Jack
Last week

Next clubs to go from Big V to NBL1

Rumour has it there will be 2 Big V clubs promoted from Big V to NBL1 South for 2022.

There have been plenty of clubs mentioned in this discussion in the past. Who are likely the ones actually going?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Casey, keilor, Hume, hawthorn, McKinnon, Wyndham all want In eventually.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Already been decided Wyndham and Sunbury.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Are any of them up to it? Most of the new comers in NBL1 South now aren't.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Has been speculated endlessly which clubs are going.

I think the bigger question is, if NBL1 have set criteria regarding admission ? I would assume they would have specific requirements to enter the competition (Seating capacity ? Junior Program ? Location ? Infrastructure ? Longevity ? Potential roster (Men & Women)).

If the criteria was known, it'd be easier to know who was closer to admission.

Sooner or later NBL1 are going to have to cap the number of teams allowed. South is already at 18 teams. With the 6 above, would make it 24.

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Anonymous  
Last week

As long as they have solid junior numbers, it'll be fine.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Basketball's worst kept secret that Wyndham are going up next year

Either Sunbury, Hume or Keilor will get the other spot

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Anonymous  
Last week

Wyndham have started signing players and are well advanced in getting the program ready

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Anonymous  
Last week

So whats the criteria ?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Why do NBL1 have to tell the world how they select clubs?

Surely it is discretionary

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LC  
Last week

Wyndham should have an NBL1 team - they have the venue, and geographically a great region to nurture talent. However the elephant in the room is that they do not have a single team in VC in 2021.

A question: would two clubs moving to NBL1 mean two current NBL1 clubs drop down?

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Anonymous  
Last week

It should mean that, LC. Who are the likely ones to drop out? Albury-Wodonga and?

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Anonymous  
Last week

For transparency is why it should be revealed. Otherwise questions will be asked why X was admitted and Y was not.

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Anonymous  
Last week

If every man and his dog is in NBL1, the comp will lose prestige IMO. I think if those 6 teams all want in, the comp fees are too low.

North 14 teams
Central 10 teams
West 12 teams
South 18 Teams

Same thing happened when VC went from 12 to 20 and then they split at the half way point into VC reserve. What is the point? So players can say I play VC. This generation needs to be told they are not good enough and work harder.VJBL then went and dropped the east name for kids who weren't good enough and now you can play metro 10.

South needs to drop 2 teams and bring the total number back to 16.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Casey showing they shouldn't probably be in with how their men’s are going. Went overboard getting imports in when most teams just happy to enter this year, plus recruited a lot of locals.
And yet still, will not likely win the title.
Another year of big spend, and coming up short. Learn to build properly instead of outspending everyone each year, otherwise in nbl1 they are going to come up against other clubs who can spend more

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Anonymous  
Last week

McKinnon won't even be considered while they play game out of GESAC.

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Anonymous  
Last week

Casey are the least ready out of all of those clubs mentioned.

Wyndham is a no brainer. They should be going up. Finally someone in BV has some common sense.

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Anonymous  
Last week

"Casey are the least ready out of all of those clubs mentioned."

What ? How exactly ?

- New Stadium with excellent show court.
(More courts and bigger capacity than some existing NBL1 teams).
- Massive Junior base.
(And getting bigger each year. Would be bigger than some teams Assoc's in NBL1 I'd imagine)
- 45 odd junior rep teams
(One of the most in the state)
- 9 VC teams
(more than several NBL1 Clubs)
- Several kids named in state teams recently, others in development programs.
- The Womens team are doing well, even if the Mens team have underachieved. And both Youth Teams are doing ok (albeit not in Youth Champ yet).

Least ready ?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Casey have spent more money on a mediocre SCM men's roster than top NBL1 teams have spent in a 2 year period.

Perhaps win without spending ridiculous money. Actually just win first.

Wyndham not paying much at all and are heaps better than Casey in SCM

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Anonymous  
Last week

Thats what happens when you spend all your money on paying family and friends of the board

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Anonymous  
Last week

What do you mean?
The staff at Casey all have extensive backgrounds and expertise in their given job titles......

