Jack Toft
Earlier this year

GF Series Game 4 Mar 17

Well..... game 3 didn't go the way I thought it would. The result in Game 4 doesn't really mean much if you can't win in Perth.

So, a Melbourne win in this game might be as hollow as a politician's promise if they can't back it up in game 5.

For the Wildcats, it's Saint Patrick's Day so they might need the luck of the Irish to finish United off and give Greg Hire the opportunity to cut down a net.

So, for the Wildcats:
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
your threes rain softly through the ring;
your free throws drop,
and you be in Perth with the trophy before United knows you've won.

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LV  
Earlier this year

May the referees undertake a full investigation assisted by a drawn out video review process, and then realise that it was a case of mistaken identity, and in actual fact it was not Mitch McCarron who burgled each of their homes, terrorised their children and ran over their pet cats with their lawnmowers.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

LV, for the sake of the grand final series I hope your team are mentally capable of responding to a 29 point demolition better than you are.

Really embarrassing stuff.

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LV  
Earlier this year

I'm fine- I'm not as attached to United as I was to Melbourne Tigers. Or St Kilda.

White was as hot as the roof of your shed on Black Saturday, while United's two best scorers couldn't have hit an open layup last night

Hats off to Perth. They were the better team.

But, there's nothing wrong with drawing attention to the bush league reffing. As an NBL fan of my whole life, I'm just saying they need to get better at this.

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Damn  
Earlier this year

Damn Luuc! Easy on the ether!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

McCarron needs to learn some discipline. Kept getting caught with his hands in the cookie jar. Maybe the pressure of the big stage is getting to him.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

But, there's nothing wrong with drawing attention to the bush league reffing.

No there's not. It's just weird how upset you are about 50% of it while being totally cool with the other 50% of it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I've been waiting for Cotton to absolutely explode in a game this series. It could be this one. He has been reasonably well held but a lot of it is his shots just not dropping. His scoring has been slowly getting better as the series goes on, we could see him go off for 30-40 this game.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Luuuc, United got help last Sunday too. And like Perth, United was just the better team, in addition to getting help

But, the difference was there wasn't one individual Wildcat who was impacted like McCarron has been in the two games in Perth

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Cats for life  
Earlier this year

Can't buy experience and McCarron hasn't handled it well so far in his 1st gf series. It ain't over but if it does go 5 game's United probably lost it mentally already.

Would be good to close it out tomorrow away from home for a change and I expect a different wildcats team that played last Sunday.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Can't see Melbourne winning this unless they change a few things around, not going to happen now. Perth’s to lose. Perth by 10 on Sunday.

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Bookmakers have Melbourne winning game 4 by 9pts. Thoughts?

They have Wildcats as hot favourites to win the championship though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

melbourne by 10

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

"I've been waiting for Cotton to absolutely explode in a game this series. It could be this one. He has been reasonably well held but a lot of it is his shots just not dropping."

Cotton is still injured, still playing with his hand heavily strapped.

It would seem its going to come down to 3 point shooting again. Surely Melbourne can't be that poor again, so they'll come back, whereas Perth struggled in game 2.

Obviously I want the Cats to win the series, but I am kinda torn.
I'd love to watch them win at home, again, it really is special. But I'd also just like them to win on Sunday and be done with it.

Of course we also have to hope that Martin and Jervis recover ok and got extra legroom on the flight over.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

imo Perth should win this, they seem better balanced and hard to recover from last Friday. Kay was emence on the defensive end. The refs got get on the moving screens, Ware and Cotton should cancel each other out. Goulding could be the key if he can get hot.I'm hoping that if White starts knocking down threes that United get Moller on him, he was able to slow up Buford, Conger, Tokoto, etc last season but has slipped down the pecking order with McCarron and Kennedy playing the three. Barlow to the five also should be tried to speed up Melbourne offence. Should be a great game and I don’t see a blow out happening today.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

emence ftw

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Perth to win... hopefully

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Cats for life  
Earlier this year

Would be a few nerves in this one, can't recall perth going into a gf up one to close it out away.

