Another Men's game and yet another loss. Either get rid of this disaster of an appointment Wolves Board or don't expect much support when you each come up for Re-election, starting with you President Hunter. We are an absolute shambles on and off the court in both NBL1 and WABL. We once branded ourselves the Destination of Choice for Basketballers. What a crock that is. Both Warwick and Perry Lakes are significantly ahead of us in almost all areas yet we shove our heads in the sand like nothing is wrong. Not to mention the severe lack of junior development in the Women's program, but then what do our aspiring juniors have to aim for when our NBL1 Women's coach keeps recruiting anyone who can dribble a ball from outside our own club and giving them court time before our own kids. Either stop the bleeding now or step aside so those who do want the club to succeed in the future can show you what you've been doing wrong!
Women wolves won in OT.
Interesting night between two clubs who do things differently. Willetton have an abundance of home grown players on both lists, with a few recruits to top out their respective lists. Wolves quite the opposite.
Juniors they seem to be poles apart.
Media etc wolves go abit overboard, trying to brand themselves like a professional outfit rather than a community rep club where the majority of business is domestic and junior rep, yet are coming across like they are in the nbl! While Tigers are often way behind in their social media presence/branding.
Also doubt Nener is the CEO at Willetton and doesn't have to worry about anything else to do with the program besides his job.
God this is pathetic. Name a single wolves junior who deserves big minutes that isnt getting them. NBL1 is not a charity for your sons and daughters to 'get a go'. The best players get the minutes, no matter how many trainings you took your son or daughter to throughout their WABL career. For gods sake, paying your WABL fees entitles you to NOTHING
That's exactly my point anon. We have from Joondalup up to Two Rocks as our catchment area. To put that into some perspective we have an area which if it were south of the river, would encompass Willetton, Lakeside, Cockburn down to Rockingham. Tell me those four clubs aren't producing some serious local talent. We have six full time staff in an office who do what exactly. Nobody said anything about anyone being entitled, but seeing you're clearly one of the members who thinks there isn't a problem, just compare our Women's program to our Southern neighbour in Warwick in terms of home grown development. I mean Jesus we can't even claim Seb, Trian or Rob as Wolves juniors seeing as we poached them from Senators many years ago with the same cheque book policy our women's team now endorses. Do we have to wait until they choke in four grand finals as well like the men did before the club finally sees where it's going wrong.
Joondalup have made a rod for their own back. No genuine due diligence done before they appointed the new CEO and Men's head coach (if they had, the feedback was out there, everything that's happened is a case of history repeating).
Problem is, if the board acts now they have to admit they "got it wrong', and no one on that board currently is prepared to damage their own ego to do so. They are very much stuck between a rock and a hard place.
The points raised here though, lack of genuine junior development that translates to NBL1/NBL/College players for both men and women, very clear to see. Lack of WABL success for many years now despite the large catchment area, size of domestic comp and "development" by paid employees...laughable. Very, very evident to anyone in the basketball community.
Time for a broom across the "board" up in the land of plenty it seems.
I find it laughable that anyone feels Perry Lakes is the "shining light" of junior development. Outside of the juniors Nixy and John Gardiner developed, there's none Parson's has brought on despite the success of their juniors since he's been there. Leary, Ferguson, Thomas, DT, BC, Cummings, Steindl, Redhage all names he's brought in to essentially coach on court with Purser, Smith and Cassir. Same as he did back in Cockburn. He wins in spite of himself, not because of him. Just lucky he's had guys like Field, Pursur, Cassir, Adekponyu to manage the culture, coach when required to cover his obvious shortfalls.
Think the above comment is pretty unfair and uninformed - to suggest that Nixy (who last coached PL in 2016) or or John Gardiner (who last coached in 2008) had any real impact on this current groups "development" is laughable. That, and Adekponye being a culture guy.
Of course at this level it is impossible to be 100% home grown and still contest for a championship year on year. I also think there's only so much that a coach at NBL1 level can do from a development standpoint. Ideally it's about balancing home grown talent with good recruiting - which I think Parsons has done exceptionally well at.
You also conveniently forgot to mention two home grown players, Mitch Clark and Cooper Hamilton who have both started pretty much every game for PL this season and were very much developed during Parson's reign. Then there is Bailey Cole who has real minutes of the bench and a handful of very young players who look like they have pretty bright futures.
Chalk and cheese compared to the Wolfpack.
