of their streak. I guess I'm the biggest bandwagon supporter out there.


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koberulz
Last year
17:03 14 Nov 16

Reply #607924

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Kenny's not going to play 40 minutes when he does come back. We need in import point guard, or we're going to continue to exist in this bizarre universe where the Cubs are World Series Champions, the Bulldogs are AFL Premiers, and Donald Trump is US President.

The plays we ran at the end of regulation and the end of OT were awful. We had an isolation for the worst ball-handler in NBL history and a contested half-court shot.

Johnson shouldn't have even been on the floor, much less playing the point, but the alternatives were Bragg or Hussey.


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Train
Last year
17:11 14 Nov 16

Reply #607925

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Worried about Sydney.....the team that just dropped 2 out of 3 games? Oh wait it is Sydney then daylight isn't it?

The threat of not making the 4 is real but I think that threat is real for any team at the moment. There's not too much separating 1st and 7th right now.

Hopefully we get Kenny back for this Thursday because not having an NBL standard PG is seriously hurting Cats right now.


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LV
Last year
17:24 14 Nov 16

Reply #607928

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Well the ladder currently reads..

Sydney 7-3
Perth 5-3
NZ 5-4
Brisbane 5-4

And by the end of next weekend it could well be

Sydney 9-3
??
Perth 5-5

In which case you could actually say it's Sydney and daylight.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves- Corban Wroe might do a good enough job on Kevin Lisch to prevent that from eventuating.


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Nonanon
Last year
17:27 14 Nov 16

Reply #607929

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Enjoying an afternoon troll, LV?


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Ricky
Last year
17:27 14 Nov 16

Reply #607930

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

According to sources, Earvin Magic Johnson may be signed soon under the allocated Senior Citizen rule. He was spotted at the game yesterday.


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LV
Last year
17:28 14 Nov 16

Reply #607931

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

See if Sydney defeat Perth twice and NZ split with Illawarra next weekend then it could be

Perth 9-3
NZ 6-5

I'd say a 2.5 win advantage, whilst still in the second month of the season would count as daylight at this stage. But again, let's see what happens. It is true that Sydney have struggled through their last 4 games. If they keep playing like they have been, then Perth could well beat them twice!


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Ricky
Last year
17:29 14 Nov 16

Reply #607932

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

He nailed the Mannequin Challenge by the way.


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koberulz
Last year
17:29 14 Nov 16

Reply #607933

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Thus far, Sydney and Perth are well clear of the pack. Melbourne and Adelaide are clear in the other direction.

Perth are going to drop off significantly without Martin, even after Kenny comes back.


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LV
Last year
17:35 14 Nov 16

Reply #607935

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Thus far Sydney is ahead of the pack.

I would put Cairns second, to date.

Cairns have had 3 home games and 6 away. Yet stand 4-5, so you could put that as +1. Perth are 5-3 and have had 5 home, 3 away so I call that evens.

On this metric, Melbourne waaaay down on the bottom on their lonesome. But they have upside, with Ware playing this week and Goulding likely to return.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:42 14 Nov 16

Reply #607937

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

If kenny is your answer you are already in trouble.


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koberulz
Last year
17:45 14 Nov 16

Reply #607940

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

That metric is meaningless.

As of yesterday morning, Cairns were 4-4, average margin -0.75. Exactly the same as Brisbane. Illawarra 4-5, but average margin 0.4 actually puts them slightly ahead of both. Cairns will drop and Brisbane will climb after yesterday.

Sydney are way out in front, 7-3 with 5.2. Perth 5-2 with 1.9.

NZ are stronger than their record suggests; 4-4 but an average margin of 3.0. They're actually about half way between Perth/Sydney and the pack down below.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:46 14 Nov 16

Reply #607941

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Haha, my thoughts exactly! You know a team is in real deep shit when there's an eager countdown to the return of Jarrod Kenny!


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koberulz
Last year
17:51 14 Nov 16

Reply #607943

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

After plugging in yesterday's games:
Sydney 19-9
Perth 16-12
NZ 16-12
Brisbane 15-13

Illawarra 13-15
Cairns 12-16
Melbourne 10-18
Adelaide 9-19


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Nonanon
Last year
17:58 14 Nov 16

Reply #607946

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

"You know a team is in real deep shit when there's an eager countdown to the return of Jarrod Kenny!"

