Anonymous
Earlier this year

Junior Div 1 Coaching Lineups

Just saw Southern has announced their lineup, anyone other clubs announced theirs yet. Haven't scrolled through every club so thought I'd ask if any others have come out. One surprise for me at Southern though.

Girls
U10 - Aaron Bland
U12 – Lisa Gill
U14 – Katie Scholes
U16 – Tara Dodman
U18 – Ryan Byrne

Boys
U10 – Michelle Fisher
U12 – Shane Boal
U14 – Ryan Vivian
U16 – Jayden Forte
U18 – Peter Berry

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Berry in to rescue the 18 boys
Where is Jury ? not on the list and haven't seen him at Premier League for a few games

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No applicants at some clubs

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

A few don't list their head coaches until just before trials. Some years not even until list posted.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

forte isnt a coach he is a cheer leader

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

which clubs havent had applicants

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How can someone know some clubs had no applicants ? Really.

Many will have some continue on and already agreed to that and then when they get other applications in they need to balance it all to make sure coach matches teams and abilities, and the work and family balance of all their coaches in relation to training times and games. Great clubs work at it and don't just randomly plonk coaches in thinking its all okay. And others don’t try to gloat either like they have a great team because they have done this and that. You just need to look at how a team was when they arrived and what shape they were in when they finish with that coach. Thats a pretty good measure. Take a look at Junior ladder positions, if you know the players you can take a guess at who are good coaches or just mates with the right people. Just because someone is doing something, it doesn’t mean they are good at it, qualifications don’t even matter in fact. Its the motivation, the natural talent and desire to do right by the juniors. They are no pawns in a coaches game to be used and yelled at by protected unaccountable coaches.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where is Dean Nyburgs?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The buffet probably

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jayden is a clown, literally. Did he bring out the hula hoops at Southern like when he was at Norwood or waiting to get these 16s.
Lot of Norwood rejects making up that lineup.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Surprised Vivian wanted to coach boys

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Taking after footsteps of Mesecke!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

More than one club has not had many/any applicants. One of the easiest ways to tell that is that every parent is beeing begged to coach.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Or sons of coach

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why would you these days. Years ago parents were glad to have a decent coach, now most have stars in their eyes and if their kid isn't getting minutes in div 1 then it's the coach to blame.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

cant be south apparently they are interviewing coaches

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

EM

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Well South nailed it with their Premier League men's selection!!!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Forestville, any others???

BOYS

Under 10 - Trudy Sheffield
Under 12 - Steve Shinnick
Under 14 - Paul Harris
Under 16 - Andrew Simons & Jason Dix
Under 18 - Brad Haydon

GIRLS

Under 10 - Kylie Newbold
Under 12 - Jodie Bell
Under 14 - Darryl Crump
Under 16 - Damian Weeks
Under 18 - Lynne Holland
Under 23 - Brian Penna

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Looks like Forestville are finally getting serious about their boys program.

U16 - Simons and Dix
U18 - Haydon

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The 16s and 18s are performing better than the 12s and 14s this season

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The U14's are going up to U16’s, they’ll have a lot of work on their hands

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Correct. Maybe Forestville should take their u10-14 boys seriously since that's where the talent deficit is.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Expect big recruiting drive

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Surely Andy wouldn't go after anyone from another club to boost his chances to win?????
(BTW, can you get junior imports?)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Ole man Andy is gonnna coach like it the 80s again. Forestville Vs West clashes on Fridays will be like a timewarp.

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

Forestville have finally realised they need to make changes to their Boys coaching program - which is a good thing.
I'd have thought getting guys like Simmons, Dix and Haydon in as coaches t those levels would be a positive for the club and the competition as a whole - but it seems pot shots are the best some can come up with.

There has been a big discrepancy between the girls program and the boys at Forestville for a long time now and I'm sure the club is hoping that seeing the coaches that are there in U16 and U18 will encourage some other players to move across. I'm not sure it is recruiting as such, but more offering coaching of high quality to attract boys across. Once it does it will hopefully filter down and fill in the talent deficit.

The good thing is that across the clubs it looks like there are a lot of quality Div 1 coaches in a range of age groups. Can only be a good thing for all the kids involved in basketball.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Captain Obvious, you are clearly from Forestville. You just don't get it. Already talking about "bringing talent across".

Talent is developed on and off the floor. This misconception by the old schoolers, that can't coach, that it grows on trees is the precise issue with basketball. Ego based coaches thinking they can seriously influence the outcome on gamenight by some kind of magic, not realising that PLAYERS win games. Producing players is much more nurture than nature. And what you do on gamenight has little to do with it. You have to develop those players and if you do that you might get the odd one land on your lap too.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I remember the last HP Manager once saying, great players will become great no matter what they do or which program they come from. Fascinating assertion to come from someone that is paid to develop players. Actually quite funny. That is the prevailing view amongst many that just don't know where to begin, only where to end. There's much more to it and that is supposed to be why these ppl have a job!

