Crocs arent tht great a team, and I couldnt imagine the 36ers playing a worse quarter than that 'history making' 5point haul. Luke needs to be getting 15+ shots up and thats just simple basketball. When he gets the ball, he makes shots, draws extra defense and simply gets fouled other times before he is allowed to make a move. What does all this mean? He makes good things happen. Grizzard should play more minutes tonight, this Crocs team isnt that tall and dont have that many consistant weapons. Watch for cedar, had a shocker against the Breakers but can burn you, seemingly from nowhere! Ellis could be good for us, forces up shots and is horribly undersized, hopefully he attemtps to go to work a bit tonigt, because he wont have much success against our big bigs! Get the job done boys and come home, enough of of this road BS, be professionals and give the Adelaide fans what they deserve.

Im backing them, 36ers by 10+

Sixers to win by 15 Crocs played in New Zealand on Thursday thats tough to travel back from Sixers will wear them down.

A lot depends on Schensch's health, I'm genuinely worried about this one and I don't think Grizz is the answer just yet either - a few more trainings are needed there.

The 6ers are currently stuck in Cairns - trouble with flights - i assume it would have something to do with the amount of rain we have had - 500ml in 3 days up towards Cairns!

Wow Rod, that's big news! I wouldn't mind if the game was postponed until Schensch and Winitana are healthy and Grizz settles in.

Keep us informed.

If the Townsville guards are hittign their outside shots then the 36ers will have a tough battle - our guards have struggled to defend in that situation for the last 5 years and this year is better but we still have problems doing it effectively and for a whole game.

I think Bruce has to play more minutes (stay out of foul trouble) as I feel he's been pretty good (and maybe the best - interested in what others may think there) at getting the ball to Schenscher in scoring positions (in the 3 games I've seen this year). If that happens, we're looking good.

Whatever happens, play hard and play for 48 minutes guys. I'll be following the play by play and cheering you on for the win. Go 6ers!

Oh crap!
The last thing we need if for the guys to be caught in Cairns. What would happen in that situation? Reshedule or forfeit? They may be playing Sun afternoon.

Yes, this is the danger game. Their minds would not be in a clear place at the moment.

The game would have to be rescheduled, they couldn't make us forfeit it's not our fault.

Any updates DJRod?

What is wrong with Winitana? I thought it was weird how he only played a minute.

Yeah they have arrived, chartered jet through Brad Davidson's mate. Now that is the ultimate teammate right there haha

will there be radio coverage?

Through Crocs website. They have a guy tony who has been doing it for years.

6ers are going to get beat bad tonight. Whoever said Crocs are crap need to really have a long look at themselves. The two game road trip that 6ers are on is equivalent to the return trip that the crocs have made from NZ. Not sure if the 6ers are steady with gizz yet it will take time for it to start clicking.

Sorry 6ers fans Crocs by 20 .....

last nights result really stuffed up us for a top 4 finish.

i was looking at the fixture of both Perth and 36ers for the remainder of the season (i dont think the Crocs will get 4th...if they do, they'll have the same amount of wins as us which means we will get 4th), and it was going to come down to the game in 3 weeks time between us and the Wildcats here at the dome. The winner of that game was most likely to finish 4th.

now we will need to manage to only drop 1 game and rely on perth dropping 2 or 3 - which i cant see happening as they have a pretty light run home.

but ya never know.

lets hope we keep winning and getting in good form in the lead up to the finals - and hope the perth lose a couple of games they are expected to win so we can grab a top 4 spot!

link to fiba live and radio if any1 has it please

found the live scores
http://linky.com.au/vqg0e

Is that a bad joke or mistake? :) It's a link to this page.

Macdog, last nights result aside, if we win tonight, we come home as the 4th placed team. So its not all doom and gloom.

Live Stats http://linky.com.au/eo351

whens game start?

7:30AEST, so 8pm SA daylight savings time. I think. No daylight savings in Qld.

cheers

btw hawks beating tigs by 8 at half

Great... :s

anyone got radio link?

Has the game started yet?

7-19.

Early signs are ominous.

Down 19 to 7. Time out Adelaide. 16 and 2 run. For god's sake. Apparently Ballinger not looking good.

Townsville are shooting 100% - 7 of 7 from the field, 3 of 3 deep, 2 of two from the stripe.

