Mike
Last year

Mornington Big V's Downward Spiral Continues

Rumors from within the club are getting stronger that this will be the last season of Big V at Mornington given how uncompetitive the teams are particularly the women's and with the thrashings they are receiving it would not come as any surprise.
Also I would like to know who the mastermind was responsible for replacing last seasons successful YLW coach with the current one what a winner that's proving to be.

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thatguyontheend  
Last year

There is a fair amount Mornington Big V bashing on here

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Anonymous  
Last year

Disgruntled coaching staff from last year trying to get people to care.
Let it go.

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gelder  
Last year

This is what happens when you have delusional parents running a club for there kids benefit first, club second. Ask a club up bayside area!!

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Frank  
Last year

Old news now Mike - time to move on.

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Ben  
Last year

Wouldnt think anyone would be disgruntled i would think they'd be laughing their arses off

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why keep posting on here then.
As Frank said, "Old News"

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Ben  
Last year

Why keep reading it then

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Anonymous  
Last year

Good for a laugh

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Anonymous  
Last year

Reminiscent of how centrals junior programme is being run at moment, no basketball people, just some parents looking out for own kids.

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Anon  
Last year

The results thus far really must be discouraging for the club and in turn the program as a whole. It doesn't appear that there is going to be too much joy for the remainder of the season. Support from within the club will undoubtedly decline as people want success, at the very least see good competitive ball. No one wants to watch a team getting belted by 20-30+ points each week. The spirit from within the team must also be dropping, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few players walk away. In so far as next year, the program is fundamentally stuffed, guaranteed that the women's coach leaves as will the women's YL coach as there is just no light at the end of the tunnel and the frustration week in week out is not sustainable. I for one won't be going to another game, it is too "sad" to watch.

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Anonymous  
Last year

How has their YL men gone so far this year?

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Jan  
Last year

Righto. Clearly this is NOT old news as the Mornington Club is an absolute laughing stock through the whole basketball fraternity. Open your eyes and look at the PHENOMINAL coaches they lost, especially YLWM. Not only did all those wonder girls move to other clubs (lucky them) but the dregs were left to play women's and get an ABSOLUTE flogging each week. Not old news, it's factual week on week. As for the Operations Manager and the little minions below her, HAPPY DAYS. bunch of ammatures. Embarrassed to have said we were part of MDBA.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Not happy Jan!!!
Get a grip

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Anonymous  
Last year

People are entitled to their opinions whether we agree or dis agree and it appears that this forum is possibly one of the few places where people can have an opinion and put it out there.

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Daniel  
Last year

AGM time at last what happened to the 28 days notice required ?
Hopefully the club will get a Pesident that shows interest in the club and a committee that is more concerned about the kids than the profit margin or bottom line

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Anonymous  
Last year

Gee Jan bit harsh but you've bloody nailed it

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Sam  
Last year

Wow. That's an interesting comment about the AGM, will give consumer affairs a call on Monday morning.

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A plus  
Last year

Well said Jan - agree 100%.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I think id be just as concerned with the Steelers and Frankston. Not great times for the Mornington Penisula.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Isn't Sutherland turning things around at Western Port?

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Keith  
Last year

Westernport is going along very well,new 4 crt stadium underway Steelers looking rosy

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Anonymous  
Last year

Would it have happened if the original stadium hadn't burnt to the ground?

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Anonymous  
Last year

But the main thing for any of these smaller clubs is they are providing and opportunity for kids to stay off the streets. There no one at Breakers Steeers etc etc going to be making money from bball. So stop trolling you flogs and Be happy the Peninsula offers our youth these chances.

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Daniel  
Last year

What does Mornington offer?

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Anonymous  
Last year

A chance for kids in the area to play basketball.
What a dumb question.

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Daniel  
Last year

Anonymous you obviously haven't got a kid that is playing or was playing at mornington

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Jack  
Last year

Kids off the street???....last time I looked Mornington was a long long way from the Bronx. Reality is that Mornington is not the club of choice for anyone on the Peninsula. At the minute Southern Pen is flying, looking at quality rather than quantity. western Port will get there, albeit a little slowly as there is a pathway. Mornington don't have a pathway as both women's senior teams are at best very poor and will not be there in 2019, YLM mediocre at best. Problem is that the $$'s are going to dead ends within the club, $80k to any employee at any club is going to have a negative impact. It would be very interesting to see what Mornington are spending off court or in other words how many snouts are in the trough.

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Reality  
Last year

@Jack - $80K to an employee isn't alot of money so not sure why thats a gripe.

Hopefully Mornington can turn it around but the seniors have had issues for a while but perhaps taking a year or two off to rebuild might be the best way forward.

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Billy  
Last year

I'd suggest 80k at a smallish basketball club is pretty high...

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Reality  
Last year

Depends on the work. If its a fulltime job than that salary isn't crazy money.

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Daniel  
Last year

Reality : could you please advise just who are they going to rebuild with ? all the up and coming players have gone there is nothing coming through to fill senior ranks, for the last 3 years the club has lost on average 25 juniors per year.

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Anon  
Last year

Let alone the juniors, seniors and coaches in the past 4 years. Always interesting when one of the "gun" coaches, they used a few years back, to help change what was in place with coaches,selections & teams in rep has gone south in the past year or so and assorted others have followed. Doesn't that say something. No seniors to mentor the junior - what would you be looking at if you are a parent looking at pathways. Juniors, then nothing an uphill marketing strategy.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Maybe merge with Frankston, better still their CEO is looking for a new place to destroy

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Anonymous  
Last year

So 2 shithouse clubs merge? Surely a joke.

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Reality  
Last year

Things take time..They are struggling at the moment but it doesn't take long for clubs to turn it around with some sound management and long term plans building from the juniors.

