TrevorTorrance
Earlier this year

NBL1 West 2024 Season

Thought it's time we start a new thread for the official start of the 2024 NBL1 West season. Would be good to get everyone's thoughts on the rosters and the predications @woj and @boomer??

Are TT's squad going back to back will Rocco upset them with their sacked roster, are the Senators legit and can the Wolves win it all?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Rumblings womens coaches not happy. Emma Clarke and Steph Gorman unrestricted. Another player for TT and they look WNBL level. Cougars Rocko Wolves Perry Lakes daylight Perth Willo Warwick daylight everyone else

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

anyone know details for preseason games this week?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

from @noidea

Men

Wolves
Flames
Buccs
Senators
Redbacks
Cockburn
Eagles
Suns
Tigers
Lightning
Hawks
Magic
Slammers
Giants

MVP - Todd Withers

First Team
G - Josh Braun
G - Devondrik Walker
F - Caleb Davis
F - Todd Withers
C - Sebit Reath

Women

Flames
Wolves
Cougars
Redbacks
Hawks
Lightning
Magic
Warwick
Tigers
Eagles
Giants
Suns
Slammers

MVP - Alex Sharp

First Team
G - Steph Gorman
G - Jayda Clarke
F - Emma Clarke
F - Alex Sharp
C - Sam Roscoe

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Wally Hagan Stadium, Perth, WA, Australia, Western Australia 6163
Public · Anyone on or off Facebook
Welcome to our official pre-season game vs both the Rockingham Flames (women) and Joondalup Wolves (men).
This is one of your last opportunities to check out our NBL1 men and women before our season tips off on March 28.

Cougars v Wolves - Championship Men: 430pm
Cougars v Flames (Women): 6.30pm
Cougars v Wolves (Men): 8.30pm

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

By the way the above preseason game is this Saturday 9 March

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Eagles vs Hawks Sat 9 March
Morley Sport and Rec Centre.
Free entry
Women 6:30pm Men 8:30pm

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Women's and Men's "Eagles v Hawks", isn't this a classic "why bother" preseason cup?

Hawks Women's will be top 4 without doubt, Men have lost everyone of note and likely to battle Slammers and Magic for a wooden spoon.

Flames v Cougars a much
better option, at least 2 decent games (WNBL availability pending). Will be interesting who Flames Men roll out, apparently Vague already in town and ready to play with Armour, Clarke, Field, Chan, Hunt. Would expect Cougars in the Men, Flames in the Women to prevail here.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Yeah, how long is Walker out for? Did they announced a 2nd import yet, now that Combs is with the Wolves?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

My preseason predictions for the Men's bracket

1. Wolves
2. Buccs
3. Redbacks
4. Senators
5. Flames
6. Tigers
7. Cockburn
8. Lightning
9. Eagles
10. Hawks
11. Magic
12. Suns
13. Giants
14. Slammers

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Hoot  
Earlier this year

Will be heading to EP V PL pre-season game on Saturday.

Looking forward to seeing their new line up. Mens team has lost some players but their roster, on paper, is looking great and more balanced this season too.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

EP or PL is looking good on paper?

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Hoot  
Earlier this year

EP.
Sunday back. Okwera after NBL season.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Is Justin King back with EP? is he even back in Perth...

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

No news on Justin King but East Perth have also signed Sharif Watson as a local.
Sharif is an Arizona Christian University graduate and has played overseas in Bolivia, Israel, Germany and Spain. In 2018 he came to Australia, and loved it so much he became a permanent resident. Sharif has played in the NBL1 South and NBL1 East and now join the Eagles in West.
Playing for the Maitland Mustangs Sharif averaged 7.53 rebounds and 14.53 points per game

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Hoot  
Earlier this year

I do not believe King will be returning to EP.

With Sunday back, he kind of takes King's spot IMO, even though they are different players.

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Bored  
Earlier this year

And no comparison really, Sunday is far better

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I agree. Sunday is a huge upgrade. King is a good scorer but sometimes to the detriment of the team.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

you saying King plays "Hero Ball" Andrew? haha
he is married to a Perth girl, so I'm sure we will see him playing somewhere.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Ha ha yeah there is a fair bit of hero hall TT. I'm sure he'll end up somewhere. He still has plenty to give.

Went to the Eagles vs Hawks game at Morley. The Eagles are moving back there. It's been refurbished and has about 500 new seats.

Eagles won. They still have David Okwera, Lee Roberts and the import big from last season to return. They look good on paper. If they can play good team ball they'll have a decent season

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

The women (eagles) are in for a long season, they were awful. Agree with Andrew saw glimpses of what could shape as a contender put the locks on Hawkes in the third after a terrible start.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Wally Hagan tonight fell the way of the Cougs men and women

Women's games missing some recruits but could be a way too early look at this years GF match up. Cougars depth is going to be something else

Men's game was a cracker. Cougars much improved but no vague tonight. Wolves solid and players to come

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Anymore preseason games scheduled?

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Hoot  
Earlier this year

Footage I shot from EP V PH men's pre-season game
https://x.com/AdamWesterhout/status/1767009247911715217?s=20

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Bored  
Earlier this year

So are we expecting this to the the East Perth roster? Plenty of talent if so.
Sunday Dech
Taylor Young
Jerami Grace
Sebit Reath
David Okwera
Sharif Watson
Lee Roberts

Not to mention the import from last year mentioned above, the centre they had last year that averaged 2-3 blocks a game, and Filpo


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wildcat  
Earlier this year

Woj bomb where you at?

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Hoot: Great video
Bored: Yes that looks like the team with a few younger locals sprinkled in. I spoke with Taylor Young after the game & he mentioned the 3 bigs still to come.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Hawk's didn't have their imports but their new 208cm big Luke Phillips looked great. Scored 35 points. Adelaide boy went to Louisiana-Monroe college.

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

I like Senators personally.
Todd Withers x Michael Harris x Zac Gattorna is a lot of firepower

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

nice video Hoot- get it going!

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Where is EP getting all this $$$ from for the Mens team. I know David was chasing 2k per game from a few other team, plus all the others, they are way over the cap! Or Filpo paying for everything through his company?

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

Think you'll find that they are now employed by Filpo

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Woj Bomb  
Earlier this year

NBL 1 Women Preview
Not much goss around the league so here are Woj Bombs
1. Cougars
Starters: Williams, Ciabattoni, Gorman, Raber (R), Edwards
The defending champs have retooled again and thanks to a BWA blunder both Wolves and Cougars can add another restricted player. Not that the Cougars need any help with a strong starting group and Turnour-McCarty off the bench. Cibba is a great get taking the ball handling pressure off Williams, Raber is a euro stud and if they can bring in late a Mortenstein its game over. Champs are number 1!

2. Flames
Starters: Ryan (R), Gandini, Parker-Williams, Sharp (R), Pineau.
New coach Wong makes the trek down the highway and picked up a few Tigers on the way. Strong bench support in formers starters Doran, Mader, Amos and Jakens. But a new coach and big roster change over with take some time to gel. But Sharp is still the best go to scorer in the league and whilst Ryan has not been announced this is the strong rumour.
3. Wolves
Starters: Huff (R), Smith, Clarke, Toeaina, Import 5 (R).
Great recruiting Summer landing possibly the two best wings in the competition in Toeaina and Clarke. Rumors of them having the same budget as the men and are loading up even further. Heaps of scoring firepower with Belcher off the bench, need a defensive enforcer at the 5 to battle inside. Big changeover of personnel for a first year coach.
4. Redbacks
Starters: Denehey, Pirini, Chou (R), Maley (R), Hartree

Huge get landing WNBL MVP Anneli Maley who automatically becomes the MVP favourite, the question will be does Olympics take her away at the back end of the season. Her combo with ex Sun Chou is some firepower. Solid bench support in Thompson and Malone. Team may have another piece coming in as they miss a 3rd big.

5. Tigers
Starters: Winter, Kelly, A Jacobs, Brcaninovic (R), Guy (R)

Parker has quietly picked up a solid recruiting class adding CJ Jacobs from college, CJ is a formidable scorer and will pair with her athletic sister. The addition of Guy moves Brcaninovic to the 4 her best position and I can see her moving into MVP contention. Foster and Waite and CJ off the bench. Can't write off Parker teams.

6. Hawks
Starters: McCarthy, Ashby, J Clark, Dennis, Isenberger

Mansfield still has two import spots to fill so this team could be dangerous, at least one spot will go to a mobile 3, 4. Pick up of the season in the recruitment of Jayda Clark from the AIS that must hurt those at Warwick. Best junior core in the league. Can McCarthy lead this team is the question and do they load for a title run.

7. Senators
Starters: Barr, Forster, Import (R), Murphy (R), Burton

Losing MCH is a big, big loss and surely they look to fill with a high caliber import. This is now Forster’s team as she elevates into a top 10 player in this league. Bench depth is a weakness though picked up Miotti and coach Robbins first year in charge.

8. Magic
Starters: Milo,McKenna Dale, E Klastourney, Frannson (R), Roscoe (R)

Losing Toeaina as a local really hurt recruiting this year. Dale is a wing and comes in from College and a NZ international known as a knock down shooter. A lot will rest on Roscoe and if she can have a top 5 season performance. This team isn’t going to beat anyone in pace but again will be defensive leaders. Bench experience in Halleen, B Kalstourney, Richards.

9. Lightning
Starters: Jones, Ucich, Import (R), Gowland, Morrell (R)
Little quiet on the recruiting path, Locking in Morrell and her Dad as coach is a huge addition. Jones back after receiving a heap of interest from rival clubs gives them a scoring 1-2 punch. Bench is still thin though hopefully Coleman makes her return. Benn still gives them a solid ballhandler and Ucich from Wolves gives them leadership.

10. Suns
Starters: Fotu, Import (R), Import (R), NZ, Taylor

A complete rebuild has happened again for this team, Talks is two imports and two NZ’s have been signed (Fotu). Team could be real decent. Fotu is a solid scoring guard with a few other NBL1 teams chasing her. New coach, team could have potential though bench depth is an issue.

11. Giants
Starters: Fech (R), Zipser (R), Sidebottom

Lauren Fech is a US PG out of Wisconnson. Zipser is a 191cm German centre that will give them bookends to play with for new coach Worthington. Losing talent continues to happen however as rumours of G Gatti not returning. Very little on the giants signings, hopefully they have pulled out a couple of Adelaide girls.

12. Eagles
Starters: Allen, Bailey, Import (R), Goulding, Hawthorne (R)

Mary Goulding is the x factor here, former league MVP is facing a return and really just getting her back on court is a major achievement for the girl. Big thoughts with her. Hawthorne has moved from Lakeside and a player I really like last year. Can Allen make the leap into one of the premier competition guards.

13. Slammers
Starters: Smith (R), Cox (R), Barrett, Sears

Smith is a 173cm forward from Canada. Cox is a 6’1 forward averaging a double double in the Mexican league. Hopefully they have a guard signing coming up. Should be a lot more competitive that last year.





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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Think you'll find that they are now employed by Filpo

Well I guess if you've never been able to attract decent sponsorship as an association there's always this in the short term... until the coach is sacked/departs. His wife is president too - imagine trying to untangle all of that when things go pear shaped from an organisational perspective.

Good on the individuals for putting their money in though.

I wonder how much work the players are actually doing for this company since it's an IT security business.

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whatevr  
Earlier this year

Robbie Ryan is on Rockinghams players page on the NBL1 website

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Jemma Gatti to sign with Casey

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

The only preseason game I know about this weekend is
Womens Eagles vs Slammers
Sat 16 March
Morley Rec Centre
6:30pm

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Another womens preseason game

Redbacks vs Flames
Wed 13 March
Belmont Oasis
6:30pm
Free

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

No Lakeside or Willo preseason games?

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Didn't Lakeside play Warwick this week Trevor? Thought I saw something on their socials. Anyone know the result?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

No saw nothing on IG. They still missing an import too on the girls squad! leaving it a tad late, hope its a banger!

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Did Rocco announce their 2nd mens import yet?
Is Walker over his injury yet?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Lakeside Womens have signed Kiwi JADA MANASE- not sure if she is their 2nd import or is she a local? Shooting Guard- Seems like she has gone through a lot so good on Lakeside giving her a shot.

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

Kiwis are locals

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

That's why more of them are being signed. Kiwi players are using the WA NBL1 to try and get noticed for Eastern State NBL1 teams and NBL

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Mens preseason game

Fri 15 March
Eagles vs Curtain University
Morley Recreation Centre
Court 5
7pm

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CRAYFISH  
Earlier this year

Marshall Nelson to Willetton. Trouble at Flames?

Is Walker ready to play?

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

Not sure if trouble at Flames or more money being offered by Willetton than Flames prepared to pay

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

CRAYFISH where did you hear about Marshall Nelson to Willeton.
Flames announced his re-signing in Dec

https://www.facebook.com/rockingham.flames/posts/pfbid0qCEBo4rY7sV93CxCdcMod4kD6hAtxuavNWBuYcQJFBgDupJUDzfqzjcJuBEr4Jhul

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TW  
Earlier this year

Marshall Nelson definitely signed with Willo. Was seen today at Bendat for their integrity/team pics in Willo gear.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

MN resigned with The Flames in Dec!

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Wow that's huge. Marshall Nelson / Damien Scott back court will be deadly

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Great get for Willo (MN) but why? MN and Scott back court tough, what does that do for Fee then (promised big things end of last year)?

Men's scratch match results, Lakeside beat Senators, Suns beat Cougars even with Vague playing, Redbacks narrowly over Slammers with plenty of finger pointing and an early, concerning lack of cohesion for Coach Nix. Possibly too many promises made to too many for the men in the red and black?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Ok Thanks Eager. Why are they not posting or promoting any preseason results! Super weird!
Where are you get the info? Thanks

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Redbacks socials had the result of their game, Warwick posted about their hit out with Lakeside, plenty of things overheard by people at the NBL1 day on Saturday that then get repeated through the various grapevines.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Yeah killer. Looking forward to the season!

