Utopia
Years ago

Boti's ABL pre season write up

Does anyone know if this article is his pre season report

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21389763-5006371,00.html

or will he be doing one like he used to do with ins and outs, predictions etc?

I hope he does, always have enjoyed those whether it be for ABL, NBL or WNBL

if anyone knows please advise

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Isaac  
Years ago

Be sure to check out this weeks Messenger (at least the Eastern Courier edition or whatever it is) for Dale Clarke's ABL intro too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As per usual boti shows his bias. Great even write up about all the teams.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

what is his bias? he is from Southern now, thought it was a decent write up, hope the other one is coming though

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Isaac  
Years ago

He is a journalist, not doing PR on behalf of every team. If you want to read the 'write about everyone' spiel, get the Central ABL press releases that I've already posted.

The Advertiser is a newspaper reporting on things of public interest (even if 90% of them are shoddy gossip and Dickface Confidential), not a newsletter from the association.

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DB5  
Years ago

Dickface confidential Isaac???

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Isaac  
Years ago

Sorry, is that your favourite part of the paper?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good to see it's all about the men...typical Advertiser, and typical Australian sports in general

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DB5  
Years ago

Nah mate, was just laughing at the description...Would rather read the classifieds than that.

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Isaac  
Years ago

124530, guess which gets the crowds out of NBL and WNBL? Can appreciate you want more talk of womens sport, but if you want to further womens basketball, write your own press release and news or discuss it on here?

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Cameron crazy  
Years ago

Lions' young brigade to (to) do battle  Dale Clarke

Capacity crowds are bound to be common in the state league basketball season which kicks off this Saturday.

Key signing around the league make the 2006/07 season look likes one of, if not the most talented competitions seen in SA in the past decade.

North Adelaide has, on paper, arguably the most talented men's side since the 1980's.

The Rocket's NBL calibre starting five consists of Brisbane Bullet And NBL champion Dusty Rychart, South Dragons rookie Michael Zoric, 36ers development player Erick Burton, former 36er Nick Harbour and divisions one US college player Ryan Kersten.

Ricky Simpson has some big challenges ahead this season with his young Central Districts side.

With pure scorer Jye Watson leaving the club for Eastern, Justin Wilkey not playing this season, and one of the leagues most rounded players Paul Vandenbergh retiring, the Lions are left with a severely depleted side.

Simpson will look to develop some of the clubs promising juniors, while Chris Clausen, Jarrod Graves and matt Atkins try to lug the team across the lines for some victories.

The Lions' women will not be playing in the state league this season, after key players left the club, leaving less then five players in the senior program.

Men's top 5: North Adelaide, Forestville, West Adelaide, Norwood and Sturt.

Women's': West Adelaide, Stuart, Forestville, Southern and North Adelaide.

This article appeared in the messenger news review on March 14th 2007.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Good work from the messenger...I have head they are planning more coverage of the ABL and Bball in general this year. Lets hope so

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Dana  
Years ago

hey 124530..
if you want to see how male oriented sport is in this country (and others too), try watching ESPN.
Constant ads for erectile disfunction! Why is this so? Men having problems getting it up and keeping it up must be the go, we are bombarded with advertisements for solutions to this 'common' problem on ESPN. Funny!! (NOT!) However, becoming a tad boring..not only do we get SPAM'ed via email for the same thing, now we have it on Billboards and on ESPN (among others). We are being SPAMed on TV too. I guess that must be what life is all about?? Shame!
*giggle*

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DB5  
Years ago

Damn SPAM, I hate that fake ham crap...

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Dana  
Years ago

Ha ha DB. ;)

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Love the;  
Years ago

Dana; & we have to put up with a string of ads on TV showing young women frolicking in the ocean and having heaps of fun with their mates, normally in WHITE bikini's & normally going really phyco, just to sell sanitary products..... oh wait; I actually LIKE to see young girls frolicking in the ocean! Sorry no probs there.

Why do they always wear white in those adds?

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Dana  
Years ago

I agree love the...neither needs to be on TV. I mean if they didn't spend so much on advertising, maybe the sanitary products would be cheaper.
(Problem with the comparison though is sanitary products are necessary...but is VIAGRA?)

