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Anonymous
Last year

#39752

Boomers v USA game thread

Hi guys. I understand this game will be on at a reasonable hour - anyone know if channel 7 will broadcast it in full? If not, will it be available live on the free version of the app or only premium? To date I've just been watching replays on the free app but would like to catch this one live.

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mystro
Last year
09:12 10 Aug 16

Reply #594178

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers by 15


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Andy
Last year
09:35 10 Aug 16

Reply #594182

re: Boomers v USA game thread

No doubt 7 will show the game in full.


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Andy
Last year
09:36 10 Aug 16

Reply #594183

re: Boomers v USA game thread

USA by 36.


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Baller#3
Last year
09:53 10 Aug 16

Reply #594185

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I'm gonna say within 5 at half time, but they run away and win by 20. We can dream all we want, but it's not going to happen unless you play like crap and we play our best game ever.


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Ricky
Last year
10:03 10 Aug 16

Reply #594186

re: Boomers v USA game thread

U.S. will have too much pride in this game, will want to smash and make a statement. If Lemanis is smart, he'll rest Bogey and others well with limited minutes.


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LV
Last year
10:07 10 Aug 16

Reply #594187

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Australia's last game against Venezuela will more than likely be a dead rubber for both teams, so I think Lemanis will rest Bogut, and maybe others for that game.

But it's too early in the tournament to rest players. Sure, if US is up by 20 at 3 quarter time then sit our starters for the last quarter, but only if it gets to that point.

USA have had an easy run so far with cruisy wins over teams who have no chance of progressing through. Let's hope the Boomers get the early jump on them and make it a competitive match.


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skull
Last year
10:14 10 Aug 16

Reply #594189

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The ball will need to stay in Dellys hands for most of the game.
Mills looks too risky under the pump, thats where USA will get momentum,off turnovers.
Mills job - running off screens for catch and shoot with Delly running the offence.

Lets roll the dice...


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Anonymous
Last year
10:18 10 Aug 16

Reply #594190

re: Boomers v USA game thread

This game means squat. Your only going beat them once, this isnt the time to play balls out and risk injury. 12 guys play, even minutes across the board. Save it for another day.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:21 10 Aug 16

Reply #594191

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Would expect USA to win by 15+. I wouldn't necessarily rest starters but would certainly be spreading the minutes across all 12 players


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Isaac
Last year
10:48 10 Aug 16

Reply #594195

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Getting minutes into Motum, Goulding, etc can only help them if they're required against another intimidating opponent down the track.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:12 10 Aug 16

Reply #594202

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers can play their best just can't see it ever being enough. Don't worry about the tactics, just get through unscathed injury wise and make that push for silver. Boomers by 20+ and that's just the way it's going to be against a USA team keen to destroy the upstart hyped up boomers.


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Iggle Piggle
Last year
11:45 10 Aug 16

Reply #594211

re: Boomers v USA game thread

What time is the game?


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Luuuc
Last year
11:48 10 Aug 16

Reply #594213

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Tomorrow morning

6:00am WA
7:30am SA/NT
8:00am East


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RMQ
Last year
12:32 10 Aug 16

Reply #594223

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Keys to victory for the boomers will be to limit turnovers and defensive rebounds by the US.

To have a chance against the the US you need to completely eliminate these two things.

The US is at their best in free flowing transition, where their natural god given talent does all the work.

Boomers will need to slow the game down and grind it out to have any chance.

Looking forward to seeing this game regardless.

Hopefully we play serious until a blowout is unreachable then let Goulding loose and hope he talks smack to someone like Heal did which will translate to lots of media coverage.


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Luuuc
Last year
12:35 10 Aug 16

Reply #594224

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Do you mean eliminate offensive rebounds? Because eliminating defensive ones is a big ask against the weakest of opponents let alone the US.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:49 10 Aug 16

Reply #594226

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Anyone know where to pick up a Boomers jersey?


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XY
Last year
13:27 10 Aug 16

Reply #594231

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Luuuc, the way to eliminate defensive rebounds is not to grab all of the offensive ones, but simply just not to miss.

That really is the only effective strategy against the US, limit their opportunities by reducing the number of cheap points they get from steals, and turnovers and by shooting a very high percentage.


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_Strungout_
Last year
13:31 10 Aug 16

Reply #594233

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I like the strategy of not missing. I think it will work.


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AngusH
Last year
13:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594235

re: Boomers v USA game thread

USA by 25+.


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XY
Last year
13:45 10 Aug 16

Reply #594240

re: Boomers v USA game thread

_Strungout_, I have always thought teams should try it a bit more.


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Zodiac
Last year
13:47 10 Aug 16

Reply #594241

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I think we need to tank by intentionally missing roughly 50% (give or take) of our shots.


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Luuuc
Last year
13:49 10 Aug 16

Reply #594242

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Ok, I've given it a lot of though. Pretty radical stuff, but you guys just might be onto something.
In case it happens to prove effective, maybe we keep that one up our sleeves until the elimination games.


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ME
Last year
13:52 10 Aug 16

Reply #594246

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I think the Boomers should try to gbet their big men in foul trouble early and then exploit it when they're out.


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RMQ
Last year
13:59 10 Aug 16

Reply #594250

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Sorry I meant not liking the US grab their defensive rebounds while we are in offence.


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MACDUB
Last year
14:06 10 Aug 16

Reply #594252

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Hack a Jordan?

Or are FIBA rules more disadvantageous with regard to intentional fouling to prevent what happens in the NBA?

Otherwise, get Martin out there and Hack a Jordan.

If you can get 20 FT's from Jordan from 2 players (Goulding and Martin), he will only make 10 or 11.

10/11 points from 20 trips down the Court:

That's like shooting 5/20 from the field

;)


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Zodiac
Last year
14:08 10 Aug 16

Reply #594254

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Exactly you tank at the quarter final stage no one is going to see that coming and I'm willing to bet FIBA wouldn't try and investigate us afterwards too.


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paul
Last year
14:18 10 Aug 16

Reply #594256

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Genius.


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BigAds
Last year
14:26 10 Aug 16

Reply #594262

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Singlets can be purchased at Sportcentre on Port Rd, Hindmarsh (if residing in Adelaide)


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rjd
Last year
15:48 10 Aug 16

Reply #594273

re: Boomers v USA game thread

USA have so far only faced the weakest two teams in the group, with only one decent opponent in practice games (Argentina). It might be a good time to upset USA. Although I'd prefer if they cruised in pool games and were finally tested (and hopefully upset) when the pressure was on in an elimination game.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:02 10 Aug 16

Reply #594279

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Cheers BigAds


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Anonymous
Last year
17:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594285

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Does anyone have an idea which channel the game will be on.

Ta


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skull
Last year
18:12 10 Aug 16

Reply #594289

re: Boomers v USA game thread

^^FFS


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Anonymous
Last year
18:30 10 Aug 16

Reply #594291

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Thompson, Derozan and durant will just shoot over the top of our guards with ease.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:48 10 Aug 16

Reply #594293

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Can find times here

http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/39752-boomers-v-usa-game-thread/#p594285


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Anonymous
Last year
20:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594299

re: Boomers v USA game thread

7two


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Luuuc
Last year
21:25 10 Aug 16

Reply #594307

re: Boomers v USA game thread

!!!



