Luuuc
Last year

Suspensions for Teys & Kernich-Drew

Brendan Teys (Adelaide) - Unduly Rough Play graded as Intentional, Body Contact and High Impact. Penalty – 2 games with no possibility of early plea.

Dexter Kernich-Drew (Perth) – Unduly Rough Play graded as Intentional, Body Contact and High Impact. Penalty – 2 games with no possibility of early plea.


Game Review Panel Charges - Perth vs Adelaide

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Luuuc  
Last year

Lucas Walker (Perth) and Shannon Shorter (Adelaide) have been charged with Bench Clearing which carries a penalty of a $500 fine which can be reduced to a $375 fine with an early guilty plea.

Shannon Shorter, Nelson Larkins, Mitch Creek, Anthony Drmic, Majok Deng (Adelaide), Dexter Kernich-Drew, Jarrod Kenny and Clint Steindl (Perth) have all been charged with engaging in melee / brawl which carries a penalty of a $500 fine which can be reduced to a $375 fine with an early guilty plea.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Did Teys not engage in the melee?

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Udog  
Last year

I think he was under it

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Anonymous  
Last year

Walker throwing Nelson? Nothing?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Nelson barging into Walker? Nothing?

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Udog  
Last year

Yeah. Walker got a sore ankle

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Anonymous  
Last year

And Nelson got what he deserved. All balanced out in the end.

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Udog  
Last year

Hopefully it spurs the 36ers on through the season now they've been riled up.

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Anonymous  
Last year

While Teys' foul was a complete bitch move, I don’t see how what he did to Cummings was the same as what DKD did to him.

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Udog  
Last year

That's what I was thinking

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think what Teys did to DKD happened on the play before which wasn't shown.

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Anonymous  
Last year

This game alone will almost take care of the Christmas party for NBL HQ

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And both are two times worse than Conger hitting Newley in the head

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Hogwash  
Last year

Both players aren't that important to their teams.

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Anonymous  
Last year

The referee that called the usf on steindl should be suspended.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Teys is Adelaide's captain

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Anonymous  
Last year

Terrible, terrible call the USF. The NBL wonder why the refs get criticised all the time. That ref needs to be dropped and never referee NBL for at least this season.

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Except it was the right call as per the rules this season. Perth fans as uneducated as ever

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J  
Last year

chaz What is the explicit rule then? There is no way he was trying to foul or trying to disguise the foul, he was defending the basket almost inside the keyway.

Even if as you say the call is correct (i am not so sure) surely this is not how it was meant to be interpreted and applied.

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If there is no defender between the ball and the basket you can not touch the offensive player from the side or behind.

I don't like it but that’s the rule

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Snooch  
Last year

There's no way that's an usf. He was in a defensive position. That's not the rule. It was a poor call.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Is it true Adelaide use the refs as character witnesses for their players to come to these decisions? Poor form is true.

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You have to be in front of the ball to have defensive position, Steindl hit Childress from the side.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Where was Steindl when Childress got the ball? Between the ball and the basket?

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That's irrelevant

It’s not that difficult to get

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Udog  
Last year

Just give up

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Anonymous  
Last year

Of course it's relevant.

By the rule you posted above "if there is no defender between the ball and the basket.. ." Well if Steindl is that defender between the ball and the basket, how can he commit an USF under that rule?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Shut the fuck up Udog. Your whole contribution today has been "lol gleeson gonna cry" but now you're telling two people having a discussion about the rules to give up. You're a twat.

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Udog  
Last year

The new rules are terrible and they've made a complete mess of them this year. This is my reason for saying give up. Thabks for your kind words also.

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J  
Last year

Could you not make a case 45 degrees is infront off?

It's madness and if that is how the nbl intends to call a usf then they are making a mockery of themselves and the sport.

I understand the desire to stop intentional fouls and the breakaway dunk, the "i was genuinely going for a Hail Mary steal" when i was the last defender in line stuff.

But to deem that play where he appeared to be playing genuine defence with hands out trying to stay between his player and the basket is insane!

If that is how you adjudicate the rule then the defender may as well get their moneys worth, and chuck a walker or a creek from friday nights game.

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Slam Drunk  
Last year

Nothing beats Childress in Perth a few season back

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LV  
Last year

I still cannot believe Childress only got a game for using his elbow and forearm in an attempt to remove Wagstaff's entire neck and head.

And Teys gets 2 games for a dirty foul while DKD gets same for a bit of push and shove.

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Anonymous  
Last year

NBL refs need to go to Europe (or make them watch Euroleague) to learn how to call games with the new rules. They are completely misapplying them but they only watch NBA on TV so have no idea.

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koberulz  
Last year

The Steindl call had nothing to do with the new rules.

I don't think that rule needs to exist anymore with the new rule in place, but it's been there for a long time.

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Jack Toft  
Last year

I think that's probably the best outcome

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FM  
Last year

Perth got off lightly with the USF on Steinem and cancel the basket.

The alternative was foul Steindl, basket counts and 1 shot plus Coach Tech Gleeson 1 & side.

