Anonymous
Last month

Dickhead Refs - WHY do ne imports "need to adjust"??

What pisses me off is this whole notion that its perfectly acceptable for refs to be dickheads and "show new imports who's boss." WTF?

We should be reffing to FIBA rules, FIBA standards, and FIBA interpretations. That's it.

Guys coming from the NBA direct, ok sure. But those coming out of Europe should have no need to adjust.
If the rest of the world is doing it different, then we need to adjust, not the other way round.

Europe is our most likely exchange league, so it makes sense to minimise the differences.

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KET  
Last month

Saturday arvo on the piss?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Just what we need more referee bashing. Refs hated all over the world in all sports but remember, no refs no game.

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PlaymakerMo  
Last month

Refs need to be better at calling the game, players (imports and locals) need to be better at knowing the rules and adjusting to calls.

Nice thread.

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This thread will go well

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Anonymous  
Last month

Angry Angry Man.....

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Goldie  
Last month

So you cant criticize refs, but when players and coaches have shockers they are fair game?

I have watched the NBL for 25 odd years.
Our leagues officials have not grown one iota.

It is beyond a joke. Mistakes and tough calls happen all the time (coin flips)which is fine.

Even very bad mistakes you can allow a few a game.
Check the tape of games and there are so many glaringly easy decisions that are screwed up.
Some even AFTER reviews.

Its hurt my team, and helped my team at diff points in the season, but as a BBALL fan it sure is hard to support in 2020

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Anonymous  
Last month

^Reffing in 2020 is no different from previous years in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Saying that referees do need to keep getting better as the quality of the NBL keeps getting better.

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Goldie  
Last month

You just proved my point beautifully!

Yes, the refs are the same as 1995. This is NOT a good thing

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Anonymous  
Last month

If it was that easy to fix don't you think ONE sporting league would have?

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Anonymous  
Last month

" but remember, no refs no game“

Pretty sure 10 guys can go and play a game of basketball without a ref. But 1 ref can't walk down to a court and ref a game without the players.

Typical ref mentality - don’t forget you are there for the players!!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Have you ever seen what happens when it's a call your own fouls game? Dumbest comment ever.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#406
I second that, dumbest comment ever.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBL and AFL both need to make their refs/umpires a full time job if they want things to improve.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Never realized how many failed Basketballers turned refs there are on this forum....

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Gus3232  
Last month

It probably won't ever improve as players have mastered the act of acting and accentuating "contact". They get better at it every year. Just retroactively start taking players money for this acting and watch things start to improve.

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PeterJohn  
Last month

"So you cant criticize refs, but when players and coaches have shockers they are fair game?"

So, on the principle you're putting forward, refs should be allowed to tell players and coaches how badly they’’re playing and coaching throughout the games, too. That’ll go well.

I prefer that refs do as they do and ignore the mistakes coaches and players make and the abuse they get from hysterical, prejudiced fans. It’d be nice if some coaches and fans could manage as much self discipline.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Quality of talent in NBL has improved. NBL refereeing has not!! Let Big Mal Cooper sort it out and within a year the game in aus will be easier on the eye!

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Lovebroker  
Last month

My guess is OP put $10 on the Sixers, now he is pissed because Centrelink if not for another 2 Thursdays.

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Mystro  
Last month

You have the benefit of watching replays and picking over their mistakes, they have a spit second to make a call in the heat of the game. Cut them some slack.

I'm a Breakers fan and every game on social media Breakers fan groups I see a casual fan complaining about calls that were blatant fouls like the refs are cheating them out of a win. Most other teams fans are just as bad I’m sure and Sydney even worse lol.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It was worse under Mal Cooper. He is no the answer. smh

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Anonymous  
Last month

These are not 50-50 calls which benefit of reply help. Stop it.

Explain plumlees block? That was a early whistle of anticipation much like many calls the men on green make.

Many of our refs want to involved, instead of letting the game play out. This doesnt not mean letting the game become a brawl. But honestly, a rebound wrestle and the ball bounces the other direction from the wrestle should not be called. Period.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The same Mal Cooper who thinks that Jesse Wagstaff deserved to be hit with a flying elbow from Childress...no thanks.

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UseTaHoop  
Last month

OP needs to adjust his meds.

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Senator11  
Last month

On a side note, has the jump ball rule changed? When two players grab the ball on opposite teams it used to be something like 3 seconds and then a jump ball was called, now it seems as soon as the same thing happens it's whistled immediately. I feel like the rule must have changed right?

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Anonymous  
Last month

The rule never had a criteria of both players holding for 3 seconds. The rule has not changed.

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Perthworld  
Last month

So the refs realised they were wrong for allowing three seconds in the past?

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Anonymous  
Last month

No, they never counted to 3. One person's imagination does not equal fact.

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Luuuc  
Last month

Yeah it was never 3 seconds. That's a long time.
The dickhead refs today are definitely quicker to whistle it than the same dickheads did several years ago, but the dickheads made that adjustment earlier than the start of this season.

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koberulz  
Last month

There was one the other night - pretty sure it was in the Wildcats game - where someone was holding the ball, the definder basically just tapped it, and they called a held ball. That was bizarre.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Ok maybe not three seconds but they are definitely faster at calling jump balls nowadays.

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Probably more like one or two seconds.

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D2.0  
Last month

Hmm, the reffing last Friday was pretty ordinary.

During that fiasco of a review, listen to their conversation, it was clear that the young guy was completely out of his depth and had no clue what was going on. I'm not sure, but I think he was the one who called the off-the-ball foul, and he couldn't understand how the other ref was allowing a shot, taken so far after, to stand.

Then you had the utterly bizarre call, where Wesley wrapped Jook in a bearhug from behind, but because he then got his hands on the ball, the blatant foul was completely ignore and they called it a jump-ball.

I have umpired a lot of sports, and appreciate that there is often a fraction of a second of whirling action to decipher, but if you don't see something then you don't call it. Simples.

Not having access to replays, is NOT an excuse.
That is a reason for NOT calling something you missed, not guessing and making shit up.

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Dickhead refs.
Saltiness on part of the OP.

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Isaac  
Last month

Maybe it's not just the game and refs in Australia that imports are adjusting too, but new players they're unfamiliar with. They're defending different people with different tendencies.

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Senator11  
Last month

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed those super quick jump ball calls, players used to have a chance at least for someone to win that ball with their strength.

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