Jack Toft
Earlier this year

Hawks v Breakers Feb 2

Teams are looking for easy wins in the final stages of the minor round and so New Zealand are the envy of all of those still hoping to make top 4.

Breakers are still a mathematical chance and need to show no quarter when the demolish the Hawks today. Be prepared for a plucking as they removed each feather one by one. Early in the season they were zip and a lot on the road, now they are 4 and 8. Tonight that should be 5 and 8

New Zealand to break the hearts of Hawks fan, Breakers by 16

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NZ by 30, hawks are woeful.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Breakers by 20+

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

For some reason I think the Hawks will lift for this and it could be close.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

NZ to give it a red hot go at a percentage boosting win.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

NZ up 30-14 at QT.
Their poor start to the season might come back to haunt them though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Gaze telling us hooley had go to the commentary box because the owner of hungry jacks was losing to much money on free burgers that hooley missed free throws. Lmao. Truth there though. Lol.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Making the 4 was always going to be a big ask for NZ after their first half of the season. At least they're putting in the effort and they’re fun to watch as a fan.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

NZ coach comes across as a very good coach and mentor.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Imagine stopping a national league game because of rain

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

This is very Illawarra. Dear lord they are an embarrassment on the league.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Even the venue of the Hawks is trash.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What happens if they can't fix the leak?

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Game stoppage. Wow + lol. Indeed very Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Hooley is as bad a commentator as he was player, talks rubbish and irritates.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Pretty ridiculous situation

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Game called off. I can't recall this ever happening before?

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Ben  
Earlier this year

Game called due to rain. Uggghhhhhhh.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Game called off

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

NZB potentially robbed off points percentage due to this. LOL at Flinn being the one who complained once told of the decision. You were gifted an indirect mercy rule.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Illawarra Hawks best defensive game of the season.

This is it....the Hawks should just die. Everything they touch is trash.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

I'm lucky with 11+ margin.
The curse of LaMelo Ball strikes lol.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As a Breakers fan, I fear the league ruling this a no result...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Happened at Australian Open one year and probably in basketball before, hope hawks tell who ever owns, runs and over chargers them for their stadium make sure today is a freebie.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Wonder how the league will deal with the result.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

They just announced Scotty Hopson as the Bunnings Warehouse player of the game...

But wait!!!

The screen shows Hawk Darrington Hobson with 1 point, 2 rebounds and 1 assist.

Anyone else see that? Haha

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Only ever been involved with one SEABL abandonded game. The trickle of water there was problematic. It wasn't a flood but clearly unsafe.
I hope the Hawks get a refund on their rent for hiring an unsuitable venue.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

As a Breakers fan I am beyond pissed off. This is going to cost us a chance at the playoffs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Breakers are leading and should get the points. Hawks have no chance at anything.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No - your start to the season and bringing in a washed up NBA headcase is what has cost you

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I was in Knox stadium when it burst and flooded the place.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You mean our horrific run of injuries which almost ruined our season? Having fought back from that we deserve the same chance that everyone else has at making the playoffs. This is straight up unfair.

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Lovebroker  
Earlier this year

Surely this is a Breakers win.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Every team has injuries every year.

Not every team ends up with a fill in player with a history for being a headcase being arrested on a road trip

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Breakers are leading and should get the points. Hawks have no chance at anything.

In this case I think that would be a reasonable outcome

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Even if this is a Breakers win (and it damn well better be), they've been robbed of points percentage which is very likely to decide who makes playoffs. This is a disgrace.

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KET  
Earlier this year

Breakers not making it

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It's also up to the host to provide a suitable venue - not the Breakers fault Illawarra can’t even manage that. Only acceptable decision is to give Breakers the win.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

NZ shouldn't have been in the situation of needing points difference to make the finals.
The score should stand where the game was called and NZ get the W and the Hawks get mercy with a 13point L.

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Shayno  
Earlier this year

Is there any chance they can play the remaining time at a later date?

Just like they did in the afl when the lights went out that night?

Also heat policy friday leaking roof Sunday

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

"Breakers not making it"

The fact is, they could. It doesn't matter whether you think they will or not.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Isn't the rule that once it's past half time, the result stands? So it's a Breakers win?

If it was before half time, it would be a rematch or no result.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

Breakers percentage at the current score is 125%. Hardly a robbery.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

Surely NZ shouldn't have to wear the costs of heading back to Illawarra to play again when it is the hosts responsibility to provide a suitable venue.
There was what, 3:00 minutes left in the 3rd quarter left to play?
Result should stand and the Hawks owe their fans Burgers.

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AngusH  
Earlier this year

How embarrassing.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

NZ have been declared winners with the details yet to be ironed out.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Common sense has prevailed and the Breakers have been awarded the win.

Should Illawarra even be in the league at this point? Embarrassing.

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Luuuc  
Earlier this year

@NBL
Following the @NZBreakers and @IllawarraHawks game ending for player safety reasons due to a leak in the roof of the WIN Entertainment Centre, the final result is a Breakers win 65-52 with the result and score to be reviewed in the next 24 hours.

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

FIBA rules award walkovers with a score line of 40-0. Not sure about half-completed games though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Blackout game a few years ago has set a precedence. Breakers will get the W.


