Anonymous
Last year

New Melbourne Team

I'm hearing the NBL are within 2 weeks of giving an answer on a new NBL team for Melbourne next season. Anyone got more info?

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Qean  
Last year

Ask knox

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hi Knox, can I ask you?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Knox, Knox who's there.

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Anonymous  
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Anonymous  
Last year

Hopefully it's not called the boomers.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Could be called the Magpies

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Anonymous  
Last year

If they add Collingwood Asa team, it'll show kestleman has no idea.

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Anonymous  
Last year

This is BS

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Luuuc  
Last year

It would seem odd to me, since the whole point of blowing up the Tigers brand and changing to United was to move away from being a team with a limited supporter base and a majority of fans for whom the old brand would always be a rival.
I wonder how many Victorian basketball fans aren't footy fans.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Luuuc, Collingwood don't have a "limited" supporter base. One of the larger supporter bases in the AFL.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Kestleman has plenty of idea mate, he saved a league that was going to become a glorified SEABL if that. Now it's flying again. List some of the "idea" you have?

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Anonymous  
Last year

The only team guaranteed large support is one in the south east of Melbourne.
S.e Melbourne magic south dragons etc.

People will associate Collingwood with football which will turn people away.

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Luuuc  
Last year

I know they have a large (possibly the largest) AFL supporter base in Victoria, but it still puts them into a "faction" of sorts, where you're basically going to put off fans of 8 of the 9 Melbourne AFL teams from becoming a fan of the basketball team.
I don't know how big a factor it would be. Just putting it out there. Maybe the footy club sees potential for adding current non-AFL basketball fans to their membership.

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Anonymous  
Last year

There will simply not be a second melbourne team. End of

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Anonymous  
Last year

There will be multiple AFL teams with NBL teams in the next three years. A few in Melb too.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Luuuc, all they need is a "faction" of their 100,000 or so members to come each week and they'll kill it.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Most successful Euro teams do it this way also

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KET  
Last year

When you have two teams it's fine to be factional for one; when there’s only one team it’s stupid to be factional

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ferdterguson  
Last year

The Richwood Pigers?

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Melbourne Boy  
Last year

LK getting United more support, by bringing in Collingwood you automatically get 80% of the sporting public in Melb supporting the non-magpie team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I'm pretty sure that theory won't work.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Shhhhh BOGUT......

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Anonymous  
Last year

A team with current & ex NBA players as minority owners would be great for league....BOGUT, Ingles, Mills, Simmons

Perhaps Exum as starting PG

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Anonymous  
Last year

Big mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collingwood_Warriors_S.C.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_SC

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Anonymous  
Last year

The timing was off, that's all. The A-League wasn’t kicking

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah right. A-League is struggling.

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Yinka Dare  
Last year

I think a team representing the south east suburbs of Melb would go very well. Not sure if I'd use the names magic or dragons though. Dragons did seem to have a good fan base though.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Perfect time for kestleman to take over the wnbl and align the teams with there Nbl counterparts. Same setup as a league/w league.
Later on adding a youth/dp league thats sit under the nbl/wnbl so that all these players sitting on the bench can prove themselves in real games.

Bendigo scrapped until Bendigo men's team comes with expansion.
Dandenong gets absorbed into s.e Melbourne team. Some games at Dandenong, some at SBC.

Men's and women's
United
S.E Melbourne
Sydney
Illawarra
Perth
Adelaide
Brisbane
Cairns/Townsville (split into two in the long term)
Auckland

Expansion
Bendigo
Hobart
Perth 2
Wellington
Newcastle
Canberra
Townsville/Cairns

16 team comp.

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Yinka Dare  
Last year

Why even bother playing at Dandenong or sbc? I don't think either are big enough to sustain an nbl team in Melb. Maybe Margaret court at the very least

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Anonymous  
Last year

No money in women's sport.

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Anonymous  
Last year

its definitely not knox

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Anonymous  
Last year

Knox cant afford a seabl team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Have you guys not read about the sbc expansion?

250 mill revamp with 8000+ seat arena.
5000+ more seats than the current show court...

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Big Ads  
Last year

Isn't the SBC likely to become the next Waverley Park/VFL Park?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Never drag down the NBL by adding the WNBL. No way. That is a fast way to lose cash.

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Anonymous  
Last year

If a new Melbourne team plays at MSAC OR if its affiliated with Collingwood in any way, it'll be proof that Kestelman and his family have no idea.

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Anono  
Last year

If Collingwood were awarded a team surely it would make sense for them to play out of Margaret Court Arena. It's across the road from Collingwoods Headquarters and training facilities, is in Melbournes Sporting precinct so is accessible to everybody.

