Jack Toft
Two weeks ago

NZB v SEM June 5

Final round action continues in New Zealand, Auckland to be precise.

The Trusts Arena. I didn't realise that Auckland had so many stadiums.

SEM are masters of their destiny and can deflate the hopes of the Kings and the Bullets like a needle and a balloon with a win today. The Breakers? Well this is their last game of the season. A win beckons just like the view at the top of a mountain.

With two losses in a row, SEM seem destined to make it a hat trick, but they have more to play for and so like a man crawling through the desert, should grab that win like a bottle of water and drink, drink, drink

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

NZ have been soft defensively even after returning home, Delaney will have his hands full with Creek and won't be as dominant.

SEM by 16.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Straightforward scenario for SEM

Win the last 2- finish 3rd

Won 1- finish 4th

Win neither- miss playoffs

The most talented team left outside United, so lets hope they at least guarantee a spot today

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"The most talented team left outside United" it's a pity they are so inconsistent and when challenged they generally crumble (last round Brisbane as an example)

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D2.0  
Two weeks ago

This game will probably be the cincher.
SEM win, and it's hard to see Sydney or Brisbane getting past on %.

Where is MU playing it's first SF?

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Perthworld  
Two weeks ago

The most talented team left outside United

What he really meant:

The most Victorian team left outside United.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Where is MU playing it's first SF?
Somewhere warm

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LV  
Two weeks ago

SEM looking sharp

Sykes killing them

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

"We aren't going to play our semi-final series in Victoria, it’s extremely unlikely there is any prospect of that, so we have to choose a location that is good for us as a team," Vickerman said.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Loving Moore's energy off the bench

Must be a leading candidate for 6th man of year

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

How much better are the NZ commentators?! They like just call the game without all the SuperCoach comments... love being able to watch the game without hitting the mute button

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Refs working hard to get NZ Back into this game

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Predictable LV comment

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Very unconvincing win by SEM, especially against an undermanned Breakers team.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Well done Breakers shit season for them logistically but still finished classy!

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Sykes was great but too much iso on offence

Defence was good, and they crashed the boards hard. They went after it.

Welcome to the playoffs SEM!

Re "undermanned" nz who were they missing? Abercrombie and loe? Anyone else? SEM missing Gliddon and Pineau so that's both teams roughly equally undermanned

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Absolutely. The entire Breakers organisation should be commended for staying professional against all hardships this season.

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LV  
Two weeks ago

Agreed nz commended on professionalism. But I did expect them to finish stronger in their home stand than they did

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hopefully Gliddon at least can re-join SEM in time for the Brisbane game

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

LV Pineau hasn't played all year. Grasping at straws.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Exactly, they lost their starting 5 man right before the season started, brutal

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

You have made adjustments for that by round 21! Smh

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Not really, hard to magic a budget 5 man local out of thin air

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

In the playoffs, must of made some adjustments that worked!

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

No they only made the playoffs because they're supremely talented and that's all that counts at the end of the day.

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Hahaha must have been tough to replace a dominant force like Pineau

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Anonymous  
Two weeks ago

Indeed. Pineau getting paid a lot for being injured. Yet produced nothing.

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LV  
Last week

Pineau was top 5 in the NBL in rebounds, blocked shots and FG% last year.

He played 1 game in the middle of this season

Rubbishing him just shows ignorance

With his absence, and hugely disrupted seasons for Sykes, Broekhoff, and Gibson, plus Creek's legal issues and now Gliddon's unavailability, SEM should be proud of their season.

And the rest of us should be excited at what they might be able to produce from here with hopefully a full contingent of players (minus Pineau).

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Anonymous  
Last week

Not excited at all to be honest. Pineau is meat and potatoes. SEM unlikely to prove me wrong.

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LV  
Last week

Rebounding and dirty work is meat and potatoes bball. What's your point?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Well said on all of that LV. Too many morons who only value scoring

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Anonymous  
Last week

The point is he hasn't played all year hence he isn't a loss like a Cotton with 3 rounds to go as an example. They have played 21 rounds without him. DP not playing doesn't categories SEM as depleted.

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Anonymous  
Last week

^^ yes it does, depleted all season is the point

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LV  
Last week

Not true- Pineau wasn't expected to be out all year. He actually played on 20th March vs Adelaide.