^^^ or there abouts.

any1 got a radio link that works?

7-21

Got to NBL.com.

Click on "Live Match Audio" in the Headlines list.

Select Townsville Crocs.

Click "Listen Now" in the top right.

not working for me either....

anyone care to help?

Townsville 28

10/10 field goals (100%)
4/4 three pointers (100%)
4/6 free throws (67%)

Adelaide 16

good D again. Given up 26 points in 5 mins. F**KIN woefull sixers

18-30

Link works ok for me, using VLC in OS X. It took maybe 30 seconds to start though, and it jumps on and off occasionally.

This is rediculous, looks like the crocs are gonna live an die by the 3 point line. They did last game lucky for us tho they were missing them then!

radio isnt workign grr

why the hell hasnt schensch shot yet?

Live stats link anyone?

Don't worry, the radio sucks, you're not missing much. FIBA scoreline is pretty much accurate to the second.

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/1329/00/46/87/73LWXXAxy0lvo/

croc only have 1 rebound????

I'm running play by play from NBL.com.

Same with radio link. Both work - slighlty jumpy.

Crocs 32 - Adelaide 23 3:27 left in the first.

Cheers Jc

balls schesch qwill step with mahersy - i think are slow start will runover them go 6ers believe believe

You guys are right Balls is sick! 10 points first quarter keeping us respectable

Davidson hits the 3. We're down 8.

Brad Hill great start 7 points first quarter.

36-29

I've got FIBA ahead of the radio link too.

down y 1st quareter
i take that

Ok first quarter run down.

Down 7
Crocs hitting shots.
Rosell Ellis having his way inside and our perimeter D sucks ass

aleast we are still in it

HILLY thankyou!!!!

box scores have grizzard nil contribution
anybody confirm his game so far

True 7 points is get-able.

A plus from this Brad Hill has started well continuing his steady improvement, Balls seems to be fine. We are shooting well.

Defense is the only thing thats letting us down. Have we seen this game before? This is becoming an unacceptable theme in our games - defenselesness

hes got 1 rebound (defence)

Adelaide 33 - Crocs 43.

Crocs fire has gone out after 7 mins at around 100%. 20 secs into second qtr.

Crocs 48 - Sixers 35.

Cedar hits 2.

Crocs 48 - Adelaide 39.

8.24 left in the second.

Tovey to shoot 2.

Griz minutes?

6:56 but hes on at the moment

Crocs 51 - Adelaide 46 with 6.29 left in the second.

Grizz played 7.39, no shots from anywhere, 1 rebound on D.

CHeers, well thats resonable minutes but still why is everyone labelling him a dud so soon hes barely trained with the team FFS.

Hilly playing so well right now 6/8 FG and the 3s havent started yet. Glad you got him on your top Kobe? ;)

grizzard 2 points

05:56 51-46 5 52, Rod Grizzard, shot 2pt missed

well at least we have signs of life

opps my computer stuffed up it didnt show missed

05:15 53-48 5 52, Rod Grizzard, shot 2pt made

Even better

53-48, 5:05 left

OOHH,

Davo gives away a tech...

Crocs have shot like they're playing old skool N64 NBA Hang Time on team fire for the first.

Sixers are reeling them in. Hill has played massive minutes while our Ranga towers are starting to come to the party.

We're down 56 to 48 with 4:42 before the half.

griz is away - the boy can play - hell tough 2 game gig he'd just walked into

Just gave up 3 offensive rebounds in a row easy basket >:@

Still no defense being shown

THis is gonna be an ol' fashion shoot out hopefully the Crocs cool off an we can shoot past em'

Aaron Bruce turnover. Colour me suprised.

* slams head on desk *

Hopefully we can reel this one back in and the crocs cool down

What was the reason for the tech?

lead out to 12

what was tech for ? on who ?
did it hurt us
live scores are crap

lol @ Loco at least hes improving

Totally agree red and white it doesnt even say who on! It was Davo but i dunno why.

14 points, its getting away
need it pull it back or i can say this is almost over

Bruce has SO much ability. Hope he puts it together like in the Perth game - he really can be a leader if his head is together.

gizzard assist to bruce who hits the 3

B-Easy peopl ein bold in box scores are on court

Aaron hits 5 in a row. Lead at 12.