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Haz  
Last year

Why wouldnt they just play at Hisense?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Their will be an AFL team 'swooping' in

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Anono  
Last year

I imagine that as a new entrant they're unlikely to attract 8,000-10,000 to their games straight up. Margaret Court Arena would be a better option if you're getting 6,000ish

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Anonymous  
Last year

Prefer to see expansion in NZ.

I grew up diehard SE Melb Magic, tentatively got behind Victoria Titans, but lost interest in the NBL until the United rebranding due to my deep hatred for the Tigers and any other team that popped up disappeared as quickly as they came. A second Melbourne team makes no sense given the "United" ethos and I struggle to see the fan base exists to back another team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

You would easily get 5000-10000 a game in the S.E.

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Anono  
Last year

5-6000, sure. Don't see a basis for more than that straight up, especially not "easily", in their first season

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Btown  
Last year

Expansion should be on the back burner. League is present in the major money markets and needs invest in winning the public back to make it profitable.

It's been proved time and time again in this league that entering new teams is not a solution, tired of seeing teams fold. Develop the popularity of the league and enter new teams when the public demand one.

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Anonymous  
Last year

SBC would need to have a serious parking upgrade if they want to more than double the capacity of the stadium. And it stinks like a tip out there!!

Melbourne team would have to be SE based. I reckon the only AFL team that would work would be Hawthorn. Maybe they have plans to put in a basketball stadium in their big Dingley relocation project...

Whichever AFL teams end up having NBL teams, I would recommend naming them differently. Would require some creativity. Hawthorn and Collingwood exist as basketball clubs already. One is quite successful and the other is growing rapidly.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Maybe someone can copy the herald sun article on the state basketball centres proposed 250 million dollar upgrade posted last month.

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Curtley  
Last year

16 team comp would be better w two divisions.

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Haz  
Last year

BTown, expansion is exactly what the league needs right now in my opinion. Theres many reasons for past failed attempts, with bad timing (eg bringing new teams when the league was shit) and too many teams at various stages being among them (13-14 teams is probably too many even during the so called golden years)

Right now the league is looking healthy again and with the league being an 8 team competition for quite a long time now, its time to start expanding or risk becoming stale and boring, which its in danger of doing if no new teams come in. 8 teams is a bit low for a professional league.

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AKA  
Last year

Collingwood is getting a team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

It's not Collingwood

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Anonymous  
Last year

Tasmania and S.E team coming soon.

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Over it  
Last year

MELBOURNE THUNDER???

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D2.0  
Last year

It absolutely makes sense, and the NBL would be nuts to not be looking at all options.
The league is barely viable, and a couple of teams are a year-to-year proposition. ONly takes a couple of those to stagger, and the league becomes a joke.

The biggest audience for BBL generally is still Melbourne, the alltime attendance record still belongs to a Melbourne Derby final, and you have the stadiums to cash in on them.
Bottomline is that it is allround the cheapest expansion option available.

The idea of an NBL franchise makes some sense for many Melbourne AFL teams. (Although ironically perhaps less so for Collingwood.)
They already have the gyms, training facilities, management, membership, and sponsorship staff in place (many of whom have extreme peaks in their work-year.)
They are mostly locked in a grim struggle for new members and sponsors in a saturated ultra-competitive market. And the market they are all chasing is youth without existing affiliations. Considering they are all legacy clubs ostensibly based in the city, its not even as though they can rely on geographical location.

Imagine if you could successfully launch a 2nd team in Melbourne, and grow that supporter base to its potential. Converting those people to your AFL cause would be a salivating prospect for some of the struggling clubs.

Also need to appreciate that by and large NBL players can be asked to work a lot harder in community events, and here you have the opportunity to build your brand year-round.

Now yes, from the NBL perspective, I think that say re-birthing the Saints as an AFL offshoot would be limiting, but perhaps there's a happy medium somewhere.

Lets also not forget what I will call the "Freo Fenomenon."
I cheered the Eagles to victory in 92 & 94 sitting next to guys who will now swear to my face that they "didn't follow AFL" until Freo joined. Excluding those permanently ensconced in Cafes, The City of Fremantle has a population of about 28. (There's a far larger population in East Fremantle, but they mostly hate those in the south and support the Eagles.) Yet despite this Fremantle is one of the most financially successful teams in the AFL, with a membership that most Melbourne clubs would murder for.
Point is, that for whatever reason, it may be possible to pull together substantial support for a 2nd Melbourne team.

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

It's Geelong sponsored by Geelong Cats of the AFL

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Bear  
Last year

Already been in the media, no Geelong team possible without at least a 5,000 seat stadium, so while that's a nice dream, it will remain a dream until they start building something.

South Dragons, just call them Melbourne Dragons if need be and be done with it I reckon.....

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