Its not saying Kenny is a superstar, although I think he is a handy backup PG, probably one of the better ones in the league.

Its saying that the team currently has NO point guard. Its the most important position in the game and there was many examples in the past game and a half where not having one really showed. Having one back is going to be an improvement, no question.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:00 14 Nov 16

Reply #607948

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

If your system allows 110 wins and 114 losses in a season then your system is badly broken


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Anonymous
Last year
18:02 14 Nov 16

Reply #607949

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Kenny is a solid backup I do agree but there is still a huge hole left by Martin that Kenny can only partly fill even once he is back to 100%


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
18:03 14 Nov 16

Reply #607951

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Good luck to you Koberulz, but those kinds of predictions are just futile at this point of the season


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koberulz
Last year
18:10 14 Nov 16

Reply #607954

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

If your system allows 110 wins and 114 losses in a season then your system is badly broken
Cairns varies between 12 and 13 wins depending on how many decimal places you have (12, 12.5, 12.50, 12.499). It's not going to be perfect.


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koberulz
Last year
18:14 14 Nov 16

Reply #607955

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Good luck to you Koberulz, but those kinds of predictions are just futile at this point of the season
Sure. It's not really a prediction, it's just extrapolating past results out over a full season. Perth will drop significantly, given their lack of a backcourt.

It was mostly just a rebuttal of LV's claim that Cairns are somehow second thus far.


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Train
Last year
18:17 14 Nov 16

Reply #607957

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Kenny is far from a Superstar or Perth's savior but he sure did a pretty dam good job last year when Martin was out. The team with Kenny running the point is certainly a lot better than the team with a development player running the point.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:18 14 Nov 16

Reply #607958

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

No he isn't a superstar but Kenny is one of the most underrated players imo, he's very handy when he plays with confidence. Had been playing well before his injury and actually started a few games. For a team that currently has no PG his return will be massive.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:19 14 Nov 16

Reply #607959

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

NOOneanon said "I started following the Cats in year one of their streak. I guess I'm the biggest bandwagon supporter out there."
Yes and unfortunately you have found hoops. :(


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Ricky
Last year
18:24 14 Nov 16

Reply #607960

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

#wroehastogo


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Dazz
Last year
19:29 14 Nov 16

Reply #607973

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Haha, my thoughts exactly! You know a team is in real deep shit when there's an eager countdown to the return of Jarrod Kenny!
Do anonytrolls even begin to realise how stupid they often appear?

We currently have nobody who can run the point.
Kenny is a PG, and a proven performer at both International and NBL level.
It's not rocket-science.

If you actually watched the game last night, you would have seen how many times the Cats stuffed things up, either by having JJ at the point, or having Wroe run the clock down then not have a clue what to do with the ball.
Kenny, assuming he's fit, will make a phenomenal difference.
Enough to carry Wroe as backup, with so many others underperforming? Probably not.
We can only hope he can do enough to keep things manageable until either Martin returns, or some of the other guys get their shit together.


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Dazz
Last year
19:40 14 Nov 16

Reply #607977

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

A Kober, I mostly agree with what you say about an Import PG. There's clearly a lot more choice out there, than trying to find a quality Aussie not otherwise engaged. Ideally we'd get somebody who could also score, which would take a bit of pressure off.

Even with Kenny back, our backcourt rotation is Kenny, JJ, DKD, and Wroe. FMD

Problem is, who do we cut?
Logic says we cut the SG who can't play as a guard, but I just don't think we can go down that path again.
So that leaves McKay.
I gotta say I was unimpressed again yesterday.
I'd need to do a lot more analysis to confirm, but I suspect that part of his problem is that he spent the pre-season practising with Martin & Kenny. As I remarked early on, he looks good when he's getting fed.


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koberulz
Last year
19:55 14 Nov 16

Reply #607984

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Dazz, how does any of what you said conflict with Anon's claims that the team is currently 'in deep shit'? It seems to back that point up rather well, in fact.

So that leaves McKay.
I gotta say I was unimpressed again yesterday.
Trevor Gleeson's refusal to put him on the court probably helps there.

Gleeson's stated reason was apparently that we needed Wagstaff's three-point shooting, despite McKay being a better three-point shooter than Wagstaff is.


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Nonanon
Last year
19:58 14 Nov 16

Reply #607986

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

#959, either respond to something I have said telling me why you don't agree, or shut the fuck up. Saying "unfortunately you found hoops" and "everything you say is wrong" ruins the forum for everyone. You're a dickhead.