@7Olympics

CHANNEL CHANGE: Please note, Men's #Basketball #AUS v #USA will be shown on SEVEN at 8am. Go @BasketballAus Boomers!



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paul
Last year
21:27 10 Aug 16

Reply #594308

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Noice. Now just need the boys to hoop it up a bit.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:39 10 Aug 16

Reply #594315

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Go all in. We might not get a chance to face them again. Especially if we face Spain next round.


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Bear
Last year
07:21 11 Aug 16

Reply #594323

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I find it amazing how different these two teams are, I mean look at the warm ups for example.

Australia do their warm up routine according to their usual lines and structure, waiting their turn and run it like a mini practice, while Team USA hang around looking cool, throw up casual shots and just do their own individual thing, while looking cool!

Can't wait for this to get rolling...


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Luuuc
Last year
07:27 11 Aug 16

Reply #594324

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers have clearly focussed all their preparation into the game plan, and none into singing in tune.
Good sign that they're taking it seriously.


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Bear
Last year
07:33 11 Aug 16

Reply #594325

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We get first possession, duly hesitate and turn it over resulting in a 3 pointer at the other end, oh dear, hope the standard isn't set already!


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Bear
Last year
07:39 11 Aug 16

Reply #594326

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Yeah boys, way to shake it off and stick it to them, great start by the Boomers...


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Luuuc
Last year
07:42 11 Aug 16

Reply #594327

re: Boomers v USA game thread

This quarter has been fun :)


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Train
Last year
07:43 11 Aug 16

Reply #594328

re: Boomers v USA game thread

This Boomers team is fun to watch !


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rjd
Last year
07:50 11 Aug 16

Reply #594329

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Great start. Boomers still have to eliminate their O boards and play some perimeter D.


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Luuuc
Last year
07:50 11 Aug 16

Reply #594330

re: Boomers v USA game thread

As expected, it gets fugly fast once we go to our bench.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:55 11 Aug 16

Reply #594331

re: Boomers v USA game thread

10 aussies hit the floor in the 1st


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Mick
Last year
07:55 11 Aug 16

Reply #594332

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The minutes should be staggered so Joe Ingles becomes our PG when Delly sits, then Delly can come back in for Ingles, or vice versa. Lisch just can't get it done at this level.


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Luuuc
Last year
08:03 11 Aug 16

Reply #594333

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Weak foul, ref :/


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Luuuc
Last year
08:04 11 Aug 16

Reply #594334

re: Boomers v USA game thread

And another. Baynes. That looked soft :/


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rjd
Last year
08:06 11 Aug 16

Reply #594335

re: Boomers v USA game thread

This refereeing.... ffs.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:06 11 Aug 16

Reply #594336

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers are legit


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Luuuc
Last year
08:08 11 Aug 16

Reply #594337

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Bairstow holding his own today!


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Bear
Last year
08:09 11 Aug 16

Reply #594338

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Exciting stuff, loving the play, not so much some of the officiating but it is what it is, Go Aussies...


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D4444
Last year
08:10 11 Aug 16

Reply #594339

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Bairstow doing surprisingly well.

How did Goulding miss that layup?


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Anonymous
Last year
08:14 11 Aug 16

Reply #594340

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Nice steal from Martin


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Mick
Last year
08:16 11 Aug 16

Reply #594341

re: Boomers v USA game thread

They just have too much shooting and it's going to reach critical mass at some point. We don't have the length to run out to shooters properly. There'll be a point soon where they just hit 3 or 4 in a row.

We are outsmarting them though so far with vet savvy. Great to watch.


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Luuuc
Last year
08:18 11 Aug 16

Reply #594342

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Leading at half time 54-49

That's a win for mine.
I just hope we don't get tempted to run the starters for excessive minutes.

Delly 9 assists already. Mills connecting. This is great :)


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fstos
Last year
08:18 11 Aug 16

Reply #594343

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Been struggling to get streams to watch in China but whata day to get a good one.

Sensational stuff.


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rjd
Last year
08:20 11 Aug 16

Reply #594344

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Entertaining stuff. USA look worried. Hopefully we keep up the level of D from the 2nd.


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D4444
Last year
08:21 11 Aug 16

Reply #594346

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I'll admit to being a doubter about this Boomers team but they are rapidly turning me into a believer. What a great first half. It's going to be a challenge to maintain the high shooting percentage while keeping the USA from connecting with their shots.

Not a lot of rebounding in this game. Bogut without a single board?


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Anonymous
Last year
08:23 11 Aug 16

Reply #594347

re: Boomers v USA game thread

All 12 players hit the court in the 1st half. :)


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Bear
Last year
08:24 11 Aug 16

Reply #594348

re: Boomers v USA game thread

It's kind of like watching a Spurs v Cavs game, no prizes for guessing who is who...


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Anonymous
Last year
08:26 11 Aug 16

Reply #594349

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Hopefully fouls won't bite us in the behind at the end.

Andersen and Bairstow both doing well backing up B Double. Keep Motum off!


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KET
Last year
08:28 11 Aug 16

Reply #594350

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Time for the premiership quarter


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rjd
Last year
08:31 11 Aug 16

Reply #594351

re: Boomers v USA game thread

At the half, Delly with 9 assists and a more human-like 3 turnovers.


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Bear
Last year
08:32 11 Aug 16

Reply #594352

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Nothing matter from here other than us having a crack and the result showing that we can run with them, if we get them great, but as long as we don't capitulate we can hold our heads high...


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Luuuc
Last year
08:34 11 Aug 16

Reply #594353

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Fouls are already killing us. We can't play hard D :/


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fstos
Last year
08:35 11 Aug 16

Reply #594354

re: Boomers v USA game thread

3 good looks for the Boomers to start the third but all missed.


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D4444
Last year
08:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594355

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That shooing percentage is starting to even up & with the USA talking 46 shots to the Boomers 28 in the first half, it's not going to take much of a shift to blow the Boomers out of this.


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Bear
Last year
08:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594356

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Well, that may be the case, but Baynes needed to stuff that ally-oop and not allow the USA to do what they have done so far, we can set the tone early and he is floundering at the moment, not good!


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Mick
Last year
08:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594357

re: Boomers v USA game thread

This is the situation I want Brad Newley for. Broekhoff's shot is not dropping, and he doesn't really offer anything else, so you give Newley a run.

USA finally converting our lazy turnovers into points.

Need to stem those turnovers.


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fstos
Last year
08:37 11 Aug 16

Reply #594358

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Good time out. Storm coming.


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Mick
Last year
08:40 11 Aug 16

Reply #594359

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boogie on 4 fouls.


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Luuuc
Last year
08:45 11 Aug 16

Reply #594360

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Is this not silly?
Surely Bogut should not still be out there


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Luuuc
Last year
08:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594361

re: Boomers v USA game thread

And right when I say that
:/

He'd better be ok


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Mick
Last year
08:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594362

re: Boomers v USA game thread

They should just use NBA refs. Whatever they give up in impartiality or not knowing FIBA rules will be moot compared with the consistency they will call the game. No one else is professional enough.