8, Corey Williams, foul unsportsmanlike

Unsporstman like foul? Bruce to shoot 2 more.

Agreed loco but experience takes time unfortuanately. Cmon Kobe games not even half way through we can believe until 3qtr time at least.

Williams is complaining Bruce hooked his arm. Bruce suckers him in and refs notice.

"Suckered in by a college kid 10 years his junior".

Williams VERY unhappy - 3 fouls.

Was talking about the tech in Play-by-play Kobe, only says technical foul not who its on.

Well this game is over coswe are not exactly known for playing good third quarters

down by 16!!!

Turnovers
Sixers 12 - Crocs 2!!!

18 and i must say i think its now over

As we're approaching half time, I' make the call now :p

Maher to explode in the second half, alla the Gong game. He'll get fed up and refuse to lose. Cameo's by Hill (who's had his best start of any game this season) and Davidson who looks dangerous tonight from outside.

Brett won't let them drop this one.

Turnovers and offensive rebounds are killing us!

When we finally get a stop or they cool off an miss a few theyre crashing boards harder an reaping the rewards!

I think ill join loco
*slams head on desk*

They are so frustrating . you can have off shooting nights but there is no excuse for such poor defense. If the spirit beat perth this could be put us out of the six

75 at half time to a coach who claims defensive intensity is a must. Hang your heads boys, this has been a disgraceful effort all weekend. Im in shock at all this

TOWNSVILLE 40 33
ADELAIDE 33 24

this is by quater are defense is getting better but still not ary where near good enough!

I still think we can win, no doubt unlikely but dont write us off yet theres still game in our legs!

12 turnovers. Ugh.

b easy agree - if they learnt from last night then why can we own the 3rd quarter
hell defensiveely theyty just got to lift
restrict crocs to 90 be winnable
what you think
boys gotta get this win

Luke and Balls must be getting raped inside 7 turnovers between them

*Punches computer screen*

Box scores for the Sixers:

Brett 13:53, 5 pts, 6 assists
Bruce 9:30, 5 pts, 2 assists.
Hill 16:34, 13 points, 4 boards, 1 assist.
Schenscher 17:57, 9 pts, 6 boards.
Cooper 3:28, 2 pts.
Davidson, 14:30, 6 pts, 2 assists.
Grizzard 14:08, 2 pts, 1 board, 1 assist.
Ballinger 17:11, 15 pts, 1 board.

We are screwed. *sigh*

/looks for 1998 premiership video to put on instead.

Only thing to do now is hope.

I have this mental picture in my head as the boys hit the change rooms.

*Boys turn to Brett*

"Cmon Brett, cant you do something? Please?! Please?! Please?!"

Brett: "Well ok just give me the ball"

what up with winny no minutes ??
maybe use cooper his inside presence might mix it up a bit -
i 'm big fan but dont think scotty got confidence in the big fella worth a punt

75-57. The best thing you can say about that is that it's palindromic.

winitana probably still injured....

Gay.

yah crap defense,

sounds like crap refs are syching them out,
but they should just play to the whistle.

Townsville have 51 points from the guard positions (including Williamson) and 36ers have 29 points from teh guards (not including Grizzard).

Same guards for Townsville have taken 16 foul shots to 36ers guards' Williams has taken 8, so their guards are probably getting to the basket better than ours, although Maher's assists may indicate otherwise.

For me, this is the same problem teh 36ers always have against teams that shoot the ball well from outside. As flagged above, we just are not effective defending the perimeter. That will not be a problem against streaky teams that run hot and cold but will get you killed against teams that shoot reliably from there - like the Breakers.

Let's hope the Crocodiles' shooters go cold in the second half and we can stop the turnovers. Go 6ers!

"Dear diary,

Was remembering old times today, and came across an old Hoops SA thread from the 08/09 season when we won the championship. Turns out we were down 75 to 57 against the Crocs at half time, with live audio dodgy as and the FIBA scores being temperamental.

Anyway, staged the greatest comeback in basketball memory to beat the Crocs and went on to destroy both the Tigers and the Dragons in the best final series the country has ever seen. Good times".

-sip-





Inventing reality is so much cooler that witnessing it in painful slow time.

Peter - very sound analysis.