Will be tough but hopefully they will ended today. Please let not talk about the ref's!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Please let not talk about the ref's!"

LOLOLOLOL did you forget where you are for a moment when you wrote that?
This is a Melb home game so LV has the day off and it is J's shift

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sportsbet odds are currently Melb $1.42 and Perth $2.90.

Perth have been $2.60 for most of the week but starting to drift this morning with the bookies.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

That makes sense. Being blown out helps Melbourne because the garbage time reduced their fatigue. The closer both teams are to being fresh the more it helps the home team. This will be another one sided letdown of a game just like the first 3. It is all just going through the motions ahead of game 5.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The game is on the main 9HD channel channel in Perth :o

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Perth Wilburs  
Earlier this year

Refs betting big on Melbourne hence the crush in the price for Melbourne?

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Timberball  
Earlier this year

Dream commentary team of Heal and Dwayne Russell... Yay. FFS

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Absolute joke commentary team.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

The game is on the main 9HD channel channel in Perth :o

I'm not surprised. I don't normally watch free to air but the coverage today's game on last night's 6pm local Nine News was incredible. They were pumping it up massively.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

I thought we had moved past Dwayne
:(

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LV going to be very triggered by that early mccarron foul

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Oh jeez, McCarron just fouled Cotton. Impending flood of ref h8 right here

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I'd take 3 Shane heals in the commentary box over Dwayne

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Oh Angus :/

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

White has not cooled down at all

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

Melb looking much better offensively. But the d is still not good enough

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Terrico's asking price has just doubled in the space of a week

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Almost Lebron-like how terico has entered into this playoff mode

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Heal? *mute*

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Foul called on Kennedy which wasn't there.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

Was John Casey busy today? I like Heal and Santamaria, but the other guy drives me crazy.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

So I guess STFU about reffing in this thread is already out the window.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

United spudding

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I like this DJ post up stuff from Melbourne, although they've got almost zero out of it so far.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Damo shooting like a gawd

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Should be John Casey. Heal also seems to do what he likes and avoids Perth which hates. A junior commentator but LK's golden child. Sickening.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

which he hates*

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Don't know why commentators still act shocked with Martin hits a 3. You'd rather him shooting it than White or Cotton, but he can knock them down.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Because they're shit, but you already knew that.

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Gus3232  
Earlier this year

Finally we get some high level shooting/scoring! Both teams looking sharp.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Just when I'm on the under too.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Refs clearly hate Melbourne

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

CG43.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

Mmmmmmm

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Nice of Goulding to show up.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Love that 3 and foul from Goulding, hey PW

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

players hanging all over cotton is fine today I see

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Still yet to update with the Goulding freethrow on the TV score lol

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Refs back to favouring the home team tonight, what a shock. Amount of contact on Cotton there versus the loose ball contact on that blown foul.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Trev yelling expletives like a homeless person

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Finally some offense in this series.

And I'm on the under.

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J  
Earlier this year

Ware runs into wagstaff, gets foul... wow

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

There he is.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

"Great turn and shoot by Pledger". Wow, he really knows his basketball terminology.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There's no question the refs call the game differently. That foul on wag staff was there - the replay clear showed him stepping over.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

4for4 home cooking this series. United bunping on d pressing , cats allowed 0 contact

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J  
Earlier this year

Damo fouled multiple times then goulding gets an offensive foul...

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

This is going to game 5

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

#Game5revenuebooster

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Timberball  
Earlier this year

This reffing is fckin comical

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Btown  
Earlier this year

"on wag staff was there - the replay clear showed him stepping over."

Long before ware was there

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Just  
Earlier this year

11 fouls to 4. Crazy.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Yeah, give the refs a home jersey this series.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I don't mind the contact on the perimeter that's going on tonight (especially from Melbourne), but fact is that these would have been whistled fouls on Friday night.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

the reffing is the same as all season. if players still haven't learned to adjust by now then it's their own fault.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Haha that was huge by Hire

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Thats a mans move by greg

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Goulding complaining about the most obvious foul of the series

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Really dumb foul by Martin. Cats not mentally switched on at all today.

