Anonymous
Years ago

FIBA U19 camp 2021 WC lists

https://www.bnsw.com.au/news_notices/nsw-athletes-selected-in-under-19-squads-for-2021-fiba-world-cup/

Does not include Nbl players or ncaa.

No

Giddey
King
Jones
Wigness
Bayles
Gak
Galloway
Woodhill

Price
Notoa
Valenti-paea

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Others maybe
Ofoedu
Rees

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some good talent about...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

THE GEMS SQUAD FOR THE FOUR-DAY INTENSIVE CAMP

ATHLETE - HOME STATE/TERRITORY

Isobel Borlase – South Australia

Indiah Bowyer – Queensland

Lil Dart – Queensland

Kate Deeble – Queensland

Piper Dunlop – Victoria

Charlise Dunn – Victoria

Chyra Evans – New South Wales

Luisa Fakalata – Victoria

Alana Goodchild – New South Wales

Tess Heal – Victoria

Kitty Henderson – New South Wales

Nya Lock – Victoria

Dallas Loughridge – Victoria

Ruby MacDonald – New South Wales

Jade Melbourne – Victoria

Isabelle Morgan – New South Wales

Olivia Pollerd – Victoria

Gemma Potter – Victoria

Nyadiew Puoch – Victoria

Millie Prior – New South Wales

Lilly Rotunno – Queensland

Emily Sewell – Victoria

Shaneice Swain – Queensland

Jasmine Whatley – Victoria

Lauren Wise – Tasmania

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Anonymous  
Years ago

THE EMUS SQUAD FOR THE FOUR-DAY INTENSIVE CAMP

ATHLETE - HOME STATE/TERRITORY

Ryan Abbott – New South Wales

Taran Armstrong – Tasmania

Clancy Bird – New South Wales

Dyson Daniels – Victoria

Sejr Deans – Tasmania

Bol Dengdit – Victoria

Joshua Duach – Victoria

Fiston Ipassou – South Australia

Evan Kilminster – New South Wales

Boston Mazlin – Queensland

Jack McWilliams – New South Wales

David Okwera – Victoria

Mason Perry – Victoria

Tyrese Proctor – New South Wales

Keanu Rasmussen – South Australia

Daniel Rogers – Western Australia

Patrick Ryan – Victoria

Riley Simmons – Victoria

Reyne Smith – Tasmania

Zac Taylor – Victoria

Harry Wessels – Western Australia

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Adebayo, Ofoedu, Hornery, Olbrich?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Olbrich, Griscti, Magok Manyang would destroy most of the guys in that squad.

The problem is there is no one with a respected voice able to represent these guys to BA as Tassie or Vic have and in the case of no Nationals they've all snuck under the radar.

Won't matter for these players or the game in general. These guys will all pass most of those selected by and have doneso already. It will just be yet another BSA failure we can all privately smile and joke about. Good ole BSA always good for entertainment value.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is gristci 02?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah he is.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Herbert gems coach
Perry emus coach

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Silver in 19' girls
9th in 19’ boys

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Correct. But I'd put more money on there not even being an event. Europe won't be ready in July. Very different state of affairs there to here.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I expect this group will also play the Asian Cup qualifier against NZ

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Anonymous  
Years ago

May also have the u17 WC from last year this year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6 double bottom agers in the girls, not normal.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some of the recent selections to attend the NPP camp in Adelaide recently, especially on the girls side were just plain bizarre!
Low iQ - check
Can't shoot - check
No handles - check
Didn't perform at recent AIC tournament - check

BSA HP - perfect for us

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anonymous  
Years ago

Couple of the Vic selections are 'interesting'

I guess having a Vic coach with pre-existing relationship really helps...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What is the value of the boys' camp when 2/3 of the final team is likely to come from outside the 20 players they're bringing in? If it's a development camp, call it that. Most of those kids are not u19 WC contenders.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how can we put a dad in as the coach of a national team?? are we really that hard up for high performance coaches?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How offensive. He's an ex-NBL Championship winner. A Coach in his own right. The best candidate available. The fact he has a kid who also is a good player is irrelevant.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

not irrelevant at all. Completely unnecessary to have a parent involved at that level. Debatable whether his kid is anywhere near the top 20 available.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You do realize the Coach doesn't pick the squad on their own.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

losing Tsapatolis to footy reduces the depth in frontcourt.
Eventhough all are not on the list above, im going with...