Tigers have won against the Hawks, by 14

Wildcats mauling the Spirit by 23, 5 mins to go in the first half

From the stats i see, we are letting teams dictate to us how THEY want to play. We played in a low scoring ugly style game last night and got beaten with the winning score being 79, yet tonight the Crocs want to play uptempo, so we allow that and give up 75 in a half! Are you freakin serious, good thing basketball isnt that big in australia, because i could imagine the espn type analytical shows having a field day with the way the 36ers play. Oh but theyre good at home hahah this is pathetic

Points off turnovers - Crocs 31.

Sixers 1.

First play - Adelaide turnover.

Mahers hits 2. 77 - 61 Townsville.

off thread but winny - like his game but has be been liability to team structure
just cant get on court reminds me of ???
not on court no value
if brett goes down and he playing bigger minutes than we like its all over 2009

2-9 run

crocs living and dying by the three !

Maher rebounds, outlet to Bruce, back to Maher, Holmes hits 3.

Ellis misses. Williamson rebounds - misses. Holmes grabs the board. Schensher hits 2 off a Bruce assist. Timout Crocs.

We're down 77 to 66. 8:53 left in the third.

Loco are you serious about those TO-score stats?

Imagine if we had 10 more and them 15 less how different this game could be.

Not suprising Ballinger Fan, they played the same way against us at home, fortuanetaly that night they werent so hot from the floor.

B-Easy : That's what the Crocs radio guys stated, yeah.

here com sixers croc shooters come out cold - the pressure for them be enormouss - we behind so we just keep closing tighter game gets better for sixers
looking heaps better
feelin better believe

Fiba stats died, score anyone?

thanks

Crocs 81 to Sixers 68.

Bruce fouls Ellis and he hits both frees.

Maher misses 3.

Williams hits 2 more.

Luke hits 2.

Cedar misses 3.

Holmes boards.

Down 86 to 70.

83-70

Down 89 to 75 after Davidson hits another 3.

91-75

93 to 75 with 4:36 left before the final break.

Luke 19, Balls 15, Hill 13.

Williamson 19, Williams 18, Ellis 17.

Sixers call time out and want to talk it over with 4:07 left in the third, down 93 to 75.

They'll need a solid run before the break or it's over.

Look to Davidson to hit the 3 or Maher to come alive. Hill has been quiet since his big opening. Ranga towers starting to fire up. Crocs still playing well.

It seems the Crocs have a licence to shoot..... I wanna play for them!

The are shooting the $%#@ out of it, all it will take is 5-6 missed shots and 4-5 good scores and the Crocs will get nervous...

Keep feeding it to Schensch!

I know that Ninnis wants to play Brett in a SG role, but seriously he is the only PG that doesn't give the ball to the opposition! Bruce will be a great PG when he has more experience, but you can tell when he's having an off night and needs to be switched. Even Davidson's gone for 3 TO's so far!

rod for 3

i agree i still think cooper got to be in the mix why not go 3 bigs or even 5 guards
hell we got to win

Luke Schenscher, shot 2pt made

Daniel Egan, shot 3pt made

Rod Grizzard, shot 3pt made

Rod Grizzard, shot 3pt missed

Rosell Ellis, rebound defensive

Down 96 to 80.

only one word for this game "embarrassing"

Brad Hill, shot 3pt made off a Hill assist.

Kelvin Robertson hits 3.

Down 102 to 83.

we are in trouble -

Game over 19 down under 30secs left 3rd quarter.

^^^ sorry, should read "Grizz assist" to Hill.

Crocs up by 19.

Cooper subbed in.

Grizz turns it over with a very sloppy charge.

If didn't already drink, I'd take up the habit.

Game Summary
35/68 (51%) Field Goals 31/53 (58%)
15/32 (47%) 3 Points 8/18 (44%)
17/24 (71%) Free Throws 13/16 (81%)
28 Rebounds 28
21 Assists 17
6 Steals 1
0 Blocks 1
3 Turnovers 17
16 (14) Fouls (Fouls On) 17 (13)
32 Points in the Paint 38
8 Second Chance Points 7
9 Points off Turnovers 0


Only thing wrong with that is the turnovers

high scoring for one team anyway

Our point guards are getting lotsa turnovers against their half court trap which Townsville played all the first quarter, and intermittedly since.

That's probably more a team offence set up issue, rather than a lack of point guard skill.