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fstos
Last year
08:48 11 Aug 16

Reply #594363

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Leave Bogut on ice for the rest of the game.


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Mick
Last year
08:49 11 Aug 16

Reply #594364

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boogie and Jordan both on four fouls. We need to exploit this...


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Bear
Last year
08:49 11 Aug 16

Reply #594365

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Forget the ref's, if we are going to push them we need to get some boards, this game will come down to who can control the rebounds because Team USA are just getting too many second chances to score.


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Luuuc
Last year
08:54 11 Aug 16

Reply #594366

re: Boomers v USA game thread

DA been huge this tournament


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rjd
Last year
08:56 11 Aug 16

Reply #594367

re: Boomers v USA game thread

How is that a foul on the shot?


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Mick
Last year
08:57 11 Aug 16

Reply #594368

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Offensive zero guys like Bairstow need to pretend to be looking to shoot or drive when they catch on the perimeter. A couple of plays there that would be the difference between the defense rotating over to a shooter or not.

Also Ingles needs to actually be looking to shoot or drive.


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rjd
Last year
08:58 11 Aug 16

Reply #594369

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Andersen and Baynes need to step up to cover Bogut's presence.


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Bear
Last year
08:59 11 Aug 16

Reply #594370

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I hear ya Mick, it's not like they can't do it, but sometimes they seem intimidated don't they.

Regardless, if we can stay with them we can make this interesting!


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Mick
Last year
08:59 11 Aug 16

Reply #594371

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The difference is going to come down to the long rang shooting. Melo has as many threes as we have as a team.

Ryan Broekhoff never arrived in Rio.


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rjd
Last year
09:00 11 Aug 16

Reply #594372

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We might soon learn to close out on Anthony.


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Mick
Last year
09:02 11 Aug 16

Reply #594373

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We're just throwing up junk now. Definite signs of fatigue.


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Luuuc
Last year
09:04 11 Aug 16

Reply #594374

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Looking really tired but still playing hard & smart out there


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Freethrows
Last year
09:04 11 Aug 16

Reply #594375

re: Boomers v USA game thread

scores?


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D4444
Last year
09:07 11 Aug 16

Reply #594376

re: Boomers v USA game thread

80-88 with 3 minutes left


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Bear
Last year
09:07 11 Aug 16

Reply #594377

re: Boomers v USA game thread

GET A STOP!


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Bear
Last year
09:07 11 Aug 16

Reply #594378

re: Boomers v USA game thread

GET A STOP!


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Naph
Last year
09:09 11 Aug 16

Reply #594379

re: Boomers v USA game thread

USA 90 - 82 Australia


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Mick
Last year
09:09 11 Aug 16

Reply #594380

re: Boomers v USA game thread

At the end of the day it just came down to wing depth / length for us. We just need bigger mobile guys rotating onto their shooters, and on the offensive end we need taller guys spotting up so we can get shots off against their length.

Great effort. Cut down those turnovers next time and we'll be around the mark come the final buzzer.


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D4444
Last year
09:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594381

re: Boomers v USA game thread

88-93 into the last minute


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Mick
Last year
09:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594382

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I love this lineup they're closing with:

Delly
Mills
Broekhoff
Ingles
Bogut

Let's see it more often.


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BigAds
Last year
09:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594383

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Kyrie with, his now trademark, death dagger!


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Bear
Last year
09:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594384

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Offensive boards USA 21 - AUS 7, says something!


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Bear
Last year
09:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594385

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Offensive boards USA 21 - AUS 7, says something!


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Joshuapending
Last year
09:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594386

re: Boomers v USA game thread

What happened to Andrew?


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Bear
Last year
09:16 11 Aug 16

Reply #594387

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Back on with 24 seconds to go.

Look, a six point game in the final 20 or so seconds and we have the ball, probably (obviously) a forgone conclusion but I am pretty impressed with the boomers today!


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Mick
Last year
09:17 11 Aug 16

Reply #594388

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We need to be running better inbounds plays. Lots of junk going up after timeouts.


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Luuuc
Last year
09:17 11 Aug 16

Reply #594389

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Very pleased with this one, yeah.


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rjd
Last year
09:20 11 Aug 16

Reply #594390

re: Boomers v USA game thread

For next time, don't let USA grab so many O boards, close out on the hot shooter, and it'd be much closer.


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D4444
Last year
09:23 11 Aug 16

Reply #594391

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Not a bad game but lost composure a bit at the end with some really poor shot choices, exemplified by that attempt from Mills with about 20 seconds remaining.


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Mick
Last year
09:25 11 Aug 16

Reply #594392

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"Tom Thibodeau will be watching this Australia tape twice overnight."

-Fran Fraschilla on twitter.


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Bear
Last year
09:25 11 Aug 16

Reply #594393

re: Boomers v USA game thread

A ten point loss and we went 50% while they went 39% from the field, so for me it was our depth and lack of boards that killed us.

I think we can take a fair bit from that game, the fact that Team USA know we can go with them could be something for next time, if we can get to play them again.

We need to build on this now, not drop a stupid loss to anyone until the medal rounds anyway...

#Bleedgreenandgoldforever


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fstos
Last year
09:27 11 Aug 16

Reply #594394

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Strong showing and looks like no injuries so great all round. Those two missed easy chippies in a row from Mills and Baynes at the start of the 4th hurt a lot in context.


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Mick
Last year
09:29 11 Aug 16

Reply #594395

re: Boomers v USA game thread

@D444

The after timeout plays weren't great, and then Mills and Delly were out of juice late.

We need to find ways to use Jingles more as a ballhandler early to give those two guys rest so they can close out late from deep. Unfortunately the bench guys aren't up to the job as primary ballhandler, so it has to be Joe Ingles.

Would you even bring Ingles off the bench to try to kickstart Broekhoff. It gives Ingles a chance to be The Man a bit more like Ginobili does with the Spurs or Iggy does with Golden State, gives our starting backcourt better rest without giving up too much playmaking, and gives Broekhoff a chance to heat up.

It's not terribly broken so you'd be cautious to meddle with it, but it's better to be proactive about these things.


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rjd
Last year
09:29 11 Aug 16

Reply #594396

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The main vets with good performances: Delly with another amazing game, a double-double with 11pts, 11asts, Mills with an impressive shooting 30 points, Bogut with 15 points on 7/9 shooting and his usual D, and Andersen's 13 points were huge.

Hopefully the bench can gain some shooting confidence in the next two games.

All this talk about our young guys in 2020, it shows that the vet experience will remain so valuable in the international game.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:31 11 Aug 16

Reply #594397

re: Boomers v USA game thread

More people streamed and watched that game than the Melbourne cup .... According to Chanel 7 info...... Yet basketball of Anykind can't get a gig on main stream TV..... Says a lot doesn't it


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Ricey
Last year
09:32 11 Aug 16

Reply #594398

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Some obnoxious know it all American in my hostel wanted to talk about how college players could destroy the worlds teams. He's very very quiet now


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AngusH
Last year
09:32 11 Aug 16

Reply #594399

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Super impressive performance, and a lot of fight. Melo is just a monster at this level.