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Dazz
Last year
20:21 14 Nov 16

Reply #607992

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Trevor Gleeson's refusal to put him on the court probably helps there.

Gleeson's stated reason was apparently that we needed Wagstaff's three-point shooting, despite McKay being a better three-point shooter than Wagstaff is.
We got caught with our pants down, then tripped over them.
In front, 20 secs to play, s/c under g/c, with possession and we decide the smart play is to waste half the time, then turn it over. What I blame Trevor for is having JJ on the court at that time, AND not calling T/O when it went out of bounds. Instead, everyone runs around flapping "WTF do we do now?" and we hold up NZ, then let them score with a second left??? THEN Trev decides to mastermind that last play. For some-reason we have our shortest and least-experienced player in-bounding, and he fires it to the guy who's been having a shocking night.

But simply put, McKay was off because he'd been fumbling all night long. Whether he should have be subbed in with 1 sec to go is probably moot.

And that still doesn't answer my question: JJ or McKay???


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LV
Last year
21:41 14 Nov 16

Reply #608000

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Cairns have missed Trice, or Jawai for the majority of their games. They have played 3 at home. Have played Sydney 3 times.

Melbourne 10-18 LOL.


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Train
Last year
21:41 14 Nov 16

Reply #608001

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

What I don't get about those last 20 secs is that Perth had 0 fouls in OT. Why didn't they give up a foul before Webster got anywhere near the paint.


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Train
Last year
21:43 14 Nov 16

Reply #608002

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

"Melbourne 10-18 LOL."

Melbourne 3-7 ..... LOL



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Dazz
Last year
22:02 14 Nov 16

Reply #608005

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

What I don't get about those last 20 secs is that Perth had 0 fouls in OT. Why didn't they give up a foul before Webster got anywhere near the paint.
Good question, which leads to the next question, why didn't Trev call T/O after the OOB?
Problem is we had the game won, we stuffed it up, and nobody had the presence of mind to stop and think.
Poor on Trev's part, but yes also poor on the part of experienced players. Of the 3 or 4 options, they went for the worst.


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Nonanon
Last year
22:26 14 Nov 16

Reply #608013

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

When JJ turned it over? Wouldn't that have given NZ the ball in their front court? That isn't smart.


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koberulz
Last year
22:41 14 Nov 16

Reply #608014

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Time to draw up a play, too.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:53 14 Nov 16

Reply #608015

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Seriously Dazz?

"Do anonytrolls even begin to realise how stupid they often appear?"

Do you?


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LV
Last year
23:04 14 Nov 16

Reply #608017

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

"Melbourne 3-7 LOL"

Gosh how original. I wish I had your wit.

The Melbourne SEABL All Stars might be 3-7 but it will be a different ballgame once Melbourne United is playing again. I have a feeling Ware will suit DD like Holt before him.


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koberulz
Last year
23:17 14 Nov 16

Reply #608019

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Calling a TO before the last NZ possession also means not having one if they do score.


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Dazz
Last year
01:44 15 Nov 16

Reply #608026

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

As opposed to the brilliant play he drafted with one second on the clock???

In all honesty, I reckon I could have given them a better one.
I mean its a bit hard to improve on "throw, catch, shoot," but I wouldn't have had Wroe inbounding, and I'd have tried to hit somebody who was actually shooting well.

Though in retrospect, perhaps I'm a bit harsh on Trev for not anticipating that the players would completely bollocks up that last 20 seconds.


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koberulz
Last year
01:58 15 Nov 16

Reply #608027

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

But could you give them a better play starting from the backcourt baseline instead of the frontcourt throw-in line, without a timeout to draw it up?


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koberulz
Last year
02:03 15 Nov 16

Reply #608028

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Wroe was a completely bizarre choice to inbound. Having the center guard the inbound, in order to provide maximum pressure, is a frequently-used tactic. Entirely foreseeable.

Johnson obviously wasn't the place the inbound was supposed to go, but I have no idea what the primary shot options were. One backscreen isn't going to cut it.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:33 16 Nov 16

Reply #608182

re: Wildcats v Breakers 13/11

Nonanon the ball only advances in the last 2 mins of the 4th or the last 2 mins of any overtime period if the team entitled to the ball calls a time out in the backcourt.

So if Perth called a timeout the ball would have been inbound from where JJ threw it out


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