Put a fork in it - 36ers are done!

Crocs look good to hit 140, Adelaide will barely get to the century

Paora Winitana, substitution in

Final scores 83 vs 105?

Crocs have had 16 more shots than Adelaide...and only 3 turnovers to our 17.

Put down the glasses, this one's over. 36ers now need to work on keeping Townsville to under 30 for at least one quarter of the game.

After this poor defensive display, the Blaze's outside shooters will be hoping they can turn it on like they did when they played us earlier this season. If they can, they'll fancy their chances of cracking it for another win.

So the 36ers have to get the defence working effectively in this last quarter.

the game was over after the first couple of minutes realistically.

puts a big dent in the season

no its the start of the 4th

Sleezy - 4th just started. Crocs have 107 already.

yeah just check in, that last game really hurt more now. Are we really this bad or are they just that on fire. You would think they would cool off, here is hoping for a 5 point quarter for them in the last :-)

i lost so paora is ok to play
good to see cooper on court
i am lost to work out whats ups
help me please - i think we now drop to 6th when 4th spot was their - this is a club low point

If they lose this one as well, they will not get a single applause from me on Wednesday night when the players are introduced. This is a disgusting effort and they need to earn my respect. Having said this, they have time to stage a miraculous comeback now. I won't be happy with anything less.

Is it just me or do teams often manage to come back from 15-20 down at halftime against us at the Dome (not always to win, but to make more of a game of it), yet we never seem to manage it away.

Playing the Sunshine Swing a few days after learing you've been signed by the Sixers and flying in from the States on zero notice to a completely new system is hardly an indication of your ability.

You're right - Grizz is nothing like Hodge, thank god.

Brad Hill playing well.

Crocs will reach 140.

EC - You never are.

Anon #222353
When Rod Grizzard said that he's "No Julius Hodge"

he really meant it... there is a huge difference in their talent.

hell Mark Tyndale is better than Grizzard.

That has to win award for dumbest post tonight! you cant be serious? THis is his second game with a new team he has had ONE i repeat ONE training session. It wouldve taken him until now to learn all the boys names let alone the system. Please if you are going to analyse the game please bring something of substance to the table.

skip - I feel ya man. You're right. Frustrating.

Tovey hits another 3. Timeout Adelaide.

Yep. Hurting.

Down 116 to 88 with 7:45 to go.

Painful times.

Cant we just stop now? This scoreline is getting worse and worse, thank god the NBL ladder doesnt run on %!

i agree get off grizzard case -
its so basd i cant even look at box scores no pretty

How does a backcourt with the experience of Maher and Davidson lose composure in a pressure situation?

I just don't get it. I understand Maher is limited by doctor's orders to approx 28 mins per game and Davidson is coming back from some serious injuries...but we're being humiliated.

Hill seems like he's played his part...but Bruce has been all over the place.

Commentators mocking us re: Hodge.

Ugh. Why am I still listening.

Commentators "They've given up".

120 - 93.

Townsville have had like 40 more scoring shots

Brad hill posibly the only positive from the weekend

Looking forward, the season split with teh Spirit looks really important. I think we have that don't we?

Rest of season (after tonight, when 36ers and Spirit both will have lost), Spirit play Taipans twice, Wildcats twice, Blaze and Breakers. We play Blaze, Wildcats, Breakers, Dragons, Hawks.

Based on tonight, I would expect neither team to finish better than 14-16 and there's a real risk either could finish 13-17. If that happens, the Hawks might still get up over both!

I put my faith in Grizzard fitting in better after this weekend. We did pretty poorly in the first 2 games when Hodge joined the team this season and did better as the team adapted to him. I think we'll see the same happen with Grizzard, except I think it's more a case of him adapting to the team, in this case.

Lost the first quarter by 7 - 40 to 33.
Lost the second quarter by 11 - 35 to 24.
Lost the third quarter by 4 - 30 to 26.
Losing the final quarter by 6 - 18 to 12.

Decimated.

Peter - No, Spirit have the Split.

Crocs 125 to Sixers 97.

2:56 left.

My girlfriend wants to know why I've been so grumpy all weekend.






(Note to self: dump girlfriend for lack of NBL knowledge).

Skip, I take it you are sitting and following this game with a bottle of champagne at hand and celebrating this appalling display.