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Gus3232  
Earlier this year

I'm thinking a screen similar to the one Vlahov set on Mark Dickel is required here.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

That was an uncharacteristic foul from Martin.

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Just  
Earlier this year

Goulding thinks he's never committed a foul in his life.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Goulding complaining about the most obvious foul of the series"

I hate how much he complains when he legitimately fouls someone and makes contact, but then flops looking for calls when he doesn't even get touched

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Btown  
Earlier this year

"did he roll an ankle there" while watching him run back up the court fine. Professional commentators for next season please

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Btown  
Earlier this year

" it's waived away and the points will count" what

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Barry Ballbag  
Earlier this year

Gouldings flopping and complaining could get him a spot with the Rockets.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Moller from three = LOL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Heal criticising the coaching cause he was so much more successful.

Come back as captain/coach princess

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Moller hitting his first 3 might hurt united more than it helps them

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Mmm mmm are we getting take away today?

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Just  
Earlier this year

Great minutes from Hire.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

does that count as an assist for Hire?

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Mr hustle Hire will actually be missed. Become a very niche player

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

'does that count as an assist for Hire?'

Do you get an assist for foul shots?

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Niche as in past it?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Absolutely monster quarter from Perth. To battle through some average reffing at the start to hang in there then swing the momentum. Thats the kind of quarter that wins championships.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Yes you do if a foul shot is made.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Do you get an assist for foul shots?"

NBL you do as long as they make 1 of them i believe

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Do you get an assist for foul shots?"

I thought you did if you hit at least one of them but no assist was credited for that play so I guess not

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Btown  
Earlier this year

If you can't see how Gleeson has used hire this season to turn games around this season then I can't help you

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Just  
Earlier this year

18 free throws for Melbourne in that half, 7 for Perth.

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LV  
Earlier this year

There's one team who deserves to win right now and their name is Perth, unfortunately

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Stat guy heard Heal say he won't get a stat for that and deferred to the expert

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

That's because NBL score benches make a lot of mistakes.

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J  
Earlier this year

United with 18fta attempts to 7... perth going to have to be flawless the rest of the way

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Weren't United supposed to be winning the series today in four?

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Some big contributions for Perth off the bench - Jervis, Hire, Norton all really important. Cotton huge obviously. Big time effort by the Cats to keep a lead in the face of all the foul trouble.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

Could it be because Wagstaff wasn't actually shooting when the foul occurred.

Just a thought

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Gus3232  
Earlier this year

Far from over is this game #yoda

Crackin contest this is #doubleyoda

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Don't see a game 5 happening based on that first half, which itself feels a bit like a blessing.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Stat guy heard Heal say he won't get a stat for that and deferred to the expert

He still got a stat for it anyway - an O board. Unlike Shane to be wrong about something.
But yeah, should have got an assist too.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Could it be because Wagstaff wasn't actually shooting when the foul occurred.

Just a thought

Good point. Could be. I really don't know.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Where's Homocide

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Btown  
Earlier this year

I'd rather listen to homicide on a loop than this commentary team.

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Heal is a spud.
LV has summed it up Perth are better.

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Cats for life  
Earlier this year

First 2 minutes will tell the tale.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Far from over is this game #yoda

Crackin contest this is #doubleyoda

Yeah, both of these teams can get going at home in the space of 2 possessions.
At this point I'm stoked to have any kind of a lead, but we'll have to play better than that in the 2nd half to keep it.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"I've been waiting for Cotton to absolutely explode in a game this series. It could be this one. He has been reasonably well held but a lot of it is his shots just not dropping. His scoring has been slowly getting better as the series goes on, we could see him go off for 30-40 this game."