You say all the juniors left well kids and parents will be attracted to clubs that are well run and organised, i don't know the employees but i'm just stating it doesn't take long to turn it around as other clubs around Melbourne have shown in the past.

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Jack  
Last year

Reality you are indeed living a fantasy world where the prince rescues the damsel in distress and they all live happily ever after.
you are right when you say they are struggling, however they have been struggling for three years under this current committee/management.
you mention sound management and long term plans will turn the club around at present we do not have any competent people capable of making such plans.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yeah Franga's recovered well.

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Reality  
Last year

If the people need to change so be it but its been done before.

Many clubs can get it together quickly as all organisations have ups & downs.

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Karma  
Last year

Reality: Mornington doesn't have ups its all downs the biggest problem there is they actually believe they are doing a sensational job when in fact they have destroyed it.
A good example is the senior program loss of the men's team and the women well what a debacle and no stock to rebuild with as the club has gone from 14 girls teams to 7 in couple of years but on the bright side they now have a coffee card problem is the kiosk is hardly open an when it is the girl is never in there she's in the office talking to the doorkeeper

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Anonymous  
Last year

Can we start a new thread about the Mornington Kiosk as this is about their big v program

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Karma  
Last year

go for it anonymous

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Anonymous  
Last year

Reality's real name is Fantasy.

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Anon:  
Last year

Watched YLW's game last night all I can say is MY GOD

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Jack  
Last year

Would rather watch paint dry, luckily Pakky took the opportunity to share some minutes around otherwise it would have been a lot worse, I think that is the third around 50 point loss in a row. Big V program is over at Mornington and should be given the last rites. All the talk of rebuilding and a 5 year strategic plan is just nonsensical propaganda from people "running" the club who have absolutely no idea. Any Builder will tell you that you can't build without solid foundations, just forget it.

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Karma  
Last year

Fair comment Jack out of curiosity where do you think the problem lies

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Anonymous  
Last year

Why are you going out of your way to watch these games?
Just to hang shit on the girls who are trying their best?
Get a life.

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Bevan  
Last year

There's clearly some extremely knowledgeable people around all things YLW, Big V, basketball development and running associations within this forum post. I hope to see these people putting their hands up at the AGM to put that expertise into good use. I’m sure any 'struggling’ Association would be glad to have you.

By the way, I was also at the game last night. Despite the score, I saw a group of girls who were giving their absolute best and enjoying their basketball. There are certainly facets of their game that need some work but you can’t fault their endeavour. And with participation for female sport on the decline, is the result the most important consideration???

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gelder  
Last year


Bevan
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There's clearly some extremely knowledgeable people around all things YLW, Big V, basketball development and running associations within this forum post. I hope to see these people putting their hands up at the AGM to put that expertise into good use. I'm sure any 'struggling’ Association would be glad to have you.

By the way, I was also at the game last night. Despite the score, I saw a group of girls who were giving their absolute best and enjoying their basketball. There are certainly facets of their game that need some work but you can’t fault their endeavour. And with participation for female sport on the decline, is the result the most important consideration???

So you were at a Domestic U23 Girls game then Bevan?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Keith
Westernport womens program is a joke.
Just look at the results so far. YL team only had 3 wins. So perhaps things aren't that great there either.

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Daniel  
Last year

Bevan
You are quite correct there are a lot of knowlegable people who would love to get on board and save the club but the current committee have manipulated and made it impossible for those people to get on board

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Anonymous  
Last year

Daniel. You need to get a life.
Bevan made more sense in one post than half the flags commenting on here.
YL programs are about development not recruiiting to win. Keep going Breakers things will turn.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Westernport ylw are in their second season with 3 or 4 wins from 7 games mornington are in their 4th season with no wins from 7 games.
2 seasons ago mornington ylw played in a preliminary final.
Not hard to figure whoose in a better place

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Anonymous  
Last year

Anonymous you make comment yl programs are about development and not recruiting just to win and you are 100% right.
why then does mornington only have 3 home grown players in the entire senior womens program

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Jack  
Last year

I don't think anyone is questioning the endeavor of the players, unfortunately the skill level yes. The teams have been let down by the club, YLW was developing really well until changes were made by the club. With the amount of $'s it costs to have Big V teams it is about being competitive at the very least, which they aren't. Mornington cannot develop from within, there is just not the caliber available. Bevan, if you want "fun ball" go watch domestic.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Unfortunately Western Port put all their cash into their mens program (that is doing very very well I may add)

Its so sad to see Mornington in its current shape! They where once such an exciting club on the rise.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes it's so unfortunate when money gets put into men's sports.

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Mike  
Last year

Maybe if Mornington had put a bit into their men's program instead of spending it all on salaries and wages they'd still have a men's team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Don't think any different t going into wp men's as their women's programs and not a lot going into either.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Westernport YLW haven't won 4 games , they've won 2 games, and their Senior Womens Team nil.

Yep the Steelers are on fire.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Word out of Morno is they have a few things in the works and will have a senior mens team back on floor next year

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Anon  
Last year

And who are they going to get to play for them in a seniors team, the committee & ex committee members kids. That's what seems to be running around at the moment in Youth and they were going to be in mens seniors originally. With the coach they put in place for this year for mens and now running the Youth team who gets tech's so frequently (and disqualified out of a stadium) as he has so far this year, how is that going to attract any caliber of player to play and or mentor the little ones next year.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hearing disturbing stories about youth men's coach altercation with a player? Ugly to say the least!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Tell us.

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Reality  
Last year

Gonna tell us?

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Anonymous  
Last year

cant be that disturbing then

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Anonymous  
Last year

https://www.hoops.com.au/forum/43545-coach-and-player-punch-up/

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