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

So 100% confirmed Marshall Nelson did signed with Willo. After Wazza was sacked they tried to reneg contracts with the players. He bailed and signed a cheaper deal in Willo. Huge signing for them!

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Knowall  
Earlier this year

Marshall has definitely signed for Willo, didn't like a the restructure pay

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Men's Pre-season Game:

Eagles vs Cougars
Fri 22 March
7:30pm
Morley Rec Centre

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Another Preseason Game this weekend

Flames vs Suns

Sat 23 March
The Hothouse

Women 6pm
Men 8pm

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Bored  
Earlier this year

Is it possible to get access to game results and box scores from last season? Each year the NBL1 west websites seems to scrub the results as they refresh the fixtures for the new season.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I can't find past boxscores just game summaries

https://www.livesport.com/basketball/australia/nbl1-west/archive/

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Robbie Ryan is on Rockinghams players page on the NBL1 website
Zac Gattorna is on Geraldton's. It means nothing.

If you read the player tracker, you get one set of rosters. Read the roster pages on the club websites, you get another set of rosters. Track signings through club and league socials, and it's a third set of rosters. It's ridiculous. Club socials are presumably the most accurate, but just by those numbers several teams only have half a dozen players.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Cody Ellis has come out of retirement ( ha ha) and re-signed with the Senators

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

he only retired 6 months ago? yeah?
much left in the tank?

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

My preseason predictions for the men with minimal info

1. Buccs - loss of Meunier is tough, but picking up Braun is massive. Keeping a lot of their core there with a prime Narkle will keep them right at the top of the league.
2. Wolves - Can Wade and Elliott co-exist in the back court? Will Turnage be in game shape? Dove filled a lot of gaps in their game play last year and was not a focal point in their offense. Will Combs be able to replicate this effort?
3. Redbacks - on paper are loaded, but chemistry will again be the challenge for nix for this year. By all accounts the challenge has been visible in pre season games.
4. Tigers - if the nelson signing is accurate they will be top 4.
5. Senators - Ellis out of retirement is a big boost.
6. Flames - loss of nelson, walker coming off injury, Godfrey another year older. Unsure if Jervis is back? No Combs. Unknown who replacement is? Whilst many unknowns, they still have Petrik and a chequebook. Cant see them not signing some high level guys as replacements.
7. Cockburn - I expect them to start strong and maybe take a few teams by surprise. Will be a playoff team but dont see them being in the top end of the ladder this season. Excited to see Vague back in the west.
8. Eagles - On paper have a hell of a roster. Much better than last year which was also a good roster. Sunday Dech will be a revelation for them. Okwera gives them much needed length and versatility inside. Roberts joining the team much earlier than last year will help.
9. Lightning - need to start competing for playoff position again. Malat came with big expectations but they havent been able to pull it together so far.
10. Hawks - rebuild year
11. Magic - will be more competitive than last
12. Suns - Joe Cook Green gone.
13. Giants - have struggled since creek departure
14. Slammers - God help them

All-Star 5
Dech
Braun
Walker
Harris
Vague

MVP Braun



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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Thanks @Boomer

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

Anyone know why the Cougars women are allowed three imports?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Who are the 3 imports TT has recruited?

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whatevr  
Earlier this year

You're allowed three if you win the year before.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Don't they have only 2 imports? Daniel and Maria?

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

Gorman??

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loungefly  
Earlier this year

Steph Gorman??? the import from Victoria?

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

Didnt she play too many minutes for Lynx??

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Bored  
Earlier this year

Gorman played 470 minutes this season for the Lynx.

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whatevr  
Earlier this year

Joondalup women going for three to. Clarke's minutes were over the limit.

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Isn't the limit assessed in January or something like that, rather than the end of the season? I imagine the McDonald injury would have pushed Gorman's minutes up.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Gorman is Aussie! haha
They have only two imports!

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Billy Bob  
Earlier this year

Bwa stuffed up and put the wrong season for restricted minutes. Some capitalised on the mistake....

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

Cougs stacked

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Gorman is Aussie! haha
They have only two imports!
Everyone is aware of that, they're just using "import" to mean "restricted player."

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

What Kobe said.

They have imports and wnbl players everywhere

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McBlurter  
Earlier this year

Rocko announce signing of Gorjok Gak

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Gak for Nelson trade?? haha

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Heard Lakeside W have signed a new point/shooting gaurd "import" from the us who they will announce next week. she will miss game 1

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I still haven't seen anything official about Marshall Nelson to Tigers.

In Gaks announcement to Flames they mention Nelson in this article.

https://nbl1.com.au/news/rockingham-add-defensive-superstar/west

"While Gak isn't as natural as a scorer as Combs, his league-best defence will compensate - while back-to-back MVP Deondrick Walker and NBL1 National Finals All-Star Five member Marshall Nelson will be able to carry Rockingham’s offence once again."

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No Idea  
Earlier this year

Round 1 Easter Thursday predictions

Cougars v Magic
M: Cougars by 14
W: Cougars by 16

Flames v Slammers
M: Flames by 15
W: Flames by 60

Senators v Eagles
M: Senators by 10
W: Senators by 20

Suns v Hawks
M: Suns by 1
W: Hawks by 35

Tigers v Lightning
M: Tigers by 12
W: Lightning by 5

Wolves v Redbacks
M: Wolves by 8
W: Wolves by 22

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Predictions for NBL1 Men - Round 1

Cougars v Magic @ Wally Hagan
Prediction: Cougars by 18
Coach Clayden back as a Head Coach for 24 and is no stranger to the league. Has a good mix of youth and experience in this group and while the season is in its early stages the older bodies will be fresher and ready to go. Staying healthy will be the challenge later in the season. Armour, Vague, Bobby Bones and Hunt will form the core of their Aussies. Magic have added a few pieces to their roster from last year but is it enough to make a significant difference? It could be another long year for Utley.

Flames v Slammers @ the hot house
Prediction: Flames by 25
Slammers welcome back Criag and Barrett, 2 of their young up and comers. Weeden is back out of retirement. Sadly I dont think it is enough to get them competitive with the top half of the league. Even if undermanned at the moment, the Flames will have too much experience and depth. Love the signing of Gak for the Flames.

Senators v Eagles @ Warwick Stadium
Prediction: Senators by 5
This should be an entertaining game. Warwick with a new look under a new HC. Cooper has done a great job filling the gaps that Elliott and Davis leave behind. Withers will be a significant upgrade of import to what Ford brought to the table last year. Harris had a solid year for the wildcats and should be coming into this NBL1 season as confident as ever. Ellis out of his short lived retirement. Maybe just enough to get out of preseason. Eagles adding Dech and Okwera bolster their lineup. Okwera needs to show something this year and has a great opportunity to do so in this team. Big $ spent here for the Eagles and they will want to see it translate into wins.

Suns v Hawks @ Ray Owen
Prediction: Suns by 7
Suns have secured Brian Michaels which somewhat fills some of the void Cook-Green left when departing for Redbacks. Can Michaels stay healthy? Some ageing bodies with Salinas and Huntington going around again. imports Raph Edwards-Thomas and Diante Mearis bolster their core guys of Lowe, Maxwell and Dinardo. Barr in first year as HC at NBL1 level will be looking to make his mark in the league. Hawks signing Abrom from Magic and Keys from NBL1 north give them 2 solid imports. Joel Viaingina fast becoming one of the most journeyed players in the league, second to kyle armour, joins the hawks this season. Luke Phillips returning with brother Keegan after following Barr to Cougars. Hawks have a nice roster but Im going with the Suns to steal this one early in the season.

Tigers v Lightning @ the boulevard
Prediction: Lightning by 12
Great way to kick off the season with a rivarly game for these two teams. Lakeside have brought in imports Mike Adewunmi and Marshawn Blackmon who give them some much needed speed and athleticism. Dom Jackson and Max Richards return with Josh Davey. Tom Parkinson back for another season. Lakeside's young big Ryan Hunt could be a surprise packet for them this year. Tigers dont seem to have made much of any upgrades (unless the signing of Nelson is true). Gorjok Gak leaving for the Flames is replaced by his brother Deng. Whilst a handy player, is not the same level as Gorjok. Dupree, Goldfields Giants import from last season replaces Hoskins. Dupree did not appear to be the same level of player as Hoskins last year. Vigor returns with Black, Scott and the young bigs of Gerovich and Fitzgerald. The lightning have a bit more firepower here and should handle the Tigers in round 1.


Wolves v Redbacks @ HBF
Prediction: Wolves by 15
There was much song and dance about the showcourt at HBF not being big enough to hold the enormous crowds coming in to watch the wolves in 2023. the Wolves have answered by relocating to a different court with more capacity. will be interesting to see the new setup there. Wolves losing Dove is a big loss. Picking up Elliott and Davis from Warwick and Combes from Flames are fantastic signings. Wade rejoins the group after a year out with injury. They have plenty of firepower with this roster but can they coexist? Redbacks in a similar fashion have loaded up once more. The super-team approach. Jackson, Timms, Cook-Green, Formosa, Dimakopoulos, import Gibson, Colton, Mincherton and a couple more make up the roster for the reds. Appeared to have similar cohesion issues during preseason games as they had last year. but it is a new group on many fronts. Im going with the Wolves by 15 in this one.

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

Woj?

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Stats  
Earlier this year

Anyone know what is happening with Hawks players (2023) Jack Isenbarger and Andew Ferguson ??

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I know Andrew Ferguson is currently playing in Japan but no news beyond that.

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loungefly  
Earlier this year

Sami back at the Flames.... does that make them favourites now?

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wildcat  
Earlier this year

She will play 4 games against mostly non finals teams

Shouldn't make a difference

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whatevr  
Earlier this year

Maybe they got rid of Warren because he wasn't spending enough??

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Former semi-professional basketball Chudier Towath Pal will have to serve at least 15 years in jail before he can be considered for parole.

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McBlurter  
Earlier this year

"Maybe they got rid of Warren because he wasn't spending enough??"

You wouldn't be looking at the Rocko men's bench tonight and cause them of spending big

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

Michael Harris with a 42 piece. He was 3rd in the NZNBL for scoring last off-season, which is a better quality league than the NBL1 West. He and Todd Withers will be 1st team.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Went to the Willo v Lakeside game- Marshall was on the Willo bench in street clothes. Lakeside's new import PG, Mike looks like a Gem- just couldn't get that win. Shon was very athletic but couldn't finish on so many occasions. They looked out sorts for most of the game and missed Josh's rebounding. Will be a mid tier team.

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Was at the Tigers Lightning game and can confirm Adewunmi for the lightning is the real deal

Can do it all offensively.

After being down 19pts at half, Adewunmi led a big comeback, aided by some sweet shooting by young Bennett off the bench.

Was disappointing the ref robbed the sellout crowd of a potential down to the wire finish calling Adewunmi for his 5th foul by way of a technical for flopping after he hit a contested 3 and took contact. From memory the 3 he hit brought the margin to 5 points. It should have been a 4 point play. The crazy thing was he didnt call the tech until the play was moving back in the other direction. Adewunmi and the tigers defender picked themselves up off the floor and started running back for the next play and a few seconds later the ref blew the whistle and called the technical sending Adewunmi to the bench. horrible for the context of the game.

Lakesides other import struggled bigtime. Couldnt buy a basket. Did have a monster dunk late in the game once it was out of reach but outside of that not much to write home about.

Tigers very guard heavy. Will be interesting to see how they go with teams that like to get the ball in the paint. It will be interesting to see how Nelson, Williams, Scott and Dupree coexist.

Lakeside without Davey struggled on the glass. Tigers outrebounding them by 21 boards.

I know the tigers refurbished stadium is only just completed but they already dont have enough seating. Was great to see such an amazing turnout for opening night. Tigers might need to take a leaf out of the wolves book and find a way to relocate to another court and get more fans in.




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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I went to the Wolves vs Redbacks game last night.
Wolves were without Jonathan Wade (injury) & Jeremy Combs (not arrived yet) and Redbacks missing Ioannis Dimakopoulos & Connor Mincherton.

Wolves clearly played the better team game. They looked well drilled with a good pe-rseason under their belts. Plenty of ball movement and better shot selection. Look like a higher IQ team than last season. CJ Turnage has come into the season in much better shape than previous and was unstoppable. They also played much better hustle defense than last season. Ethan Elliot did an elite defensive job on Cook-Green.

Redbacks on the otherhand, although loaded with talent played low IQ basketball. Overdribbling and poor shot selection. I think they are missing a high IQ point guard to run the team. As a result I feel their new import will have a frustrating season and not live up to his potential unless they can run some more plays for him.

The game was pretty much a sellout which was great considering the new higher capacity court / seating.

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Billy Bob  
Earlier this year

Redbacks dominated off season socials to go 0-2 first up

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Flames have just signed Quinton Dove. That's just changed the game for them.

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Aza  
Earlier this year

East Perth still have David Okwera, Jarrad Anastasia and Grace to come into the line up

Does anyone know if they are getting Lee Roberts too?

Stacked?

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

According to Taylor Young, Lee Roberts has signed too. He normally arrives late as he plays overseas in the offseason. I also read it on the NBL1 recap article.

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

Wait so the flames have Devondrick, Dove and Gak???

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

MaxM yes Walker, Dove and Gak. Basically Dove in for Coombs, Gak in for Jervis but no high level replacement for Marshall Nelson

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The west  
Earlier this year

Still some M Nelson contract issues behind the scenes . Signed at Willo but not sure rocko see it that way .

Hopefully we see him out there soon

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

What happened with Dove in Indo? He was doing well over there, getting $$$ and the season is over in June?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

I guess he is still dating Neseya, so make sense Dove signs with the Flames too.

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Went and watched EP v Senators Thursday night, expected so much more from EP to be honest. Coach Cooper done a great job building his team, but Coach Filpo struggling to control the egos and expectations from his. They looked lost more often than not. As for Dove to Flames, almost the worst kept secret but does it make them better than last year? Will be interesting to see the Walker/Dove dynamic, and Jervis was the ultimate team/role player, is Gak that player? Have heard the same regarding Nelson to Tigers, that being Rockingham not keen on approving the transfer, guess it's a watch this space situation.