Another Cockburn cockhead trying to turn the thread into a Parson bash. Who has said Hawks are a "shining light"? And please don't put Nix and developing juniors in the same sentence.
And, WTF does this mean? "He wins in spite of himself, not because of him."
Machado was a great signing for our league no doubt. he attracted great crowds and generated interest and profile. Whether Mandurah Magic got their moneys worth may remain to be seen but WA basketball and our NBL1 West product certainly did
hopefully it opens doors for me marquee signings like him in the future
How does the top 4 round out? With the new format it makes it much harder to cause an upset so these top 4 positions become more valuable. Perry Lakes missing Purser - will he back before finals? Lakeside broadcast on the weekend basically ruled out Prue and Shervil with season ending injuries and Bowie still managing a hamstring. Willeton have had Vigor and Scott out. Mandurah no Machado expected for finals and Warwick no Wroe. Rockingham seemly the only healthy top 6 team?
Will it just be the healthiest team wins?
not necessarily. hawks have still managed to continue winning without purser. Parsons has a track record of winning championships with key pieces unavailable. Did it at Cockburn and previously with Hawks.
Where it will be interesting is whether a team like Lakeside can continue winning without their stacked roster all being available. They got belted by Mandurah on their home floor. Whilst Bowie and Shervill didnt play they still had Isenbarger, Prue, Mackenzie, Davey and a 27 point contribution from Ben Lee. Plenty of talent to still get the job done.
The following week Hawks destroyed Mandurah who had the same roster as when they played Lakeside. Hawks without Purser.
Do not count out Warwick either. Ethan Elliott has taken his game to another level in the absence of Wroe who appears has reinjured himself? Elliott is more than showing he is one of the best emerging talents in WA averaging close to 20ppg over the last 10 games. They won the WCC last year and whilst they haven't yet completely clicked, come finals they have a lot of talent with a lot of experience with a very good coaching staff and largely the same roster as previous. They know what it takes to win.
Flames are also dangerous. But i dont think they are necessarily going to do a Bradbury and win by default due to health of other teams. Hire and Jervis arent what they used to be. Godfrey Beard and Redhead have been really solid for them as have their two other pro guys in Riak and Bior. Im not sure they have fully clicked either so will be interesting to see how they go in a high pressure situation having a number of new pieces.
Top 4 get a double chance now Kobe. I guess you could argue that a 3 game final gives more certainty to the higher seed.. but as top 2 only need to win 2/3 over two weeks rather than 4/6 and all their finals games (aside from GF) at home to lock in the GF it gives top 2 a stronger position. I guess I meant upset in the sense of a lower seed making it through to the GF, not just an upset in a 1 game final.
I meant upset in the sense of a lower seed making it through to the GF, not just an upset in a 1 game final.That makes more sense, yeah, but you only need to beat a top-four side twice to get to the grand final now. Previously from the bottom four you needed to win four games against top-four teams to advance that far.
Certainly sudden death means a single "series" is more likely to see an upset. The top four only get a double chance against each other, so you won't see a top four team lose to a 5-8 team and stay alive anyway.
[Assuming it's the same as the AFL system, which from memory I think it is, but it's been a while since it was all announced.]
It's certainly wide open. Hawks continued winning without Purser against lowly sides so not sure too much could be read into that? They should have won all those games with the talent they have.
Finals a different beast though. Senators will certainly be there abouts, as WCC showed last year, they are certainly in their "window". Core group been together a while and when the going gets "finals tough" no doubt they'll cause headaches. Lakeside suffering some big injury blows at the wrong time but as #866834 pointed out, still plenty of talent to get the job done. Dave Daniels has proven time and again he can out coach the majority of coaches in this league.
Flames an anomaly, and certainly not one the top 2-3 teams would be itching to play. On a good night they can beat anyone, Petrik knows how to coach them through tight games and while maybe not what they once were, Hire Jervis and even Godfrey can think their way through a close game and do what's needed.
Hawks probably most susceptible, on paper the best squad but Parsons in 0-4 in tight games, and it's the top coaches who have shown him up, in Ellis, Daniels, Petrik and co (Summerville out coached a full strength PLH team only recently). If it's a tight finals game, I'd have serious concerns if I was a Hawks supporter.
And don't forget the prodigal son in Nener. Despite injury concerns they are still top 4 and he's got that group bought in. Again, like Flames, on any given night they could rock a Lakeside or Hawks unit and cause an upset.