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

Interesting comment #754161
There have been plenty of talented boys come through Forestville, so it's not just about development at the club. Unfortunately a number of those have 'landed in the lap' of other clubs. One age group alone had 5 State players move to other clubs (3 at Sturt, 1 at North and 1 at South).
It's not so much the development of talent, but the retaining and attracting that's cost the boys program in comparison to other clubs. I suspect the coaches appointments are to help develop the players they have, to keep the best players and hopefully to then have some 'land in their laps' as well. It's only doing exactly what other clubs have done.

My point was more about basketball in general benefitting from having coaches of that quality in the junior programs (as many clubs have) rather than Forestville specifically. I'm not sure why the hate, but each to their own.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Great, if those can develop. We will see.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Interesting that HP managers kid went through three different clubs too.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"It's not so much the development of talent"

Thanks for the contribution, Captain oblivious.

Developing talent, team-first attitudes and a love of the game is everything. You're just encouraging poaching, which is a bandaid fix for clubs and does nothing to benefit basketball in SA.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Captain Obvious. If you forget short term fixes and take some lumps in the short term you build a program. THose kids will win and succeed much bigger later on. To be honest, your view is in the majority though.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Plenty good life skills in playing by the rules will be strong at eagles. Old school. Get the win. Bring it on... people never happy.

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

#754174
I fear you struggle with reading comprehension.

My comment demonstrated clearly that the issue in the boys program at Forestville wasn't developing players, it was keeping them. They developed plenty of good players - they just left and went elsewhere to 'win'. And yes a number of them were poached.
The coaching appointments look to me to be about providing coaches that will keep their own players rather than losing more of them.

Anyway the whole point is that Forestville have made moves by appointing really good coaches to strengthen the boys program from top to bottom. It's a good thing.

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mmmmm  
Earlier this year

Isn't the Boys program at Forestville so bad due to Dickel as JDO while he was there?

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

I would be interested to hear what Richard was like as a JDO at Eagles and how long he was there for?

My understanding of the issues at Eagles is that they just don't have enough quality coaches in the boys program. They have the numbers of players but no one to development them. They are looking to change this now with the new coaches and direction. Also issues with culture and politics (as does most clubs). Some boys are talented but they put them in the wrong divisions. If they start getting things right then they could turn it around quickly.

With a new JDO at Woodville and some positive moves at Eagles hopefully they both can succeed to make basketball in the state stronger.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Forestville as a club just don't value player development.

It is all about recruitment. It is more of a cultural issue than anything. Through culture longstanding members develop beliefs that drives decisions, perspectives in many regards be it what they value in players as well as coaches.
This dictates who stays, who goes, who is talent id'd etc.

THAT is very hard to break and I can't see anything changing going forward. It is not about the people involved, they can't help what their inherent beliefs and values systems are. Not even saying there is anything wrong with it. It has obviously helped them be fairly successful at senior level.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

339 has pretty much nailed it.

No club really develops players that will always be left to the parents and the player to put in the time.

Unless their playing stocks are so low that's all they have left is to develop, although even then I have seen politics/nepotism take precedence over development.

Remember it takes time and no club is willing to invest in long term planning because like politics the performance measure time frame is too small and only success is the measure.

If the measure was player turn over or tracking the performance improvement of age groups through the years as a constant then you would understand who develops teams and who recruits team development there is a distinct difference.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

North Girls

U10 - Scott Loveday
U12.1 - Barry Mansfield
U12.2 - Sam Ninnes
U12.3 - Kelly Laird
U14.1 - Carla Saponari
U14.2 - Casey & Taylor Goggins
U14.3 - Montana Willmott
U14.4 – Renee Fairchild
U16.1 - Lyndsee Frost
U16.2 - Leanne Zacharko
U16.3 - Tim Ingram
U16.4 - Caitlyn Kunde (assisted by Martin Kunde)
U18.1 - Dave Evans
U18.2 - Rob Zoanetti
U18.3 - Andrew Morris

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Forestville juniors currently in Premier League

Forestville:
Mike Harris
Cam Bell
Lewis Rowe
Zac Camerlango
Kane De Wit
Majok Deng
Jalen Croxton
Dan Moriarty
Chris Artacho

Elsewhere:
Zac Lovell
Brad Jonnek
Hamish Burns
Tim Smyth
James Boonstoppel
James Adcock
Lachie Hunter
Mitch Hunter
Darcy Aistrope
Tom Cromarty
Rigby Alphabet
Nick Bowler

so 13 went elsewhere after juniors or after multiple years in juniors
and most of current PL roster besides Teys, Rios, Mays, Winter (?)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I think we are trying to figure out if this person is actually hating on Forestville or not. Based on this information it seems they are. Yes, we know the Cheatgles don't develop guys. There are a couple of good ones there though forsure.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

More have been let down by the cheatgles on this list than developed.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

494 have you got the North coaches for the boys program?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Gee that Forestville list looks like a "who's who" of recycled players that Mavs PL have taken in over the years.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

its interesting how some clubs can organise trials and get coaches organised and announced early, yet some clubs havent

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Braiden ousey and Brad rathjen to add to the list?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Strongly doubt a few clubs would know who their coaches will be.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Trials on the 18th and 25th for a lot of clubs, surely you'd have at least head coaches placed by now in readiness for that?