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Aza  
Earlier this year

Do Warwick only have Zac G to come into the line up?

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Nelson wasnt great for the Flames last season. Numbers were significantly reduced on previous seasons.
The Flames have a heck of a front court in Gak and Dove.
Godfrey needs to stay healthy for this to work.
Durnin turned in a monster game on the weekend didnt he? 18 and 16!

I was curious why Nelson didnt play in season opener. Tigers announced the signing on social media the day before the game but didnt play. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with the NBL1 powers that be.

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

Wow, listened in to Caleb Kingston's review of Rd1 given he was was touted as an "expert" not.just by himself but promoted by NBL1 West. Guy clearly hasn't got a clue, seemingly nothing ore than a mouthpiece for Nix and the Redbacks. I guess Redbacks continue to own and manipulate the social media game, shame Nix and his team can't follow through on court. So glad my guys, led by Coach Filpo, have kept quiet after last Thursday, but don't worry, we're coming.

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

NBL1 West Power Rankings - Round 1

1. Wolves
Wolves def Redbacks by 18
I predicted they would have a win in their first round matchup vs Redbacks by 15. the 18 point victory was right in that range. Still no Wade for the Wolves but the addition of Elliott covers that spot until he returns. Turnage turned up! Combes still to come in also. Wolves had a packed house on their new court. Great for the league.

2. Senators
Senators def Eagles by 14
14 point win for the boys in blue in their season opener. Harris going bananas for 42pts. I did manage to get the pick right but thought it would be a closer game than it actually was. Eagles in disarray but have Okwera and Roberts still to come in. Withers looks nice in the Cooper system and they have some good role players. Gattorna still to join.

3. Cougars
Cougars def Magic by 12
Nice little win to welcome back Claydo to the HC chair. I predicted a slightly bigger margin for the cougars win but the Magic are improved from last year. Hunt went ballistic off the bench for 25pts and 9rb. Maybe a point to prove coming off the bench. Vague with a nice showing and Field doing his normal thing.

4. Flames
Flames def Slammers by 11
Once again got the pick right but not the margin. Hard to get close to the pin when you havent had a lot of opportunity to see teams in pre season! Durnin with a monster night. 18 and 16. Gak with a monster night putting up 28 and 15. Godfrey with 24. Nice little game from Emmanuel Dech off the bench too. Big signing in Dove announced the other day. will be interesting to see how things play out with Nelson moving.

5. Tigers
Tigers def lightning by 6.
I predicted an upset here but got that one wrong. Tigers blew a 19 point lead with the lightning bringing it right back to 2 points before a very poor decision by the referee robbed us of a down to the wire finish (see earlier post for that one!). Gak was handy for the Tigers and did an amazing job down the stretch coming up with key rebounds. Williams and Dupree looked like a great backcourt combo. Nelson coming in will give them a bit more scoring punch but will be interesting to see how the backcourt all gels (or not).

6. Hawks
Hawks def Suns by 5.
This was my other failed prediction. The Hawks grinding out a 2 possession win against a lively suns. Jaylen Key and Luke Phillips both recording double doubles and Abrom contributing nicely. Good road win for Barr in his HC debut at NBL1 level.

7. Lightning
Lightning went down fighting to the tigers and should be excited about the season ahead. Davey to come into the lineup still and some promising signs from Bennett and Hunt from their bench. Blackmon should find his feet soon and Adewunmi should he continue his opening game form is a serious MVP contender. A little concerned about their lack of depth at the PG position and perhaps should be on the phone to Nick Palleschi as quickly as possible. They just need someone with some experience there to help carry the load for the imports.

8. Suns
Have a good roster together and had a competitive game against Hawks. Will need to gel a little more to compete with the top tier teams.

9. Magic
Strong showing against Cougars, despite the loss. Well done on what looks like a very active off season for Utley. Will take a little to get the new group working well together.

10. Slammers
Good to see them competitive. Im reserving my judgement a little longer as to whether they can win more than 2-3 games.

11. Eagles
Good roster on paper. lots of work to do. if they get good cohesion from their guys could be a top 6 team. If not they could be the most ridiculed team in the league.

12. Redbacks
Much the same as the Eagles. I agree with previous post about killing the socials in the offseason. time to show it on the floor.

13. Buccs
didnt play, but their acquisitions in the offseason still give them a higher power ranking than the giants who also did not play.

14. Giants
didnt play and do not seem to have really upgraded anything from last year. Could be another very long year

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

NBL1 Men Round 2 Predictions

Friday: Magic v Flames @ Mandurah Aquatic
Flames by 12

Friday: Senators v Hawks @ Bendat
Senators by 5

Friday: Slammers v Cougars @ Eaton
Cougars by 15

Friday: Suns v Eagles @ Ray Owen
Suns by 7

Saturday: Buccs v Tigers @ Gero *Boomer's Game of the Round*
Buccs by 14

Saturday: Eagles v Senators @ Morley
Senators by 9

Saturday: Redbacks v Magic @ Belmont
Magic by 8

Saturday: Wolves v Slammers @ HBF
Wolves by 25

Saturday: Lightning v Giants @ Lakeside
Lightning by 14

Sunday: Flames v Giants @ Hothouse
Flames by 25

Projected player of the Week - Gak - Flames




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John Bagley  
Earlier this year

Word is that the Giants' two imports are studs. And looking at their roster on the NBL website, all the familiar faces are back - Ballantyne, Kon Anguit, Malek, Cummings, Garang, Reid.

And with a top-level coach running the show, I think they might be getting underestimated.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Marshall Nelson now official at the Tigers. He will be playing this weekend vs Buccs.
Nelson, Dupree and Scott is quite the guard rotation.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Lee Roberts official at Eagles. Will arrive in a couple of weeks when his overseas season finishes.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Is Taj Benning still going to play with the Mandurah Magic?

Also heard Lakeside's Woman 2nd import arrived, not sure if she is cleared to play yet.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Not sure what happened to Taj Benning.
Their 7ft import Michael Durr played last week.
Their second import, 6ft guard Joel Murry just arrived a couple of days ago.

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TW  
Earlier this year

Heard Taj decided to stay in college. Either that or he realised what a mess Magic are

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

the magic have traded up with Taj remaining in the USA to coach at Fairfield University. Joel was a D2 all american playing for West Texas before transferring to Long Beach State D1. He averaged 15ppg over his 2 years at LBS

Not sure if or when he will be cleared to play but once he hits the court he will be one of the premier guards in the league. nice backcourt there for utley with Pesava and Murray.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Thanks guys

How did the Cougars lose last night? Did BOB get injured?, didnt watch the game.

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

Hawks were up 92-78 with 3:30 left in the 4th, then the Senators scored 15-0, and won 93-92!

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Redbacks spending same on women as men?

If they are, someone needs. To be fired for being that reckless on a late arrival import and Maley who won't even play

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

How did Cougars lose, great Q Trevor. Maybe Slammers better and Cockburn not as good as the experts thought. Is odd that BOB only played little minutes, has the body caught up already? Shame if it was so early in the season though. Max, did you watch? What was the turnaround? Senators came out and smacked us next night so clearly weren't happy. I expected more from my Eagles after a big win Friday night. Just looked disinterested and second rate for our first home game. How did Redbacks lose to Mandurah too, Magic up big all night. Maybe a budget isn't all Coach Nix needs? Less focus on the social media game, more focus on the team needed perhaps? Goldfields with a solid weekend, split an away double has to be a good start. Gero doing Gero things, same with Wolves. All in all, even though it's early days, some preseason predictions maybe need to be revisited?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Do we start the #fireMM chant yet?
They are off to a rough start so early the Thunder men! Pressure is on Mike to start performing now.

Magic also looking ok- could be a dark horse.


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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

How did the rest of the weekend look?
That shooter from Vic who is playing for the Magic looks Legit!

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

NBL1 West Power Rankings - Round 2

1. Wolves
Previous ranking: 1
Wolves def Slammers by 16
Turnage has turned up! Currently leading the league in scoring averaging 36.5ppg and looking in better physical shape than last season. A small caveat on averaging in the mid 30's is that the wolves have yet to play any of the top level teams so expect that to drop a little. Still no Wade which is a concern considering he just sat out an entire season. Good to see young Chadinha getting some opportunity on the weekend. He has been consistently one of the top players in Open Championship men over the last few years and deserves an opportunity to show it at NBL1 level off the bench.

2. Senators
Previous ranking: 2
Senators def Hawks by 1 and Eagles by 16
Were expected to go 2-0 on the weekend and did. The hawks game they got out of jail ending the game on a 15-0 run to steal it. Withers and Harris not having their best nights against the hawks and it was really England and Pearl off the bench that kept their team in touch. I cant help but feel they need another piece to be truly a contender and definitely feeling the absence of Elliott at the PG position.

3.Flames
Previous ranking: 4
Flames def Magic by 9 in OT and Giants by 9
Also expected to go 2-0 this weekend and did so. I dont think they were expecting the fight they had on their hands against a refreshed Magic squad. Very very lucky to get away with that one. Murray got away from them in the first half but went cold in the second half. Flames did make adjustments which contributed to that. Gak again in stellar form putting up 2 massive games for a combined 51pts 20 rebs for the weekend. Bench production is going to be a bit of a concern for the magic. A lot of responsibility on young Hill to be productive in backing up Godfrey. Dove to come in still.

4. Buccs
Previous ranking: 13
Buccs def Tigers by 7
Previous ranking was purely based on the fact they hadn't played yet. Once they have a few more games under their belt we will see a bit more of a true reflection of where this team is at. Tigers are a solid outfit and with the addition of Nelson gives them one of the most potent back courts in the league. The Buccs jumped on the Tigers early and for the most part controlled the game from there. Bit of a rough patch in the 2nd q but they rectified it. Buccs played a main rotation of 7 guys and 6 of them in double figures. the 7th had 8 points. No Braun in this one. Solid win for first game of season.

5. Giants
Previous ranking 14
Giants def Lightning by 3, Giants def by Flames by 9
I picked them to lose both games this weekend and said they hadn't really upgraded. I do have to acknowledge them on the latter comment. They have upgraded with their big import and their coach. After watching them play I do believe they will be much more competitive than I thought. Struggled early in the game with Lakeside starting out in a 2-3 zone but managed to make some good adjustments to get some nice easy paint finishes, forcing lakeside out of the zone. Parsons is a stat machine. An undersized big who has great versatility and athleticism. Not going to be the biggest scorer in the league but is handy around the rim and a very good passer. Had a triple double against lakeside and was 3 assists shy of a triple double against Flames. Bell took over down the stretch of the lakeside game and was tough in pick and rolls. He seemed pretty animated at times and had a few words for the lakeside bench at different points in the game after hitting big shots. Im keen to see how he goes against more of the top end PG's in the league. Interesting to see Lennon Smartt on the coaching staff for the Giants. Should make for an interesting match up when the Giants face the Magic in May.

6. Magic
Previous ranking: 9
Magic def by Flames by 9 in OT, Magic def Redbacks by 3
Murray was a big signing for the Magic. He and fellow import Durr are going to be one of the best import combinations in the league. Molnar has been stellar. Utley has done a great job in the offseason and has within 1 season brought them back to being competitive. That is a feat in itself. Bertram appears to be relishing his starting role down there too. Unsure where Pesava was this weekend but would have definitely helped get them across the line against the flames had he played.

7. Tigers
Previous ranking: 5
Tigers def by Buccs by 7
Tigers at full strength weren't enough to defeat the Buccs without their best player. Nelson's first game for the Tigers. Will take some adjusting. It looks like Williams to be the one drawing the short straw out of the other guards in their lineup. Williams did announce a commitment to play for Seattle Pacific University this year so unsure if him playing NBL1 means he has opted out of that opportunity? Tigers lacking presence inside in this game vs the Buccs. I cant help but feel they are still missing a piece to be a legitimate top tier contender.

8. Hawks
Previous ranking: 6
Hawks lost to Senators by 1
Were in control the entire game bar the last 3 minutes. Abrom was on fire in the first half and finished with 34pts, not enough to get them across the line. Some key turnovers by Key and Phillips down the stretch set the scene for the Senators to get back in it. Nonetheless they showed they are competitive with one of the better teams in the competition.

9. Slammers
Previous ranking: 10
Slammers def Cougars by 12, Slammers def by Wolves by 16
Solid win against Cougars and which definitely shows improvement on last year. Had 9 of their 10 players who hit the court contribute to the scoring. Very good spread. Mathiang Muo is on the roster which gives them some good experience and shooting. Young up and comer, Keats with 11pts, 5rb, 3as and 7 steals against the cougars. Against the wolves they were just outmatched, but Tuach put up 39pts, showing his class.

10. Lightning
Previous ranking: 7
Lightning def by Giants by 3
Davey into the lineup after missing last week due to Aus 3 x 3 commitments. Had a fantastic game at that. Lightning hot in the first half from outside the 3. Couldnt sustain it into the second half. Concerning that they are getting smashed on the glass at the moment. Tigers outrebounded them by 21 last week and the Giants by 11 this weekend. Blackmon is averaging 19ppg at 35%FG. He has been expensive to get his points to date. Adewunmi struggled to get in a groove shooting 1-9 from 3 against the Giants and was not the same threat getting to the basket as he was against the Tigers last week. Richards was hot early in the game and then didnt seem to get many shots in the second half. They very clearly lack a genuine floor leader. Their bigs dont have much presence in the paint at the offensive end. Malek and Parsons were able to control the paint without much of a challenge. The Giants ran a double high screen action late in the game that the Lightning had all kinds of problems defending and couldnt adjust to. Bell having his way and milking the action all the way to the final buzzer. 0-2 to start the season, not what they would have wanted.

11. Cougars
Previous ranking: 3
Cougars def by Slammers by 12
No other way to put this, but its an embarrassing loss for the Cougars. 28 turnovers. 21-61FG. You cant win games like that. Import Morant putting up 4pts 7rb and 7 turnovers in 15 minutes off the bench. ouch. Field only managing 5 minutes in this one. Suspect this would be an injury of some description. Numerous guys playing minutes with little to no production. Hunt, Clarke, Pond and Stewart really not giving them much of anything in this game. Shows how precarious things are for them if Field is not on the floor.