Just going to bunp this from last night ^^

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AyJay  
Earlier this year

Referees actually called a few actual fouls that went Perth's way that quarter which just stopped the foul count reaching 2/1 Melbourne's favor at 6/12. Perth the better team by far today but the outcome of this game will be determined by referee consistency or lack of it. First quarter so many soft defensive fouls on Perth and so few even hard on Melbourne, the highest fouling team in the NBL.

I still believe that as our own refs change for finals (especially by putting the whistle away when it suits them) that independant refs should be brought in for the finals!!



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Gus3232  
Earlier this year

Is it just me or has Nick Kay been very quiet this series?

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Boone is having another shocker.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Love a good SHABANG call by Dwayneo

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Casper clearly still walking after Cotton had left his feet

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Yeah, BS charge call.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

God even Heal saw it so you know it was obvious

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Wildcats come out a bit flat on movement, they need someone to fire them up

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Like I said

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J  
Earlier this year

Like i said need to be flawless...

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Huge couple of minutes coming up here.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Great response, started by a Damo poke-away

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

How many steps from CG43 there?

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Terrico is absolutely flaming

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Jervis hand on the ball, and they want to start a fight?

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Just  
Earlier this year

Jervis had lots of ball, I don't see the big deal.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Get on that screen Mayberry!!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nothing wrong from Jervis. Straight up and went for the ball. You try and go for a continuation he has every right to swat that.

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J  
Earlier this year

Jervus bkocked the continuation, got all ball, then kennedy comes in and escalates... but im sure perth gets tje worst end of this...

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

If that's an unsportsmanlike on Jervis. It should be on Kennedy too for the shove

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Clock is stopped at 4:20. There's a 4 point difference and 20 seconds left on the shot clock

420 boyz

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Yeah only DJ with anything here.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

How the f does Jervis get unsportsmanlike

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Just  
Earlier this year

I don't get why that's an unsportsmanlike on Jervis. Makes no sense

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J  
Earlier this year

Couldn't see goulding travel before though....

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Interested Spectator  
Earlier this year

"How the f does Jervis get unsportsmanlike"

Fouled well after whistle

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

That's game

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Terrico holy fuck

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J  
Earlier this year

Terrico!!!!!

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Btown  
Earlier this year

MVP MVP MVP, white is cooking

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Value tripled

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J  
Earlier this year

Not the same play again!!!!

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Fool me once, fool me twice hahah

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Just  
Earlier this year

So what if Jervis fouled after the whistle? He's not allowed to make sure if he stops the and-1? Terrible call.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

That incident with Jervis hasn't had the desired effect for melb.

Definitely has for the cats

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Btown  
Earlier this year

"
Fouled well after whistle

"
If the offensive player playing on defense is allowed to also. Never risk a bad continuation call

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Btown  
Earlier this year

I said wildcats needed someone to fire them up, just didn't think it would be a Melbourne player

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Well hey at least Adnam is headed to Cairns

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How's that for a start to the last quarter

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Goulding banks a 3 and White misses the most open shot he has had all series this one is not over yet

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Holy shit Goulding , that's your legacy

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Yes it is

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jervis has had a really impressive game 3 and 4

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Melbourne Unite

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

United going to live and die off Goulding hero ball.
Cats still generating layups.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

You can tell Terrico has played the game at a higher level than this league. It's like he's been on valium this whole season, now his thinking is super quick. As quick as anyone on the court

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

How many times the Wildcats going to burn United on the same baseline cut.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

The difference between Perth and Melbourne. One Blazing from 3, the other making the extra pass

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

yep Btown

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Angus yes it keeps happening - United are either lazy or too old.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

I am really enjoying this.

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Gus3232  
Earlier this year

Plenty of time left here

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Really Gus

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Jervis carving Melbourne Unite up.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Melbourne are either giving up or just desperate if they're throwing Smith-Milner in as a hail mary

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Tommy "d'oh another dumb foul" Jervis ... way to step it up in games 3 & 4
Damo … way to stay being Damo

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

I'm not even mad. This is most odd

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Cats for life  
Earlier this year

LV WHERE ARE YOU?