Me Lyons saved Perth 1 free throw. You just know Gleeson would have lost his shot had Lyons counted the basket, therefore if the foul stopped a certain basket, then USF is the only call.

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Anonymous  
Last year

With mere seconds left on the clock, the whole incident in Perth would not have taken place if Teys didn't cheap shot DKD. So he deserves the charge. As Captain of an NBL club he should be able to hold back his little bitch tendencies.

Lucas Walker should have been DQ foul for his reaction to Larkins. Larkins 'hit' on Walker is an old school box out. So that double foul was wrong.

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Camel 31  
Last year

I think sixers are appealing teys suspension.
larkins banged into walker much like petrie vukuna do most of the time...

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Anonymous  
Last year

" the whole incident in Perth would not have taken place if Teys didn't cheap shot DKD."

Teys hit Cummings, thats what started it. It was dirty but wasn't overly vicious. He got an USF on the spot and thats all it deserved.

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Anonymous  
Last year

An unsportsmanlike foul is a player contact foul which, in the judgement of an official is:

Contact by the defensive player from behind or laterally on an opponent in an attempt to stop the fast break and there is no defensive player between the offensive player and the opponent's basket.

The refs ignored the second part of the rule. Wrong decision.

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Pete  
Last year

Teys copped an USF. It was deserved for the hard challenge. Should not be suspended.

DKD's blindside and attempted punch after deserves a suspension.

NBL were always going to hand out the same penalty to an Adl player as whatever DKD got. It's bullshit, but was always going to happen.

Larkins boxing out a big man is hardly worthy of a foul, let alone an USF. Walker dropping him by the head is at least an USF.

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snooch  
Last year

Interesting tweet from NBL media manager in response to an Advertiser comment piece about the league's double standards in its promotion.

Nick Johnston
‏@nick_nbl
The media is happy to play the incidents ad nauseam to drive traffic yet seemingly has none of the responsibility you want to lecture us about. What would you like us to do? Erase history?

https://twitter.com/reecehomfray/status/959718068426481664

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Anonymous  
Last year

He completely missed the point of the criticism!

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Udog  
Last year

Points are hard to get with your head up your bum

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Teys hit Cummings, thats what started it. It was dirty but wasn't overly vicious. He got an USF on the spot and thats all it deserved."

Did you not watch the play before where Teys came from the side and hip and shouldered DKD? That is where a lot of it started. If the umpire had of teched them both when they were arguing around him instead of letting it go then it wouldn't have gotten to where it got to.

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Isaac  
Last year

From the half-bakery: If you can't use for promotion something you penalise, can you include an and-1 in a highlights video?

I'd be interested to know if the NBA or AFL use biffo highlights to promote upcoming games? The NBA seem especially sensitive to it, going as far as to try and remove even the slightest taunts from the game.

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Zodiac  
Last year

Nice work from Boti:

At this point, all players charged should immediately secure paperwork for ownership of their own image rights, then charge the NBL $500 (or $375 for an early response) for any melee vision the league uses to promote its playoffs or other Perth-Adelaide matches over the next 40 years.


http://www.botinagy.com/blog/the-verdicts-are-in-/

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Ricey  
Last year

Cambage would've got it down to $500 fines. Why didn’t the players use her as legal representation. Bugger

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Zodiac

Interesting idea and would be fun to see it tried.

But I think the players waive their image rights for in-game footage just by playing in the league.

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Zodiac  
Last year

I think that's the case too but I suspect Boti had his tongue in his cheek. The players get fined for being bad boys yet no doubt the NBL will use that footage to sell the competition for all it's worth.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Teys copped an USF. It was deserved for the hard challenge. Should not be suspended.


It was a hip and shoulder, not a basketball play at all. Similar to striking, has no place in the game.

Larkins boxing out a big man is hardly worthy of a foul, let alone an USF. Walker dropping him by the head is at least an USF.


Larkins dropped his shoulder and took a couple of steps into Walker. Looked like it would have hit around the solar plexus. IMO, Walker's response was worse, but you can't call that a regular box out.

From the half-bakery: If you can't use for promotion something you penalise, can you include an and-1 in a highlights video?


I think the difference is that most 'and 1' plays result from fouls occurring from legitimate defence. The infractions and conflict being discussed here are not part of the game.

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koberulz  
Last year

The suggestion that this sort of thing should be memory-holed is absurd.

The NBL is unfortunately in a position where it's its only major broadcaster is itself. People say the NBA or AFL wouldn't promote something like this, but ESPN and Fox Footy absolutely would. NBL Media has to be given a level of independence from the operation of the actual league.

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Snooch  
Last year

Give it a rest. NBL should never be using these sorts of incidents in its promotion. The NBL's GM of media and communications is condoning the use of these sort of incidents in its promotional material. Pretty sure he's an NBL employee - and as such isn't independent of the league.

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Btown  
Last year

Lol at the nbl tweet. Not a bright fellow. Of course they don't have the same responsibility, they don’t represent the leagues as a whole.

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