12. Eagles
Previous ranking: 11
Eagles def Suns by 16, Eagles def by Senators by 16
Verdict is still out for the Eagles with me. Beating the Suns who are not at full strength is not really convincing. Were never in the Senators game. Grace playing in 8 mins against the suns and was not on the roster vs Senators. Did he get injured? Great to see the Eagles honour the late Peter Campbell, one of the true gentlemen in the game, naming their main court after him and seeing the effort they have put in to renovate the court. Hopefully they can turn the corner and be more competitive soon.

13. Suns
Previous ranking: 8
Suns def by Eagles by 16
Losing to the Eagles by double digits at home. disappointing loss against a team largely believed to be in disarray after being at least competitive with the Hawks the week before. Suns only managing 7 free throw attempts for the entire game. Hitting 3 of them. They had 19 more FG attempts than the Eagles. Huntington and Salinas look like they just cant contribute what they used to be able to. Salinas putting up 0 points on 0-6 shooting in 30 mins of play. Huntington putting up 2 points on 1-5 shooting, 0 rebounds in over 19 minutes of play. Hard to win games with production like that from 2 of your key players. Really at this point in their careers should be coming off the bench in support roles rather than big minute starting 5 guys.

14. Redbacks
Previous ranking: 12
Redbacks def by Magic by 3
Its ugly right now. Currently 0-2 at the bottom of the ladder. On paper they have a roster one would expect to be at least a playoff team. Looking a long way off that right now. In a 1 possession game with the Magic to get near on nothing from their bench would be hugely disappointing for them. Anyone know what is happening with Timms?

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MaxM  
Earlier this year

Senators still have Zac Gattorna to come in as well

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Thanks Max
Not sure how I overlooked this haha
thats a good piece.

Still something inside tells me they need a PG.

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John Bagley  
Earlier this year

Now that I have seen most teams, and who is still to come in.......

1. Buccs
Defending champs. Didn't have their #1 scorer and still beat a full strength Tigers. So I can't think of a reason they shouldn't be #1.

2. Wolves
Already looking strong and they still have Wade and Coombs to be added. Scary.

3. Senators
They should lead the league in scoring this year, and still have Gattorna to come in. But like Boomer said, the backcourt is susceptible and is probably why they are #3 and not #1.

4. Flames
Like the 3 teams above them, they still have a major piece to join the line-up (Dove).

** Note **
The top-4 teams are a class-above, and all have significant players who haven't played yet.
I will be very surprised if any of these 4 teams are not top-4 by season end.


5. Giants
Almost could say they have the best import combo in the league. Bell knows how to score and Parsons reminds me of a top-of-his-game Brian Voelkel.

6. Magic
The biggest improvers, and as some would say, the biggest surprise. Goes to show you what having a couple of good imports (alongside a couple of very good Aussie scorers) can to do a team.

7. Tigers
Solid line-up, and the addition of Nelson makes them a top-8 team. However their bigs could be their achilles heel. An aging Vigor will miss games, it's a certainty. Which leaves Gak, who only managed 12 rebounds in the first 2 games.

8. Hawks
Typical unspectacular, boring Hawks line-up, but that's not a bad thing. The post-Parsons/post-Purser era means a reset, but they will still be thereabouts.

9. Slammers
Another big improver, and they will trouble some teams. When was the last time they made the playoffs? Around the Tre Nichols time I reckon.

10. Redbacks
Some are saying their team is good on paper. But is it? I've dissected it and I don't believe so. Maybe the pre-season hype was unjustified.

11. Lightning
Will live and die off the hand of Adewunmi. He was contained against the Giants and they struggled. More of a worry is that their frontcourt is weak. Yes, Davey is a beast but they have him running positions 1 through 5. He's really just a 3/4.

12. Eagles
Ditto Redbacks.

13. Cougars
Field is a shadow, Armour is a shadow, Vague is a 3/4 playing the 5. Import is a dud. Do they have a second import coming?

14. Suns
Two thirds of their best 10 are in the latter stages of their careers, or should have already retired. Do they have another import, or is that Michaels?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Predictions for this weekend?

The pressure mounts on Lakeside, Redbacks, Eagles?

Can the Cougars import actually play?

Cant wait to see Dove and Tuss in action!!!

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Predictions NBL1 West Men Round 3

Friday: Hawks v Flames @ Bendat
Flames by 12
Flames too deep and too experienced. Unsure if Dove is making his debut or not but even if he doesnt Gak and Durnin too much for the Hawks interior. Walker is just a class above Abrom.

Friday: Lightning v Magic @ Lakeside
Magic by 11
Lightning dont match up well on the Magic. They lack a real PG and the Magic just brought in a stud at the point position. Im a big murray fan already. The other weakness for the Lightning is they have been getting smacked on the glass. Durr is a beast inside and the combination of Murray and Durr will cause big problems.

Friday: Tigers v Redbacks @ The Boulevard
Tigers by 10
Tigers coming off a close loss to the Buccs on the road last week will be keen to get back in the winners column. Redbacks dont have anywhere near the backcourt the Tigers have and I suspect it will be Dupree, Nelson and Scott that really cause them problems.

Saturday: Redbacks v Eagles @ Belmont
Redbacks by 3 on OT
This is the tale of two teams who are struggling. Redbacks to eek out their first win of the season at home.

Saturday: Slammers v Buccs @ Eaton
Buccs by 20
Just too much firepower and too much experience. Will Braun play?

Saturday: Cougars v Suns @ Wally Hagan
Cougars by 5
Both teams have issues right now. Father time being one. Going with the home court team in this one and picking Hunt to have a big one.

Saturday: Giants v Wolves @ the Palace (Kal) *Boomers game of the week*
Giants by 6
Wolves to get their first taste of a legit team in the 24 season and the travel and Kal crowd equates for a good 8-10 points on the scoreboard. Elliott v Bell will be a nice matchup to watch. Parsons and Davis also. Unsure when Coombes is due to join the team or when Wade is back. For now I think the Giants might have just a little more to go with.

Saturday: Flames v Senators @ The hot house
Flames by 4
Senators were VERY lucky to get out of jail last week against the Hawks. Facing the Flames on their home court they wont have that luxury. When will Gattorna join the Senators? Walker v Harris will be fun.

Sunday: Magic v Buccs @ Mandurah Aquatic
Magic by 3
Both teams on the back of a double header. Buccs have a heck of a weekend going to Eaton and Mandurah. Much like the case with the Lightning, the Buccs dont have the best matchups for the Magic. Not having Stewart or Meunier this year leaves some big gaps in the back court. Hunt and Wunderboy have work cut out with Durr. Molnar and Pesava will have to be firing for the magic also. Home court advantage might get them across the line here.

Predicted Player of the Week: Joel Murray (Magic)


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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Watching the Lakeside v Magic game! What a mess! Lakeside all out of sorts, really missing a real PG!- Coach Mike looks completely checked out too, not even getting his team fired up! Time for him to move on I think- they need a new voice!

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Yeah Lakeside were all over the place. I agree TT a good PG is in need... much like the Redbacks. Mandurah are big improvers this season

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Pasadena 72  
Earlier this year

Will Gattorna play tonight? Be a great game if he does. Always interested to see Harris play after he dominated in Adelaide a few years ago.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Hopefully Gattorna plays tonight. The Flames are at full strength now. The Senators will certainly need him with Gak & Dove inside. I watched the game last night. Dove was a little tentative in the first half being his first game in a new team. He started to click in the second half.

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Hopefully Wade suits up for the Wolves tonight. I doubt Combs will play. I know his last game in Japan was last weekend so not likely he would be cleared to play even if he has joined the team. Looking forward to seeing the Giant's imports tonight. They have been killing it so far.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

The Cougars pulled off a tight one- Armor looking good- bet you Lakeside and MM regret not resigning him! BIG MIStAKE
Did the Cougars release Morant already or is he injured?

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

NBL1 West Power Rankings - Round 3

1. Wolves
Previous ranking: 1
Wolves def Giants by 10
After grinding with the Giants in the first half, the Wolves found their mojo in the 4th q. Turnage after being quiet in the first half came out firing later in the game and looked like a different player. Turnage is leading the league in scoring at 33ppg and the wolves remain one of 3 undefeated teams. Still no sign of Wade and Combs still to come in. I predicted a close loss for the Wolves this weekend and currently calmly eating my humble pie. Kudos to the Wolves on weathering the road trip, bumpy first half and still being without 2 of their main guys to get a solid win.


2. Flames
Previous ranking: 3
Flames def Hawks by 10 and Senators by 22
Dove now in the lineup and providing them some nice punch off the bench. Expect that to change at some point in the future and either Durnin or Beard move to the bench. Short rotations for Petrik to get the job done mainly running with 7 guys. My concern for this group is can Godfrey sustain playing over 30 mins a game and stay healthy? Backup PG Hill isnt playing big minutes and theres not much else on the bench that would meet the expectations of playing big mins in this group. Gak is just off to a flyer averaging 23ppg and 12rb. He seems to be relishing the system and guys around him at the Flames. Walker looking ominous. Flames have patches where they just suffocate the opposing team defensively. As much as everyone notices their offensive firepower they have the ability to choke teams at the defensive end too. Currently 5-0.


3.Buccs
Previous ranking: 4
Buccs def Slammers by 8 and Magic by 1
Buccs remain undefeated after a crazy ending to the Magic game. Bertram hitting a 3 to put the magic up by 1 with 14 seconds remaining, followed by Keyes being fouled on a 3 point attempt and knocking down 2 of his free throws to go up by 2 with 9 seconds left. Magic missing a 3 to win the game on the buzzer. Still no Braun for the Buccs. Definitely adjusting to the new lineup with Stewart and Meunier gone. Keyes, Narkle and Hunt power the buccs scoring. Some nice contribution by young Griechen off the bench. Slammers gave the buccs a fight but the buccs showed their experience and depth to cruise in to an 8 point win. Tough double header but 2 wins for the boys in blue.


4. Senators
Previous ranking: 2
Senators def by Flames by 22
Need. Gattorna. Now. Starting to get exposed for depth, especially inside without him. The Flames dominated the Senators on the glass. I picked the Flames to get them but not to blow them out! England, Ellis and Pearl gave them good bench production but outside of Withers and Harris, none of their other starters give them much scoring wise. Really seem to be feeling the pinch at the PG spot also. Berry has some potential but is not established as one of the top tier PG's yet. Big year of learning for him. Does Cooper have any late signings up his sleeve? They sure could use another key guy!


5. Magic
Previous ranking: 6
Magic def Lightning by 24, Magic def by Buccs by 1
Tough way to not walk out with 2 wins this weekend. As expected, they belted the Lightning. Backcourt was too powerful and got to the FT line for 31 attempts to the lightnings 16. Statistically were very good, only committing 7 turnovers and shooting 52%FG abd winning the rebounding count. Utley is a big Corey Easley fan having coached him at Kalamunda and has pulled him out of retirement. Teaming him up with Dion Collins off the bench they could quite possibly take the award for the slowest bench frontcourt in the league. Easley would have to be in his 40's now? Molnar was again really good for the Magic this weekend. Im looking forward to watching this team live soon.

6. Tigers
Previous ranking: 7
Tigers def Redbacks by 20
Did what they should have. Tigers running with 9 guys in their main rotation in this one and the scoring spread was outstanding. Everyone contributed. No Williams in the lineup this weekend too.


7. Giants
Previous ranking 5
Giants def by Wolves by 10
Would be disappointed with this result. It was a chance to really announce to the league they are a team to be reckoned with on their home floor. To be up by 6 at 3 quarter time and lose by double digits, only managing 13 points for the 4th is not the way they would have seen that playing out. Parsons is emerging as an MVP candidate, stuffing the stat sheet each week. Currently leading league in assists and averaging 19.6ppg, 10rb, 7as. Bell is a tough guard and is fitting in nicely. Really need to be able to close out a game like that to be a contender.


8. Hawks
Previous ranking: 8
Hawks def by Flames by 10
Abrom was horrible on Friday night and with the firepower the Flames have you cant afford for your 20ppg scorer to have an absolute shocker and win. The Hawks are expecting a lot out of the young Phillips brothers. Whilst not top tier starting 5 type guys at the moment, they are gaining invaluable experience in those roles. Nobensi as team captain is really struggling to give meaningful contribution at the moment. 1ppg, 2ass, 14%FG, 1.3to in 19mpg. Maybe more of a spiritual leader for the group than statistically? Floyd is handy in the mins hes giving them, probably deserves more. The Hawks rebuild after such a successful era under Parso and Purser was always going to be tough. They are at least a lot more competitive than other teams who have shelled out huge money for their rosters.


9. Slammers
Previous ranking: 9
Slammers def by Buccs by 8
The Slammers are definitely improved on previous years. Currently on 1 win and 3 losses, I anticipate them to rise in the power rankings over coming weeks. Their 3 losses have come by the hands of the Flames, Wolves and Buccs. The 3 best teams in the competition. It was a tied game at the half to the buccs and were only down by 4 heading into the 4th. Tuach is again leading the way for the southwest team but now has a bit more talent around him.


10. Cougars
Previous ranking: 11
Cougars def Suns by 4
Although its a win for the Cougars, its not one that really brings a huge amount of confidence for me. They were down the entire game and if not for a blistering 4th quarter they would not have snuck out this win. As predicted, Hunt with a big one off the bench, putting up 19pts to lead the scoring for the cougs. Chan in the lineup gave them another much needed piece. no Morant for the Cougs. Maybe on a plane back home? or injured?


11. Redbacks
Previous ranking: 14
Redbacks def by Tigers by 20 and def Eagles by 1
I predicted the L and the W correctly but definitely not the W in the circumstances they occurred in. There is only one way to explain this W for the Redbacks. The Eagles choked. HARD. The Redbacks down by 4 with 12 seconds to go following 2 made Free Throws by Sunday Dech for the Eagles. Dimakopoulos responded by making a 3 with 9 seconds remaining. A panicked turnover with 4 seconds remaining and a foul on Cook-Green sending him to the line where he made 2 free throws. The only reason the Redbacks move up 2 spots is because of how dismally poor the Eagles, Suns and Lightning were this weekend. Timms announced his retirement during the week which is a big blow to the Redbacks hopes of improving their lot.