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Still a ton of time left in this

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Eat it Manu.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Thanks for leaving Cotton open :-)

Not so much time left now

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Haha yeah fair cop, PW, thank god I'm not invested enough to be mad. Thank you, Fiba break

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Let's never speak of this Finals series again.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

Terrico to Taipans 2020

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Joke D by MEL in a GF. Time for a total rebuild for them.

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Just  
Earlier this year

Who gets finals MVP? Cotton or White? Hard to pick between the two, but I'm thinking White by a hair.

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Manu Fieldel  
Earlier this year

LV come on down!

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

It still doesn't even feel like a GF series. Total non-event, MEL no intensity.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jervis might have saved his career as a Wildcat over the last 3 days

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

lol... Jervis with the man-sized layup miss at the basket.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

STAND TOGETHER, WEST AUSTRALIA!

I think we can put to bed the stupid comments that this melb team is even close to being the best ever.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Does the crowd keep it classy after the buzzer?

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

Maybe the best ever underachievers. Melbourne showed some moxy versus the Kings, but really they hadn't looked sharp this year.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

Also. White is easily the finals MVP

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

They shouldn't have let go of the GROWN MAN.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Bonus treat: Venky Jois free throws.

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Flop Warning  
Earlier this year

How fitting is it for Melbourne's season to finish on Jois free throws

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

LOL a banked free throw.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

97 points again, defense broke down way too often for Melbourne.

White is the finals MVP for sure, was pivotal in every wildcats win

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Terrico for GF MVP is a lock.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Congrats to Perth - they were too good. I find it funny the commentators going on about Melbourne fans should show respect and hang around. What like Perth do? I'll neber forget them booing Gaze during his speech. The most successful franchise no doubt but definitely no class.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Ok congrats to the Cats and all that, but imagine how much better we would have been with 3 imports

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Terrico will now want a $600K per season deal like Cotton. Is problem.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

Props to accepting an interview by McCarron. I always think it's cringe approaching players at moments like this.

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Timberball  
Earlier this year

Yesssssss!!!
9!!

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

What's cringe are those gaps in McCarron's facial hair.

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FM  
Earlier this year

Coach of the year has 3 of his best 5 sitting during the second qtr whilst Perth playing with starters.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

Nice Gesture from Goulding, giving Hire a couple more points to go out with.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Hopefully this is the last time I see a Michael Clark whatever his name is Wagner Vitamins ad.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Yes... incredible series...

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

I'm just happy to don't have to hear that Hungry Jacks advert 800 times every weekend for a few months.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

How much do US college coaches get paid. Actually think Gleeson's style suits that environment. Gets a lot out of role players and gets results without being flashy.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

We now all have a few months recovery time to deal with the PTSD from the horror of watching all the repetitive ads.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

MVP MVP MVP MVP

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

So this is what a real MVP looks like.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

"SHOW. ME. THE. MONEY."

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

#$600Kper

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Damo and Jesse now have the Infinity Gauntlet

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Damo and Jesse now have the Infinity Gauntlet

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Damo and Jesse now have the Infinity Gauntlet

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

White absolutely deserving of the GF MVP, more on that later.

Watching this series has confirmed for me that the best player in the league, over the whole season, was hands down Casper Ware.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

casper "where?"

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LV  
Earlier this year

Well done Perth- the better team.

Brought their A game this whole series except game 2.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Empty congratulations from LV.

Well done.

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Btown  
Earlier this year

"
Watching this series has confirmed for me that the best player in the league, over the whole season, was hands down Casper Ware."

26% 20% 25%, wares Fg% the last 3 games. Yeh he really stepped up

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I have a nickname.  
Earlier this year

Casper who?
Melbourne were terrible.
Cotton and White outstanding.
One of the worst GF seasons I have seen in 30+ years of watching them.