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DB5  
Years ago

Ask Hugh Heffner, he would think it is necessary.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isaac - so I'm guessing the men's competition put together their own press release, then? Wow.
If that's the case, which I'm thinking it's probably not, then why didn't this person take the initiative to put one together for the women as well, or better yet, how about a combined press release for both the men and women? I work as a jouranlist, sunshine, but funnily enough I don't go running off producing stories every time a press release pops up. As for bringing up more topics about women's basketball on this website, I don't find it all that inspiring when you regularly allow uneducated, chauvinistic comments that either relate to bodysuits, or women not even being talented enough to warrant a female basketball competition to be published on this website...just a few things to think long and hard about. Oh and to answer you question, I think the NBL gets more people to its games. Perhaps something to do with the PR and media hype it receives?? Just a thought.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that more people enjoy watching the game?

Have you asked Boti why he didn't give more attention to the womens league? Maybe there's a reason. Who knows - I didn't write the story, I'm just making suggestions.

Not sure I'm following your comment about a 'female basketball competition not being published on this site'? I voluntarily ran online stats for a few years on both the mens and womens leagues. The Hoops SA tipping competitions have covered both leagues also (voluntarily too).

This is, for the most part, an open forum. I don't endorse any of the views published. One person might want to openly express their chauvinism talking about bodysuits, another might want to embarrass themselves by admitting they follow Port - so be it.

The same thing happens out in the real world.

If you have a problem with the content that people put up, try your hand at off-setting it with the sort of content you would rather see. Fight a negative with a positive.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The messanger in the western suburbs did mention the womes comp as well with in's & out's from most clubs. In particular I remember F/ville, North, West and Centrals (I think the later for not having a team, stand corrected though)having all being mentioned.

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Orlando Smith  
Years ago

Isaac, are you running the stats again. It is the best stat comparison around please dont stop it.

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Utopia  
Years ago

Tampons and Viagra aside does anyone know the answer to my question? Is Boti doing a piece tomorrow on ins and outs for both comps?
Feeling a bit Stiff with the responses!
(poor attempt at a joke i know)

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Isaac  
Years ago

Unfortunately, it is a lot of effort and my business is very, err, busy, so I am not sure.

It might be something that is more feasible with some help from other volunteers so we'll see. After the first season when players started switching clubs, I did a crappy job of changing the code that reads in statlines and so it's a bit of a pain in the butt these days.

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lockstock  
Years ago

With all due respect 124601 more people at mens games has absolutely nothing to do with PR and media hype.. basketball has been by far my favourite sport since I was born, and I can barely sit through a women's game (Just My Opinion remember).. there is no doubt they have the skills and the fundamentals in many cases superior to that of the men, but no dunks, high flying rebounds, hard bumps, aggressiveness towards the opposition, fast fast breaks etc makes it rather boring

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thedoctor  
Years ago

(#124530), if you work in journalism you would understand that Boti would have limited control over what gets printed, and at this time of year with the NBL finished I dare say he has a set number of words to play with. There is a bit of hype surrounding the mens' comp this year with a very talented pool of players competing. The Advertiser is in the business of selling papers and more people want to hear about Dusty playing at North than about the Centrals womens team dying - just the facts.

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Isaac  
Years ago

A good point - fairly often Boti will make mention of parts of his articles being cut by his editors.

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DB5  
Years ago

Utopia, there is usually a 2 page spread on both Men's and Women's comps just before the season, may be on Saturday??

#124601, I dare say Isaac did think long and hard about a lot of things putting this site together..as if it is his fault that people post things about girls in body suits!!
There have been plenty of topics discussed on here regarding the women's comps, best players etc...

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Isaac  
Years ago

124601, a full story was written that included season previews for the mens and womens leagues but it was heavily edited. Tomorrow's story has been reduced too. There's no reason that Boti should face criticism for that, IMO.

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Dana  
Years ago

Doh! Utopia...I had a giggle.
LOL

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EC  
Years ago

From my observation from attending ABL games over the last few years has been that there are just as many spectators for the women's games as the men's. It is very obvious to me how much of the stadium is cleared once the women's games are over and the men's begin. I often have to wait for the end of the women's games just to find a decent seat. So I don't know why there is not as much written about the women as they attract spectators as much as the men do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

http://www.messengersouth.com.au/article/2007/03/13/228_south_sports.html

for Dale'sweet writeup ;0)

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