Red84
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2021 U18 AJC at Werribee

Thread for your comments regarding the AJC U18 champs due to start April 10

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Anonymous  
Last year

Isn't there already a thread?

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Red84  
Last year

Yes - just for convenience - the header has scrolled off the thread listing front page, despite several posts made today

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Anonymous  
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Team lists

https://australia.basketball/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/2021-Australian-Under-18-Championships-Program_09042021.pdf



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Anonymous  
Last year

I think puoch will be an opal one day. 6'3 sfs don’t come around too often with her skillset.
Proctor maybe the only one as a potential boomer.

Too Early to say though..

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Anonymous  
Last year

Proctor already is a Boomer

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Anonymous  
Last year

Senior boomer at a major tourney I mean, not juniors or qualifiers.

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Anonymous  
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Played for the senior national team.

That's a Boomer.

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Anonymous  
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Kids filled in because no one was available. They played nz e side.

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Anonymous  
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Quality of opponents and player availability doesn't change he played for the Boomers.

He could be a one cap wonder because circumstances but he'll never lose his international appearance

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Anonymous  
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Being a Boomer by that logic above means just about everyone has a Boomers cap.
Cadee, Wagstaff, Drmic, Matt Kenyon etc..

Proctor is still a teenager and hopefully has a great future .

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Anonymous  
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Nsw m women, lol no chance. Who picked that side?

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Anonymous  
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Being a Boomer by that logic above means just about everyone has a Boomers cap.
Cadee, Wagstaff, Drmic, Matt Kenyon etc..

Proctor is still a teenager and hopefully has a great future .

Yes. That's right. They're all Boomers. Just like everyone who pulls on an Australian Jersey in Football(Soccer) is Socceroo.

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Perthworld  
Last year

Incorrect, as the junior/U23/Olympic men's team are the Olyroos not Socceroos.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Perthworld if you play for the senior national team you are a Socceroo.
Just as if you put on a senior jersey for Australia in Basketball you are a Boomer.

Which is what the conversation was about. It didn't need clarity until you walked in.

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Perthworld  
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It needed clarity because you didn't mention senior.

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Anonymous  
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Loughridge-heal
Borlase-fearne*-pitman
Brazel-ananiev
Puoch-crawshaw-jacobs
Juffermans-hassett

*in the usa

Early days, but this looks like the next u19 team to me.
Couple others have a chance. Simons, nelson, a few bottom agers that Missed out on selection maybe.

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Shocked  
Last year

How did QLD South girls lose to SA?!

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Anonymous  
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Sa were underrated,

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Anonymous  
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Sa metro look like the favourites in the women.

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Anonymous  
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VIC Metro?

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Anonymous  
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Vic metro don't look very good at all. 2-3 players won’t get them the champs.

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Anonymous  
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Dart who's missing from qld sth is pretty much a shoe in.

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Anonymous  
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Is this a particularly weak boys' age group or does it just look that much worse than usual because of last year?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Few big 04s aren't there but I think 04/05 is alot less talented than 02/03 and 00/01

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Anonymous  
Last year

The overall standard looks a bit off. I suppose that is understandable given the Covid lockdowns, particularly with the Vic teams.

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Anonymous  
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It will be interesting to see how development bounces back for the kids who missed critical stretches. That happens individually with injuries, sure, but we've never seen it on this scale. It wouldn't surprise me if we see fewer elite seniors out of this group because the couple of years ahead of them were already established on senior pathways, and the couple of years behind them missed lower quality opportunities.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I'm not sure after watching everybody I can pick a clear winner.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I hope there are no longer term affects, but the standard is definitely below what you would expect. I think Vic Metro has some real issues with their selection process too, whether it be some form of bias or relying too heavily on a small number of single tryout sessions, the fact is there were a lot of questionable selections and non selection on both the girls and boys sides.

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Anonymous  
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SA not favourites, rely heavily on Borlase to carry them and only late game heroics by her alone got it done vs Qld. Queensland chocked late in the game.

Expect Vic teams to show up terrible SA front court and bully them at the rim.

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Anonymous  
Last year

*choked

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Anonymous  
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Sa Metro have Borlase, brazel and Simons with good contributions from others.
Vic have only Puoch and heal with some help from burrows.

Nsw m if they put in more effort can compete. Sa country have been ok.

Down year for sure.

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Anonymous  
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Vic Metro have brought back to the pack with almost 9 months off basketball. The thing with VM is they will scrap and get the tough W's.

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king  
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NSW M men and women look good lol, so much for nsw m women, who picked that team ahahah

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Anonymous  
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Loughridge-heal
Borlase-fearne*-pitman
Dart-brazel
Puoch-crawshaw-jacobs or ananiev
2 centers who knows...

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Anonymous  
Last year

Hasset is quite mobile, I'd take her.

Juffermans has put up the numbers but will struggle in Asia champs

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Anonymous  
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SA Metro boys worst in years! Just in front of the Scott Butler coached fiasco

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Anonymous  
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Nsw m men beat vic m on buzzer.
Vic m smack nsw m women 2 nd half

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king  
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NSW MEN M medal or bust

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Anonymous  
Last year

Most depleted vic teams ever.
Country use to pride themselves on hustle.

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Anonymous  
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140, that team was actually really good. This one not so much so. This team is well coached just not good players.

Who is responsible for the depth and quality of talent available for these teams?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sa metro vs vic metro final women it would seem.

Sa metro have a good U16s side also for July. Can they do the double?

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Anonymous  
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#155 AFL is. Basketball doesn't draw the best athletes in SA. Every few years there are some elite boys but generally they gravate to AFL early on.