External trials for some clubs this week, how is a player supposed to decide whether to attend or not if they don't know who coaches are?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

1. It's a trial, not a commitment.
2. If you want to know, then ask beforehand. Worst-case scenario is they don't disclose and you don't bother.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I love the forestville list of guys who many have played juniors at multiple clubs before playing a season with the eagles so they must have developed them!
Sturt are the only club who can claim juniors on more than one summer seasons worth.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

714 that is possibly the dumbest response ever on hoops.

We're talking about clubs NOT KNOWING who their head coaches are, and your solution is to ask them? How the hell are they supposed to answer if they don't know?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

***Club Announcement***

In a big week of news, the club board have approved the trial appointment of Sharon Simons in the role of Junior Development Manager. This is an increase to her previous role of Head Junior Development Officer.

Sharon will take over responsibility of the junior basketball program including District, Aussie Hoops, Eagles Academy and Mini Eagles. She will also be responsible to develop and support our junior coaching group and implement a Forestville 'Style of Play' with input from our experienced group of new Age Group Coordinators.

The club board have found that due to increased growth, the club needed to invest heavily in the development of our young athletes and current coaches so they can all reach their full potential.

This appointment will allow Club Manager, Shane Croxton to focus his energy into the day to day administration of the club, grow our Domestic teams, support the sponsorship committee and provide ongoing support to our Premier League and senior teams.

We wish Sharon all the best for her new position and hope it is the start of a new era of success for the club!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

720, this was the question:

"how is a player supposed to decide whether to attend or not if they don't know who coaches are? "

"They", in this context being the player. So in fact, the topic I responded to was not about "clubs NOT KNOWING who their head coaches are".

Moron.

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Hanging Round  
Earlier this year

Agree that if you don't know who is coaching at a particular club then ask the question.
If they haven't got appointments then you will know straight away.
Just because a club doesn't put announcement on Hoops, doesn't mean that positions haven't been appointed

No need for nasty name calling

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Mavs hilarious

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

735, comprehension is not your strong point, is it?

Moron? Pot. Kettle.

And here's me thinking your last post was dumb, then you went and outdid yourself.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

COACHES NAMED FOR 2019-20 JUNIOR BOYS
The Junior Operations Group are pleased to announce the following Coaches for our Boys teams for the 2019-20 District season. Congratulations.


Coaches in Division 3 and below will be assigned teams once player placements are known. The names listed are in no particular order.


Again, Congratulations all, and all the very best.


U10.1 - Kevin Rock
U10.2 – Rachel Meyer


U12.1 – Dallas Quigley
U12.2 – Harrison Taylor
U12.3 – Matt Sparkman
U12.3/4/5 – Dylan Hall; Brett Aistrope; Hellen Ollivier; Jason Bing


U14.1 – Joel Juncken
U14.2 – Jamie Gower
U14.3/4/5 – Cooper Davis; Tim Thornley; Branson Palmer; Rod Bainbridge; Jayden DeMeo; Zak Moore


U16.1 – Adam Todd
U16.2 – Sam McGough
U16.3.1 – Gary Saponari
U16.3.2 – Jamie Gower
U16.3/4/5 – Craig Wintle, Ryan Lloyd, David Durant, Kris Pretty


U18.1 – Ahmed Alani
U18.2 – Rod Herrera
U18.3/4/5 – Lucas Sterry, Brodie Guidolin, Martin Kunde, Mitch Manticos

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Some interesting appointments at Rockets

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

South and Woodville probably the only clubs that haven't announced

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^ and West?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Centrals??? Willie still probably scratching his head.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Have I missed Sturt's?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

willie doesnt pick coaches, not in his job description, he only chats to parents and sells fairytales

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mavs listings must be an all time low for a club that doesn't have many teams? A club in free fall!!!!

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Hogwash 30  
Earlier this year

Above absolutely true
Social club at best
People left and leaving in droves
U18 g coach named never coached a challenging team and demands same group every year to ride mediocre success and still had to get help
Was on the boys program for years and that was/ is terrible
Coincidence?
Hope a new committee can be formed and save Mavs but certainly not with that lineup


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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Any Norwood news about lineups?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As far as Eastern Mavs go as a club "you reap what you sow". If the culture is terrible and there is no direction from the top down you will seal your fate for many more years to come. Nothing is a quick fix after years of damage and many coaches choose not to be a part of a club with a bleak future. Juniors (parents) will take the option of travelling down the freeway to be involved with a club that actually offers a future.

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

My understanding is that West have delayed announcements as there have been some challenges to appointments at board level. It seems they appointed coaches and then had some conflict to sort out. Not sure where it is at yet, but there was some real issues there.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As much as clubs providing some substance around their coaching announcements these days is good I don't understand why everyone wants to know before hand.

Clubs that are successful at development have a highly experienced, expert Coaching Director in place, long history of attracting and appointing outstanding coaches and a proven player development culture, process, prioritisation and practice over many years.

