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Last month

Thoughts on the COE boys game last night

They went down by about 15 odd (can't remember the final score.

My thoughts on the players:

Bannan looks solid and should end up a good NBL player.

Tattersall is an excellent outside shooter but doesn't offer much more.

Jones looked like he wasn't engaged and did very little.

Wigness was ordinary too. Looks like he has gone a bit backwards to me.

There was a massive kid playing (like Harry Froling's size) anyone know his name?

Armstrong looks like a poor mans Giddey and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. Giddey is way ahead of him but I liked what I saw from Taran.
Handles the ball well, good passer, shoots it pretty well and had some nice defensive plays. He works hard. I see him being a very good NBL player and possibly further, if he keeps working.

King: WOW. He was awesome. Excellent shooter, really athletic and seems almost unstoppable when the drives to the cup due to his strength, speed and athleticism.
The Taipans have recruited an awesome talent and should enjoy watching him here whilst they can because I really don't think he will be playing NBL, the season after.
Looks like he has been hitting the weights hard and has developed a super strong body.

In saying all this, it was one game.

Just my observations.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bears played well, Hunter was good and old garlepp.

King the standout for coe

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Aussie  
Last month

The Bears did play well.

It was great to watch a live basketball game again.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wigness has the hallmarks of a guy who did wel in juniors but won't make the step due to size limitations.

King is really good and bannon Very solid

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Anonymous  
Last month

Waratah league starting soon, bears clearly favourites.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Wigness was very good in the blitz last year.

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anon123  
Last month

Sydney Comets also got a strong team as well coming in.

How do you rate North Bears seeing how well they handled CoE up against NBL1 South clubs ?

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anon123  
Last month

Waratah League streaming this season ?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Comets pulled out of the shortened season.

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Anon  
Last month

Who was the big ? (13 i think) I'm sorry but he was useless. I wasn't impressed by any of them actually, for them to be called the best of the best in Australia to be at COE. I thought King was the only shining light.
It's a shame u18 Nationals may not go ahead, I'm sure there would be some talented kids in there and it would've been their time to shine and show what's out there.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Morgan in the girls was better than most of the coe guards of the same age.

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Anonymous  
Last month

North bears have got garlepp, Hunter, and an other former kings player and are reasonable but would run last in nbl1 south.

Imo Coe or what ever they used to be call have never had the best players since the Bogut generation went through.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Blake Jones?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Remember the COE are looking for athletes who they think have the potential to be future Boomers and Opals.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Athletes on there own don't make basket ballers, you still need basketball knowledge. Some of the players that have gone through in the last 10/15 years have neither.

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Rook  
Last month

I only caught the 2nd half of the Mens game against Norths, and unfortunately have to say I found the COE team disappointing and underwhelming. BTW, I think they only lost by 9pts, although for most of what I saw they were down by 20 until the last couple of minutes. So the final score was maybe a little flattering.

Granted they're up against grown men and some with vastly higher/greater experience, but the COE team is meant to be the cream of the crop of our young basketball talent in the country right?
What I saw though really makes me wonder whether their identification and maybe development system isn't flawed.

While I agree with Aussie that King was the one clear stand-out, although Bannan certainly had his moments, the rest, well...

Last year I went to watch the COE play Creighton @ SHORE and back then it was again King and Giddey that were clear stand-outs. Shame Giddey wasn't playing against Norths. I really looking forward to seeing both of them get their shot in the NBL and hopefully beyond.

I saw a number of these kids a few years ago at the U16s Nationals in Perth and back then Wigness was a man amongst boys. Although he did have a great partner in crime for the back court of the QLD North team who I think didn't get enough praise and recognition for how dominant they were that year. Davies I think was his surname.
But back to Wigness, in 2017 there was a good bit of daylight between him and everyone else back then, King included. He was the player everyone at the tournament was buzzing about and rightly so.

Now fast forward almost 3 years from that tournament and I unfortunately have to wonder what happened. Considering all the extra/specialised training and development he's received at the NBA Global Academy/COE, the numerous opportunities of experience and exposure around the world he's received as a result, I don't see the proportional improvement in the way he plays. I just see a slightly taller version and physically stronger version of what I saw in Perth.

It's not just Wigness I've observed this about, because there's a few others in the COE team that were at those Perth u16 Nationals and got the chance to go to the COE/NBA Global Academy 2-3 years ago but I just don't see the improvement. King is probably the only exception who is now the one creating the daylight between himself and the rest.
Some might want to throw Giddey's name into that, hasn't he only been at the NBA Global Academy/COE for about a year (or less). So his surely his key development came elsewhere.

Dare I say they key benefit coming out of that NBA Global Academy/COE system may be the worldly exposure & experiences the kids get.
Because in terms of "cream of the crop" I've seen a few other players of comparable age (2001/02/03) who I'm sure could give the COE a good run for their money and then some (and I'm just thinking of kids from my lowly basketball state of NSW).

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Anonymous  
Last month

Coe kills ya natural game, it's been said a bunch of times. Better off going somewhere else.

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Rook  
Last month

And don't get me wrong, I do think most of the COE team players are very good players in their own right, but those I've seen early on and been following their progress over the past few years I don't really see the improvement in them I thought i'd see with all the time they've spent at the COE, NBA Academy events, etc...

But yeah, maybe not the development system I thought they were.... exposure/opportunity benefits is definitely on their side though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

This also could be the case of a lot of those athletes identified early like Wigness and some COE kids have already peaked and their room for growth till they hit their ceiling isn't that far apart?

I’d probably take the likes of Wessel’s etc over Wigness any day

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Anonymous  
Last month

Lol, he's fine and only turned 18.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d6mGEIVkomk

If he’s crap at 21 then you can say I told you so. Way too early to be callin him a bust.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Not COE I know but what do people think of David Okwera ?
Seems to be coming up in next star conversations.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yeah, someone will get okwera after his u20s performance.
Think Perth would have been after him, no pfs and he was from w.a

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Anonymous  
Last month

Think tas will get Armstrong next season.

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Rook  
Last month

Yeah I've been thinking the same thing 412... In hindsight he, and a couple of others were probably close to peaking when identified and taken to COE/NBA Global Academy.

414, I'm not saying he's a bust at all. I was one of those highly impressed with him at u16s in Perth and thought this could be one of those kids to go all the way.
But 15 to 18 is a pretty significant development period for an athlete/player, and I just don't see the improvement in him that I thought I'd be seeing in him. No longer the dominant force he once was.
I wish him the best though in the next 3 or 4 years of development and hope there's another peak coming. Time will tell I guess.

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