Is there anyone in the bottom half capable of causing an upset? What has Summerville and the Wolfpack got left (very little IMHO), but can you discount them totally? And what about the young guns from Cockburn, a solid 6 weeks to close the season out, could throw a late spanner in the works.
Whatever your thoughts, will be a fascinating finals series throughout.
Magic with Machado are one of the best sides in the competition. A bit of a stretch to say Hawks have only beaten lowly sides without purser when they gave Mandurah a good hiding without him.
daniels has largely underachieved with the roster he has had at his disposal.
as far as a team you wouldn't want to get on their good night in the finals i would say redbacks. they have really underachieved for the majority of the season but seem to be getting some form recently. If Timms and Jackson are on they are a very difficult team to stop. Nelson is going to get his buckets one way or another but really needs these other guys to contribute consistently to contend.
Gattorna doesnt mind serving up a facial or two either.
Tigers need Vigor to be any chance. Outside of Vigor they go down to young Gerovich and Collins as their bigs. Whilst they are handy they dont bring the same impact or experience of Vigor.
Wolves coaching staff size has long been discussed in the forum. I cant remember a time a team has had 7 coaches on the bench? Does anyone know what their actual roles are?
I know they say many hands make light work but at what point does it become counterproductive with so many cooks in the kitchen?
what a weekend of games
wolfpack totally shat the bed and miss out on the playoffs. so good to see etteridges legacy of the good old choke has remained even after his departure. great bounceback win from the buccaneers today after losing by 60 on friday night. how much was that win even paying on sportsbet?
lightning hung tough today against the tiges in the real game of the round to secure 2nd spot on the ladder after failing to show up in mandurah last night. no prue, no shervill for the playoffs and bowie only playing every second game it seems. lakeside could well go out in straight sets and coach dave could head home for the holidays a bit earlier.
cougars men have hit a bit of form late in the season with two big wins and could cause another upset yet. wouldn't that upset a few of the salty ex-cougars who migrated to Mandurah. magic sold the farm to get machado and Travers and neither will be available for playoffs. already got their eyes on Cotton Travers and Machado teaming up next year for the magic and wildcats.
who knows what could happen when redbacks and senators play each other next weekend. both teams look like they want to fight their teammates more than the other team. reds desperately need their injured starters back to be a chance they looked very average against the cougars on friday night and had no answer for the human highlight reel Nick Pozoglou (get this man an NBL gig please!).
hawks and flames are looking good for the GF in a few weeks you would say but tigers could give them a fair shake if they can remain healthy.
Not sure about sack the board but Summerville has to be gone in a coaching capacity at the very least. At no time this season despite much hype on his signing, did the players look like they has bought into his game plan. You'd have to say that both Trian and Seb may have played their final games. Great careers but injuries to both this year have proven father time has definitely caught up with them both.
Hawks v Flames - The flames did beat the Hawks at Bendat earlier this year and that was without Hire or Jervis, huge danger game for Parsons boys - Rockingham to stun the minor premiers
Lightning vs Tigers - Word is Bowie is done for the season as is Prue. But do the Tigers have too much reliance on Scott and Vigor. Lakeside to get the W in another thriller
Magic v Cougars - No Machado makes this a totally different game. Holmes will have his hands full with Carlwell but who from Mandurah can stop Field and Pozoglou is the huge question. Cockburn in an upset for mine
Senators v Redbacks - Perth absolutely ravaged with injuries at the wrong time of the season. Warwick just sneaking under the radar somewhat. Senators to win in their final home game of the season before needing to win two on the road to make the big dance
Hawks vs Cougars
Tigers vs Senators
Not sure how Ethan Elliott doesn't win the u23 NBL1 award. MacKenzie literally sits on a wing in a system run for him and looks good because opposition teams best defenders go to Bowie, Isenbarger and Shervill. Elliott on the other hand ran starting point as a 17 year old and his numbers only got better as the season went on (Not that they were horrible to begin with he just developed amazing consistency with the Wroe injury forcing that accelerated development somewhat) Honorable mentions to the Willo pairing of Williams and Mincherton, as well as Redhead down at Rocko.
If Bowie stays fit be wins League MVP and I still don't agree with Pozoglou winning it either. Bob carries that team yet never gets the credit from an awards perspective he truly deserves. Weird season as there was no real standout player
Seems like most teams played 22 games, but the regional teams only played 20 and a handful of the metro teams only played 21? What's going on there? I recall a game late in the season being cancelled because of an issue with the floor, but I don't recall anything else?
Four men's games were cancelled and unable to be replayed.