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Mock  
Earlier this year

I have to admit we were the best team. White made the haters eat their words and will go down in Cats folklore. Trev proved he is a great motivator and leader YET AGAIN. This team has championship DNA.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Casper is top quality, no doubt, and he did a pretty good job of slowing Cotton down. But he clearly paid for it at the other end, and overall Cotton was still an effective player offensively even though his points were down.

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Money Makin Mitch McCarro  
Earlier this year

Maybe Matty Neilsen can finally get some shut eye now. Man looks like he hasn't slept for a whole month

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

As I said, over the season.
Did his best in the GF, but was well held, which is one of the reasons we won.
NB: Without the injury, I think Cotton is better.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

With the way this post season went, should've just crowned the top of the ladder at the end of the season, ala Football.

For Melbourne Ware was poor. Goulding was his usual self - hero threes and not a lot else. Boone looked old. Kennedy was poor today but I thought Melbourne just went away from him after he missed the two post up attempts. I think they should have kept with it. McCarron and Barlow the only real signs of life for Melbourne overall. A very mediocre finish, and a terrible showing in a finals series. Last year's finals series made this look like a Div 5 social comp final by comparison.

Obviously Perth's D and hustle is a big part of why Melbourne (game 2 aside) never took off, hats off to them - bounced back after the 2nd poorest stretch of the season by any team. But like I said above, let's never speak of this series again and just enjoy the lack of Hungry Jacks adverts for the next couple of months.

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Bol  
Earlier this year

Melbourne should have done better in the second and third quarter exploiting perths early foul trouble. Credit to the cats bench players for playing their role to a tee and to white and cotton for finding the open man when they were doubled.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just saw in Olgun Uluc article about the game that Kennedy had a -29
Kay was Cats best with +23

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

AngusH, I agree with your summary but would add that Vickerman was also poor.

Perth didn't see to have too much trouble scoring by playing as a TEAM, while Melbourne seemed to need to rely on hero ball and poor reffing too much to stay in it.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Best regular season followed by one of the worst playoffs - agreed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Just got home.
Gleeson so out coached Vickerman, Melbourne needed a defence player who could take boards and he put on Hooley, subbed Casper for Barlow, never mixed it trying to mark White, runs an offence for two players only, Goulding and Ware and at one stage had them on bench together. Some Melbourne big name players turn overs at crucial times all series didn't help.
Perth are so team orientated, obviously Cotton and White were excellent, but Kay’s work on D and rebounding was so much better than anything Melbourne could throw at them, with good help from Brandt and Jervis.
Well done the the wildcats, so much better, and it shows backing Australian players with two good imports is better than three imports plus a system that stands up.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where is that idiot that posted LK was going to rig the series and Melbourne would win 3-1. He probably looking for the Easter bunny. :):):)

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Hoopie  
Earlier this year

Obviously the refs stood up to Larry to make sure the Red Army could rub it in his face in Melbourne.

Counting down the seconds until the new conspiracy theory that LK was letting Perth win so that next year's GF has more riding on it, to boost TV audiences.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

Good to see the team that played the more consistently cohesive brand of basketball win it all. Although this GF series needed a close game or a game 5 to redeem itself.

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Just  
Earlier this year

Hire was +14 in less than 9 minutes of court time. I don't think that was a fluke, really changed the momentum when he first got on court. He's going to be massively missed by the Cats.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hire has been playing injured for a while now. I think it is the same calf that keeps getting strained. (Although somebody said it was the other one, so maybe both are dodgy)
I know he plays with a lot of pain which is why he's been on limited minutes, but once again stood up when it matters.
Dead-set legend.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

As somebody said above, Jervis probably saved his career with these last couple of games. Literally stood tall when it mattered. His ability to match Boone and Pledger was critically important.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

Cats with a demolishing. I said it before and I'll say it again, you're going to struggle when Hooley and Moller eat up the majority of your bench minutes. Utter trash players.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hooley + Moller played less than 8% of uniteds bench minutes

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LV  
Earlier this year

Last week when I suggested Perth had superior depth to United, I was told I was "reverse woofing"

Now Perth fans are allowed to say it

Norton, Steindl and Jervis were starters for other teams. They've started over 200 NBL games between them.