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ME
Last year
09:39 11 Aug 16

Reply #594400

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Where are the haters though? I thought we were meant to be blown out by 40? Where's that Anonymous loud mouth we all know and love? I want to hear how Delly and his 11 assists tonight sucked and how we can't hang with the USA. The Boomers were a few minutes away from the greatest upset of all time.


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Naph
Last year
09:43 11 Aug 16

Reply #594401

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Disclaimer: I couldn't watch the game, this is just going from the box score.

Rebounds: 47-40 USA
Turnovers: 9-16 (Australia with more)
Even FTA's.

USA made 17 of 39 threes. Which means they only made 17 of 48 shots from 2 (.354). That's great interior D, and against the USA you'd definitely be happy with them settling for jumpers. Of course you'd rather not let Melo get 15 shots up from deep when he's shooting like that.

Delly with a team high 7 boards (nobody else had more than 4)

Looks like nobody other than Melo and Irving showed up for the USA today. Was Durant just missing, or did we actually find a way to play good D?


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Anonymous
Last year
09:51 11 Aug 16

Reply #594402

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Personally the mere fact all 12 players hit the court with 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter gives perspective around how the Boomers approached this game. Against Serbia Motum, Martin and Goulding all registered DNP's but they play against USA!!!

Great job though guys.


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Bear
Last year
09:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594403

re: Boomers v USA game thread

@Naph, I watched it and we were good, we took it up to them physically and played them well generally, however it is hard to defend everything and those three balls did count in the end.

The rebound tally was more significant than the statistics show IMHO.

Towards the end we had some tired boys on court, so if we can get a little more support from the bench in crucial areas it will help us no end...


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Luuuc
Last year
09:58 11 Aug 16

Reply #594404

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Yeah, the lack of depth really hurt down the stretch with both foul trouble and fatigue really shifting the odds of being able to compete at both ends.


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Bear
Last year
10:01 11 Aug 16

Reply #594405

re: Boomers v USA game thread

@Anon #402, you have a good point there, I am sure that Lemanis wanted to win, but it looks like he kept a little of that powder dry in case we gat to play them again too.

A tough balancing act towards the end of that game because we were close enough to have a go at them, but probably never going to actually get over them, so well done to the coaching staff of the boomers!


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Naph
Last year
10:02 11 Aug 16

Reply #594406

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Thanks Bear, good to hear.

Anyone had any success watching replays on the Channel 7 App? I'm reading lots of horror stories on Whirlpool and the like.


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ME
Last year
10:04 11 Aug 16

Reply #594407

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"A tough balancing act towards the end of that game because we were close enough to have a go at them, but probably never going to actually get over them, so well done to the coaching staff of the boomers!"

Oh, I don't know about not getting over them. I think we were a few soft calls away from the win personally.


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Bear
Last year
10:07 11 Aug 16

Reply #594408

re: Boomers v USA game thread

@ME, I think a ten point win slightly flatters the USA too, but I did say 'probably'...


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Anonymous
Last year
10:08 11 Aug 16

Reply #594409

re: Boomers v USA game thread

How heartbreaking would it be if Australia lost in the quarter finals after such a great start to the tournament.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:10 11 Aug 16

Reply #594410

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That ^ is my worry too.
Luckily the USA game came in the middle of the round robin so we've got some time to freshen up before the crossovers begin.
But this great performance means nothing if we crap out in our quarter final


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Isaac
Last year
10:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594411

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Great performance by the Boomers. They did not look fussed about matching up against the USA at all - I think that's what a couple of years of NBA experience for some of our guys can do.

Melo got them over the line while most of the rest looked quite underdone. DAJ had his moments, but I don't think he and Cousins are a great combination to anchor a team. A hothead plus a braun-over-brain type.

Bogut and Andersen had some excellent patches, as did Mills and Dellavedova.

Usual risk of coming out flat in the next two games though, having "played their final" in this one.

All in all, three very good games so far in the tournament.


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rjd
Last year
10:21 11 Aug 16

Reply #594412

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Media running a story on Paul George's post-game comments labelling the Boomers "dirty":

"Speaking after the Dream Team's 98-88 win at the Carioca Arena, George attacked the character of the Australian team.
"We knew we was (sic) going to get their best," he said.
“It was an adjustment for us. This game kind of got out of hand with the chippy, physical play.
“We knew that going in, this team has a knack for being a little dirty.”


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rjd
Last year
10:24 11 Aug 16

Reply #594414

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Haha, Longley's response:

-- Australia's NBA legend Luc Longley, now on the Boomers coaching staff, said in response:

"Tell em, that’s international basketball.’’


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RMQ
Last year
10:26 11 Aug 16

Reply #594415

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Longley and Durant smack talking was awesome, purely because Longley has three rings and Durant has none.


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rjd
Last year
10:27 11 Aug 16

Reply #594416

re: Boomers v USA game thread

From ESPN US:

"According to the pre-game rumbles in circulation in the media tribune, Australia showed up with plans to hold back some against Team USA ... in the hope that it'll have a second shot to play the United States with a medal on the line next week."


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paul
Last year
10:28 11 Aug 16

Reply #594417

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The difference was we were -20 in the possession game. That was it. Now we are unlikely to beat the US in that area, especially with our aggressive style, but if we meet them again a -10 would give us a real chance. Some turnovers were just our non-NBA guys getting used to how quickly the US can get into the passing lanes, which can be stamped out if there is a next time.

Per possession we were clearly the better team, our offence is working a treat (thanks New Zealand!) and our D is proactive, aggressive but smart. Lemanis has really pulled together a good program over four years.

Loved the way Lemanis coached in the first half, running subs through with our staters, and I thought the bench guys did their job. Obviously Andersen was excellent, but really impressed with Goulding and Bairstow to, just did what the team needed them to do. We need Broekhoff and Lisch hitting threes, that's what they’re there for - 3 and D.

In the second half Lemanis didn’t give our starters enough short blows and they ran out of steam to win it. If there’s a next time he’s got to back those bench guys to come on for a few mins and do what they did early on.

Overall though another superb performance, let’s hope we can reproduce this level of play in the knockout rounds. It will be tough against some great teams, but with Bogut somehow jumping out of his skin we have the experience and cohesion to match anyone (even the US it now seems), particularly if Lisch and Broekhoff start hitting.


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rjd
Last year
10:28 11 Aug 16

Reply #594418

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"One team source went as far as telling ESPN.com that Australia coach Andrej Lemanis intended to limit his starters' minutes in the second half -- while using only half of his playbook -- so as not to give away too much in this group play encounter.

Yet Lemanis had to detour from the Gregg Popovich-style subterfuge route as the evening wore on.

Because his team played so well."


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Anonymous
Last year
10:30 11 Aug 16

Reply #594419

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Seriously if we don't win at least silver I'll be disappointed now.


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KET
Last year
10:33 11 Aug 16

Reply #594420

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Australia played out of their skins in the first half. Andersen was knocking down toughest of shots, Bogut getting every floater, Patty was ka-ching from three and Delly serving up freakish assists.

For all our hard work, it's just too easy for Team USA, in all of their boring isolationist plays, to just have a star knock down shots left right and centre.