Coaching appointments do help predict trends and direction but if you are deciding your club on who is coaching next season, rather than longer term components, then you are moving or staying for the wrong reasons.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

031

absolutely rubbish, if you are at a club and they have announced a coach that is completely incompetent, and you really dont want to waste your time and money with that coach, of course those people want to know who is coaching at other clubs

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cat  
Earlier this year

050

You're the perfect example of the parent best seen leaving the place. Nothing worse than parents in a Club forming their expert opinion on Coaches, knowing better and shipping out to another Club immediately. The lessons taught to their children is instant gratification, me,me,me. No admirable traits of Club loyalty and sticking by a team through thick and thin.Grass is always greener types are NEVER great Club stalwarts. See ya!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Club Loyalty now that's funny.

Are these the same clubs that accept new players particularly in the lower grades and then after playing one game tell the parents that there is going to be a rotation policy on playing each week that does not apply to the coaches or team managers child.........wheres your club loyalty then........or a club that says yep your a div x player then half way through the season says we need to develop next years players, player x and y you have to go down a grade ok then what do they need to develop to retain the place oh nothing its just club policy......I think you view on club loyalty may not have seen some of the behaviours I have seen.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

cat

got nothing to do with club loyalty, i would rather my son not climb through hoola hoops at division 1 trainings

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Anon  
Earlier this year

"a club that says yep your a div x player then half way through the season says we need to develop next years players, player x and y you have to go down a grade"

Sorry to hear your kids shit, but sounds like the club tried to let them down nicely.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So trials started today and the next few weeks, any news on the clubs like woodville, west, centrals etc. Despite the arguments above, amateur to not announce coaches before trials.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Centrals been out for a few days now

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Where?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Took ages but I found them.

Centrals committee would like to congratulate the following coaching groups on their successful appointments for the upcoming Summer season.

U10G
Corie Russell

U10B
Curtis Scaife
Mel Partington
Mel Hughes
Anthony Francis

U12G
Marie Phillips

U12B
Travis Munday
Matt Bain
Daniel Bain
Brett Sander
Karl Bomford
Herbert Legaspi

U14G
Scott Herriman

U14B
Lee Thomas
Braeden Jackson
Keegan Hall
Ben Thomas
Rob Thomas

U16G
Willie Jennette
Wayne Andersen

U16B
Toby Lockwood
Chris Jolly
Brad Harris
Daniel Bain
Aiden Luke

U18G
Sean Richards
Nisa Sexton
Nicole Smart
Courtney McGowan

U18B
Rupert Sapwell
Keegan Hall
Jarrod Hall
Luke Liccione
Sharon Hallett

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Any real surprises at Centrals?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Willie coaching not surprising, keeping seat warm for Boone if she comes back. But he'll have to recruit heavily in that group

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Absolute coincidence that the Centrals presidents daughter is in that age group Willie is taking. And another coincidence that KB was coaching his wife in PL. Guess nepotism isn't just for Norwood.
Wonder where this money is coming from, crying poor and couldn't afford a JDO. Hopefully the finances are looked after or that it's a dip in the prezs own pocket.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Well Norwood haven't finalised their appointment yet ? JDO probably has to any hats on but one thing for sure parent coaching daughter/son happens at all clubs. Usually most of those children aren’t good enough to be in the team but clubs need coaches so it is looked over

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nat  
Earlier this year

where is Toby from Centrals's Div 1 boys coaching?

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nat  
Earlier this year

Don't worry I see he has followed up his super group... Sean Richards coaching 18 girls ....

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Supergroup? That group next year finished second at State Champs.

A good bunch of boys but hardly a supergroup though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Sorry that group last year finished second at State Champs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Has West announced their coaches yet? Trials this Sunday

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

And Norwood and Woodvilles?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

One more year for Mavs to bottom out completely it's seems.
When is the new committee going to be announced or are they struggling to fill spots there too?
Hell might even start getting some families back if they take the opportunity to change.
Could they even get players back in pl if there is a change? Let’s hope so unless there whole goal is to be one big social club with eastern hills!
Have to make some ballsy stance first but looking unlikely with coaches announced. All time low everywhere with coaches announced except u18 boys.
Due diligence? When club appointed others - I think not.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As a complete outsider, has anyone else put their hands up to help at Eastern? Bit hard to change things if there are no new volunteers, especially at committee level. Otherwise the same people do the same jobs and rot continues to accumulate.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They sure have but could not make headway's so lost passion

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Eastern Mavericks

Girls
U10 - Amanda Williams
U12 - Joshua Lloyd
U14 – Shaun Bell
U16 – James Rattus
U18 – Scott Rattus

Boys
U10 – Joshua Lloyd
U12 – Boyd Fitton
U14 – Daniel Wray
U16 – Haydon Sewell
U18 – Daniel Stratford

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mavericks junior program is definitely moving in the right direction with lots of positives going forward

A strong coaching panel in place for next season, with a developmental focus

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Hogwash  
Earlier this year

Oh please get off it
Due diligence??

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Due diligence?

Who do you have a problem with?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mavericks line-up is not exactly D1 & D2 standard appointments apart from about 3 in both boys and girls. Unfortunately there has been some really good coaches that were disenchanted or just plain frustrated with the committee or "development vision" of the club over the past decade and have moved to clubs that offer a better pathway or coaching opportunity.

Most good coaching directors actually head hunt coaches that they believe will both benefit the age group and the club, Mavs have burnt so many bridges in the past that this isn't a realistic option anymore and parents are asked do you know how to coach?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who has left (in terms of quality coaches) over the years? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just don't know their history particularly well.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nothing wrong with the coaches listed, most are proven successful coaches

A couple of newer ones, though solid

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You actually sound like a coach that may have left?