Given the toxic, negative mess that is basketball in SA is there any wonder why?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Scott Butler is infatuated with Sturt and Prince Alfred private school boys, doesn't matter if they can play or not.
He coached one of the most talented SA Metro boys teams in history to 8th at the Nationals a couple of years ago.
He has handpicked this years Boys team as "high performance" manager, a team full of Sturt players that are a mid table program in the 16s and 18s local league.
The results under his watch make his position untenable.
It’s time for BSA HP to get someone from outside SA to run the program properly, free from the school,club and boys club surname bias that continues to grip the game in Adelaide.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Unfortunately the wrong people are leaving. A few more running out the door as quick as they can.

The BSA turmoil continues.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sturt boys basketball was one of the best programs in the country, Butler went there as manager, stuffed it up and left it in a mess. They will recover but it will take time.
Mediocrity seems to follow Butler because the same thing is happening with the SA Metro boys.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Ahh that PAC conspiracy theory. Haha. You are a nut. Most of this team come from another private school so stop making sh%t up.

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Anonymous  
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Metro boys are flat out B grade and Country are just pitiful. Good job Scott

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Anonymous  
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saCountry got the win today ya hater. Go back to drinking you're Haterade. Metro to get the W in a cople hours too.

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Anonymous  
Last year

SA Country beat NT by 5.

NT!

Please don't embarass yourself.

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Hustle  
Last year

Hey I'm a fellow 18 1s player I know all the guys that made the team and the initial team imo seemed like all the right choices ofc there’s a few at the end of the lineup that aren’t as clear but that’ll always be the case. Idk abt all the politics but the notion PAC had favouritism is weird. The metro team has 3 iggies players, one from saint peters boys, one from PAC, one from modbury high, two from cabra, one from concordia and one from saint johns grammar. Can’t say I know all the politics but this school notion seems like a weird take

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Anonymous  
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Very short of quality centers over 6'3 in the women the past few years.
Only 3 legit post prospects since 98, Aokuso, Magbegor and Anstey.

I have not seen another future post player with opals potential from 98,99,00,01,02,03 or 04 age groups. and Hardly any bigs in college, mainly guards and sfs.

Problem area for australia for sure.

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Anonymous  
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Hustle
Not as weird as you pretending to be an U18 player

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RMG  
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Hustle, I know for a fact that one of the Metro Boys goes to a school you haven't named. Did you just make all that up?

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Anonymous  
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Hard to believe Borlase didn't make u17 Aus side.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Avg like 21-12-4-4

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Anonymous  
Last year

Final

M
Qld n vs wa m

W
Vic m vs sa m

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Anonymous  
Last year

That's Tracy York for you.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Looking at it now, the team chosen is spot on except for the Simons over Borlase.
The bottom agers on that team are Loughridge, Puoch and Simons from this ajcs

Squad would be...

U17 2020/21
(HC-T.York)
5'5 04 D.Loughridge vic pg
5’7 03 L.Fakalata vic pg
5’7 03 K.Deeble qld pg
5’10 03 S.Swain qld sg
5’11 04 I.Borlase sa g/f
6’2 03 P.Price vic sf
6’2 03 C.Dunn vic cf
6’2 03 A.Goodchild nsw pf
6’2 03 P.Dunlop vic pf
6’2 03 M.Prior nsw pf
6’2 04 N.Puoch vic sf
6’3 03 C.Evans nsw c

Brazel would be good too, but not enough room. Has to wait till u19 23’ WC and qualifiers.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes, the team was "spot on" except for the best player in this age group (and has been for years) being omitted.

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Anonymous  
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Sturt were dominant with Mesecke at the helm for many years. Should BSA headhunt him to come back and replace Butler?

There appears to be no apparent successor within SA currently.

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Anonymous  
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No doubt Mesecke would be an outstanding candidate in this role.

Butler is a solid administrator, a good back of house guy. If this role is to be elite leading top level athletes, Mesecke has the communication and relationship building capabilities, talent ID skills, can relate with high performance/elite athletes and families and strategic thinking that sets him apart.

If you could get Mesecke back to SA the 2 could make an amazing combo.

BSA do not understand HP how you lead these programs and the positive impact doing it well has on the sport and athletes at ALL levels. So the current, tick the boxes, deliver consistent OK will be sustained.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Oh my god. No just no.

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RMG  
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084, that is the funniest thing ever on Hoops.

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Anonymous  
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My ALL U18 team for the Men:

Elliot - WAMet
Hawke - QldNth
Proctor - NSWMet
Toohey - ACT
Yates - QldNth

The MVP would be one of Hawke of Proctor I would say but all 5 had a great tournament

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Anonymous  
Last year

What's the next u19 Aus team look like?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Shit

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes seems that way.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Proctor/Mcdowell-white
Hawke/Green?
Toohey/De Barros
Pf/pf
Yaak/Yates

Very difficult to tell.

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Anonymous  
Last year

De Barros - no thanks

Hughes Henshall Poelsma Stevens are all A LOT better

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Anonymous  
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Stevens will be in the u17 side for sure

Is ky green 04?

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Anonymous  
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Where is next years nationals?

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Anonymous  
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Ballarat ^

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Anonymous  
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Ha! Because why would we leave Victoria for a nationals? Absolute joke that BA continue to look after their own backyard rather than share the experience and more importantly financial benefits for each state to host nationals on a rotational basis

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Anonymous  
Last year

New ruling brought in a couple of years ago... WA hosting the next 2 16's and Mackay hosting the next 3 20’s...

Remember, Ballarat were to host it in 2020 so good on them for getting the opportunity post Covid.

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