November 13, 2016

The NBL game between the Cairns Taipans and Brisbane Bullets was called off due to a power outage.

THE Cairns Taipans have launched an official protest to the NBL after a stunning power outage forced their clash against the Brisbane Bullets to be called off with just over 90 seconds remaining.

With Brisbane leading 84-76 with 1.37 left in the fourth quarter, power was cut from the Cairns Convention Centre due to severe thunderstorms around the city, leaving the arena in total darkness.

The match was officially abandoned around half an hour after the blackout, with power only returning to the venue 45 minutes later.

As per official FIBA rules, the game was abandoned due to no indication of power being restored soon. As Brisbane led at the time of the blackour, it was handed the victory.

But the NBL received a formal protest from the Taipans after the match, with the league to conduct a full review of the decision on Monday.

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Bouncing 40  
Earlier this year

Wonder if the Venue refunds hiring costs to the Hawks for the embarrassment this potentially causes.

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Zodiac  
Earlier this year

Time for the Hawks to move back to the Snakepit.

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Jack Toft  
Earlier this year

Breakers declared the winner with the finer details to be ironed out

OK, so the full points go to them and let's face it, we are arguing over %. The fair thing would be to say the final score is 52:65, which gives the Breakers a 13 point win. The game time was 27 mins with 13 mins still to play. OK, so could you predict the final score effectively?

I'm not aware of a "Duckworth-Lewis" type system, but if you extrapolated the score over 40 mins, the potential score could be 96 to 77. (174 points) Is this fair? The average NBL game this season has a total of 186 points scored. Each time is a little variable at home and on the road. I haven't updated my spreadsheet for a few rounds, but Hawks average score at home is 84 to 89 (173 points). Breakers average score on the road has been 91 to 99 (190 points)

There's a case to be had that the Hawks could have won, there's also a case to had that the 13 point gap would have held, and there's a case that the 13 point gap after 27 mins would have blown out to 19 points after 40 mins. The % could come into it in the event of a tie for 4th spot. Potentially, could the Breakers sue the stadium for losses of prize money in the event of not making the 4th?

At the 27 minute mark, the Hawks score should have been 27/40 x 84 = 56.7 points, so they are not far away from 52. The total score of 117 points would have produced a game of around 174 points and the Breakers were on track for around 100 points.

I think the best result would be to keep the score at 52:65. There are too many variables at play to accurately extrapolate a final score and the effect on % would be minimal over the full season.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

I agree Jack, too many variables so just leave the score as it is.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Now this from the NBL:

"We will now consider the options available to us including replaying the game in full, completing the time remaining and awarding the win to NZ."

So you award the win to NZ and then say you're reviewing it, and they may have to play the whole thing again? What a joke.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

There's only one realistic option here and that’s to award NZ the win.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Another chapter to the bush league for Larry.

Absolute shambles.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Have a read of the rules LK. It's your league undoubtedly but please follow the rules.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

What's that got to do with Larry you imbecile, it rained and the stadium leaked.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^true facts, if we can blame anyone blame god or karma or Lamelo.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^ or combine them all and blame Caramello Koala

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Omg this makes NBL look so amateurish. Also who owns or runs WEC as they are slumlords who overcharge

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

More embarrassment for Illawarra.

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Anon  
Earlier this year

Wayville not alone... hawks and Eagles - dry nests lol.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Estimated upgrade to the WEC is 70 mil. They have been knocked back a number of times over the past few years for funding. This could finally see the Hawks fold/relocate.

Imagine this being the last Hawks game!

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

What sort of upgrade? It only cost $20mil to construct.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

League have released a statement saying the result stands and there will be no replay or playing the remaining time.

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Mystro  
Earlier this year

The NBL has reviewed submissions from the Illawarra Hawks and SKY Sport New Zealand Breakers following the decision to abandon yesterday's game at the WIN Entertainment Centre.

The NBL has determined that the result at the time the game was called off with three minutes remaining in the third quarter will stand and the Breakers declared the winners, 65-52.

NBL Commissioner Jeremy Loeliger said: "As we said following the game, these were highly unusual circumstances and we had no choice but to call the game off to protect the safety of the players because of the leaking roof.

“Having reviewed submissions from both clubs, we believe it would be both inequitable and impractical for us to replay the game or complete the time remaining.

“Under the rules, over a half of the game must be completed to declare a result. Given this has occurred in this instance, we believe this is the fairest outcome and the result will stand."

Both clubs can appeal the decision within 24 hours.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

It makes sense, unlucky for Illawarra but fair for NZ.

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LoveBroker  
Earlier this year

I would suggest this is lucky for Illawarra, the end margin would have been 25+.

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KET  
Earlier this year

It's a practical decision but wary of a precedent.

If it was 4v5 playing, a vital game for playoffs, some momentum to the home side, 13 points is very doable in 13 minutes. Is it reasonable and fair then to allocate the result? People would probably be debating it a hell of a lot more. There’s every possibility something like this occurs again some day.

Granted once the incident occurs there’s impact whether it be halting play and potentially momentum or straight up determining a result from it when the result could conceivably be just about anything.

Right decision, easier given the circumstances of Hawks being a crap team.

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