6'8 02 Giddey-5’11-02 Wigness-6’1 02 Bayles
6’5 02 King-6’5 02 Armstrong
6’6 03 Duach-6’7 02 Galloway
6’9 02 Jones-6’10 02 Hornery-6’8 02 Adebayo
6’10 02 Okwera-6’11 02 Gak


I’m going with a smaller mobile team for the girls, not alot of post depth in this age group.
Wise and rees are the only players over 6’3.

5’10 02 Melbourne-5’8 03 Deeble
5’10 02 Morgan-5’10 03 Swain-5’9 02 Paea
6’1 03 Price-6’2 04 Puoch
6’1 02 Potter-6’1 03 Dunn-6’3 02 Pollerd
6’2 03 Prior-6’3 03 Evans

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You do realize the Coach doesn't pick the squad on their own.

you've clearly never met/worked with DP

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matthew  
Years ago

There is no way Rees isn't being picked, she was a stand out at Oceania and is playing well with Utah, also has the surname that seems to help with those selections

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So a coach can't pick his son? Maybe tell Lindsay he shouldn't have picked Andrew.... Most coaches at the time end are more critical of there kids is what i have found over the years.
Yes you will always get a kid getting into a higher team cause the parent is a good coach. Do we lose a good coach for the other 9 kids cause we don't want a conflict?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rees in oceania.. not sure that means anything.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1. You are not comparing the Perry's to the Gaze's are you? Surely not.
2. You are not taking a situation from over 30 years ago and trying to convince us it has relevance today? Surely not.

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Anon  
Years ago

"Rees in oceania.. not sure that means anything'

She was also good for the COE and was probably the best performed in that team in NBL1. Good player who is up against quality bigs in Pac 12 weekly.
She is a long way ahead of the other bigs mentioned and was a starter in u17, she isn't going to go from all star 5 to missing out, The COE coach loves her (who is the assistant) and apparently THE SURNAME means a lot to these COE coaches anyway so always going to get picked and start

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anonymous  
Years ago

nothing against a parent coaching his own kid or being in the team.

If a player is clearly in the top 20, like Andrew Gaze, it is a non issue.

If he isn't then it is an issue.

It is not fair on this kid.

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Musk  
Years ago

Considering that last time dp was the coach of his son at a state level, vic metro handily won the gold and his son was a starter on that team, I suggest you all calm down about him potentially coaching his son. Not to mention he's been involved in coaching prior junior aus teams before so it’s not like the guy isn’t qualified. Plus as the op said, there’s no nbl or ncaa players so that’s a decent chunk of guys not playing so there needs to be some extra guys who may not typically be in a squad like this for numbers purposes. Also it’s just the squad not the actual team, so just relax and as said earlier he won’t be picking the team by himself.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

you're missing the point Musk, it compromises the whole process. I go back to my original question, are we that hard up for High Performance coaches that we need to have a coach who has a child in the age group (in the realm of the squad) coaching a junior national team. you would hope the answer is no.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

agree with anon. Coach should stand aside if child in age group.

Australia has many talented coaches available.

Creates unconscious bias. Tough for selectors and assistant coaches to be able to criticise coaches son, or alternatively prefer other players. Player will always wear the mark of making a team or squad due to daddy.