Wagstaff and Hire are veterans who've each played the last 6 years under Gleeson.

Of course, guys like Hooley and Moller could yet have careers like that. But the point is, right now they're still inexperienced and relatively unproven.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You got play before you can be condemned, Moller last season was fantastic, Hooley was good to. Melbourne could have used someone who could play D and rebound today, he had 2/3 minutes today and in that time Melbourne turned it over twice playing iso ball, hard to show much in that time when all you are doing is chasing on D.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Moller is too limited offensively right now, and needs to improve before deciding big minutes

Depends on teammates though. Last season had Wesley at the 4 and 2018 Boone. Then Casper and CG. Moller could fit in and his lack of offense wasn't an issue

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LV  
Earlier this year

Deserving* big minutes

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

LV
Moller job for Melbourne wasn't to be offensive weapon, it was to take boards and play D, very hard to be offensive when you are playing in short stints and averaging about ten minutes a game, he averaged over 23 points a game in the seabl championship team and over 12 boards. You don’t do that in the United team where offence is run for Ware and Goulding. He should’ve been put on White to slow him down, go back to game three and watch the one on ones between White and Moller and you will see what I mean. McCarron and Kennedy took all his time which probably can’t be argued about but they were over strong in that position. He should’ve played the four spot behind Barlow, who got over used and tired as season went on imo.

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LV  
Earlier this year

Fair call.

Like you say, Barlow did tire at times- eg: During the Sydney series and game 1 in Perth he didn't contribute much. Moller could play the 4 a bit.

I don't think Moller's ready to be a starter but I was hoping he'd get a few more minutes than last season. Unfortunately, didn't happen. He's 24 and has only been back playing basketball for 3 years. There's still time.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

Feel free to quote me in 5 years time, Moller and Hooley will amount to nothing in the NBL, if they ever get a starting gig it would be worse than Cadee starting. Screenshot this and get back to me...

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LV  
Earlier this year

Moller to me looks a lot like a young Tommy Greer, but with a bit more potential

Greer ended up captaining the Tigers and started for a couple of seasons. Moller could do the same or better.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Haters going to hate, especially the ones that have done nothing. In 5 years senator 11 your name will be gone to some other stupid name because of all the crap you talk it will be an embarrassment. Have a nice day. ::))

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

It's my opinion and I'll stand by it wrong or right, under my name and not some anon account because you're too scared to back your own opinion.

Vague will have a better and more successful career than both too, how do like them apples?

Eagles win at the MCG, 6 months later Wildcats win in Melbroune...safe to say the West owns Victoria.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Hopefully Senator11 ends up with egg on his face like Senator19 did.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

I'll go a bit easier on my comments...I realise the hate we have copped over here in WA first from AFL media then by NBL media prior to winning both has compounded and caused me to vent hate back. We cop a lot of shit over here, unwarranted, media bias is ruthless, it does feel good when you get them to shut up.

Anyway, congrats wildcats, bad luck United. Bring on AFL 2019 and then back for NBL 2019/2020.

Sport in Australia is the big winner!

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Just for the record, I don't have any problem with people making predictions. Even when it is negative predictions, it's all good if people are willing to put their name (or username) on the line. That goes for Homicide too. He says some silly stuff, but a) it sucks a lot of people in to engaging about the NBL; b) he is fine with admitting when he is wrong, and c) I don't feel like his comments come from a nasty place (his Cadee post being an exception - and one he retracted and apologised for). To me that's what separates him from say Shane Heal, whose comments are regularly tainted by nastiness, and who is willing to dish it out but unable to cop it back.