Australia needs to improve on turnovers and rebounding let us down on occasion giving them multiple opportunities - you just can't do either of those against the US. You really need to go near perfect. To our credit, shooting at 68% is something we're unlikely to repeat but it's a bloody good way to try and be perfect.


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KET
Last year
10:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594423

re: Boomers v USA game thread

What gives me confidence is the seeming consistency of the Boomers so far. Usually we'd fight hard and play well one game then play a very average and generally miserable game. However, out of 3 games against 3 quality opposition, we've played 3 very strong and competent games. This holds us in good stead against the uncertainty we face in the next round against teams which are pretty similar to Australia talent wise, whether it be Lithuania, Brazil, Argentina, Serbia or Spain


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Anonymous
Last year
10:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594424

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"The Boomers were a few minutes away from the greatest upset of all time."

No they weren't. They lost in the exact amount of time they had to win in.


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KET
Last year
10:40 11 Aug 16

Reply #594425

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"THE epic Olympics basketball clash between the Aussie Boomers and USA Dream Team has proved the game that stopped a nation - with 450,000 live streams of the clash, compared to the 348,000 who watched last year's Melbourne Cup race. Seven are expecting the 450,000-figure for the Dream Team game to improve, once final numbers are crunched."


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KET
Last year
10:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594426

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Geez, basketball in Australia & the NBL have a real chance to gain some momentum


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spot up
Last year
10:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594427

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Anon, I'm not sure you quite understand the quote that you've responded to there..


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Anonymous
Last year
10:43 11 Aug 16

Reply #594428

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I understand it perfectly. ME wanted extra time despite being down 10


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Anonymous
Last year
10:43 11 Aug 16

Reply #594429

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Maybe not picking Newley will come back to haunt them!
Needed another perimeter defender to guard melo and durrant and Newley could've been effective.
Picking Martin was a mistake considering we already have two point gaurds plus Mills.
Martin is just not good enough for international level basketball.


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Mick
Last year
10:47 11 Aug 16

Reply #594430

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That fast-break layup that Goulding bricked off the glass? Newley dunks it, just saying...


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Speed44
Last year
10:51 11 Aug 16

Reply #594431

re: Boomers v USA game thread

AUS have been great these first three games. No need to dissect today's game too much I think. We did as good as pretty much anyone has against them since their overhaul in 2006. Too many TOs and offensive boards for them hurt us in the end.

Even though we've been great so far, my fears of China and Venezuela are heightened now. One stupid little slip could cost us a shot in either medal game now. Let's hope for no letdown in tenacity.


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paul
Last year
10:51 11 Aug 16

Reply #594432

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I think Martin showed he could defend their wing guys just fine! The defensive issues were a mobile four to run Anthony off the line and defensive rebounding, not the wings.

As I said before though, our defence was fine, had we not given them 20 extra possessions we win that game.


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paul
Last year
10:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594434

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Speed44, even if we lost to China and Venezuela, France would need to beat the USA to overtake us. And if they did they'd take first place, the USA second and we'd still avoid the US until the final.

Don't stress about the last two games, the boys have got them covered.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594435

re: Boomers v USA game thread

There is no chance we slip up against teams USA beat by something like 50 when we've just barely lost by 10 to them. Will be heavily resting our stars in these next two


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paul
Last year
10:56 11 Aug 16

Reply #594436

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That was meant to read "lose to China or Venezuela". Losing both would be an issue.


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Wilson Sting
Last year
10:56 11 Aug 16

Reply #594437

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Not sure why Melo was left open so much. He wasn't threatening inside, just shooting open 3's. Why not put someone like Motum on him just to stay with him and don't worry about anything else? At least foul him, make him earn it. I know that's ironic given Motum's not the most agile defender but he had nothing to lose if he got in foul trouble.

Kyrie was the main difference. His control, composure and accuracy when it's needed most is second to none.

But overall, great game from the Boomers. The chemistry between the starting 5 is excellent and probably the best in the tournament.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:57 11 Aug 16

Reply #594438

re: Boomers v USA game thread

One lucky Martin steal doesn't mean he went just fine.
Martin doesn't add anything on the offensive end where Newley is a better all round defender who can guard multiple positions and can offer much more offensively.
We are lacking athletic perimeter defenders and if our goal is/was to beat the USA who are stacked at the small forward position then I think picking Martin was a mistake.


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Bear
Last year
10:57 11 Aug 16

Reply #594439

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Really, 'ifs buts and maybes' are as irrelevant as Team USA saying, 'gee if we only had Le Bron we could win by 30 points every game'...


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Anonymous
Last year
10:58 11 Aug 16

Reply #594440

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Exactly where would Newley have played tonight? Who's minutes would he have taken?

We've beaten France and Serbia, got within ten of the best team out there, had our best overall start to a tournament by miles, and people are bitching about Newley not being there? I guess Townsville fans have to stay relevant somehow, and Adelaide fans will continually be butthurt for the rest of their lives.


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Uncle Phil
Last year
11:02 11 Aug 16

Reply #594441

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Paul George is such a sook, complaining the Boomers are dirty and the refs favoured us, if anything the USA got the better of the Reffing, some really soft calls against our bigs. Great performance by the boomers though, the offence is so good to watch!


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Mystro
Last year
11:05 11 Aug 16

Reply #594442

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Well done to the Boomers, they can hold their heads high with that result


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Speed44
Last year
11:05 11 Aug 16

Reply #594443

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That's true Paul, but would like to carry this momentum thru to the next round. Really would like to blow out both of them. Though resting Bogut seems more important right now, he really is massively important to our ball movement and defense


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Anonymous
Last year
11:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594444

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I honestly didn't expect us to contend for a medal prior to these games now I expect nothing less than bronze.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:15 11 Aug 16

Reply #594445

re: Boomers v USA game thread

if we dont get a medal, its because Newley didn't get picked...


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Bear
Last year
11:17 11 Aug 16

Reply #594446

re: Boomers v USA game thread

LMFAO anon ^


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Anonymous
Last year
11:18 11 Aug 16

Reply #594447

re: Boomers v USA game thread

MVP is going to one of the big 3 Aussies. I'd say Patty but Bogut and Delly up there too


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Luuuc
Last year
11:20 11 Aug 16

Reply #594448

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Let's win a game outside of the pool stage before talking about any aussie MVP candidates hey


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Isaac
Last year
11:20 11 Aug 16

Reply #594449

re: Boomers v USA game thread

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Anonymous
Last year
11:21 11 Aug 16

Reply #594450

re: Boomers v USA game thread

After the games we've played you're a fool not talking up their chances


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Zodiac
Last year
11:38 11 Aug 16

Reply #594451

re: Boomers v USA game thread

They got serious in the second half turned up the D and we couldn't get anything going. We scored 54 in the first half to 34 in the second half. Our defence wasn't an issue you make them shoot from outside and Melo will never hit 9 3's in a game again for the rest of his life. We were breaking down offensively and Mills tried his best to keep us in it but we really needed someone else to step up too.

Anyway a lot to take out of the first half and if we run into them again just make sure we don't play as poorly as we did in the second half again. Baynes could do with a smack upside the head though built like Tarzan still playing like Jane.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:42 11 Aug 16

Reply #594452

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Losing to the USA means nothing, we still have to win our nxt 2 games. The crossover game is the 1 and it won't be easy we'll have to beat either (Spain, Argentina, Croatia, Brazil or Lithuania) to give ourselves a chance at a medal.