Thanks for making me laugh Loco :-D


BTW - hadn't noticed before that we got beaten on the boards tonight as well - mainly in offensive rebounds. That surprised me. I'm guessing the Crocs' penetration led to inside defenders having to help out and not being able to box out the Townsville rebounders?

EC - c'mon dude. Skip loves the Sixers like the rest of us.

EC - Not at all, but regardless of the result of any game, you will always find something to be unhappy.

So you saying you wont be happy with anything less than a 25 point comeback realy means nothing to most people on here.

Peter (awesome name btw :p ) - you're welcome sir.

FINAL: Townsville 128 to Adelaide 105.

We're at 12 and 13 now.

Turnovers decimated us 19 to 8.

The tallest team in the league lost the boards 45 to 38.

Williamson 22 and Williams 20 destroyed us.

Adelaide's backcourst described as "worse than bad - woefull - thanks to Bruce especially letting them down".

This is the pits how low can you go.
How stupid I feel put money last week to win the title.
If I hear excuses not plans I will vomit

If you fine posters will excuse me, I'll be at the bottom of a bottle of scotch, searching through VHS tapes of happier days.

Where's that Canberra game where Rose goes ballistic? It's in here somewhere...

Skip, reading all the posts on this thread, it certainly appears to me that everyone is feeling the same way. Why say you are happy about something when its obvious that you can't possibly be happy about what is happening. I am a passionate supporter of the 36ers as much as anyone on this forum. I have missed 2 home games in 7 years and attended dozens interstate in that time. I would say its this passion that causes losses like this to hit harder.

EC - Can you point out where I said I was happy?

I've been a staunch Ninnis supporter from day one, but I'm starting to believe he's partly to blame (and I'm not quick to jump bandwagons). One reason being someone mentioned his constantly mixed signals to Holmes.

Scotty aside, I'm leaning towards players. Ninnis didn't score 5 in a quarter against the Taipans. Scotty didn't turn the ball over 19 times against the Crocs - they're not coaching decisions - they're skill errors.

The rotations may be partially to blame, but the Sixers are letting themselves down.

To be fair, it's been an incredibly trying 2 weeks, emotionally and mentallt for them. Our stability has been all over the place. Thankfully, we managed to defenc our house twice before this weekend's "Sunshine Swing Massacre".

We'll make the finals. Just remains to be seen which Sixers outfit turns up.

^^^ excuse my grammar. I wasn't kidding re: scotch!

Skip you commented that I am never happy. To make a comment like that I assumed you must be.

EC, have you forgotten to take your medication ?

Mal should try and hit up Beyond Blue for our next sponsor. The Adelaide Beyond Blue 36ers, cause one day you're so high, then so low, it's exhausting.

Woefull!

I think Port just off loaded the choker tag.

0/2 is not acceptable IMO

It's been an horrendous road trip. Completely. No doubt.

So we re-focus, get our collective asses in gear and get back in the game.

We'll make the finals. Time to get our sh*t together as a team - and we will.

Come on where are the majority of people that kept saying this team is better without Hodge? :P What an absolute joke that was!

This weekend has been a pathetic effort! Its time for Ninnis to make some changes to the team! Its time for Bruce the hero to hit the bench and the beloved Holmes also!

I know you all love Mal but thanks Mal for not paying Hodge on time and now we have to put up with us losing by 23 to Towsnville and 9 to Cairns who have the shitest team in the league.

Ninnis and assistant coaches we now have 5 more games for you guys to save your selves from looking like a joke!

Okay my comments last night were a bit harsh due to being drunk and mad at another terrible loss. However, most of the things I said still apply but just not as rudely :P

We are on the verge of having a terrible season with a very talented team.

I still think we have the ability to make a run at the finals but the defensive problems we have had all season need to be fixed!

Also the rotations need to be fixed. We can't continue to sub players in and out like a Ice Hockey game! We can't try to have 10 players have lots of minutes to make everyone happy. Need to focus on just 8 with the 9th player getting a few minutes if required. If this means Winitana gets no minutes then so be it.

Finally Grizzard must be called upon to produce! We don't need another passenger! Run plays for him and post him up.

Is the the Slump before the Finals Unbeaten Run...God freaking hope so!