Kidding

Management look good by being gifted the fastest growing population dense area in the country, offering one of the most accessible family friendly sports.
They have done some good things but have had the easiest template to work with.

Put those same people in charge of other clubs not with that base and the place would be a rabble. They can just hide behind sheer weight of numbers in the area and a select one or two very capable people in the org (ex president) to do the heavy lifting

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Anonymous  
Last week

^ Well said!

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Anonymous  
Last week

The place is a cesspool full of politics

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Anonymous  
Last week

I think Wyndham will do well going up to NBL1.

Be great for basketball in that area.

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Jason  
Last week

Hawthorn is in so much debt and can barely afford their big v team.
The old GM ran it in the ground and the new GM doesn't come with a great back ground in business development.

Good luck to all team trying to get in

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Anonymous  
Last week

Hawthorn are a long way off NBL1

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Anonymous  
Last week

Was some talk of Albury / Wodonga moving to NBL1 East next year when it comes in. That could open a 3rd new spot in NBL1 South

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Anonymous  
Last week

Anyone know the timeline of when it will be announced?

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Anonymous  
Last week

Would it be possible for a club like Wallan to one day make NBL1?

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Anonymous  
Last week

#122 - Isn't the fact they are willing to spend money a good thing if they are aspiring to go up. And why should the mens position mid-table be the only reason Casey are admitted. Their Womens team is doing quite well. the 4 Associations that went over from Big V originally, did they occupy the top 4 spots in both Mens and Women's before they left Big V ?
The Mens teams were near the top, but Ringwood were 6th in the women, and Eltham were 10th.

So Casey Mens being Mid-table half way through a season, as a reason for them not being accepted, is dumb.

Regarding the nepotism mentioned in the management, I can't disagree. I think Casey was going to be big no matter who was there, as mentioned. But that adds weight to the argument that the club should be accepted based on the strength of their Association, not because you have some sort of personal issue with who is running the place.

If you're going to deny a club entry into a competition for the poor management, or the nepotism in appointments, most clubs in Victoria would struggle to be allowed in any comps. Couple of posts above people are saying how 'mismanaged' Hawthorn are. The trouble at Frankston over the last few years ? Scan the historical posts on Hoops and you'll see most clubs have had someone come on here and complain about their management. Maybe we should deny them entry into NBL1 too.

Fact is, they (probably along with Wyndham, although Junior comparison probably falls in favour of Casey at the moment), are the best placed programs to be accepted into NBL1, in Victoria. They tick more boxes than the other clubs mentioned. Whether you like them, their management or their mens team, or not.

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Rr  
Last week

A lot of people at Casey don't want to go to NBL1.
I hear a petition is being passed around against it.

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Anonymous  
Last week

That's because a lot of people at Casey must surely be asking why all of their money is getting thrown away on an underperforming senior program. And with the cost of that roster, they are seriously underperforming. Get your Youth teams into the top grade and your seniors will take care of themselves.

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Shayno  
Last week

wyndham??

not until they get security

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Anonymous  
Last week

Would it be possible for a club like Wallan to one day make NBL1?
no

Anyone know the timeline of when it will be announced?

tomorrow.

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Anonymous  
Last week

#622 - So only a club that has both teams winning State Champ should be considered to go to NBL1 ?

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Anonymous  
Last week

No more club funded family holidays for board members if you go to NBL1

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Anonymous  
Last week

How about drop most of the new ones that already in the NBL South and totally not up to it?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Like who ?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

The worst teams in NBL1 South would all play finals in the other conferences.

There is a huge gap between NBL1 South and the others.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

The worst teams in nbl south are atrocious.
Would definitely not make finals in nbl1 west or north. Maybe central.
Dandenong could almost qualify youth league bar 1 or 2 guys

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Anonymous  
Earlier this week

Name any of the new teams who are competitive?

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