12. Eagles
Previous ranking: 12
Eagles def by Redbacks by 1
Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory to one of the poorer performing teams in the competition. Big money on this roster. 2 imports in Young and Watson, 2 NBL players in Dech and Okwera and a bigtime scorer in Sebit Reath. How they are not able to get the job done in a game like this is baffling

13. Suns
Previous ranking: 13
Suns def by Cougars by 4
Led the whole game really. Have enough pieces to beat a team like Cougars. Currently 0-3 and have yet to play any real contenders losing to the Hawks, Eagles and Cougars. Buckle up lads, this is going to be a very very long year.


14. Lightning
Previous ranking: 10
Lightning def by Magic by 24
It was an ugly loss on their home floor. Just not able to compete. Down by 21 at the end of the 1st quarter and never recovered. Only managed 11 points in the 1st. Blackmon expensive with his points again shooting 30% from the floor. Adewunmi only playing 16 mins. I have been critical in previous reflections that the Lakeside bigs dont have much offensive presence in the paint and this game showed it. Of Davey's 18 shot attempts, 9 were from 3. Jackson shot 4 attempts with 2 of them being from 3. Parkinson normally known to be a stretch big only shot 1 of his 7 attempts from 3 which was against the trend of the other bigs. Without a legitimate PG and some true inside presence this team is going to continue to struggle. Currently 0-3 and still yet to play the top tier teams. It doesnt get any easier for them this weekend having to go up to Gero to face the undefeated buccs on their home floor.


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TW  
Earlier this year

Boomer- You called it. Murray player of the week

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Any know if Morant is injured or been fired already from the Cougars?

Grt work Boomer

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

Womens power rankings?

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eager_onlooker  
Earlier this year

GoodSoup - Rockingham then daylight, Joondalup then even more daylight, then throw a blanket.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Cougars??? Still have imports to arrive too!

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John Bagley  
Earlier this year

My rankings after Round 3.......

1. Buccaneers (last week 1st)
Tough roadtrip, and against 2 teams who are not lemons. Passed the test, and still have Braun to come into the line-up.

2. Wolves (2nd)
Better for the run after a difficult game in Kalgoorlie. And like the Buccs, have impact players to come in.

3. Flames (4th)
Move up a spot with the addition of Dove. Interestingly match-up against Willetton this week. How will Nelson be welcomed?

4. Senators (3rd)
Are 3-1 but their wins haven't been convincing, and their loss was a big one. Still waiting on Gattorna, and an away double-header this week could tell us whether they are still worthy of a top-4 ranking.

5. Magic (6th)
Certainly no flash in the pan this year, and they keep taking scalps. Unlucky to not give the defending champs their first loss. A tough double this weekend where will will probably see them go 1-1.

6. Tigers (7th)
Nelson gives them that edge, and despite not having a true PG, their backcourt is loaded with Dupree, Scott and Nelson. However still one injury away from disaster with their bigs.

7. Giants (5th)
Were the better team for 35mins against the Wolves, but capitulated in the 4th. Need to beat the Slammers at home this week to show that they are worthy of a playoff-bound team.

8. Hawks (8th)
Were outgunned by the Flames but have a chance against the Redbacks and Eagles this weekend to right the ship. With other teams looking over their shoulder, if they fail, they're out of the rankings top-8.

9. Slammers (9th)
Would be disappointed in their loss to a not-at-full-strength Buccs team. Another tough one this week with a trip to Kalgoorlie. Does this trip define their credentials?

10. Cougars (13th)
Back on the winning list, but it was a close one against an ordinary Suns team. Still not very convincing but their line-up seems to be a tad better than the rabble below them.

11. Eagles (12th)
Showing signs and have a point to prove at home against the Hawks this week. On paper they have a better line-up than PL, so a loss means they a deserved of a bottom-4 ranking.

12. Redbacks (10th)
They drop below the Eagles despite beating them last week. This is because they were at home and should have done a lot better than a 1-point win, which was after getting thumped by Willetton the night before.

13. Lightning (11th)
Certainly not seeing a Lakeside team we are historically used to. And it gets worse as I expect they won't compete with the Buccs up in Gero on Saturday night. In fact it could get ugly.

14. Suns (14th)
Still at the bottom, but a good showing against the Senators and Redbacks this weekend could move them up a notch or two.

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Aza  
Earlier this year

Do the mens predictions above, factor in

Mandurahs imports

East Perth missing 2 starters

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Boomer  
Earlier this year

Predictions NBL1 West Men Round 4

Friday: Flames v Tigers @ Hothouse
Flames by 12
This should be an interesting game on a number of levels. Nelson's first game against his old club. Things reportedly didn't end well there. Petrik having an in-depth knowledge of Nelson's strength and weaknesses will look to really limit Nelson's impact on this game. Gak brothers facing each other. Gorjak facing his old team and matching up on his brother will make for an entertaining battle. Im not betting against the 5-0 Flames at full strength on their home floor.


Friday: Hawks v Redbacks @ Bendat
Hawks by 5
Im giving this one to the Hawks being on their home floor. Hawks have a little more firepower than the Redbacks offensively too. This is a critical game for the Redbacks. Last weeks get out of jail in the last 12 seconds was incredible but not something that gives me confidence they have turned a corner.

Friday: Magic v Cougars @ Mandurah Aquatic
Magic by 15
This is a bad bad matchup for the Cougars. Vulnerable inside and aging Armour and Field required to keep up with the likes of Murray, Pesava, Bertram and Molnar all in their prime. Hunt may need to be inserted into the starting lineup and have a lot more offense run through him if they are to have any chance here. I just dont see them being able to hang.


Friday: Suns v Senators @ Ray Owen
Senators by 10
Suns are just old and shorthanded when it comes to their roster. Huntington and Salinas could be in their final seasons. Michaels needs to have over 40 for them to be in the mix offensively. When you look at the wins the Suns had last year that was pretty much the scenario with Cook-Green dropping 40-50pts. Hes gone and Michaels isnt that guy. Withers and Harris will have a field day.


Saturday: Buccs v Lightning @ Active West
Buccs by 30
This is a conservative estimate on the margin. I wouldnt be suprised if its more.

Saturday: Eagles v Hawks @ Morley Rec
Hawks by 5
Another tight contest expected here by two lower tier teams. will be an imortant win for either team to chalk up given how they have both started their seasons.


Saturday: Redbacks v Suns @ Belmont
Redbacks by 3
Im trying to figure out who is going to handle the back end of the double header best. Im going with the younger Redbacks.


Saturday: Tigers v Senators @ The Boulevarde
Tigers by 7
I think the Tiges will have a little more depth to their roster and being at home should get this dub.

Saturday: Wolves v Magic @ HBF *Boomers game of the week*
Magic by 5
Elliott v Murray worth the price of admission alone. Turnage is going to have his work cut out and will need to get his average and more for the wolves to get this one. If Combs is cleared will make for a very nice matchup between he and Durr. Both teams have some nice additional options with the Magic having just a little more for me with Molnar, Pesava and Bertram. Wolves with Davis.

Saturday: Giants v Slammers @ Niels Hansen
Giants by 5
Slammers are a tougher opponent this year but its a tough ask to go out into the desert and win in a hostile environment. The Giants will be out for revenge after last weeks 4th quarter fade out. Tuach will have his numbers but will the other guys be able to provide meaningful production? Richardson looking as out of shape as ever and still playing big minutes.


Predicted Player of the Week: Todd Withers (Senators)

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JT  
Earlier this year

How long is it before Marty Zeller is asked to coach the Men's team at Lakeside as well as the women’s ?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Hey JT, after this weekend I hope!. Heard he has is outta favour with the club at the moment. Marty is such an amazing coach and can really communicate with his players.

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JT  
Earlier this year

Marty would certainly shake some things up for the better with the Lakesode Men's

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

We can only hope, JT. After another crushing defeat from Gero, it seems likely the only option is to pray for some kind of miracle next week. Word has it that his "influence" has seeped into the WABL program, leaving all the teams underperforming and looking very weak.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

At the Magic x Cougs game- Morant back in the lineup- must have been injured last week. Looks a tad undersized!

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

I went to the Hawks vs Redbacks game. Gee the Redbacks chemistry is really bad. Everyone is frustrated. Body language is negative. Players getting subbed out just when they were starting to impact the game. Players were asking why they were subbed. I think a new coach is on the cards next season as I feel he's lost the team already.

I spoke with big Ioannis' family after the game and they said he is really frustrated with the team. He's such a high IQ passer but he hardly get's the ball because "point guard" Tevin Jackson just dribbles into the key and puts up forced shots. He get's his numbers in the end but to the detriment of the team.

The Hawks were up by 20 points and nearly blew it again in Q4 as the Redback got within 6 with 2 mins remaining.

Looking forward to watching the Wolves vs Magic game tomorrow... Go Wolfpack!!

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

gee whizz you wouldn't want to be Rendulic or Nixy. Showing the league big budgets don’t mean much if you can’t coach. Those records are fire able on those budgets

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Do you know what their budget is, or are you making an assumption?

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JT  
Earlier this year

@TrevorTorrance.. let's talk observable fact.. Marty's track record in Australia previously is amazing, he has directly and indirectly (through coaches he mentored) put dozens of players in the NBL1, NBL,NCAA and many other professional leagues throughout the world. Laid the foundations for the team of the 90’s Souwest Slammers.
The man’s track record is amazing. It’s only a matter of time before all and sundry realise he is the best coach in WA by far!

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Billy Bob  
Earlier this year

It's ok. Awesome social media productions, that’s what really matters these days right?

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Agree JT and he is super nice dude with great energy and is such a positive force to be around.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Being able to coach in the 90's and 30 years later are not the same
In three games they’ve looked very ordinary with a couple of wins against bad teams or what was Willettons d league team

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

Has the FIRE #mikemallat chant started yet? They should have won that game- Gero was really off in Q3 and they should have capitalised on that. Really missing Ro and Kyle too!

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JT  
Earlier this year

@Bohemian... pass the blunt! He had his best 4 players missing against Williston and still doesn't have his full lineup. Stay off the mushies bro

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

HAHAHA JT you must be joking

They lost to Mandurah without Jones. Benn and Gowland do not count

Mandurah are not good. Willetton are worse especially the round one D league team

Lakeside are a 5-6 playoff team at best and 7-9 worst.

Marty also mediocre at best

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GoodSoup  
Earlier this year

by the way no team has their full lineup.. that isn't stopping warwick or cougars from losing to bad teams.

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

So we all love MM and think he doing an amazing job with the Men? C'mon- Dude can't coach and needs to be replaced asap!

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John Bagley  
Earlier this year

My rankings after Round 4.......

1. Buccaneers (last week 1st) 4-0
Still winning, still #1. Braun now in the line-up and also Fletcher Klasztorny suited up for his first game. Are Braun's 12mins of playing time a concern? Or had he just arrived? Their meeting this weekend with arch rivals the Giants should be Game of the Week.

2. Wolves (2nd) 4-0
Made a statement against the Magic with a 40+ win. Wade's influence obviously was important, but Coombs is no longer showing up on their team list on the NBL1 website. Is he still playing for them? They head down to Bunbury this week for what could be a nuisance game for them, against a nuggety Slammers line-up.

3. Flames (3rd) 5-1
Wouldn't have expected that home loss to the Tigers, but any team would have struggled against Willetton's offence last week, particularly from downtown. That said, they're still 5-1 and should comfortably account for the Cougars on Saturday night.

4. Tigers (6th) 4-1
Last week I said that the Tigers' back-court was loaded, and it was on full display against the Flames. A combined 65 points from Dupree and Nelson is tough - geez, the Magic as a team scored less than that against Joondalup. A pair of wins this week against the Suns and Eagles should see them advance to 6-1, and they will move up the rankings if Rocko falter against Cockburn.

5. Giants (7th) 2-2
Have the advantage of teams immediately around them falling over last week, so really move up to 5th by default. That said, it was a solid win over an underrated Slammers outfit. This weekend they have the toughest roadtrip in the NBL1 this year (nationwide) - up in Geraldton on Saturday night and then have to be down at Belmont for a 1.00pm game on Sunday. By my calculations that is 2000km+ and two games in the space of 16 hours. A split will be a massive win for them, but two losses won't be embarrassing.

6. Magic (5th) 3-4
Wouldn't be happy with their thrashing to the hands of the Wolves, after a solid win the night before. Let's blame fatigue, and against a very good Joondalup team who were fresh. And also not having Joel Murray who was out of the line-up due to a nasty face-plant the night before. Also Pesava missed both games. Should get past the Hawks this week if Murray and Pesava play, but if they're both still out, it becomes a 50/50 game.

7. Senators (4th) 3-3
Continuing their slide down the rankings after starting the season 3-0. Finished last weekend with a pair of 100-90 losses, which is not something you see every day. Just don't appear to have a quality starting big who can take the spotlight off their shooters - opposition teams can just extend their defence. Is Gattorna even suiting up for them, or was that clickbait?

8. Slammers (9th) 1-4
Took it too the Giants in Kalgoorlie but ran out of scoring options in the last. They can score, and the only reason they are 1-4 is that 4 of their 5 games have been against 4 of the top 5 teams - Buccs, Wolves, Flames & Giants. And three of those on the road. Surely it gets easier from here, and its starts with the Lightning on Friday night. Its a big game because it will actually show us their real credentials.

9. Eagles (11th) 2-3
Are we finally starting to see the true Eagles? On paper they have a top-8 team but paper can be screwed up very easy. Are Reath and Okwera the best big man pairing in the league? They manhandled a small Hawks line-up, and their starting-5 out-rebounded the Perry Lakes starters by 38 to 15. Have a tough one at Willetton this week, but against a Tigers line-up that has limited big man depth.