Woeful effort but I cant wonder that this is the same pattern all year. I feel players should not be left to relax before or during the game, they need to be switched onn mentally at least 2 hours out with intensity lifting in the last hour. Defensive problems all year and players not responding. Tiredness not a factor because if you cant run out 2 games in a row you should be in this league .
This Adelaide historical away problem is above the shoulders, nothing to do with coaching staff who are fantastic, this is an adelaide culture that has 5 games to change. If I was scott I would not give these boys one minute of relaxation until after the season to keep them focused.
If this side could play to its potential above the shoulders with urgency and professionalism then it is a top 3 side.
You have to give to Hodge he may not have trained but he was always ready mentally to play because of the US culture. He scored home and away

turnovers stats not good enough, our points need to be more aggressive at the player defending them waty too closely

Agree Stuart
This team has all the tools to be a very good team possibly a great one. For mine it is all in the application.

The coach can't make or miss shots, create turnovers or crash the boards. It is up to the players come game time to do their job.

FWIW, here's something from a Crocs fan (mattic, from OzHoops) who was at the game:

When bruce made a soft foul early on, I noticed Maher give him a serve. It was a decent serve, too, so I suspect that bruce's head hadn't been right at training and warm-ups, too. When Schenscher did get the ball in any space at all, he usually scored. But it seemed that getting to him as he was gets the ball really upsets his rhythm.

It was a strange old game, really. The 36ers scored plenty of points, despite my feeling that the Crocs defence was good for most of the match. They scored 30 in the first quarter, so something was going right. I think it was just a case of the Crocs getting everything right on the night and learning from what happened to them the last time they played in Adelaide.

Isaac, from mattic's comments, do you think it was a one off game that Townsville played particularly well and that there is still hope for the 36ers to salvage the rest of the season? Should it be put down to bad luck on the night and focus on what's left? If that's the case atleast its promising however the previous night's loss to a team of inferior quality really puts a spanner in the works. Cairns don't even have their head coach and are playing under assistants. From a real high before the Cairns game sitting in 4th position with the attractiveness of a home playoff game, 2 games later have become a battle to even make the playoffs. That would be a real shame for the supporters and the club itself. No doubt this season has cost the club a fortune in changes in imports and also injuries yet possibly not making playoffs. I personally think the club has not recruited well this season. Tyndale straight out of college was a huge mistake when an import is supposed to dominate. Potsie must have had rocks in his head to give him a no cut contract (although blame has to rest on others as well for not picking it up). Bruce has not proven to be the choice pick up as expected. His season has been very ordinary. Winitana whilst exciting after watching him in the pre season, does not have a record of being a stand out player so I don't know what the 36ers thought they were getting. Davidson, whilst having a few good games this season, has not really had much impact. He started this season with injury and as a result spent much of the time sidelined. Jacob Holmes was a better player 3 years ago before he left Adelaide and needs to add more to the scoring. The only real positives have been Ballinger (we already had him), Schenscher and Hill has made a remarkable improvement. Brett Maher has been on the decline as far as his input to the game goes but still remains as a remarkable leader and disciplinarian on the floor. Cooper has been a waste of a bench seat. He always looks to me when he goes on court as being shackled.

From mattic and DJRod, I got the impression that Adelaide recovered from the opening Crocs blitz and then were fended off whenever they made a run. Like I said, the Crocs did this against NZ in Auckland as well.

I think Adelaide recruited well. Maher has been as expected, Bruce has been decent considering he's a rookie in the NBL, Hill has really improved, Tyndale was just a bit haphazard in the end but had his moments, Winitana has been fine for a 10th man, and Schenscher was a big pick-up, and Holmes is obviously just struggling a bit with variations to his role. Hard to judge Cooper and Davidson on brief and inconsistent minutes.

Before Bruce became an option, it appeared that the option was to start Davidson and back him up with Kersten (and a bit of Maher, I guess). Based on the previous years from both, the might've seemed feasible but injuries and more have to make you wonder how that would've gone. Makes me think they recruited well in Bruce.

I reckon start Grizzard at SF, play him bulk minutes and let him go to town.

maybe hodges idea of play hard and train when feeeling in the mood is worth exploring
nobody cant fault hodges on court contribution and isnt that weres it matter
getting the damm "W"
thats all thats matter heck they can train in disneyland just win boys win