There is always two sides to most exits

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

Are West still having board issues with their coaches? You'd think they would have announced by now.

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FTB  
Earlier this year


Eastern Mavericks D1 coaches only

Girls
U10 - Amanda Williams (former player/parent??)
U12 - Joshua Lloyd ??
U14 - Shaun Bell Yes
U16 – James Rattus Yes
U18 – Scott Rattus Yes but followed a group he has already had for 2 years. Normally clubs don't do this as it is unhealthy.

Boys
U10 – Joshua Lloyd ??
U12 – Boyd Fitton ??
U14 – Daniel Wray ??
U16 – Haydon Sewell ??
U18 – Daniel Stratford (Parent but looks like a decent choice)

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Eastern Mavericks D1 coaches only

Girls
U10 - Amanda Williams (former player/parent??)
U12 - Joshua Lloyd ?? - Very well respected at Mavs Current u16girls 2
U14 - Shaun Bell Yes
U16 - James Rattus Yes
U18 – Scott Rattus Yes but followed a group he has already had for 2 years. Normally clubs don't do this as it is unhealthy. - True however the right decision in this case, and a successful coach

Boys
U10 – Joshua Lloyd ?? Very well respected at Mavs Current u16girls 2
U12 – Boyd Fitton ?? years of State involvement current u14B 2
U14 – Daniel Wray ?? Former PL player South Great coach
U16 – Haydon Sewell ?? SA Country program coached div 1 16 previously
U18 – Daniel Stratford (Parent but looks like a decent choice)u16 boys SAC Head coach

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Eastern Mavericks D2 coaches - Excellent depth of coaches

Girls
U12 - Britany Spooner - Current PL Player
U14 - Bianca Christian - apprentice under Steve Knight and Scott Rattus
U16 - Danny Millard - SAC u18 boys coach

Boys
U12 – Tracey Barns - Current u14 boys undefeated
U14 – Lachlan Warhurst - Club player, senior program and former cadet coach, very good coach early in his career
U16 – Nathon Jones - Current joint BM, Former WNBL, Former PL, former, SAC
U18 – Malcolm Penno - SAC Coach, former Sturt, current joint Basketball Manager

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I like how we've swung from Mavs lineup being disastrous and a sign of the club's impending demise, to a lineup of all-stars.

Not surprising how little objectivity there is, and quite funny.

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

The Mavs hater is obviously some bitter person wanting their juniors to go poorly so they can feel better about themselves. Unfortunately the facts are that they have put together a strong group of coaches. That with the new stadium will hopefully lead to getting more juniors out and making them more competitive. Good work Mavs on your appointments.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

West:

BOYS:

U10.1: Blake Truslove
U10.2: Alice Gee
U12.1: Dion Grieger
U12.2: Corey Maclean
U14.1: Mark Williamson
U14.2: Tynan Benzija
U16.1: Brendan Mann
U16.2: Kienan Benzija
U18.1: Peter Ali & David Spear
U18.2: Brett Marinoff

GIRLS:

U10.1: Amy Grieger
U10.2: Irene Sourlatzis
U12.1: Amy Porter
U12.2: Amy Grieger
U14.1: Karen Winter
U14.2: Michaela Lappin
U16.1: Morgan Treloar
U16.2: Andrew Nowak
U18.1: Joe Noone
U18.2: Michael Clifford

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

114
Correct
Also It is quite funny how the club perceives themselves. That there lies the problems.
Not a solid argument re coaches as short term thought considered only and previous recent history has been discounted.
Post again around state champs results.
I hope for the clubs sake also that there is a plan when the honeymoon of hire of the new school stadium comes to an end.
Hope there is an option for kids in the area going forward as the next population demands it.
The club has a great opportunity to embrace so let's hope a change and a re focus will cash in.
Still need a few more changes/people managed to get it done.

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Team Player  
Earlier this year

Looks like Westies have brought out the big guns on the boys side. Good to see.
Senior players and Coaches getting involved in the Junior game. Can only improve the standard of our kids basketball

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2019/2020 BOYS COACHING ANNOUNCEMENT
U10's - Shane Huppatz
Shane will continue in his position with the U10's and has been coaching for the last few seasons in this age group. He gets huge enjoyment in seeing the boys skills develop so quickly at this age. Shane enjoys seeing the start of their limitless basketball journey. He has been through the Norwood junior program as a parent with his 3 children still playing.
Div 2 coach: Jad Kilvert

U12's - Ben Lomman
After a successful season with the 12 Boys Div 2. Ben is moving into the more senior div 1 role. He is excited about coaching a group that will work hard, have fun and focus on doing the fundamentals well. Team ball wins! He's previously coached almost every age group, juniors and seniors over his long coaching career. His favourite drill is shell drill, box out and anything that focuses on decision making. He will be assisted by Kelly Sheedy.
Div 2 coach: Tanya Aldridge