*LETS GO BOOMERS*


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Bear
Last year
11:45 11 Aug 16

Reply #594453

re: Boomers v USA game thread

@Zodiac, I think Baynes will be the first one to say he needs to be better if we play them again, let's see what he does from here...


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Duke Fan
Last year
12:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594457

re: Boomers v USA game thread

It would have been easy, as many suggested, to count that game as gone and rest people and be content with them winning by 40. But we didn't and that was an awesome effort. Really proud of the team and hopefully that performance gives us some good karma with the basketball gods after previous tanking saw us get punished. This team is good enough to win a medal with a bit of luck going our way


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paul
Last year
12:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594458

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"Let's win a game outside of the pool stage before talking about any aussie MVP candidates hey"

Exactly. While our form is awesome and very exciting, wherever you finish will mean a very tough QF, one that we'll have to play very well to win.

The big challenge is can we maintain this style, or do we go into our shells in the knockouts like we did against Turkey at the WC? With the team and coaching staff now more experienced and Bogut in the line-up I’m pretty hopeful we can play that game on our terms, and that would give us a great shot.

The other exciting thing is we are definitely good enough to win games in the medal rounds, moreso than 1996 which is the only other time we’ve looked likely.


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Bear
Last year
12:50 11 Aug 16

Reply #594460

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I think the rest of the world will have us as their favourite team to get into that gold medal game now, so if it happens I suggest we all buckle in for a massive ride, here is hoping...


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Luuuc
Last year
12:52 11 Aug 16

Reply #594462

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The main thing that gives me optimism this time is the mental aspect. So far it feels like the players & coaches have handled that side of the tournament close to flawlessly, and when it comes down to the big evenly-matched crunch contests, that's priceless.
Hopefully we can keep that up while still addressing some of the playing kinks.


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Speed44
Last year
12:59 11 Aug 16

Reply #594464

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Got my eye on Spain in the other group. Hanging around in the lower half, could be a nasty matchup in the crossover despite their lack of Marc and their age. A team that knows the big stage.


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Isaac
Last year
13:03 11 Aug 16

Reply #594465

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Bogut's block:



Delly finds Bogut alone under the bucket:



Delly lob to Bogut:



Delly to Patty:



Delly off one leg:



My favourite play of the game. US out by 7. Bogut demands the ball, then finds cutting Mills:



Transition team play finds Ingles ahead of Butler:


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LV
Last year
13:14 11 Aug 16

Reply #594466

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Brilliant effort by the Boomers.

And yeah, it was clear Lemanis was happy trying a few different things. It says a lot that Motum, Goulding, Martin all got on court in the first half while Barnes and Derozan barely got on court for USA.

If it gets to a Gold medal match, Lemanis will play Bogut, Patty and Delly for 35 minutes each- those 3 were the best players on court today, along with Anthony who had the hot hand. They're all having superb tournaments and working together awesomely


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bulldog
Last year
13:20 11 Aug 16

Reply #594467

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Did anyone else look at the starting five for each team and think to themselves we have 4 NBA championships to their 1?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:26 11 Aug 16

Reply #594468

re: Boomers v USA game thread

That usually happens when you send a C grade squad


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Anonymous
Last year
13:29 11 Aug 16

Reply #594469

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I looked and thought these guys are all starters for the best NBA teams and we have Bogut and some backups and that's a ton more impressive


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XY
Last year
13:30 11 Aug 16

Reply #594470

re: Boomers v USA game thread

They had three sitting on the bench though.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:30 11 Aug 16

Reply #594471

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"That usually happens when you send a C grade squad"

All but one is an all star. How does that make them C grade?


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paul
Last year
13:37 11 Aug 16

Reply #594472

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I looked and thought they've got a few guys who haven't played together at this level before but our guys have been there and done that together.

That showed, in terms of execution at both ends we were superior, and that's why teams like Spain, Lithuania and France are so tough at the pointy end. The Boomers are at that stage now.


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KET
Last year
13:40 11 Aug 16

Reply #594473

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Did anyone else look at the starting five for each team and think to themselves we have 4 NBA championships to their 1?


Irving and Klay both have championships


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Anonymous
Last year
13:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594474

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Do you honestly think if every American was healthy that would be the squad they would send?


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KET
Last year
13:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594475

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Also lol who's the Aussie commentating BBC basketball?


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Mick
Last year
13:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594476

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Out of all the other top 10 teams, who else can say their entire starting five guys are all pretty much in the prime or just on the tail end of it? The USA is it.

All the other teams are relying on their elite guys being too old, too young, or a combination of both.

The timeline is in our favour.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:49 11 Aug 16

Reply #594477

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"I looked and thought they've got a few guys who haven't played together at this level before but our guys have been there and done that together.

That showed, in terms of execution at both ends we were superior."

So losing to a team that have hardly played together, despite the Australians having experience playing together AND playing out of their skins, means the Australians were superior?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:50 11 Aug 16

Reply #594478

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Australia are fairly prime...


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Anonymous
Last year
13:50 11 Aug 16

Reply #594480

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Oh you said who else. My apologies.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:55 11 Aug 16

Reply #594481

re: Boomers v USA game thread

If you're trying to downplay the superiority of the US team, please stop.


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Bear
Last year
13:57 11 Aug 16

Reply #594482

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I thought it more interesting that each team had a fantastic multi-cultural mix on the court.

Thompson from Bahamas-African-European stock
Irving from Afro-American Aussie background
The others in Team USA's starting 5 mainly Afro-Americans I think.

Bogut from Euro-Australian mix
Baynes born in NZ
Mills a local Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islander
Dellavedova is a sixth gen' Italian Aussie
Ingles roots are from the UK I believe.

Just great to see all of our guys gel so well on court and play for the green and gold, I am sure not one of them was looking at their opponent wondering how many rings they have...


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Anonymous
Last year
14:00 11 Aug 16

Reply #594484

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The USA were only superior at rebounding really.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:03 11 Aug 16

Reply #594486

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Rebounding, and winning


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Anonymous
Last year
14:03 11 Aug 16

Reply #594487

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Winning because of rebounding.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:04 11 Aug 16

Reply #594488

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Only superior at rebounding
Still won by double figures


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snooch
Last year
14:05 11 Aug 16

Reply #594489

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Paul George made a complete and utter arseclown of himself in the after-match interview.
His "they're all role players" quip was more pathetic than the accusations of being dirty.

Well, guess what PG, four of those "role players" have NBA rings, and one of them just lit you up for 30.
Where's your ring flog?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:08 11 Aug 16

Reply #594490

re: Boomers v USA game thread

One starter, four role guys. I mean is he wrong? You probably think Delly is better than Nash because he has a ring that he wasn't benched for Mo Williams before winning or anything


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Bear
Last year
14:08 11 Aug 16

Reply #594491

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I see anon suffering the technical 1D-10T computer error is back again, gee you were missed buddy...


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LV
Last year
14:08 11 Aug 16

Reply #594492

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Which other team has a starting 5 made up of players who all play meaningful minutes in the NBA, 4 of whom have won championships in the last 3 years?