As much as I hope Senator is wrong and hope that every young aussie player in the league goes on to be much better, it's not like I think they all will. As much as I like Moller, I also liked every time he put up a jump shot in the finals. I haven't studied Hooley's game long enough to have an opinion about his ceiling.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Goulding season average was 39%, Ware 40% Moller 42%. There's a long way to go judging a player who has really only been playing three seasons, played in two GF winning one and won one seabl GF also played for boomers. Time will tel how it all pans out but and criticisms are fine built around actual fact.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

A season average of 42% is what's proving he is going to be good?!? Those "fact" percentages are a terrible comparison as Ware and Goulding are taking a lot more shots and are taking tougher shots due to the person defending them.

The "eye" test has been used for decades and that's always going to be good enough to make a judgement right or wrong. You can't predict a players future based on FG % for 1 season...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ok I'll go with your superior knowledge, but just mention your man Vague shot at 31%. Anyway I’m done enjoy the championship and Kay was your season mvp imo.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

Ok, I'm done with responding to anons.

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Tom  
Earlier this year

Ware, Kennedy, Goulding 10 of 36.
COTTON, WHITE 17 of 35.
Series over.

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rjd  
Earlier this year

"A season average of 42% is what's proving he is going to be good?!?"

Actually, he shot 44% from the field including 33% from 3 and over 50% from 2pt range during the regular season. That's respectable, especially for someone relatively new to basketball. It was his loss of form in the playoffs, with 29% from the field and 13% from 3, that pulled the FG% down to 42%. Even including this playoff slump, his FG%, 3pt% and FT% were +6, +4 and +7 from the season before. It would've been +8, +9 and +9 if we assessed him before the playoffs began. You don't see that as a promising level of improvement, at least with respect to his shooting?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Last week when I suggested Perth had superior depth to United, I was told I was "reverse woofing"

Could only laugh at the talk of Melbourne's depth. They had one of the skinniest benches in the league by design, having spent big on the first seven who were a very talented group.

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Senator11  
Earlier this year

RJD, As Moller gets more game time and more experience of course he's going to improve and I would expect that, natural progression of a young player. Do I think he'll ever be a "great" player? No I don't, I think he will struggle to be legitimate starter, unless he ends up at a smaller market team, the Kings and United's are always going to pay up, especially for players in his position. Using Wildcats as a comparison, I see him fitting somewhere between Hire and Wagstaff, but peak Wagstaff would be his absolute ceiling IMO.

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

"Could only laugh at the talk of Melbourne's depth They had one of the skinniest benches in the league by design, having spent big on the first seven who were a very talented group "

I guess there's depth, and then there's depth

With 11 man rosters (plus DPs) and 40 minute games, you don't need a lot of minutes from the end of your bench Although some of the poorer teams struggles to put 4 stars on the floor, most coaches prefer a strong rotation of 6~7, maybe 8 tops

In the case of these two teams, I think comparing their top 7 is fair:

Martin Ware
Cotton McCarron
White Kennedy
Kay Barlowe
Brandt Boone
Norton Goulding
Wagstaff Pledger

Different blends, but I'd say that on the whole they compare favourably I'd give a clear offensive edge (on an average day) to Melbourne

Now if we look at the full depth:

Jervis Moller
Steindl Hooley
Hire Smith-Milner
Vague Jois

I think we can see that Gleeson being able to get quality minutes from the end of his bench was a clear advantage

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D2.0  
Earlier this year

As for Moller, fans need to remember that he once played for the Fremantle Muppets, and as such he is forever tainted in the eye of most West Australians.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

#831
Hard to tell how good the Melbourne bench was as so many close games Vickerman only played 7, to the detriment of the team in the end. Hooley, Moller Trist, Smith-Milner got minutes here and there, vey hard to play like that. Gleeson gave his rotation guys time and even started Vague through there slump, other coaches as well Wright, Bevo etc get there bench on. Experience wise the Perth bench was far better as well but you got play them for experience. Don't get me started on the Jois debacle.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

D2.0
You got the match ups wrong.
Jarvis-Smith Milner
Steindl-Moller
Hire-Hooley
Vague-Jois.

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