U14's - Phil Keenihan
Returning to the U14 Boys for the 6th year, Phil has taken the boys to 4 consecutive National Club Championships. He's gotten a bronze medal at classics and won 3 state championships titles. He'll be looking to nurture this young group into National title contenders. He's been coaching for over 15 years at Norwood, doing both junior girls and boys and assistant coaching PL men and reserves women. Phil was coach of the year in 2016. He will be assisted by Jett Swaffer, one of his previous national players.
Div 2 coach: Tom MacDonald

U16's - Tim Odell
Tim is excited about coaching at a club that values both development and winning, as well as the opportunity to coach a talented up and coming group of kids. Tim most recently went away with SA Metro U16 Boys and won a bronze medal. He has coached U23 div 1 boys, U18 div 2 boys for many years, and he won Forestville's boys coach of the year in 2018. His favourite drill is 5v4 offensive advantage + anything that focuses on 1v1 defence. He will be assisted by Jarrod Hart.
Div 2 coach: Peter Rault

U18's - Chris Webber
Chris is returning to us after a very successful 2019 with the U18 Boys. They have developed and thrived under his coaching. Returning with him is assistant coach Jordy Wilson. Jordy brings a wealth of knowledge and experience having been involved for the last few years at this level as a coach and playing for our PL men.
Div 2 coach: Jason Champion

U23's - Travis Chard
Moving into a new role Travis brings knowledge from many age groups, he's been involved with PL men for a few years and attended U20's Nationals this year with SA Metro. He's been to many club nationals and classics during his years in U14 Boys. He is most excited to rebuild the path from juniors to seniors at Norwood.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What a wonderful work of fiction.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

West:

BOYS:

U18.1: Peter Ali & David Spear

Is this THE Peter Ali?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mavs are slightly off the boil on their coaching appointments compared to other clubs but in reality what do they have to pick from? I don't know any coach that is chomping at the bit to be at that club. Good luck to them its a growing area and perhaps this will bring people in? Having your headquarters based on school grounds isn't ideal as anything can happen

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes it is THE Peter Ali!

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

"Mavs are slightly off the boil on their coaching appointments compared to other clubs but in reality what do they have to pick from?"

Even if it is slightly off it is not the doom and gloom one poster is making it out to be.

"I don't know any coach that is chomping at the bit to be at that club."

You don't think proximity is an issue?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

To be honest I wouldn't mind coaching there, but it's just the drive there that puts me off. Same time as Centrals and Southern but it's just something about the trip there.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

See that Woodville are slowly leaking coaches on FB unless it's somewhere else I haven't seen.
14 boys must have a good team, Tim Berry doesn't coach inferior kids, normally hops to where contenders are.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

South Adelaide Basketball Club is proud to announce our Division 1 coaches for the 2019/20 season.

Under 10 Girls - Leanne Giltrow
Under 12 Girls – Harry Petkovich
Under 14 Girls – Belinda Szepessy
Under 16 Girls – Jeremy Cotterill
Under 18 Girls – Kelly Manning

Under 10 Boys – Terry Jones
Under 12 Boys – David Frick
Under 14 Boys – Jason Balfour
Under 16 Boys – Chad Friend
Under 18 Boys – Nicholas Wooden

After consultation with the head coaches, we will be naming their assistant coaches as well as coaches for all other divisions over the coming days.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Souths lineup easily the weakest.

Anyone want to have a go at ranking the clubs lineups?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Souths lineup is made up of committee people and friends from premier league down

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Souths lineup is made up of committee people and friends from premier league down

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the uneducated  
Earlier this year

West 18 boys will be good - those lads are very fortunate. Will be a good brand of basketball played.

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Ole timer  
Earlier this year

Yes yes. Great brand of bball. It will be like the 80s/90s in terms of playing style and how they are coached. Bring it all back. Can't wait.

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P  
Earlier this year

Who is coaching west's U18s this season?

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Annonn  
Earlier this year

Peter Ali,
He has been coaching 18 div 1 for years at West Adelaide

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P  
Earlier this year

Are we convinced he is a good coach?
When was the last time west made top 4 in 18s?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Probably around the same time he had talent to warrant a top 4 placing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Have Sturt announced their coaches?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

West are second bottom at the moment. Not such a wonder coach

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

"West are second bottom at the moment. Not such a wonder coach"

You could bring the best coaches in the state and they would still get the same result with the team West has. That same West Team (with a couple of different players) didn't win a game in under 16's if I remember correctly.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Not 1 committee member in South's Div 1 line-up. Not sure where you are making that up from. It is an ordinary line-up. Dickel clearly didn't recruit anything to bring to South. All talk no results

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Brunson, typical ole school mindset.

Ole school beleives, talent makes the program not the other way round.

It IS environment and time, effort and expertise invested into the athletes that develops them to their potential.

Ole school believes. Treat your players like crap and make it about coaches because talent will ultimately rise to the top - is ole school bulldust.

How many young athletes at West have hit their full potential in the last decade?

I love sitting back and laughing at how clueless these club bods are, because that is way it has always being done.

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Brunson  
Earlier this year

"Brunson, typical ole school mindset."

Actually ole school mindset is saying a team finished second last so the coach must not be good. The only metrics we have says that they have improved since under 16's. When the expectations is bottom of the ladder then that is a success.