And- 3 of them have played under Popovich or Kerr, two coaches who have revolutionised NBA basketball in the past few years. The Spurs took ball movement and team play to a new level in 2014, then Kerr copied it and bettered it in 2015 and 2016, and would've had back to back championships had it not been for Green’s stupidity and Bogut’s injury.

Patty and Bogut (and Baynes, for a while) have been playing for the two benchmark teams in the world, who have arguably produced the highest level of team basketball ever seen. Ever. (And Delly’s been a back up point for the reigning champions, and is a selfless, team first player).

That experience is all showing right now.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:09 11 Aug 16

Reply #594493

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Here I was thinking Bear was a grown man


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Bear
Last year
14:11 11 Aug 16

Reply #594495

re: Boomers v USA game thread

If nothing else, you are predictable, aren't you?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:12 11 Aug 16

Reply #594496

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I'd be taking that as a compliment. A bunch of role players just challenged you as good as anyone has


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Anonymous
Last year
14:15 11 Aug 16

Reply #594497

re: Boomers v USA game thread

About as predictable as the Boomers chances to win today. Not very


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Je
Last year
14:16 11 Aug 16

Reply #594498

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Playing devil's advocate, touch wood etc. etc. ... but if we finish second in our group after beating China and Venezuela (as we should), and then put in a solid, competitive performance but ultimately lose to Brazil/Spain/Lithuania in the quarter-final, how will this campaign be judged?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:19 11 Aug 16

Reply #594499

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Baynes 15
Delly 21
Mills 16
Ingles 18

Seem like role player minutes to me


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Speed44
Last year
14:19 11 Aug 16

Reply #594500

re: Boomers v USA game thread

If everything you said, happens, it will be a disappointing tourney.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:19 11 Aug 16

Reply #594501

re: Boomers v USA game thread

After these three games? Disappointing


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Isaac
Last year
14:22 11 Aug 16

Reply #594503

re: Boomers v USA game thread

So losing to a team that have hardly played together, despite the Australians having experience playing together AND playing out of their skins, means the Australians were superior?
Reading comprehension and logic fail...


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LV
Last year
14:23 11 Aug 16

Reply #594504

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Je, it'd be judged as our best effort since Sydney, but ultimately unsatisfying.

Before this tourny, it looked to me like every team outside China/Ven/Nigeria had a serious shot at a medal. (In all likelihood that's 8 teams vying for 2 medals, since it's very hard to see the US not even getting Bronze).

I still think that's the case, but given the Boomers form over the first 3 games, I think the expectations have now risen to the point where *not* achieving our best result ever and getting a medal, will be seen as a big disappointment.

Most observers would say the Aussies have now proven they can consistently play at a level worthy of the gold medal game. Certainly, we've been comfortably the second best team to date. (Although, Argentina have been very impressive too- but in only 2 games). So that raises the bar. Based on the players comments, they expect a medal- and after the attention that this morning's game will get, the rest of the country now shares that expectation!


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AussiePride
Last year
14:23 11 Aug 16

Reply #594505

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I view the campaign as already successful. Playing the last 2 games of the preliminary round not desperately hoping for a win is a great thing for Australian basketball.

Anything from here is a bonus although expectations are high because of how well the Boomers are playing.


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Bear
Last year
14:27 11 Aug 16

Reply #594506

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I will be watching closely now to see how Serbia and France handle Team USA, two tough games for them after two soft ones before us will be very interesting...


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Baller#3
Last year
14:27 11 Aug 16

Reply #594508

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We need to come out all guns blazing and put China and Venezuela away by 30+ each! Although I'm glad we have 2 easier games left, I hope we don't take it too easy, and come out slow in the QFs


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LV
Last year
14:35 11 Aug 16

Reply #594512

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I'll watch the Boomers two remaining games, but other than that I'll have all eyes on Pool B. Pool B is far more interesting, and there's already been a heap of close contests there.

You have the mighty midgets Argentina, who lack size and depth and are heavily reliant on a pair of 36 year olds who are playing as very undersized PF and C (Scola and Nocioni) but have a wealth of international experience with 4 holdovers from their 04 Gold (those two plus Delfino and Ginobili). With apologies to Steve Nash and Mike D'Antonio, small ball never looked so pretty.

Then you have the home town heroes Brazil, the youthful squad from Croatia who look like they’ll be an international powerhouse for the next decade, traditional powerhouse Spain who are out of sorts but can’t be counted out, and the Lithuanians- who don’t have many big names but consistently achieve great results in international play.


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ME
Last year
14:36 11 Aug 16

Reply #594513

re: Boomers v USA game thread

"So losing to a team that have hardly played together, despite the Australians having experience playing together AND playing out of their skins, means the Australians were superior?"

Sounds like the very definition of the word.

"Playing devil's advocate, touch wood etc. etc. ... but if we finish second in our group after beating China and Venezuela (as we should), and then put in a solid, competitive performance but ultimately lose to Brazil/Spain/Lithuania in the quarter-final, how will this campaign be judged?"

After this start it would be a disappointment. Top four should be the absolute lowest they come if we're being true to how they've started and the potential they've shown, but I'm thinking it's medal or bust now.

"Only superior at rebounding
Still won by double figures"

So the guy who predicted a blow out finally has found the courage to pop his head out with some inane crap. THe ultimate hater.

"Do you honestly think if every American was healthy that would be the squad they would send?"

I love how it goes from 'the USA could beat us by 40 with their C squad' and when we almost beat them "it was only their C squad". That's some classic goal post moving there.


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Rat10
Last year
14:40 11 Aug 16

Reply #594514

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Had a friend watching in the US and the commentators remarked that it looked as if the "Aussies had been playing together for 10 years".

Ringing endorsement of how the team has come together in such a short time, and how smooth the offense is.

Silly comments from George. There's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty and there were no plays you could class as dirty by the Boomers.


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KET
Last year
14:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594516

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Americans like to winge


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hoopie
Last year
14:43 11 Aug 16

Reply #594517

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Great effort by all. Shame we ran out of energy in the last quarter. Now to keep up that high quality through to the gold medal round.

And, I hate to admit it but ... if Lemanis and co can keep up this level of quality, I'd be happy for them to keep going after Rio when we integrate our exciting youngsters.


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Speed44
Last year
14:45 11 Aug 16

Reply #594518

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I love how people think that 10 points or "double figures" means a thrashing. Obviously didn't watch the game. One Ingles rim out from being down 2 inside the last 70 seconds I believe. It was a very close game.

If it wasn't for Melo keeping them in touch when the rest of this "C Squad" couldn't hit the ocean, then it might've been different altogether.


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Bear
Last year
14:46 11 Aug 16

Reply #594519

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Some interesting articles out there:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/nba-star-paul-george-calls-australia-dirty-as-kevin-durant-predicts-rio-olympics-medal-rematch-20160811-gqq0s6.html

From the article:

US coach Mike Krzyzewski was full of praise for the Australians, describing them as genuine gold medal contenders.

Krzyzewski said the clash with Australia was their first 'real' match of the Rio games, taking plenty of positives out of a rare tough encounter for the team that has lost just five of 138 appearances at the Olympics.