10. Cougars (10th) 2-2
Stayed with the Magic for most of the game, who were missing Pesava. But is this their line-up?? They're old and slow and need a Joel Murray/Randy Bell type. Morant is a waste of space and they need to swap him for a scoring guard or swingman. Though not ideal, their bigs can be covered with Vague, Pond and Field. It doesn't get any easier this week with a trip down to Rockingham.

11. Hawks (8th) 2-3
Is it just me, or are we all missing that pain-in-the-arse, nuisance Hawks team that always seem to over-perform each season? They are living and dying off the performances of Dequan Abrom at the moment, but he is hit and miss. We saw that at the Magic and probably one of the reasons they didn't get him back. And why is Vaiangina not starting? He is their best big but played just 17mins off the bench against the Eagles. This is despite scoring 25pts the night before against the Redbacks. Something is not adding up. Will struggle on Friday if Mandurah roll up with their full line-up. And might struggle against Lakeside on Saturday.

12. Redbacks (12th) 2-4
Back to the winning list with a win over the Suns, but let's be honest here - it was just the 13th-ranked Suns. Narrowly went down to the Hawks the night before, but again, this is the 11th-ranked Hawks we are talking about. So nothing from last weekend really tells us they are better than 12th. This week is a big test. They have a struggling Senators on Saturday night, and then double-up with a Sunday afternoon clash at home against what should be a very weary Giants line-up. If they cannot at least split this weekend, they deserve to stay in the bottom three.

13. Suns (14th) 1-4
Broke their duck with an upset win over the Senators, before taking it to the Redbacks the following night in a high-scoring affair. There is certainly a pulse, and their experienced line-up will help get them the odd upset this year, but that won't be enough to get them into playoff territory. Unfortunately though this week, they might be brought back down to earth by the Tigers on Anzac Day.

14. Lightning (13th) 0-4
Surprisingly held their own against the Buccs last week, only trailing by 5 points at the last break, before getting run over in the last quarter. However I do credit a lot of that showing to the 18-point/19-rebound game of Josh Davey. At 6-6" he is always coming up against bigger players, so does any forward in the league work any harder? Would the Lakeside coaches be worried about Mike Adewunmi? After scoring a round-high 38pts in week one, he has only amassed a combined 33 points in his next 3 games. He looks like the only Lightning player who could win a game off his back, but 11ppg in his last three isn't going to get the bickies.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Earlier this year

Where's Woj bomb with his women’s updates

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TrevorTorrance  
Earlier this year

I heard that Mike Adewunmi hasn't had a car the past few weeks, as it broke down, so that could be the issue, as he doesn't have his creature comforts, someone at his level deserves! Needs a breakout game this week!

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Andrew  
Earlier this year

Combs team in Japan has made finals so his arrival has been delayed. Quarter finals last week.. Semi's this weekend. If they lose I would expect he will be on a flight next week.

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Angry Ant  
Earlier this year

What's happening in Kalgoorlie, men's coach flew out of town early in the week and the female assistant stepping up for this weekend.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Angry Ant

Wife is having some health issues so he has flow to be with her, might be for another week or so.

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radar  
Earlier this year

have watched many imports come into this league over the years but joel murray would have to be one of the best we have seen in a number of years .if mandurah can get to 10-12 wins he wins the M.V.P

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Boomer  
Two months ago

NBL1 West Power Rankings - Round 5

Apologies for the hiatus on the last round for predictions and power rankings. Back on deck for round 5 and 6.

1. Wolves
Previous ranking: 1
Wolves def Slammers by 20
End result is probably what everyone was expecting. A blowout win to Wolves. Turnage and Jurlina doing most of the damage. Good to see some minutes finally coming to Chadinha. Been a great young player in D League for a number of years. Wolves remain undefeated at 5-0.

2. Buccs
Previous ranking: 3
Buccs def Giants by 2 in OT
It was a Ralph 3-point buzzer beater that hit the rim, bounced off the top of the backboard and went in that sent the game to OT. Some may think a controversial no-call but according to the FIBA rules is the correct ruling. Its always a spirited game between the Buccs and Giants and for the Buccs to hold on and grind out the OT win on their home court to remain undefeated is huge. Not just for the bragging rights but for solidifying the newly built roster for the Buccs. Yes there are some stalwart guys in there but a good chunk of their main rotation is new. A win like this really brings belief and confidence for a team.


3.Tigers
Previous ranking: 6
Tigers def Suns by 26 and Eagles by 2
Its been a heck of a fortnight for the Boulevarde Boys going 4-0 in back to back double headers. The Tigers kicked off their streak with a huge win against the Flames, handing them their first loss of the season. Then backed it up with a double digit win against the Senators. They carried their momentum into this week and reeled off another 2 wins against the Suns and Eagles. Dupree has been electric for the Tigers. He and Nelson making for a super explosive back court. Vigor putting up good numbers and fits the system Nener is running really well. Young Ibukunoluwa has been giving them good minutes off the bench. Tigers now sitting 3rd on the ladder.

4.Flames
Previous ranking: 2
Flames def Cougars by 8
The drop in the rankings is due to their loss last week against the Tigers. Hard to retain them at 2nd when they are no longer undefeated and the Buccs are and the Tigers having the same record as them now and the team that handed them their only loss. After being down to the Cougars by 1 at half time the Flames made some adjustments and really choked the cougars in the 3rd only giving up 12 points. Walker, Gak and Beard led the way for the Flames. Dove and new import Janssen were quiet. Will be a nice rotation once they are both settled.

5. Magic
Previous ranking: 5
Magic def Hawks by 16
After their 45 point shallacking to Wolves last week, the Magic bounced back for a comfortable win against the Hawks. No Murray or Pesava against the Wolves which goes to show how much they rely particularly on Murray. The Magic are currently sitting at 4-4 but have played the Flames, Buccs and Wolves already. They will have a bit of an easier schedule playing more of the lower ranked teams in the coming month or so. Expect them to be well above .500 if Murray, Durr and Molnar can all stay healthy.

6. Senators
Previous ranking: 4
Senators def Redbacks by 46
Whilst this week they destroyed their opponent, they did drop a game to Suns last week which they shouldnt have. The Senators continue to be without Gattorna. Harris and Withers continue to lead the way for the Senators with England having his best year in the league coming off the bench.

7. Hawks
Previous ranking 8
Hawks def Lightning by 7
Whilst the Hawks lost to the Eagles by a big margin last week they did hand Redbacks another loss and beat a full strength lightning this week. Abrom led the way for the Hawks with 34 against Lakeside and had good support from Leary and Luke Phillips on the bench. Key hasnt put up the numbers I expected him to so far this season. If the Hawks can get him going they should squeak out a few more wins.

8. Eagles
Previous ranking: 12
Eagles def by Tigers by 2
Are in better form of late. Jump in the rankings reflects their 1-1 record the last fortnight (and other teams results). Tough one to go down to the Tigers by 1 possession. It was a hectic final minute of play with the Eagles tying the game with less than a minute left. Tigers taking the lead off a Williams basket, quickly followed by a game tying layup from Dech. Williams again giving the Tigers the lead hitting 2 free throws with less than 10 seconds on the clock. The Eagles just not being able to get over the line with a late turnover in the last possession. Will be looking forward to seeing Roberts join the team in the not too distant future.

9. Redbacks
Previous ranking: 11
Redbacks def by Senators by 46 and def Giants by 5
The jump reflects their 2-2 record over the last 2 weeks (and other teams results). The most hyped team on social media in the offseason has struggled to find the form they desire. The Giants win is a solid one but are lucky to get them on the back end of a double header where they played them after playing in Geraldton the night before. Can Nixy do some mid-season recruiting to bolster his roster?

10. Giants
Previous ranking: 7
Giants def by Buccs by 2 and def by Redbacks by 5
Horror road trip for the Giants having to play in Gero on Saturday night and then in Perth on Sunday. Both close games and both losses. Heartbreaker losing in OT on the road in Gero. This would have been a huge win for their confidence had they been able to pull it off. Very impressed with Parsons so far this season. Fills the stat sheet every week. Currently averaging 21.7ppg, 9.8rb and 5.8as 55%FG. Randy Bell having an off game against the Redbacks going 3-15 from the floor really hurt their chances of getting the W there.
Were without their Head Coach this week with AC Sharni Winter stepping up to the plate to Head Coach her first NBL1 games. Im sure she will remember that Gero one for a long time! Im not sure on my SBL/NBL1 West history here but would be interesting to know if she is the first female to Head Coach mens games at this level in WA? Someone like Lukosius would be able to enlighten us! Havent seen him on this forum though.

11. Suns
Previous ranking: 13
Suns def by Tigers by 26
If Michaels isn't firing on all cylinders the Suns have no chance of winning. This was the case against the Tigers. The jump in ranking reflects their 1-2 record the last fortnight (and other teams results) with the big win against Senators going in their favour. Michaels going for 29 in that one. The Suns may be better served playing some of their younger up and coming kids and getting them acclimated to the level this year rather than playing guys like Huntington and Salinas who are well past their prime.

12. Lightning
Previous ranking: 14
Lightning def Slammers by 9 and def by Hawks by 7
The Lightning managed to get their first win of the season, against the weakest team in the competition. Nothing convincing given it was only a single digit win. It is enough to move them up a couple of spots in the rankings given other teams results. Adewunmi has had a slide and a half from his first game. Having watched him play in round 1 and seeing his skill set I am suprised he has struggled as much as he has since. Theres no other way of putting it other than he is underperforming. Averaging 11.6ppg over the last 5 games. 34.8%FG. Against the Slammers he shot 1-10 from the floor. Blackmon hasnt been much better averaging 18.3ppg at 37.8%FG. Hard to win games with your imports being so inefficient. Bit of pressure mounting down at Bibra Lake with arguably their worst start to a season in their history. Suns next week followed by Tigers, Flames and Giants in Kal. They would want to get that Suns win desperately because they are likely to go 0-3 after that.

13. Cougars
Previous ranking: 10
Cougars def by Flames by 8
Hunt has been their best local by a long way. In the starting lineup now with Armour coming off the bench in this one. The Cougars to me need to send their import home and try again. Has not scored more than 4 points in a game and averaging 17mpg. Cougars need Scoring! Vague has been solid but needs help. Field is aging. Armour aging. Clarke is averaging 3ppg. Its not a winning formula.


14. Slammers
Previous ranking: 9
Slammers def by Lightning by 9 and Wolves by 20
Tuach continues to be the man in the southwest. just needs help.

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TW  
Two months ago

What's going on in Rockingham? Womens team are flying (obviously) and the men’s looks like a mess. Does Walker even want to be there? Crowd numbers are down. Atmosphere is nothing like it was.

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Woj Bomb  
Two months ago

NBL 1 Women - 13 Burning Questions
Rockingham – Taking care of teams without Sharp and Whitcomb, they have depth, team work and buy in. Will they bring in an import (Ryan?) or is this the team?

Senators – 8-1 – gone under the radar early this season, Forster's team now ably support by Barr in the back court. Adding Marena Whittle in the next week or two post 3x3. Does the team have bench depth?

Wolves 5-1 This is simple where is Emma Clarke? The MVP level wing changes this team dramatically. I love their PG Darien Huff and Toeaina is the best two way player in the league.

Cougars 5-2, dropped a couple of early games but have talent coming in soon with Blazejewski another weapon off a deep bench, How many games does Edwards miss?

Lightning 4-2, Welcome back Katie Jones, this is a fun team to watch, they will push most teams, Morrell/Jones combo will be very good, Does the team have anyone outside the starters that can help them lock in a top 4 spot come end of season?

Hawks 6-3, this is simple to coach Mansfield, will he bring in a second import? Losing Jayda Clark in game 1 for season is devastating, the team is pretty good but does a second stud put this team into championship contention.

Tigers 4-3, I would ask what happened to Imani Guy? But let’s not. Parker has retooled well post the end of season exodus and the Jacob twins have added speed, length and athleticism. Can Brcanovic win MVP? If she does this team is top 4. Waite, Newton and C Jacobs gives them a solid 8 player rotation.

Redbacks 4-5, early form not too much of worry with Maley soon to be back for the rest of the season. The team is small across the board and really need one of their guards to catch fire. Can Hartree compete with this year’s bigs?

Magic 2-6, fall from grace from last years semi-finalists. What did coach Alava step on? Injuries to 3 starters Richards, Fransson and Dale hurts. Roscoe expected soon and well needed. Do they have enough games to catch up to the top 6?

Giants 1-6, seam to of already missed with their import pairing already at this stage of the season, need more out of Fech. Can they win 4 games? Nice pick up in Jahzmin Joson.

Eagles 1-6, am I missing something here, two import bigs, WNBL development player, Former WNBL player and a solid NZ guard and they are 1 and 6? Goulding has been amazing in her come back year. Hawthorne can be dominant. It’s simple can Sara Allen take this team into the top 8?

Suns 1-6, Sears has been solid with her new team at 17ppg, the team took a couple of risks on Fotu and Berry returning from a long term injury. Is there a new import on her way?

Slammers 0-8, two imports to start the year and Chervelle Cox now missing, injured? Team is back to being smashed but my single question here is why did they not sign talented local Tiahna Sears?


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koberulz  
Two months ago

Ryan is coming in for Rocko once she finishes up in Sweden, Emma Clarke is injured.

Is Maley back for the rest of the season? Surely the Olympics lead to an early departure?

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West Whisper  
Two months ago

Grand Finals to be played at RAC Arena .. womens and men's games back to back on the same night. Great job BWA.

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Andrew  
Two months ago

Great news about RAC Arena. NBL1 is going from strength to strength.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Very positive move by the NBL1 West!

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

It could be a huge attendance depending on the matchup, like Wolves vs. someone in the men's.

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West Whisper  
Two months ago

Hearing rumours of problems down in Mandurah between players and board members. Not enough money being spent to make the team(s) championship contenders. Awkward for that one current player who is also on the board. When will the dramas ever end down there?

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

yeah if its Rocko, Courgars, Willo it will be a huge attendance

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Andrew  
Two months ago

Buccs fans show up in numbers for grand finals games too. I seriously don't want to hear sweet caroline this year though.

