Anonymous
Two weeks ago

Best junior development

Know this will probably cause a lot of sledging, but in people's honest opinion what are the rankings of clubs in terms of junior development?
I would use the categories of
- Junior development officer(jdo)/coaching director.
- Local league/feeder program
- Mentoring young coaches and players
- Senior involvement (players giving back and inspiring juniors)
- Talent identification
- Culture
- Support from committee
- Coach the coaches/courses
- Resources

There would be more so feel free to mention some other criteria. No bashing and naming and shaming coaches, just where you think clubs are on both boys and girls sides. Remember that legal action can be taken for comments.

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JR  
Two weeks ago

Easy to figure the best out- which one has turned out the most nbl quality or better players over recent years?

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Nunawading Spectres.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Sorry, looking at keeping to SA mainly. In terms of nbl players, is it mainly talent and individual desire, or a result of club development. An athletic 7 footer will always have a shot at next level. I'm talking about producing across the board players and coaches that have complete fundamentals and knowledge. And larger clubs will have the numbers to get the better athletes.
Maybe an example is like the Gonzaga and Villanova programs. They are getting the talent now, but for a long time they have taken the big boys on with lesser talent. So did Brad Stevens at Butler and early Celtics.

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Moose  
Two weeks ago

VIC
Dandenong
Knox
Eltham
Kilsyth
Nunawading

NSW
North Sydney
Sydney
Illawarra
Hills
Bankstown

SA
Sturt
North
South
F'ville

WA
Willetton
Perry Lakes
Rockingham
Joondalup

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hawthorn has been really good the past few years.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Really???

How many Hawthorn only juniors currently playing NBL/WNBL?

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robt  
Last week

The exMaroochydore Clippers, now the Sunshine Coast Phoenix, had a dream run of 3 successive U18Boys state championships, 2 coached by Warrick Meehl followed by Verne Robiteau's team. Incidentally, From those teams, there are 13 or 14 players still playing semi-pro ball, most of them in the QBL. Don't ask why they don't all get together under Warrick & Verne, add a couple of imports, and take on the world (that's the QBL). There is no sensible answer for that one!

For a small association, they also turned out a number of elite ballers (played NBL at least). Some names that I remember are Brad Davidson, Jae Kingi, Brad Newley, Craig Irvine, Julie Stringer, Brad Williamson, Scott kenny, Isaih Tueta.

Not too shabby for a small association with members' numbers being only in the hundreds.

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Hoopie  
Last week

Warwick Meehl - there's a name from the past. Known as 'Ice man’ when he played for NZ, deadly 3-point shooter and exciting to watch, a bit like CG43 but without the attitude and posturing. (And longer hair, from memory.)

His dad Bill was a good coach too.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Here is an ofter overlooked fact for you...

There have been only 3 players from South Australia that have played or are playing in the NBA.

ALL of them came from the Noarlunga come Southern Tigers as juniors:

Joe Ingles
Luke Schencher
Mark Bradtke

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Anonymous  
Last week

And now all the area produces is teen mums and criminals. What a fall from grace

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UseTaHoop  
Last week

Bradtke moved to Adelaide from Qld.

That's what we were told at the time.

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Anonymous  
Last week

SA BOYS
Sturt
North
Forestville
Norwood
West
South
Woodville
Southern
Centrals
Eastern

SA GIRLS
Forestville
Sturt
West
Norwood
North
Southern
Eastern
South
Centrals
Woodville

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Anonymous  
Last week

Whoever is coming up with these rankings may need to do a little more homework...

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Anonymous  
Last week

Boys
North
Sturt
Norwood
Centrals
Southern
Forestville
West
Eastern
South
Woodville

Girls
Forestville
Sturt
West
South
Norwood
Southern
North
Eastern
Centrals
Woodville



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Anonymous  
Last week

I think we need actual statistics to work this out. Not just uninformed guess work

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John  
Last week

Maybe not the most, but Horsham in country Vic.
Small little country club, has produced:
2 x Bruce Brothers
Mitch Creek
Shane McDonald

2 of those guys have represented Aus. (A.Bruce & Creek).
Pound for pound, that's a pretty good effort.

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Anonymous  
Last week

I think for SA any club with a full-time employee (Coaching Director) should be streaks ahead. Sturt, Norwood, Forestville, Southern & South (half the comp) have full time designated Coaching Directors.

Not Full time

North Adelaide share the position and the two gentlemen put in the equivalent of one full timer.
Centrals - Was Ricky Simpson along with his Northern Academy program, so decent pathway and development system.

Woodville - Scott Herriman is the JDO but unsure at what capacity this is?
West Adelaide - Do it by committee led by Andrew Nowak who has been involved with the club for about a decade.

Eastern - The website says Karen Williams but I am unsure of her credentials as a coach and how long she has been involved? May be a voluntary role.

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UseTaHoop  
Last week

Glenelg/Noarlunga/Southern girls of note

Julie Nykiel
Jenny Cheeseman
Michelle Brogan

Brogan def started club juniors there, my Dad recruited her from a Primary school comp/carnival or something. The other 2 played as seniors so long I'm guessing they were local juniors.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Any club with a full time coaching director should be heaps ahead, but some are not because some coaching directors don't understand junior development. Some do.

How do you qualify this as well? NBL/WNBL players? Classic results? A lot of ways to determine this. Some clubs being listed here aren't even close to achieving decent results at those levels.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Centrals have a part part time coaching director, no experience, doesn't seem to have a handle on things. Ricky is there with his academy but only official capacity is as senior coach.
Here in a new was shown the door at woodville as women's coach and Jdo, was a disaster apparently.
Corey was supposed to oversee things at West, not sure if that's still the case. Girls side of things are excellent, boys are terrible.
Eastern, who has any idea what they do, some decent girls teams but boys all over the place, reflective in their senior programmes.
Sturt and north are way ahead. Norwood despite their abundance of teams are ho hum, will be interesting to see what goes on with departure of Willie and appointment of Rojo.
Southern have great structure of coaches, just not great talent. South have plenty of kids, just that most aren't that good.

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Cowboy  
Last week

Mavericks girls are passable with some OK teams propped up by Country kids but the boys program is a disaster zone! Either bottom or second to bottom in each grade currently with an on-going trend of departures of the more talented kids to other clubs who offer a lot more for the fees.

Nice friendly club but needs immediate action to help develop and then RETAIN their players for the future.

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