Tigers vs Giants - COVID related
Flames vs Giants - COVID related
Buccs vs Slammers - COVID related
Buccs vs Eagles - Court/humidity problem
As all of the games involved either the Giants or Buccs, it was deemed impossible for them to be replayed before the end of the regular season.
As the NBL1 West ladder is based on win/loss percentage (and not premiership points) no team was either advantaged or disadvantaged.
From the NBL1 West Rules:
6.9.2 End of Regular Season
(a) For the purpose of displaying each competitions ladder at the end of the regular season in order to determine a finals fixture, teams shall be placed in order of win/loss percentage;
(b) If two (2) or more teams have the same win/loss percentage of all games in the competition, the ladder order for the tied teams shall be decided by;
1. Head to head only if all teams equal on win/loss percentage have played identical home and away games against one another.
2. Overall percentage for/against of all regular season games.
3. Largest win margin percentage for all regular season games.
If these criteria still cannot decide, a draw shall decide on the classification.
Bit harsh on Ellis! If Wroe doesn't go down for the season they are easily top four, perhaps up there with Perry Lakes.
I’d hate to think what Hire got paid this season after hearing what was being told around the traps pre season.
CJ has done a great job improving the Redbacks over the course of the season. Depth is going to be their issue moving forward. Anyone’s game v tigers next week.
Rockingham v Mandurah should have a great crowd and atmosphere on Friday.
Does anyone give any teams playing the Friday a punchers chance trying to back up straight away on Saturday?
Women’s, eagles blow a 20 point lead at halftime to Willetton. Great comeback but concerning for tigers they were down that big early.
Elimination finals thoughts? Redbacks simply put the queue in the wrack v wolves or seriou concerns for next week?
It's been an issue for a long time but it's sad to see where the priorities are at Rockingham.
Things the Flames have spent money on in 2021:
1. Roster: Hire (800) Jervis (600) Bior (400) Riak (400) Godfrey (250) J Beard (150) Durnin (150) Petrik (7k+)
Close to 3,000 per week and then add Petrik's season salary as well, and that's just the men's team mind you (Boag, Richards, Ciabatonni & Burrows would be at least 2k total per week), yet after last night you can see the Flames losing next week although they should beat Mandurah but their record at Lakeside is not good and I can't see that changing should they get past the Magic on Friday night
2. NBL1 Glitz: Intro Lights, Pyrotechnics after three point shots, New grandstand, Huge new screen which serves very little purpose (You're at the game already so why would you watch the screen?!) As mentioned above, yet their WABL program run around in old uniforms whilst the NBL1 program has endless funds. This is what happens when your club president is also the NBL1 director.
Not to mention the significant coaching stocks, particularly in their wabl which have departed in the last five years or so. Cooper, Samuelson, Insch, Clayden before that and now word that one of their few remaining quality WABL coaches in our very own Random is leaving in the next month to take up a new job in ACT. No good having all the money spent on unnecessary accessories for NBL1 if you don't have any local talent being developed in your juniors due to lack of player and coach development simply not being a priority.
Boucaut and the current board have killed the Flames in the long term and have very little success to show for the significant amount of money spent. If I were a Rockingham parent with a half talented kid, I know I'd be looking elsewhere in the near future unless their entire club culture changes down there to focus on what should be important like player development and retaining quality coaches, rather than glitz and glamour with zero to little substance.
Ellis is in his 6th/7th season in charge and only have 1 championship last year in a watered down west coast classic. Time to move on and bring in a fresh perspective.
Redbacks are dangerous. The trio of nelson, gatorna & timms are as good as any in this league. I have them beating willo next week.
Hawks still the team to beat.
Men - Friday Night
Mandurah v Rockingham - Flames by double digits. Jervis, Bior and Hire inside will cause Carlwell all kinds of problems.
Perth vs Willetton - Tevin Jackson is the X Factor here, if he can have a huge offensive game and shut down Damian Scott on the defensive end, the Redbacks are a more than handy chance to pull off two upsets in as many weeks. Perth by 3
Men - Saturday Night
Rockingham vs Lakeside - Prue's 400th, need we say more. Lightning to shoot the lights out on their way back to a Grand Final spot.
Perth vs Perry Lakes - Hawks well rested and Parsons will have a solid scout on the Redbacks. Perth's injuries could be their undoing here and the fairytale will end for CJs men. Hawks by double digits
Perry Lakes vs Lakeside Grand Final
I'm a bit done with these podcasts saying "Rockingham without Garbin oh what could have been".