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Lot of empty seats at the Den

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

I seriously don't want to hear sweet caroline this year though.

This has spread like a virus throughout all sports for whatever reason, for decades it was a purely Boston Red Sox thing. Cringeworthy and bizarre copycat-ing.

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Andrew  
Two months ago

The last two Wolves grandfinals appearances have ended with sweet caroline playing at full volume. Even hearing the song brings back PTSD for me as a wolves fan ha ha

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Even if they had have won the same song would be played. Lazy DJing.

Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon should be our tune. AH-WOO!

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Andrew  
Two months ago

I thought Sweet Caroline was the Buccs song hahahahah....

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Andrew  
Two months ago

I just hope that they don't accidentally show the film clip of the Wolves song The Big Bad Wolf by Duck Sauce. Will have the kids asking some questions ha ha

Werewolves of London by Warren Zevon would be cool

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Andrew  
Two months ago

Went to the Senators vs Cougars tonight. Cougars were pretty bad. Their import looks like he doesn't want to be there judging by his body language. Many of the players seem frustrated and resorting to un-sportsman like fouls etc. Hunter Clarke seems like a bit of a tool... real hot head.

Was an entertaining game though.

Really looking forward to Wolves vs Tigers next week. Hopefully Combs arrives soon. Japan B3 league had their finals last weekend so should be any day now I would think.



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Knowall  
Two months ago

Chemistry seems to be lacking in Redbacks mens outfit as well.

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

I thought Sweet Caroline was the Buccs song hahahahah....

Oh, okay. I assumed it was a central venue thing.

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radar  
Two months ago

Cougars are not gelling well as a team. Hunter Clark has been a flop since he got to W.A lets be honest. I think they are in danger of not playing finals. Also the change of coach cannot be under estimated either . Whats happening with the suns men and women.? Lakeside women grabbed a big scalp over the weekend, will uchich ever shoot like that again ? joel murray another 3 votes M.V.P - can the magic women avoid missing the playoffs for the first time in years is there ay help on the way ? womens comp is all over anyway , has any team every gone thru undefeated ?

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Grimace  
Two months ago

CJ Turnage I think will give Murray a run for MVP. Excellent quality from him so far this season with an actual point guard.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Any predictions for this weekend?

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Bored  
Two months ago

Mandurah with a huge win over Willeton at tigers was over in the first quarter really. Murray with 50

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Robbi Ryan officially announced at Rocko. Is this the most pointless season ever played?

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GoodSoup  
Two months ago

lol rocko chat

they are not that good

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Talking about Rocco, what is up with Quintin Dove the past few weeks, doens't look the same?

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Bored  
Two months ago

Heard on the Rockingham game stream that Devondrick could be out for the season

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word14  
Two months ago

What's going on with Gorjok Gak at Rockingham, hasn't played for a few weeks, injury?

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Aza  
Two months ago


Do East Perth men, on paper, have the best roster in the league? If not, where would you rate them as I dont have full knowledge of all players of the prominent teams.

Lee Roberts
Jerami Grace
Sebit Reath
David Okwera
Sunday Dech
Sharif Watson
Taylor Young

An import also coming

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Andrew  
Two months ago

On paper East Perth are certainly up there. They certainly have a lot of height and athleticism.
I've watched a few of their games. They tend to have lapses and not always high IQ basketball. But they make up for it with talent and athleticism. Lee Roberts arrived last weekend and their second import yet to arrive is a 6'10" big out of College. That makes 3 guys at 6'10". If they can gel as a team they look scary.

As a Wolves fan I'm a bit nervous about playing them on Friday... especially without Jeremy Combs.

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eager_onlooker  
Two months ago

East Perth roster looking like the best money can buy. Great to see all those Eagles juniors on the list there. Can argue Sunday is, but that's it. Is this the way of the future though, is the loyalty to juniors gone in favour of stacking to win? How many clubs still have and play their juniors?

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Bored  
Two months ago

Onlooker, which juniours should be getting played and how many wins should they sacrifice for that?

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Elphinkiller  
Two months ago

Eager Onlooker Rocko had Godfrey and Beard in the starting lineup on the weekend both club juniors, Jwok Abuy played minutes as did Percy Fernadez and if you count Emmanuel Dech who moved over at bottom age 18s then thats 5 of a 9 man rotation. Granted injuries to 2 starters in Walker and Gak played a part in that but its not bad for a semi pro league.

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eager_onlooker  
Two months ago

That's exactly the question posed bored. Is there a failing at Eagles to develop juniors? What are other clubs doing and also, the deeper question, is winning now more important? Willetton always have strong junior teams, has that led to success at senior level? Rocko do have Godfrey and Beard, granted. I was asking more broadly though, who are the teams that still promote and play junior talent? Rocko and Cougars women, both majority bought/recruited not developed. Senators strong local contingent, Slammers, Hawks, then who?

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Sandgroper  
Two months ago

It is now halfway through the season. And we are starting to see squads shape up and need to make runs.

Which coaches/players/rosters do you think are now on the hot seat? Do you think there will be a roster overhaul from some of these coaches between seasons?

Women -
Jason Chalk, Southwest 0-10. Tough job but no wins doesn't help.
Marcus Bardill, Suns 1-10. Word out that a lack of local recruitment hurt and looks like a lack of system from watching.
Craig Allen, Eagles 1-7. Haven't been competitive for a few years potential changes incoming.
Others?

Men -
Shane Goff, Southwest 2-9. Way more competitive this year than previous. Still not producing results.
Aaron Trahair, Suns 3-9. Before the solid last weekend they were looking ropes. Will they pull it together quick enough?
Mike Malat, Lightning 3-6. Have been pretty average for 1.5 years now.
Others?

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Aza  
Two months ago


It would at least be good to have some club juniors playing a few minutes off the bench

Willetton had 8 of their juniors suiting up and 6 getting some time on court last game

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eager_onlooker  
Two months ago

Great point Aza and Willo definitely an omission from the list I proposed, certainly add them to the others. Is still a small list though.

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Bored  
Two months ago

Its an interesting debate nowadays because if your development is good enough you lose majority of your good players to college anyway, so you have to recruit to cover.

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Aza  
Two months ago


You could recruit to cover them but still have a bunch of your club players getting at least some minutes. Couple of imports and a couple of strong local recruits, then ideally the remaining being players from your club


If you can develop lots of players who go to college, some might return to play for your club

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Salazar  
Two months ago

not sure if eager_onlooker is trolling or just really unfamiliar with the Eagle's roster, but saying they aren't invested in the juniors program is a bit ridiculous.

going down their player list on their NBL1 website:

Anthony Filpo
Kai Kabugua
Marley Newell
Michael Clare
Nathan Drown
Nicolas Filpo
Nigel Adonis
Sunday Dech

all developed in the juniors program - many from U12s. all have had minutes this season.

Jarrad Anastasio (injured) - also an east perth junior who would be playing if not for injury

as for developing players to higher leagues - Duop Reath, JLA, Tom Jervis, Adam Caporn, Keanu Pinder, Chautawech Reath - all east perth juniors.

many NBL1 Men's players also coach WABL teams - so yeah.. sorry to burst your bubble but this argument is pure nonsense

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Aza  
Two months ago


Adam Caporn is not even close to being a developed player. He was recruited in and just coached about 70% of one season, never played

Went through last 3 games, they all played zero minutes:

Kai Kabugua
Marley Newell
Michael Clare
Nathan Drown
Nicolas Filpo
Nigel Adonis

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Salazar  
Two months ago

I didn't say they play every game, I said they've all had minutes this season - which they have.

Nicolas averages around 20 mins per game and is backup PG for Taylor Young - (and a lock down defender)

Most of the others you listed are like 17-20 years old - which is the whole point i was trying to make - East Perth developed juniors very much are on the roster (most of them are killing it in DLEAGUE).

East Perth as a club invest heavily into their junior programs, and like i'm guessing is the case for most clubs - it takes a lot of personal time from volunteers, coaches, and players to drive it forward.

I don't have too much insight into the other clubs, other than hearing a commentator mention that Redbacks have 0 local talent in their entire roster (though i don't know how true that is).

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TrevorTorrance  
Two months ago

Mike drop Salazar haha

How is this weekend looking?

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Knowall  
Two months ago

Aza not sure where you getting your data from but Nick Filpo definitely played in last 3 games,he's currently averaging 20 minutes a game.

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West Whisper  
Two months ago

Funniest thing I seen on the interwebs this week was that Adam Caporn was a ln East Perth junior/developed player.

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Andrew  
Two months ago

Spoke with the Wolves CEO tonight about Jeremy Combs. They are having troubles with his visa. Australia requires a police clearance from every country that you've lived in for more then 12 months. Jeremy used to live in Israel and because of the war they are having troubles getting the police clearance from there. They even got Jeremy to travel to the Israeli embassy in Japan but they wouldn't do it.

They seem to think Rocco may have not disclosed Israel on his Visa application last season because if they did he should have had no issues returning to Australia since it's been less than 12 months.

If it isn't sorted within the week then they have another import signed pending the Combs saga.

So in the next week or 2 they will either have Combs or another import.

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West Whisper  
Two months ago

@Andrew

Thoughts on the double loss to East Perth on Van Kailis court last night?

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Andrew  
Two months ago

I only saw the last 5 mins of the women's game so can't really comment. Regarding the men's game I think the length and athleticism of the Eagles troubled the Wolves. Having multiple athletic 6'10' guys in the paint was enough to slightly change simple shots they'd normally make 90% of the time. I noticed the same last week vs Tigers when Gak was on the court. They are really missing having another athletic import forward right now which is exposing them. CJ Turnage does a great job inside but he's still only 6'6".

On an optimistic note if they hit their free throws they would have won the game. 7 of 17 from the strip was pretty poor.

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Bored  
Two months ago

Their offense hasn't functioned smoothly since Wade returned.

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Grimace  
Two months ago

Re the wolves ladies. It's a combination of injuries, (Clark hasn't played a game, Chandler was out, Smith played once then got injured, paddon injured in the 4th) & no communication on the floor. They don't have a reliable zone offence and they often don't know what they are supposed to be running particularly if shots arent falling. The coach also makes odd rotation decisions. Haven't been a fan of Spence. I'm not convinced he still has the locker room given the body language on the bench.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

GoodSoup - Rockingham then daylight, Joondalup then even more daylight, then throw a blanket.
This might need revising. Rocko women with scares against Lakeside and Willetton, Wolves women going down to Eagles and Senators. Cougars already looking good, now add Blazejewski.

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Butts  
Two months ago

Gutsy win for Kalgoorlie last night. Get the go ahead basket with less than a second left in reg, but gave up an alley-oop tip in which was the only legal shot allowed which sent it to OT. Lakeside get an offensive rebound with about 10 secs left in first OT when up by 1, kal foul with Tim Hollick draining both freebies. Timeout, and then Jerome Reid knocks down the tying three in front of the lakeside bench to send it to double OT, where they got it done. A couple of huge brain fades down the stretch but a cracking game with some clutch moments where both teams surely felt like they were home. Surprised it hasn't been featured on the socials.

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GoodSoup  
Two months ago

Kobe are you sure that came from me!!

Because I do not agree with that at all

Three horse race in the women (Rocko, Cougars, Warwick). Lakeside to bother teams but that's about all come playoff time. Expect Warwick to fall off once whittle goes

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koberulz  
Two months ago

It was a response to you, not a post from you.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Gutsy win for Kalgoorlie last night. Get the go ahead basket with less than a second left in reg, but gave up an alley-oop tip in which was the only legal shot allowed which sent it to OT.
I just watched this, and that shot shouldn't have counted. Blackmon clearly caught, rather than tipping, the ball.

Also that the replays get stripped of all the pre- and post-game, halftime, quarter breaks, etc is incredibly irritating. There are even several timeouts that were excised from that game.

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Sebastian  
Two months ago

That is what gets uploaded to Synergy so I am not surprised KR

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Bored  
Two months ago

Kobe suspect you just watched that highlight in isolation. The next play Goldfields had 0.6 on the clock or something like that, so the clock must have been wrong on Blackmons tip in.

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Sebastian  
Two months ago

I just watched the end of regulation and the clock was not reset and was still on 0.2 on the inbound play. Score definitely should not have counted. It was not a tip in.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Not in isolation, but I did skip ahead to the overtime period after the basket because I'd read the earlier post and understood that to be the final play of regulation.

Having gone back...it's even worse. The Giants get a possession with 0.2 on the clock, catch and shoot, it's ruled good on the floor (which it shouldn't have been). Then they go back and decide actually the Giants should have had more time, leaving time on the clock for Lakeside? What on earth are they doing? If the Giants had had over a second on the clock for their possession, would either side have played it differently? I'd wager they would have. And then how do you decide how long the Giants possession took, with no game clock to go by? Time expired while the ball was bouncing on the rim.

Bell's shot went through with 0.6 left. So okay, there should have been more time on the clock, but that decision needed to be made before the Giants got possession - even before their timeout - and even if they put 0.6 back on the clock given how long the ball bounced on the rim after the Blackmon shot there's no way Lakeside should have got the ball back. From the time the ball first touched Blackmon's hands until the time it exited the basket, 1.6 seconds elapsed.

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eager_onlooker  
Two months ago

Shock and awe time, officials make call that armchair critics disagree with after watching on replay over and over and decide they would have made the right call. In the end, double OT game that had the crowd going and was a great spectacle as a basketball fan. Get over yourselves and enjoy the game.

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Sebastian  
Two months ago

The entire process was flawed. Who are you protecting ?

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Putting time back on the clock two possessions after the event is not a heat-of-the-moment error. Counting a catch-and-shoot that occurs with 0.2 on the clock is not a heat-of-the-moment error.

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eager_onlooker  
Two months ago

Who am I protecting, the game champ, the game. The game isn't perfect, there were player, coach, referee errors all through the game, in every game. Bitch about it or celebrate it, that's the point I'm making. Assuming you're perfect in all aspects of your life given the stones you're happy to throw from your glass house? The likes of you and Koberulz are exactly as Einstein cited, you all have problems for every solution.