If you look at SEM roster, that's the one weakness- the lack of genuine inside players. This was shown in their loss to Brisbane when they were monstered on the boards. Pineau's skillset was intended to be- and would be- the perfect completion of their roster.

Despite his absence SEM still have the most talented roster after United.

They're 10-5 with Broekhoff who, despite not putting many points up, commands plenty of defensive attention and makes it difficult for opponents to double team the accomplished scorers Sykes, Creek or Adnam on the drive, or Wetzell in the post. 9-3 when Broekhoff plays 11 minutes or more.

As a United fan, I'm more scared of SEM than anyone else to be honest- now that I know Perth won't have Cotton, and we'll only have to play over there twice max, where we've just beaten them twice anyway (plus last season too).

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Anonymous  
Last week

They have played 34 of 35 games without him (the one game he played he played 11 mins and did nothing). They have adjusted. It's a totally different scenario to Cotton or a lesser extent Law. It is rubbish to suggest otherwise.

Gliddon out this weekend though was a significant out.

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LV  
Last week

Nonsense, when you construct a roster intending Pineau to be playing and your replacement is Mike Karena, you are absolutely missing him

Suggesting otherwise is beyond laughable

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Anonymous  
Last week

You're both right.

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Anonymous  
Last week

The fact I've tried to have a discussion with you is laughable. I should have known after all these years. This years roster has been sans Pineau, just like Perth has been sans Majok. I haven’t seen anyone saying Perth have been depleted all year.

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LV  
Last week

The difference is Perth found out Majok would be missing the season 10 weeks before the season began! So they had about 6 months more time than SEM to find a replacement, since SEM thought Pineau would be returning until late in the season

2ndly, Pineau was a starter last year with an impressive season, Majok hasn't been a consistent starter since he was first in the league 4 or 5 years ago. Pineau is better

Perth replaced Majok with Jervis who has played roles in a bunch of championships. SEM brought in Karena, an unproven 27 year old from the NZNBL

Pineau>Karena is a bigger gap than Majok>Jervis and the circumstances of The two injuries were completely different

You know all this though, pretty sure you're just the same troll who was trolling KET and and me with the NBL cup thing

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Anonymous  
Last week

Who was trolling you about the NBL Cup?

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Tomas  
Last week

Sorry, let me say that another way. No one was trolling you or KET about the NBL Cup. I asked you a pretty simple question which you avoided answering, and it wasn't related to the Cup at all.

No I am not the person who is "trolling" you in this thread.

You seem to be playing that card a bit lately though. Is that your new go-to move when you realise you've backed yourself into a corner?

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LV  
Last week

The trolling part is the ridiculous implication that the nbl cup, and United's overall fixture, was somehow set up with The purpose of giving United some special advantage

In this thread, its the idea that SEM isn't missing Pineau. And the follow up suggestion that The circumstances around Pineau's injury issues are comparable to Majok's Achilles snap in early November

Also on the question of Majok, given how Mooney's influence has declined since Magnay arrived, you could argue Perth would've always been better off with Mooney at the 5 and Gleeson being Gleeson would've realised this and played Mooney at the 5 from the beginning, making Majok a small part bench player (as he has been for the past few years) rather than the starter that people allege Majok was going to be

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LV  
Last week

In other words, I'm not sure Majok would've been the right fit to complement Mooney.

Just like Peatling and McDaniel at United starting over the likes of Barlow, Perth mightve found themselves playing DPs or inexperienced players in the starting 5 even if Majok was there

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Anonymous  
Last week

"The trolling part is the ridiculous implication that the nbl cup, and United's overall fixture, was somehow set up with The purpose of giving United some special advantage"

So you either didn't comprehend what was being said, or you're trolling in response to it.

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LV  
Last week

Why the constant whining about United then, and not SEM, who had one quick 6 day road trip in the 7 week period between April 2 and May 21, and were otherwise in Melbourne during that time?

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LV  
Last week

(And one game in Cairns on April 25, followed by 5 straight games in Melbourne)

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Anonymous  
Last week

The constant whining is because Perth now don't think they can win it, so let’s line up the excuses. If Cotton had got injured in the first half of the season they would not even play finals, they got lucky.

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Anonymous  
Last week

That makes no sense. The questions about the United schedule were raised all through out the season.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Same thing could be said for Pineau being the right fit with Wetzell and Moore. Stop talking LV you remove all doubt that your an idiot

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Anonymous  
Last week

LV made a solid argument, maybe you're just closed off to points of view other than your own

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