"We beat a heck of a team tonight," Krzyzewski said.

"I mean Australia has probably played the best of anybody in the Olympics. They played three really tough opponents, us being the third one - they just played lights out basketball. They play so well together as one.

"For us I thought it was a heck of a win because we beat a really good team, an outstanding team that was playing really well. That's the first real, real international we've had. The first two games we played we were significantly better than those two, but this is the real world now. "


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ME
Last year
14:52 11 Aug 16

Reply #594521

re: Boomers v USA game thread

And the lead "ballooned" to ten because Australia had to foul while in the penalty to stop the clock. It was much, much closer than 10 points for the entire game. Obviously this troll never watched. Just another guy moving goal posts.


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Naph
Last year
14:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594522

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Depends on the knockout game.

As long as the team acquit themselves well against Spain/Lithuania/Whoever I'll be fine. I'll be disappointed they couldn't go on with it after a good start, but content. Nothing wrong with playing good basketball and getting beaten on the day.


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Bear
Last year
14:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594523

re: Boomers v USA game thread

And this is heartening from the Aussie camp:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-11/boomers-match-it-with-usa-in-basketball-epic/7719274

A paste from the article says a fair bit about what some of our players are thinking:

"You don't get sh*t for small victories or moral victories," said Andrew Bogut after the game, which Australia lost 98-88.

"We're not coming out of this like 'this was an awesome game'. We lost."

Yet it was hard not to be impressed with one of the most polished performances produced by an Australian men's team at Olympic level.

"We beat a heck of team tonight," US coach Mike Krzyzewski said.

"They just played, I think, 'lights out' basketball."


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skull
Last year
14:54 11 Aug 16

Reply #594525

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Anderson was used sparingly in last qtr? (if at all)
i thought with him being such a huge mid range threat it may have got us some better long distance looks down the stretch.


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snooch
Last year
14:57 11 Aug 16

Reply #594528

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Coach K bringing some humility and perspective. Hopefully he can instill some of that into the players, PG particularly.


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ME
Last year
15:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594532

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Paul George is a twat. He just can't accept that they almost fell today and that there is a masssive target on their backs now that the Aussies have shown it is very possible to do.


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Duke Fan
Last year
15:51 11 Aug 16

Reply #594536

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Certainly anyone who watched the game and isn't a moron knows this was closer than the final result. Mills rimmed a 3 when we were 4 down with not long to go then we started to have to foul. If that shot had dropped anything might have happened


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MACDUB
Last year
16:06 11 Aug 16

Reply #594539

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Durant was nearly about to become an Australian citizen!


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Ricky
Last year
16:12 11 Aug 16

Reply #594541

re: Boomers v USA game thread

lol


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Anonymous
Last year
16:24 11 Aug 16

Reply #594543

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers were the better team throughout the game. USA just had the shots that dropped at the end. The plays that the boomers were pulling off were first class. I have a new found respect for Bogut's game. Boomers should be proud for their first 3 games.


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LC
Last year
16:28 11 Aug 16

Reply #594544

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Was a great game. #unfinishedbusiness


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Michael Owen
Last year
16:53 11 Aug 16

Reply #594547

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Australia would have won the game if they didn't lose


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Camel 31
Last year
17:00 11 Aug 16

Reply #594548

re: Boomers v USA game thread

History became a lie.
usa a one point better team at this game.


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Shaggy
Last year
17:37 11 Aug 16

Reply #594554

re: Boomers v USA game thread

And just imagine what that result would have been with Simmons and Exum involved.....


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rjd
Last year
17:44 11 Aug 16

Reply #594557

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Boomers have one major area to improve after this game: rebounding. The 47-40 rebounding disparity to USA doesn't really show how dominant USA was in rebounding because the Boomers missed 33 shots compared with USA's 53 misses. At one end, the Boomers had 32 defensive boards while USA had 21 offensive boards. Bogut and Baynes combined for just 2 defensive rebounds between them. Andersen had 5 boards, but that is just about as much as we can expect from him. The Boomers inability to clean up the defensive rebounds is really what gave USA the win.

Sure, USA put up a lot of 3s that lead to long rebounds, but is that enough to excuse the disparity?


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Mick
Last year
18:18 11 Aug 16

Reply #594566

re: Boomers v USA game thread

We are small outside of our frontcourt so always going to be giving up team rebounds.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:13 11 Aug 16

Reply #594569

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Ten News Perth just said that only two teams have ever beaten the US at the Olympics (Argentina and the Soviet Union). Am I crazy or did they lose at least three games in the 2004 Olympics?


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KET
Last year
19:26 11 Aug 16

Reply #594573

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Puerto Rico 92-73 United States

Lithuania 94–90 United States

Argentina 89-81 United States


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Anonymous
Last year
19:33 11 Aug 16

Reply #594575

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Replay on now


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Anonymous
Last year
20:41 11 Aug 16

Reply #594599

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Congrats to the team well done, great performance.

On behalf of a lot of people, I'd like to also say well done to one Andrej Lemanis.


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Cram
Last year
21:38 11 Aug 16

Reply #594616

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The blessing and The curse of Olympic basketball is that as good or as bad as you play in the group it all comes down to the first crossover match as to whether it's a successful campaign or not. We're in form and have put ourselves into the best possible position but that game will be tough and if we don't win it will be massively disappointing


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ME
Last year
21:52 11 Aug 16

Reply #594622

re: Boomers v USA game thread

If it does end up being a Gold Medal preview, it's shaping up to be spicy as fuck with all of the trash talk back and forth. The show ponies vs the Aussie battlers, All Stars vs role players with heart. A champion team vs a team of champions. If it goes down to the wire as it did today it would be one for the ages.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:59 11 Aug 16

Reply #594637

re: Boomers v USA game thread

My thought is that the US didn't win the game, Australia lost it in that last quarter with turnovers, lack of patience and rushed shots... In that I mean that the Boomers can do a lot to sort out their issues but not so sure that the US can.


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ME
Last year
23:39 11 Aug 16

Reply #594641

re: Boomers v USA game thread

The most surprising thing about the US is they seemed to have now way to penetrate the Australian zone. Pretty much everything they threw up was from three point range. They may have got some put backs but that was the extent of everything they did within 22 feet of the ring. I am wondering why Australia was able to keep them at that distance when they struggled to do that against Serbia.


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Anonymous
Last year
06:54 12 Aug 16

Reply #594650

re: Boomers v USA game thread

I suggest Team USA has more guys willing to pull the trigger on that outside shot than Serbia, who may be hesitant while looking for other options first.


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Naph
Last year
10:19 12 Aug 16

Reply #594757

re: Boomers v USA game thread

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/8/11/12432950/australia-team-usa-basketball-olympics-rio-2016-andrew-bogut

Nice article talking up some of the particulars of Australia's offense.


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paul
Last year
10:30 12 Aug 16

Reply #594766

re: Boomers v USA game thread

Nice article. The great thing about the Kiwi system is all the decoy action that makes you think it's equal opportunity, as the author wrote, whereas it is very directed to creating certain shots or executing counters off that.

It's a beautiful thing to watch, and glad it's not just our cousins getting to enjoy it anymore! Bogut is like our version of Pero Cameron on the international stage.


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