"Ole school beleives, talent makes the program not the other way round."

true but being realistic is important. If the team you have is so off the pace then winning a few games is a successful season.

"It IS environment and time, effort and expertise invested into the athletes that develops them to their potential. "

Agreed but it makes it harder for players to catch up to the elite players in 16/18's as those players are getting extra training from elite coaching against elite players in state teams/high performance teams.

"Ole school believes. Treat your players like crap and make it about coaches because talent will ultimately rise to the top - is ole school bulldust."

Agreed. Too many extinct coaches thinking their old authoritative ways is the way to coach. When they don't get the results they are after they get even more abusive thinking they will get results. The game has changed and their ways have been proven to be ineffective yet they continue the same way.

"How many young athletes at West have hit their full potential in the last decade?"

What does full potential mean? Make it to a state team? Make it to college? It means to become the best player they can be. How are you quantifying they didn't make it to their full potential? You don't think Western Magic were a big reason why once strong clubs in West and Woodville are now both struggling?

"I love sitting back and laughing at how clueless these club bods are, because that is way it has always being done."

Agreed but instead of sitting back I hope you are helping whatever club you are involved with.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

060, so you think an elite coach would have taken this year's West u18 boys to a top 4 finish? This was the hypothetical Brunson was originally commenting about.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Anyone hanging shit on Ali as a coach has no idea. He and Speary do a great job with their 18s. Had some success early on but it's been lean pickings the last few years, through no fault of either of them.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Only thing I can fault with Ali and Spear is they tend to highlight 1 or 2 players and they're the only ones they run the same play to score. Not much motion or development of others. Sure the last few years they haven't had much but speaking to some parents kids got subbed out if they didn't get them the ball. And yes I know there's always the better kids that score in most teams, but actively discouraging kids to have a go is a bit sad.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2019/2020 GIRLS COACHING ANNOUNCEMENT
U10's - Andrew Filmer
Andrew has most recently been coaching Under 10-14 junior girls teams in the Norwood League & has a strong desire to see more U10 Girls developing the necessary individual and team skills required for a long and fulfilling time in Basketball. He brings an all around repetoire with over 35 years of coaching, officiating and playing.
Div 2 coach: Vinodh Nair

U12's - Teagan Stanley
Moving into this position from U14 boys Teagan is keen to focus on skill development. After playing for Norwood as a junior and her 7 years of coaching she is excited to bring her knowledge to this age group. Teagan enjoys helping young players develop and watching them fall in love with basketball. She has mostly recently gone away with State U16 Metro girls coaching staff and won a silver medal.
Div 2 coach: Brooke Keenihan

U14's - Shaun Ryan
Returning to the U14 Girls, Shaun is excited to continue working with this age group and their ongoing development. He returned to Norwood 3 years ago and he boasts a 20 year long resume of coaching, including premier men's and women and state juniors.
Div 2 coach: Matt Turnbull

U16's - Toby Schaftenaar
Toby started with U12 Div 2 boys last year, he has been lucky enough to assist both U12 Div 1 Boys and U14 Div 1 Girls this season. He loves defence and playing team ball and appreciates hard training sessions. He wants to instil intelligent basketball and build strong work ethics.
Div 2 coach: Jarrod Bishop

U18's - Matt Turnbull
Matt is moving into the U18 Girls after a successful season as head coach for U14G Div 3's with both teams making the top five. Matt assisted with the U16 Div 1 for two seasons before taking over as head coach this year. Matt has been involved with the girls program in various roles for the last 7 years and enjoys seeing players develop throughout the season with their knowledge, fundamentals and skills, both in life and basketball. Matt is a loyal Norwood member playing for the club from U10's through to Premier league and is looking forward to the season ahead.
Div 2 coach: Tahlia Evans

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Oh my
What are your fees again?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

2019/20 JUNIOR DIVISION 1 COACHES | We are pleased to announce our Division 1 Coaches for the 2019/20 seasons.

BOYS
Under 10 Boys - Carly Mitchell
Under 12 Boys – Adrian Couzner/Julia Meaden (Assistant)
Under 14 Boys – Shaun Jennings
Under 16 Boys – Alex Wright
Under 18 Boys – Jason Williams

GIRLS
Under 10 Girls – Lilly Eccelston/Julie Bell (Assistant)
Under 12 Girls – Jo Clark
Under 14 Girls – Katherine Mcphail/Morgan Tolley (Assistant)
Under 16 Girls – Ben Gliddon/Michelle Bernardi (Assistant)
Under 18 Girls – Marcus Wong/Georgia Crouch (Assistant)/Nicole Seekamp (Assistant)

All team coaches and assistance coaches will be announced in the coming weeks.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Laughing hard at Norwood coaching. Typical Norwood. Turnbull has coached every team he wants his daughters in, to ensure they are in it.

No div 1 coach should be getting a spot where their kid is.

Any other club his kids would be 2 divs below.

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Worthy  
Earlier this year

Anon
From what I can see, none of the Girls coaches at Norwood are likely to coach their own children?

Maybe U16 Girls but that's about it
Besides is it easy to get good coaches these days that don’t have children involved

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Besides is it easy to get good coaches these days that don't have children involved"

NO. It is not easy, not easy at all. Delivering high-quality service to your members is definitely not easy.

