SEJBT grading needs a good look at

Grading for the SEJBT tournament needs a good over haul in my opinion. We had a team entered in U16 B grade and came up against VJBL 1 and VC teams....and now those same teams are playing in the grand final.

I felt sorry for the Casey 16.4 team who are graded in VJBL 4 having to play against those teams....credit to the coaches and kids for not giving up and still scoring on them. My childs team did ok in Pool A which was definitely the easier pool but man I feel sorry for that 4s team, especially when those VJL 1 and VC teams knew full well there main players who were at the U16 combine were going to come back on Sunday and play for those teams.

Goes to show which clubs value tournament wins and coaches ego trips over anything else.

Topic #52704 | Report this topic

+
Two weeks ago

important for communication pre grading - I usually email tournament admins (not specifically this tourney) and say what strength team we are putting in and my thoughts re around where we'll be at for the carnival - but at the end of the day it's their call. You could email your thoughts to them. However always seems to be someone after easy silverware. Having said that - sometimes if the team has been taking a hit regularly - something like this can improve morale.

Reply #962108 | Report this post

Lakers33
Two weeks ago

The main goal of most Tournament Grading process is not to create even Pools.

Teams that enter are seeded according to the compositon of the players that register for the team.

The seedings then dictate what teams get allocated to what Pools.

Each Pool will have a spread of teams. The higher seeded teams will have an easier path to finals series rounds. The fixtures are structured so that the highest seeded teams in each pool have the easiest path to the SF matches.

If one looks very closely at VJBL, a similar thing happens.
In a 10 team VJBL grade, you usually see two really strong teams, six middling teams, and two weak teams. Unless something odd happens, the two strong teams are a shoe in to make the finals. The six middling team all have a decent crack at making the finals. And the bottom two teams are there just to make up the numbers.

The ultimate goal of grading is never to create even grades where every team has a nearly equal chance of beating every other team.

Reply #962113 | Report this post

Anon
Two weeks ago

End of the day its a 2 day tournament + final, 6 weeks after the worlds biggest junior tourny. Kids wont remember who they lost to in 2 weeks

Reply #962122 | Report this post

Esky 21
Two weeks ago

What, you don't feel sorry for Casey 3 and Knox 3 who are both graded in VJL5???

Reply #962123 | Report this post

LONGTIME_BBALL_PAREN
Two weeks ago

"What, you don't feel sorry for Casey 3 and Knox 3 who are both graded in VJL5???"

100% I do. why those teams couldn't be graded with Casey 4s in the tournament and another 2 teams maybe Sandringham 3s and Waverley 2s (VJBL 4) to make the pool more even and let the VC and 1s teams duke it out in a pool together is beyond me. This is why SEJBT needs to look at the way they grade.

For what its worth Sandringham 2s took B grade out...beating Warragul by 28 points. GF wasn't even close...thats how wrong the grading was.

Reply #962136 | Report this post

LC
Two weeks ago

Some teams from some clubs were stacking their teams with players from higher teams that were not playing in the event and this makes things harder too.

Always hard to grade teams that come from country that are not in VJBL, but a couple of the Bendigo teams I saw were graded way too low and were smashing teams by 50+.

Also, some "Development" teams were playing 3 or 4 current rep players which made a mockery of them being development teams.

Reply #962140 | Report this post

AT
Two weeks ago

Bendigo actually contacted SEJBT when fixtures were released as they were unhappy where teams were graded. It's the 2nd year teams have been put into grades a lot lower than asked for.

Reply #962400 | Report this post

Hoops

SEJBT grading needs a good look at

Recent Posts