She didn’t play a game, she rescinded her contract, it’s as good as saying “what if cambage played for them”.
She won’t be back, they under achieved and they should be annoyed their season was a failure
it's as good as saying "what if cambage played for them".No, it isn't, that's ridiculous. Cambage would never have considered NBL1 and was never even in talks with Rockingham. Garbin was actually signed to a contract.
If you can't tell the difference between those situations...
tigers def redbacks
flames def magic
cougars def redbacks
eagles def senators
hawks def tigers
flames def lightning
wolves def eagles
tigers def cougars
grand finals women wolves v tigers men hawks v flames.
Redbacks def Tigers
Flames def Magic
Cougars def Redbacks
Senators def Eagles
Hawks def Redbacks
Lightning def Flames
Senators def Wolves
Tigers def Cougars
GF's Senators def Tigers Women, Hawks def Lightning Men
Watched the Flames Magic game online, aside from Grace that entire team should be ashamed of that performance. They literally did not show up and pretty much let the Flames do whatever they wanted from the opening tip. I think its quite obvious the the average punter watching that the only reason Kyle is in the team is because his dad is an assistant - He provides nothing on offense and not much more on the defensive end. The only decent product the Magic have is young Parker and with the previous links to Cairns, one could make the case that if he is even offered an NBL1 contract over there next season, he should seriously look at taking it and getting away from the dumpster fire that is the Mandurah men's team. Lakeside will also not be happy as the Flames starters are now very rested ahead of tomorrow night's clash - makes it a much more interesting game indeed. Redbacks with a huge upset for the second week in a row on the road, and now they dare to dream and make it three in a row against the title favourites in the Hawks tomorrow night at Bendat. Timms with 36 and 21 tonight, will cause Ferguson and Thomas a lot of problems tomorrow night if they can not contain his elite athleticism, whilst the matchup of Purser vs Jackson will play a major role in the outcome of the game. Should be two fantastic games to determine who makes the grand final next week
Sooo while teams punch their ticket to the big dance tonight, early calls for teams that better get their act together this off season?
Kalamunda men and women - club is a mess. Losing jewel Williams is embarrassing.
Can south west men and women get any worse?
Will lakeside women fix their mess of a year?
word is that more than just williams from suns women will be elsewhere next season
unsure if utley goes around again. does ettridge take the reigns?
wolves men was a massive underachievement with the roster they have. no other way of putting it
lakeside men bowing out is a pretty big underachievement not making the grand final let alone winning the whole thing. The team is loaded with talent but couldnt get the job done on their home floor against an ageing Flames who were on the back end of a double header
meanwhile parso and those hawks boys continue to get the job done. Ferguson finishing 2nd in MVP voting and not making the All Star team has since shown how much of a big mistake the decision makers made. Hes in incredible form right now and anchoring that team. Will be a nice matchup seeing big Tommy J and Fergy go head to head in the GF.
Tigers women would be favorites to take the womens GF out with their current form
Utley is out
Mansfield is out
They are in big trouble up there.
Ettridge to the men.
Who would even want that women's program? Who is left?
Roscoe to Redbacks (friends with Dyer)
Motroni out somewhere
Ironmonger probably won’t play again?
Mansfield won’t be there obviously
Williams to Cougars makes most sense (relationship with TT)
Don't rule out Williams to Lakeside - In a relationship with ben Johnson, could easily see that eventuating. On the Lightning too, with their men getting knocked out before many expected, will there be a push for Daniels to hand over the reigns to the Women's team so he can focus solely on one program and ensuring he gets the absolute best out of them?
Suns are in all sorts of trouble up there. Does Motroni join Jorjah Smith down at Rockingham? What good can the arrogant choking hazard do for that Men's program without his brains trust in L Brennan by his side?! You would almost be better off putting Warren Kuhn back in charge!
Team Coaches 2022:
W: Rob Thompson
W: Advertised as of 1800 today
M: Advertised as of 1800 today
I wouldn't be so sure Allen is safe. All reports suggest players aren't happy.
When will Ellis move on from senators? No one at the club ballsy enough to let him go. End of an era, stirling need some fresh perspective.
Who will want to coach the slammers? The job no one wants... Slammers really need to invest into some decent recruits and chase sponsorship otherwise they will be stuck at the bottom of the league every year.