So yes, getting OK coaches to coach their kid's team is easy.

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Worthy  
Earlier this year

Anon. You mis-understood
I refer to "good coaches" who have kids playing

Not parents who agree to coach

Big difference
I

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Exodus from Centrals girls, not that there was much there to start with.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What age groups?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

North having parents and a grand parent coaching div 1 teams

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

16 and 18 girls

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Willie not coaching 16 girls as announced is the word going around.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Grades from what's been posted:

(Full time DO) Forestville A (excellent appointments)
(Full time DO) Sturt A- (still very good but not as good as previous years)
(Full time DO) Southern B+
(Part time DO) North B+
(Part time DO) West B
(Full time DO) Norwood C+ (wildcard)
(Full time DO) Centrals C (slipping)
(Part time DO) Eastern C- (only due to 3 decent name coaches)
(Full time DO) South D (worst line-up by a mile)

Woodville ??

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Who's coaching 16 girls at Centrals?

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Anon  
Earlier this year

North parents and grandparents coaching div1 teams ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Carlos, quite possibly the worst coach ever(except in his own mind). Was leading Woodville 16 div 2 girls to a terrible record and screaming and shouting. Was up Willies arse when he was at Norwood, absolutely a terrible decision, expect all the girls to quit Centrals. Lazy hire by Willie.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Carlos who?

How do you know this? Has it been posted somewhere?

Is he the reason why the girls are leaving?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

So in reality Centrals have taken Woodvilles rejects as their 14 and 16 coaches. Wonder if Benn will make a comeback to coach PL.
Funniest yet disturbing thing I saw was Carlos teaching girls how to do behind the back passes on backdoor cuts instead of worrying about overrated things like shooting, ball handling or passing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Assume you're talking girls programs as boys coaches are not from Woodville.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Yes

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

545 Mavs an "E"
Relative to south
One of the coaches you may think is ok just flips between winning teams and then brings in some to help him
He was with the boys program for years until 2 years ago and that was a real struggle street poor program
Along with pl coach
Coincidence on how the club is going?
Least his father was a great skills coach but has been appointed at the wrong end of age groups you need to grow the skill from the bottom.
Hope Nathon Jones can steer the club back on track! He is a good egg
I really think other clubs will pencil easy wins in against Mavs boys especially
A lot of players are now playing for other clubs or not playing at all and they are local
A couple more changes in the club are required first for them to reset or face a merge to a social club
Hope they can get a Committe together first and get going soon
Does the league need them anyway?

Best of luck

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Girls are leaving Centrals because they are being poached. Having been around the club the girls program has been ignored for ages. I have seen Carlos coach and what he did at Norwood and at Woodville was impressive. He is an upgrade in every way to what their past coaching has been.

Also I've heard the parents at Norwood protested him leaving as they all wanted him to stay but only a select loud influential few decided he was gone. My bet is anon 758571 is one of them.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Andrew Jantke to take over the North 18's team for the coming season.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Jojo been moved on by Norwood??

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Deaf  
Earlier this year

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Captain Obvious  
Earlier this year

Jantke move made after coaches were already announced. Seems a bit odd.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Why move except for the sole purpose of winning and saying he got more kids div 1 college scholarships. Go to freaking Eastern and turn that place around, wait, no publicity there!

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Jnr  
Earlier this year

Tiger will lose almost all their boys coaches next season with Dean leaving the club

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INTHELANE  
Two months ago

SO IT IS INTERESTING AFTER ONE ROUND OF THE SEASON WHAT SOME TEAMS WERE LIKE CONSIDERING THAT THEIR COACHES GOT A BASHING ON HERE. EVEN WITH AT LEAST FOUR STATE PLAYER NORWOOD ONLY WON BY 6 POINTS.

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anon  
Two months ago

Calm down and explain yourself properly as you aren't making any sense!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Keep the noise down please! And your point, its 1 game.

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outthelane  
Two months ago

In the scheme of things state players dont mean much in this situation. in a team of 9-10 players you have a mix of first year and second year players many who have never played together before and the likelihood of some players getting very few minutes. u16 state has now passed so theoretically there are no state players on the team there are now five u18 SA squad players who are yet to make the state teams but when you factor in positions, injury, first game, summer why even take the time to mention a win by 6 points who cares and what a time waster you are.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

^in laymans terms

shut up idiot

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Dunkman  
Two months ago

So talking about State players it's quite an impressive list of players for U18 so far.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Early predictions for 14 nationals??

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Anonymous  
Last month

Those born this year I'm calling Eastern to be national champs!

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Anonymous  
Last month

"West 18 boys will be good - those lads are very fortunate. Will be a good brand of basketball played."

the uneducated - how's this holding up so far? Bottom after 3 rounds, lost by 60 last Friday.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just taught to be robots, need a good player so absolutely everything is run for them. No good players mean they're shit. At least that old decrepit Dennis has shuffled off, main reason boys program were so terrible, just a cranky old pensioner with no clue.

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';'  
Last month

14 nationals tips:

Girls Sturt, Forestville and West..
Boys North, South and Norwood with West/Southern knocking on the door

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