Anonymous
Last month

RJ Hampton slipping in draft?

Looks like Next Stars is getting another black eye. Imo he showed what he needed to, but missed too many games to make an impact, especially with Breaker's far superior to Ball's Hawks where he more or less ran the show for a few games. Did Balls performance detract from Hampton and are GMs put off that he didn't dominate as much?

RJ Hampton was expected to be a lottery pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, but he could fall as far as the twenties.

Hampton played in the NBL as part of their Next Star program.

"But I think it's more likely that Hampton hears his name called somewhere from 11 to 22 or so than it is within the top-10, based on the feedback I’m getting right now," wrote Sam Vecenie at The Athletic. "He’s someone who could have really used the workout environment to wash the bad taste of the tape out of evaluators’ mouths. Unfortunately, the truncated pre-draft process likely won’t give him that chance.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What's the betting on LaMelo not being in the top 10? Love to have a piece of that action.

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D2.0  
Last month

What is the "bad taste of the tape" it refers to? Something specific?

I certainly don't follow high-school prospects, but logic says it would be hard to accurately predict where somebody is drafted, a year ahead, based only on high school.

End of the day, the suture of the Next Stars program, and the BF-League alternative, will depend not on the hype surrounding the draft, but how these players actually perform.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"What is the "bad taste of the tape" it refers to? Something specific?"

In the context above, it seems they are suggesting that he'd benefit from working out in front of the scouts, rather than then just watch tape (which is all that exists right now).

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Anonymous  
Last month

I hardly remember him playing a game! Was all hype imo. Lamelo was able to take main control of a horrible team offense, it helped him pad.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think the bad taste comes down to the Ball hype after his season and triple doubles etc. Hampton was rated higher, yet based on "the tape" underperformed by comparison. End of the day Hampton was what he was, a kid playing against men in a team of veterans with a more strict "director of coaching". If the roles were reversed and Hampton ends up at Hawks, where injuries lead him to take a bigger role and he's not deferring to better teammates, plus the coach basically telling a teenager "Here's the ball, do what you want, don't worry about shot selection and turnovers" then suddenly Hampton gets the hype.
Imo, Ball will get a few oohs and ahhs but as referred above, his shot selection and turnovers will find him wanting in NBA. Hampton on the other hand had to earn his minutes and practice against pro's (Glen Rice JR excepted). He did make bad choices at times but that was exactly what was expected by the team and his handlers. He will be way superior to Ball in all respects if he finds himself in right situation. If he falls imagine a Miami or Toronto guiding him. Spurs will be too high I imagine but if they're around the late lottery that would be another great spot.
I can just see the Knicks with 3rd pick taking Ball and absolutely turning it into an even bigger circus.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

RJ's outcome from Next Stars is not an indictment of Next Stars as a programme.

RJ was injured for much of the season, and when playing he was OK without being great. In fact NZ started winning when he stopped playing.

He probably has a higher ceiling than what we are seeing, so he should be OK.



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Anonymous  
Last month

He looked a lot better than the kid that played for Adelaide a few seasons back and he went first round. He was very good till he got hurt and struggled after that but overall he did great.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What mock draft even has RJ in the twenties?

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Zodiac  
Last month

I agree Hampton definitely looks a better player than Ferguson.

People need to keep in mind this quote is from a journo and therefore is based on what sources are telling him i.e. where he is most likely to land. Where he lands means nothing as the draft is based on hype and NBA scouts often get things wrong anyway.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Maybe RJ just wasn't that good. Wasn't impressed by him from Day 1.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBAdraft.net which is one of the more accurate mocks has him currently at 17 & he's consistently been on the slide.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Next stars is dead, it should be next stashed, players drafted and stashed in the nbl by nba clubs.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ball @3. Never ever was going to be #1.

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Anonymous  
Last month

How is it a black eye? NBA teams want to see these kids come and compete against men. Seasoned professionals. If they fail here then so be it. But a year against men in some cases is better than a year against kids. T Ferguson for instance

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Anonymous  
Last month

Black eye in it that he was perceived as a top 5 pick, now he looks to fall out of 1st round. Would have hoped to solidify position here even with injuries. Now with g league offering ridiculous money we will end up with lesser players if any at all. Ball the only winner as well as Ferguson.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ferguson was trash. He shouldve been cut and replaced with a decent contributing 3rd import. That lack of depth ended up costing the 6ers a title. But I digress.

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Lovebroker  
Last month

Agreed with the above the lack of production from our third import T-Ferg was a factor in losing the GF that year.

To be fair it's not just him, losing Childress as well.

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koberulz  
Last month

Agreed with the above the lack of production from our third import T-Ferg was a factor in losing the GF that year.
It's very difficult to produce for a team you don't play for.

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D2.0  
Last month

There's two distinct issues, the hype and the reality.

A next-star being drafted early would certainly contribute to the hype, and that would be good for boosting the leagues profile.

But ultimately what matters is how their performance is judged by the people that matter.
If NBA recruiters and coaches see a positive in their development, then they will push for more young players to spend a season or two in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Teams that purely watch the tape and dont get caught in the Hype will see ball's numbers for what they are.

RJ Hampton was a better team mate but also wasn't given cart blanche to do whatever he wanted to showcase his skills as NZ wanted to win games and not run glorify showcase open runs for there next star like what happened at the Hawks.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Next stars is dead"

No one told Josh Giddey.

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Anonymous  
Last month

perhaps drop the "Stars" part of the program and Giddey fits right in

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ask 100 Americans, both fans and sportscasters who Josh Giddey is and not one would know. Last year everyone knows ball and most knew Hampton, noone gives a flying flip who Giddey is. He's not a next star, just a kid staying home like hundreds before him, Ingles etc.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Next stars is dead, it should be next stashed, players drafted and stashed in the nbl by nba clubs."

The Didi Louzada rule

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