Why would mansfield move on from suns? Underachieving season yes but with limited roster. Isn't that his home club?
id expect mia jacobs to move before she heads off to college. does she go back to lightning?
why would williams relationship with ben johnson have anything to do with her going to lakeside? Johnson was at kalamunda this year and rockingham the previous 2 years. Unless you are thinking about his brother Frank who is a coach at lightning?
Suns have had a number of pretty good coaches come through the door and leave not long after. in both the womens and the mens programs. something isnt right
wolves men need a new direction it would seem. nix would be a good option but who do they then get to coach their women? You would think with all the dysfunction in that mens team the club would be looking to move quickly to bring some stability and lock down some of their key guys. Cummings, Wade, Formosa, Viangina would all be guys that any other club would jump at if there was a chance.
Will be interesting to see what happens with the lakeside men too. do they keep their roster together? Does Prue retire for the 5th time? Does Bowie go to the highest bidder? after the season he had you would imagine there will be a number of clubs throwing some big money at him, by NBL1 West standards anyway. If there is movement with guys like Prue and Bowie does Armour stay? A few of Lakesides role players may also get interest from other clubs. Davey and Lee could be guys other clubs show interest in.
It's amazing to see the pot shots against Greg Hire - out of all the posts on here there's a common theme, talk shit about the Wolves Coaching staff, talk crap about about Thwaites and talk crap about Hire. For a guy that has been relatively successful in the NBL/SBL there are some bitter human beings. For those that are talking about the money he's on, this is nothing but innuendo, why would he discuss how much he's getting paid. Yep, he's not playing as good as previous years, he's slowed down, but he showed his worth over the weekend. He lost a mate to suicide this year, which would obviously impact him in the work he does and has assumed responsibility as a caregiver for someone because of another situation so clearly his priorities aren't NBL1 .For anyone that watched the game against Lakeside they would've noticed that Jervis/Hire were the difference makers and Durnin was the game changer. Hopefully it turns out to be a great game on Saturday but don't understand the constant criticism of a guy that has given an incredible amount to the game here in WA.
Thwaites is on a decent package, I can't see anything less than the GM of NBL1 or higher tempting him at BWA. Biggest disappointments of 2021 for mine:
1. Rockingham Women: Had three WNBL players in Burrows, Boag and Ciabattoni yet were not competitive in Finals. Spending alot of money for no success is a quick way to be out of a job if you're Coach Knowles.
2. Warwick: Entire NBL1 program probably needs a refresh. Ellis' tried and true formula may have worked for a much weaker West Coast Classic, but their weaknesses were well and truly there for all to see this year. Release King and find a better, younger version; Build the team around Elliott who is clearly the future of the club in the Men's program. Morley underachieved after getting a Grand Final team from D'Agostino's time in charge. Way too much emphasis on running everything through Barr and nowhere near the support required to be a genuine title threat
3. Lakeside Men: Were touted as the Title favourites for a large majority of the season, had the luxury of one less game than their Prelim opponents yet could not get the job done on their own court. Time to find two new Imports, with the luxury that Isenbarger is now an aussie. Bowie too injury prone and the live and die by the 3 ball mentality has to evolve for the Lightning to be considered genuine contenders in 2022.
Think we are underestimating how good McKenzie was for lakeside. They made their big surge once he got back from college, and was the difference in the final against tigers. He goes back a week earlier and tigers likely get past them in first final.
They'll be fine. Wouldn’t say a disappointment. Issue might be a few years down the track once top tier guys are gone or decline. But saying they are a disappointment abit harsh.
Biggest would have to be wolves. Bring in a 6’10+ kiwi, recruits from interstate, an import, still have their veteran core intact who at worst give you one of the better benches in the league and to not even make playoffs is not great. Especially with the amount of chest pumping they do on social media.
I don't buy into the McKenzie hype. He gets the third best defender on court regularly as opposition teams need to contain Isenbarger and Bowie as a priority on the scout. So you get the likes of McKenzie & Lee who get made to look alot better than they are because they sit on weakside waiting for the inevitable double team on one of the Lakeside studs, then get points from that. Case and point Saturday night versus Rockingham, and when his team needed him the most he couldn't step up when truly needed. Not saying the kid doesn't have talent, but I'm not sold he is the wunderkind some are making him out to be.
Wolves would be my notable admission. Do Salinas and Iliadis hang up the boots? If they do, expect the chequebook to come out again as they do not have the stocks up there to be competitive with their local kids that would remain in the program. Does Nix have to win the GF on Friday night with the Women to be considered a genuine candidate for the Men's gig?
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