Anonymous
Years ago

College Basketball investigated by FBI

Looks like Arizona could be in big trouble with the FBI apparently have head coach Sean Miller recorded negotiating $110k for Ayton to sign with them. And the investigation stretches into a lot of other top major schools.
Would have thought the old brown paper bag full of cash and new cars dropped off in driveways, straight from the 80s and 90s, is crazy and not back in favour. Straight out of Blue Chips. Louisville just had their championship vacated, how many other programs will be hit with big sanctions. Pretty stupid in this day and age.

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thatguyontheend  
Years ago

Ask the coaches and they will say they had no idea it was happening????

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Anonymous  
Years ago

money talks in college sports...sometimes talks too much too,its big business in America,its not a hobby like it is here

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not surprising. Has been going on forever and will continue to. The rewards are too great.

It is a bit like the drug trade or tax evasion - has been going on forever and despite penalties & incarceration as deterrents, will continue to go on.

It is systemic in the NCAA landscape.

My kid went to a high Div 1 college. No Commercial flights like it is here for the AFL teams. Every flight was a charter for the Men's BB team only including coaches & support staff. On a trip to New York a 250 seat jet was chartered to accommodate coach's families, Boosters & their families, etc. All paid by boosters - Ex College Grads who become donors/sponsors of the college.

According to USA Today there are 41 NCAA Head Coaches paid in excess of USD1 Mill. With the top being Louisville's Rick Pitino USD7.7 Million.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

NCAA Football budgets/expenditure is even higher.

NCAA Sports dwarf our peak sport, the AFL, for budgets/expenditure.

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koberulz  
Years ago

It is a bit like the drug trade or tax evasion - has been going on forever and despite penalties & incarceration as deterrents, will continue to go on.
I can think of one really easy way to stop it...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sure it goes on, but for Miller to apparently get caught on tape, how dumb is he. Most of the time it's underlings that bring the house down, and stupid things like hooker's at Louisville I believe. Then the whole pretence of student athletes and assignments being done for them or teachers giving passing grades. Bring in "death penalty" for schools like smu in football, no games whatsoever. Won't happen because of money involved. Or the sanctions that Kentucky got when a package fell open full of cash. Just really surprised at Miller though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another option is to just make it transparent and pay the kids, just try to ensure Max of say $100k and be done with all the pretence. Rich schools are getting the talent anyway and making millions of them. Might get some kids staying in school to get better instead of leaving to primarily help their family.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They get paid in college anyway.

The shoe companies help big schools recruit by signing the top talented kids to an endorsement deal through the parents into a trust fund that only vests to the child once they leave college. Legal circumvention.

The problem is these athletes from a certain background want more more more and get even more $$$ in addition to this, which creates these issues.

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Matt  
Years ago

NBA should take over youth development in USA eg La Lakers U-20's vs Celtics U-20's, and pay players like 50k per year and subsidise there accomadation and food and education. I here stories of NCAA players being malnourished etc while the NCCA Uni's make millions of these kids labor.. Terrance Fergusson said in NBL he was able to train 2wice a day and take sponosorship money from Under Armour and a little bit from 36er's

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D2.0  
Years ago

The fundamental problem is that nobody actually wants to stop it, not even those employed to police the issue. The NCAA is a huge, affluent, powerful organisation, and nobody wants to stop the gravy train. If you could somehow magically transform this mega-industry into a genuine amateur comp, then all those officials would be back to working as volunteers, and nobody wants that.

The USA is a big country, and something like half the states don't have a single major-league team in any sport. So its no wonder College sports form a genuine 2nd tier.

IMHO, they probably should legitimise these comps as professional leagues. I understand there's a whole raft of divisions and conferences, based on the relative strengths of the programs, so maybe cap each one to ensure a relatively level field within each. So your top "division" could be fully professional, with salary cap in the millions, down to the lowest divisions being legitimate scholarship only.
It doesn't really fix the problem, but at least it makes it more open and honest, and removes the corruption.

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thatguyontheend  
Years ago

To keep this perspective this a Div 1 issue, yes minor infractions do happen at Div2,3 and JuCo but the reality is a small percentage of Div 1 schools (blue bloods) for want of a better name

This does not surpirse me, but like drug cheats. Find them punish them and move on! don't give them too much oxygen

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where is this shoe deals given to parents to hold in trust, calling bullshit on that. Then any company and booster can do the same, and majority of schools are nike and adidas so how do they choose what school to go to???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

they are not permitted to deal with the likes of Nike ,Adidas etc on a personal level ever,those companies sponsor universities,and depending on which one it is depends on how much sponsorship they get.
Boosters are the ones who call the shots in college basketball,they are pandered to big time to keep the money coming in

the bigger the universities profile the bigger the budget the more they want bang for their buck.

basically your top 25 div 1 colleges for that sport are where the money sits. and it changes depending on the sport,its when colleges target a player and forget their ethical structure that it comes undone

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Matt, there are no D1 college malnourished unless they don't like the resort/4 star plus hotel eating facilities provided to them.

Where these payments happen is mostly the "blue bloods" as pointed out above. These athletes are looked after extremely well beyond these illegal cash payments.

They do have to live and perform like pro athletes, they bring in massive revenue to these programs. Not saying they should not be paid as pros just saying they would not be malnourished in these kinds of programs. They are treated VERY well indeed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

#674578 you are extremely dumb.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm dumb, post where shoe companies legitimately pay athletes families where to go. Then we'll see who's dumb moron.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You continue to be stupid. Pray tell where would I post "where" when it is illegal and behind closed doors. If I could post a link to it then the FBI would be on to them like what has happened to Miller. Jesus F Christ!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The fundamental issue has to be that the NCAA can't afford to stop this. Look at the list of schools implicated and that's what? 90% of the income derived from men's basketball? You're going to post-season ban all those schools for a couple of years and have a few NCAA tournaments that nobody watches, costing you hundreds of millions of dollars?

I agree with #522, the only really shocking part of it is the Miller revelation because I wouldn't expect a head coach to be stupid enough to touch stuff like that personally.

It's a fascinating process, though. The NCAA has nothing like the investigative powers of the FBI, but the FBI has much higher thresholds for conviction/penalty. So if the FBI can't get something to stick, how much information will they hand over to the NCAA so that they can hand out administrative penalties where legal ones weren't available? Does the NCAA want them to do that? The behind the scenes would be incredible.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dear moron with the shoe company conspiracy theory. So you admit there's no proof, just an imaginary figment of your tiny mind. Mate, you went full retard, never go full retard!

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