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Musk  
Years ago

Would he be my first choice of coach anon, probably not, and I too don't like the premise of a parent coaching their son, however there are times when it’s understandable as dp is a damn good coach in his own right, he’s been around the junior national teams for a few years now so he’s a good coach plus he’s qualified (success at rep, state, national, ex nbl player, seabl/nbl1 levels as a head coach). His son has been involved in the vic metro program for a few years now and is talented in his own right, plus as the op said due to some guys not being available, he might just be there to fill some numbers for the general squad and he’ll have assistants with him to pick the team so it’s not like the kid is a lock. I also wouldn’t be surprised just with covid some other coaches may be trying to be safe and healthy particularly some of the older ones. My point being yes it’s not exactly ideal, however considering who’s involved it’s not a big deal, now if the kid gets picked and dp is trying to make him the starting pg and he clearly can’t hack it, then fine criticise him and the process then, but until that happens let’s calm down and wait and see as yes it’s not ideal but considering two talented individuals are involved then I suggest we just wait and see

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Boris  
Years ago

No way a parent should coach at that level these days, Especially not in juniors.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He's not in the Boomers for the Asia Cup qualifier in 10 days stop complaining.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

http://www.fiba.basketball/news/latvia-named-as-host-of-fiba-u19-basketball-world-cup-2021

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I reckon Daniels rise will push out Wigness from the team.
I think Giddey, bayles, Daniels + king and armstrong will be the guards. Wigness and smith to miss out unfortunately.

Maybe Daniels at 6'6 plays sf though.

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anonymous  
Years ago

Ok so this one has gone quiet for a while.

Victoria releases their 2 x teams for the U20

One player invited to Aus camp doesn't even make either team as a top age player (was he injured, unavailable?)

The Aus Coaches son makes the second Vic team, so essentially is rated as 3rd best PG for Vic (if not lower) by the state selectors??? But makes the Aus camp???

And for Musk, I get what you are saying, but it really is a big deal. These camp invites etc all add to the resume and could help/hinder college aspirations etc

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6 double bottom agers(all eligible again in 2 years). Pretty good sign for the next u19s also.


Isobel Borlase - South Australia

Lil Dart – Queensland

Tess Heal – Victoria

Dallas Loughridge – Victoria

Nyadiew Puoch – Victoria

Lilly Rotunno – Queensland

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Should probably add Brazel to the list now and Daniels is now a shoe in.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

U19 WC DRAWS


Mens group D - horrible draw for us...

1 Turkey
2 Mali
3 Australia
4 USA


Women's group A - done dirty again...

1 Italy
2 Australia
3 Egypt
4 USA

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Anon  
Years ago

Not sure how this is even still happening on the women's side, Hungary is in full Victorian style lock down. No way college kids are getting to the selection camp so I guess it will be a very weak team. Also not sure how the teams can get out without vaccinations

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Anon  
Years ago

Women's group A - done dirty again...

1 Italy
2 Australia
3 Egypt
4 USA

Pretty sure this happened last time, the girls lost to USA in first pod but then saw them again in GF

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Women WC isn't until mid august. 4 months away.

Mens is in July Latvia and you have to be vaccinated by then.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Egypt should be easy. Italy I believe won euros U18 and USA are obviously favourites.

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Anon  
Years ago

Has to be a hub then. There are some countries in real crisis, not sure of the vaccine roll out in each country but they best use the full 4 months to organise.
Also August is when the majority of the squads will be expected at their now colleges for pre season. Interesting to see what happens with the few girls that made the team last time currently in the college system getting over to Hungary if they are picked without selection squads (dont think they will be) and you have also have the 2021 kids like Jade Melbourne who will probably have to get there then fly to Hungary or just delay getting there.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

College games don't start till November, preseason is September/October

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anonymous  
Years ago

Have there been any camps yet?

If not, why announce list before u20 nationals where players can be evaluated

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Anon  
Years ago

Given the Vics dominate the 20's because they are a combined Met/Country team and most of those girls have been or are at the COE and their main comp are typically NSW and Qld who have also attended camps there is no way anyone is jumping from an unknown to making the team for the worlds.
Last time they announced the final camp before the u20's and there was uproar but the fact is they probably already have 90% of the team picked and are working through logistics. A stack of those eligible have already played WNBL from various states.

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