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Sebastian  
Two months ago

The game shouldn't have gone into OT, simple. And I live in a brick house champ thanks for asking.

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Lukosius  
Two months ago

Haha, some funny sh*t being written here by the experts, but let me put it all to bed for you.....

I was part of that extended scorebench, so don't necessarily go off what you see on a flawed stream. There were some clock issues, but because of excellent communication between the referees, both coaches, and the scorebench, everything played out as it should have. And the courtside IRS system worked a treat - something you don't see on the stream. And that last play at the end of regulation...... there was actually 0.8sec left. Ignore what you see, everyone in attendance knew what was going on.

In the end there were no complaints from any parties. as the old saying goes.... "When speculation has done its worst, two and two still make four."

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koberulz  
Two months ago

And the courtside IRS system worked a treat - something you don't see on the stream.
Which just makes the "you get to watch replays and the referees don't" argument even sillier.

And that last play at the end of regulation...... there was actually 0.8sec left.
The Lakeside possession with 0.2 on the clock, or the Giants possession with 0.4 on the clock?

In either case, why was play started with the wrong time on the clock? Why was the clock run, given it had the wrong time on it? If it was the Lakeside possession, why did the Giants get the ball given 1.6 seconds elapsed on the Lakeside possession?

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Lukosius  
Two months ago

FFS
What is your interest in this?

If you want the full details, please email the club and I will be happy to call you back with an explanation. My fingers are tired.

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John Bagley  
Two months ago

Hahahahahahahaha

koberulz now trying to take on one of the legends on the SBL/NBL1 West. Where's the respect you fool?

I suggest he give up now before his arse is handed to him LOL

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koberulz  
Two months ago

First of all.

Haha, some funny sh*t being written here by the experts, but let me put it all to bed for you.....
This attitude is silly. Based on what's visible on the stream, the conclusion that the officials made serious errors is entirely reasonable. There's no reason to think anything else was going on.

And even with the later explanation, it still doesn't make sense. I'm still not sure which possession Lukosius is referring to as "that last play in regulation," because that description ought to apply to the Giants possession but there being 0.8 on the clock would make more sense for it meaning the preceding Lakeside possession. I'm guessing they did in fact mean the Lakeside possession, which is the assumption I ran with for the rest of my post.

It certainly seems less badly handled given the above explanation, but it doesn't go close to actually clearing the situation up.

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Butts  
Two months ago

If you come for Lukosius, you best not miss.

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Grimace  
Last month

Has the Gero camera crew always been bad? I think I've watched two games this season where they've missed multiple plays by just not moving the camera at all for 1-2 minutes.

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Andrew  
Last month

@Grimace I was just thinking the same thing. Perhaps thy were multitasking... pretty frustrating to watch.

Hope Ethan Elliot's ankle injury isn't too serious.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Bumped into a few mates at Bendat this am and it looks like Walker is out for the season! Total bummer and big blow for the Flames!

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Andrew  
Last month

That's a real bummer for the Flames. They've been struggling without him. I wonder if they're going to replace him?

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West Whisper  
Last month

As I sit in th3 stands at Mike Barnett tonight, I can't help but look around and think .. what happened to the once-full Hot House for Flames NBL1 games? Crowd numbers are on the decline week by week. The atmosphere has disappeared.

Hope those Rockingham faithful who worked so hard to get rid of Warren from the Board are happy.. your program will probably never reach that level of success again.

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Grimace  
Last month

Combs turned up and sat with the bench for the second half of the wolves game tonight. Look like he just got in. Good to see with their current injury woes

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Andrew  
Last month

@Grimace It was a sigh of relief when I saw him in the building tonight.

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last month

Unpopular opinion

Rocko women don't make grand final

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West Whisper  
Last month

Magic Men look ordinary withouT Joel Murray. They'd want to hooe he is back on the floor soon.

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radar  
Last month

with joel murray not playing on saturday night of course it would have upset the balance of this team.he has the ball in his hands 80% of the time .to say they looked poor is a bit over the top. if you take the M.V.P of the league off your team it makes a big differnce just ask rockingham flames men and rockingham flames women.

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koberulz  
Last month

Looks like they've redone the website and made it impossible to load anything except the home page?

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Sebastian  
Last month

I can view every conference so works for me

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Lukosius  
Last month

Works on Chrome but not on Edge or Firefox.

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koberulz  
Last month

Yeah, I'm using Firefox.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

yeh the new NBL1 website is trash! Nothing loads!

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Bored  
Last month

Clicking anything on the home page just reloads the homepage for me - chrome.

Will they add the ability to see stats from previous NBL1 seasons?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Who is the Wolves new import? What happened to Combs?

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koberulz  
Last month

Tried clicking on the news link they posted on Facebook, but it just loaded a blank page. Website is completely broken.

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Andrew  
Last month

https://joondalupwolves.nbl1.com.au/news/we-got-our-wolf

The Chambers Franklyn City of Joondalup Wolves are excited to announce the signing of dynamic, international star Jacob Wiley for the remainder of the 2024 NBL1 West season.


Jacob Wiley is a flashy, high flying big man who dominates the court with speed and athleticism. Jacob played for NCAA Div 1 school UIC Athletics in Chicago, Illinois before transferring to Marian College for his Senior year in the NAIA where he averaged 11 points, 6.1 rebounds and 1 block per game.


Jacob started his professional career playing in the Greece-Elite League where he played for two different teams in the 2022/23 season, playing for GD Ermis Shimatariou, before accepting a move to NE Megaridas later in the season. At NE Megaridas Jacob averaged 12 points, 5 rebounds and 1.1 blocks per game, helping the team become playoff contenders.


For the 2023/24 season, Jacob played in the British Basketball League (BBL) for the Plymouth City Patriots where he excelled as a shot maker and defender, averaging 14 points, 6.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per contest.


Wolfpack fans can look forward to seeing Jacob on court and above the rim for the remainder of the 2024 season!


Men's Head coach David Morrell had this to say about signing Jacob:


"When you add in a player halfway through a season to a squad that’s already competing well, you want a guy who’s going to positively add to what you are doing and not disrupt anything. We know that Jacob is going to add to our team in a big way immediately. He gives us a new level of eye-popping athleticism, size, skill, and terrific versatility on both sides of the ball.


He just wants to win, and we are very excited to see what we can do as we integrate him into our team. He hasn’t played in Australia, but he comes to us straight out of a season in the BBL, which is a very high level of basketball. That international experience gives you some confidence about how he will be able to come in and impact our team in a positive way. One thing I know for certain, is that Wolfpack fans are going to love this guy."


When Jacob was asked what he’s most looking forward to this season, he said:


“Joondalup in my opinion has the best fanbase in the entire league. I’m excited to join the Wolves for the rest of season. The team already has something special going on and I just want to add to it. I’ll be bringing a lot of energy, athleticism and versatility to the game.


My decision to join the Wolves was easy, I believe in this team’s ability to compete for a championship, and that’s something I want to be a part of!”


Following the signing of Jeremy Combs in February, significant delays were experienced in attaining immigration approvals. Whilst Jeremy had played for the Rockingham Flames in 2023, a similar visa was unable to be secured for 2024.


The Joondalup Wolves invested considerable resources in navigating Jeremy's immigration challenges and understand that an alternate visa was issued shortly after Jacob commencing transit to Australia. We are disappointed that Jeremy has this week advised that he wished to immediately terminate his playing contract, and we understand he has an intention to sign a playing contract with an alternate NBL1 West club.


The Wolves are reviewing all remedies that are available in response to the circumstances surrounding Jeremy signing with another team and will be seeking clarification from the league on the validity of the mandated standardised league contracts.

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Bored  
Last month

Not the NBL Wiley for anyone wondering.

Interesting note at the end of the article re; Combs. Sounds like he did the Wolves dirty and intends to sign elsewhere in West.

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Billy Bob  
Last month

Coombs back at flames.

Some very dodgy and underhanded stuff. Flames not winning many friends

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Aza  
Last month


Im guessing Coombs is replacing Walker for the rest of the season?

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

So Rocko released Dove! and signed Combs- + Walker is back tonight! Interesting times!

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

I think Morant has also been released by Cockburn.
Wonder if Dove gets signed by someone else now??

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Andrew  
Last month

Went to the Wolves game tonight. Wiley is definitely athletic. Took a while to get used to the team & the way the game is played but did well in the second half. 11 points, 13 rebounds and 5 blocks.

I noticed Combs played for Flames tonight too.

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koberulz  
Last month

Website still broken.

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Bored  
Last month

Andrew, what do you think the Wolves will do when Elliot is back with the starting lineup? Jurlina to the bench?

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Andrew  
Last month

I'd say they will bring Elliot in to run the point and bring Jurlina off the bench. I spoke with him last night. He said he should be back next weekend.

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koberulz  
Last month

Walker is back tonight!
Not sure where you heard that one....

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last month

Further unpopular opinion

Cougars women to go back to back. If you saw them play Lakeside last night they are next level.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Walker is back tonight!
Not sure where you heard that one....

A few of the US imports who bumped into him told me that- is he done for the season?

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Andrew  
Last month

Someone was talking to Ethan Elliot's brother the other week and he said Ethan has a tryout for a development player position with Cairns Taipans.

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koberulz  
Last month

I still can't load the website...

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Sebastian  
Last month

Works on Mac and chrome perfectly

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forwhatitsworth  
Last month

Stats are not sortable and cant search for a player on the stats page. Stats are different on overall stats page to club page and different from the app! Its a dogs breakfast

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Perth Stadium  
Last month

If you think the Perth Metropolitan area needs a new indoor stadium give your support here!

https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Parliament/LAePetitions.nsf/petitions/24-0007

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Perthworld  
Last month

It makes sense to replace the currently awkward dual usage of Belmont Oasis and Leisurelife Vic Park.

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Aza  
Last month


Is this an expensive line up?

Sharif Watson - American import
Taylor Young - American import
Lukas Milner - American import
Lee Roberts - Former American import

Jerami Grace - Son of former American import

Sunday Dech - NBL
David Okwera - NBL

Sebit Reath - Very good scorer, shooter and rebounder



An import

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Andrew  
Last month

@Aza They've certainly spent big. Sharif Watson is now a permanent resident so counts as a local.

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Salazar  
Last month

@Aza compared to other clubs i doubt they would even crack the top 5 re: expensive lineups.

I think a better question that needs asking is how come Gerro get away with not having a women's team? They get to spend their entire budget on the Men!

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Do we have predictions this week? Seems to have gone quite :(

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Specc19  
Last month

It would be nice if you could watch the game without the continuous yapping from the commentators sometimes.... I'd like to be able to watch the live streams without hearing personal opinions or unrelated personal anecdotes

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Bored  
Last month

You could turn the volume down...?

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KFC Rules  
Last month

Maybe they could stop using the same dude to commentate every game on Kayo.

He loves the sound of his own voice, auto mute for games sadly.

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TrevorTorrance  
Last month

Seems like Waker is on a minutes restriction with Rocco, but gearing up for the playoffs- they will be dangerous!
Willo looked good on the weekend playing with a small lineup and Dupree playing with an injury!
Looks like Top 8 for the Men's is locked.
Anyone know if Dove will get picked up by a playoff team as a last minute push?

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Bohemian Rhap  
Last month

Is tomorrow nights women's game a grand final preview?

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Aza  
Two weeks ago


Any thoughts on the progress of teams?

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Andrew  
Two weeks ago

Injuries have played a big factor. Top 8 locked in.
I think Buccs will finish 1st, Wolves 2nd. 3rd to 6th could change.


Buccs now at full strength are still the team to beat even with the loss this weekend.

Wolves humming along too. Wiley is finding his feet and looking like a great signing. Could it be a Buccs vs Wolves rematch GF?

Tigers really feeling the loss of Dupree and Vigor with a 4 game losing streak. Anyone know what their injuries are and how long they're out for?

Eagles are pretty stacked and seem to be able to cover for injuries and absences very well. When Dech returns they will be a tough game for anyone come finals.

Magic playing well. Pesava seems to miss quite a few games. Is he nursing an injury? Can beat anyone on any given night the way Murray is playing.

Giant's have been pretty consistent but can't see them making the GF.

Senators are on fire right now. Harris and Withers have been unstoppable. Unfortunately they don't have much depth.

Flames destiny lays in the hands of Walker. They are night and day with him as shown by their win over the Buccs this weekend. The injury to Janssen is huge. Would be surprised to see them in the GF.

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TrevorTorrance  
Two weeks ago

Heard Dupree is out for another week- strained his groin so nothing major. They need him for any chance to win it!
With a full squad they do look dangerous too!

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Bored  
Two weeks ago

My read of the Olympic fixtures are that Sunday would only be back for the Eagles if they made the NBL1 West grand final? Looks like he will miss it all.

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Aza  
Two weeks ago


What order does everyone rank the teams in terms of talent on paper?

These are the teams and their current ladder positioning:

Geraldton
Joondalup
Willetton
East Perth
Mandurah
Goldfields
Warwick
Rockingham
Perry lakes
Eastern Suns
South West
Lakeside
Cockburn
Perth

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Aza  
Two weeks ago

Referring to the men's competition

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Andrew  
Two weeks ago

@Bored yes you're correct about Sunday

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Doza  
Last week

Just wondering has the league ever taken into consideration having games earlier on a saturday?. To be able to watch most games without going back and fourth would be a good thing and im sure players wouldnt mind a earlier time too. Easier said then done though due to domestic but Im sure players would love to not play 8 or 8:30pm on a saturday especially

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radar  
Last week

im hearing it is gavin fields last game this weekend what a legend of this league . what a fantastic player to watch is there any other players bowing out ? awards night this saturday night. joel murray to win the mens not sure about womens maley ?

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radar  
Last week

im hearing it is gavin fields last game this weekend what a legend of this league . what a fantastic player to watch is there any other players bowing out ? awards night this saturday night. joel murray to win the mens not sure about womens maley ?

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John Bagley  
Last week

I would think that it will be Matt Wundenberg's last season. He came back this year to play his 500th game but has only averaged 5mins per game.

Surely this season is it for the 40yo, particularly if he goes out with another championship ring.

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