Isaac
Last year

SF1v4 Game 2: Breakers vs United, March 5

Will the Breakers recover and make a series of it, or will United go 2-0 and sit waiting for their GF opponent to emerge?

Breakers are $1.65 favourites which strikes me as a touch short? Line is -2.5.

In the first game, Ili was one shining light while Newbill got to 19 points. Abercrombie managed only 5, Vukona fouled out with a single rebound and 4 turnovers, and Loe was 0/6 FG.

United got the first win without strong games from Goulding or Boone, and with Ware getting all the attention. Breakers will need more from their ranks and to suppress the Melbourne weapons this time - how do you like their chances?

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Zodiac  
Last year

I think NZB are in the same boat as Perth an aging core winding down. Penney's done, Vukona's just about done and Abercrombie & Pledger both seem to be winding down a bit early too.

It's an interesting time for the Breakers with the transition to new ownership and looking to their future with Ili, Delany and Ngatai. Perhaps they'll be able to lure T. Webster & Fotu back from Europe.

Melbourne won game 1 convincingly with quiet games from everyone except Casper Ware and I can't see NZB being as fortunate this time.

I hope they win I'd like to see nothing more than Melb extended and roughed up heading into the GF but I think Melb have too many weapons for them to counter.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

I know Abercrombie has been great over the years, but I still classify his career as an underachieving one. Never worked on the handle and never bulked up to impose his will on defenders

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Anonymous  
Last year



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Tribe  
Last year

NZ to win at home i reckon

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Tom  
Last year

We need Melbourne to help us out They have to be a little off their game.
Limit Casper to 20, Penny or Abercrombie???? to match that and Sosa or Newbill make some big plays down the stretch.
Otherwise Melbourne will close it out comfortably.

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NannasAlwaysRight  
Last year

I reckon United will win the championship but Vukona, Ili and Newbill play well, it goes to game 3.
NZ at home are hard to stop but beatable.

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Luuuc  
Last year

Hoping NZ can get it done and at least give MU something to think about for game 3.
Both semis ending in sweeps would be bit of a downer.
Also hoping for Penney to have a good one in likely his last home game. What a legend this guy has been.

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Anonymous  
Last year

No score ticker? Hopeless!

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Anonymous  
Last year

I see there is a Jamaican dog playing for Melbourne.

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Isaac  
Last year

16-4 start by New Zealand is handy.

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Spot Up  
Last year

Nice 'defence' Tom, but the Oscars are all finished..

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

God Majok is pathetic

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Anonymous  
Last year

Second quarter and score graphic displaying 'Q1'?

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AngusH  
Last year

Prather too focused on scoring. Even with that nice spin move, he drew two defenders and got one off his feet and tried for the shot instead of hitting a wide open Majok next to the basket.

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Spot Up  
Last year

Always amusing when the commentators say that Goulding forces shots and they sound surprised. Never watched him play before?

Also commentators whinging about the calls is pathetically amateurish.

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

United is completely shook.

No longer moving man and ball. They ain't winning the championship at this rate

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Anonymous  
Last year

This game is a mess

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Tom  
Last year

Scoring has dried up. Momentum shifting to Melbourne. Need Penney in the game?? right now.

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Perth Wilburs  
Last year

Melbourne too good, don't think NZ can recover.

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Duncan  
Last year

My only question is where is Casey Frank???? Good game but the mute button could get some use soon

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AngusH  
Last year

What is Rob Loe doing. Two dumb fouls (the 1st Q one on Goulding too where he couldve been called 3 times) and he's lucky he hasn't been ejected already.

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cavolo  
Last year

Wow... Ugggggllllllleeeeee game so far... If it ends up being Melb vs Adel GF, it will be concerning IF 36ers maintain their high scoring ability against a seriously challenged United offence. Lucky they have a great scrapped in Boone to keep them in touch.

Seems like some fans didn't realise that GM1 was much closer than final margin and NZ let the game slip away like they have so many games this season. As a result, even with a good NZ lead, I still don't have confidence in them to play the way they need to for long enough to close out games....

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Anonymous  
Last year

36ers staff watching this game quietly contemplating which part of the office the trophy would look best in

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cavolo  
Last year

*scrapper....

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yep. Ware is as dirty and cocky as Goulding. Going for an Oscar best supporting flopper to favourite Goulding.

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Anonymous  
Last year

NZ should have made more of their 2st half superiority. They blew it.

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Anonymous  
Last year

*1st half

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FSTOS  
Last year

Abercrombie completely MIA

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Anonymous  
Last year

Good game!!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Breakers hit 7 3 pointers that qtr?

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Majok is just... omg. What is going on upstairs with that guy?

They call him 'Majok Majok' in case he forgets the first time

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AngusH  
Last year

Penney aint going to die wondering.

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Anonymous  
Last year

OT!

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Anonymous  
Last year

Christmas is killing NZ in OT

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Anonymous  
Last year

Clean the bloody floor

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Anonymous  
Last year

Sosa absoutely the wrong person lead gat last play and get Christmas off. And again with Sosa. Put Ili on, he deserves the time to show what he's got.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Next year Melbourne will be back to 3 imports.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Wow these commentators

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Anonymous  
Last year

LOLding

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Up by 3
Team loses ball on O
Brainless foul

Go cg43

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Anonymous  
Last year

Don't forget the CG43 heroball shot earlier when Melbs offence was going well

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Yeah but fouling out was a contribution towards game quality

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Anonymous  
Last year

Take a bow, Boone

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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Yeah.

Won game for his team throughout the game.

Then won game in dying fraction of final second with final put back under pressure.



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AngusH  
Last year

Wow. Boone was huge tonight, on a night where a number of guys on both teams were MIA.

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Anon  
Last year

So much irrational hate for Goulding in here. Wares hero ball shot late in the 4th was terrible, not a peep. Goulding takes a real charge from Sosa and no call, not a peep.

Even the homer NZ commentators were able to say he played good D today.

Boone was huge today, he won that game.

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Anonymous  
Last year

One of the best games of the year

Boone owned Christmas

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbourne back to playing like before Prather went down, to much one out and starters only. Adelaide should start favourite if the get job done against Perth, commentary was woefull not certain if they were at the game, lol.

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Tribe  
Last year

Wow what a game

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Anonymous  
Last year

Yes very enjoyable game.

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LV  
Last year

Well Boone and Casper certainly justified their 1st team selections in this series

Was impressed with Goulding's game too. All around game including plenty of quality assists, defensive efforts as well as a few trademark carpark threes.

Could've gone either way so you do feel for NZ a bit. Would've been a bit of romance seeing Penney in a game 3.

Still, United's D got them there, locking down NZ down the stretch of Q4 after it looked like NZ were well placed for victory at one point.

Ultimately that's what I felt of NZ all season- not quite enough classy weapons. Solid team, well drilled, but They didn't quite have the elite talent to get through United's great D.

Adelaide though will present a different- and dare I say it, slightly more formidable- challenge

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Isaac  
Last year

Christmas -26 in an OT game. Meanwhile, Boone runs rampant for Melbourne. Hard to overcome that difference.

Very entertaining game though!

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Zodiac  
Last year

Boone destroyed Christmas tonight.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Game of the year. Boone for Prime Minister

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Anonymous  
Last year

PLEASE NBL, do not schedule both game 1 and game 3 on Friday nights when the majority have VJBL commitments. Please...

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Three to make two  
Last year

Boone was huge. But did he travel on that last possession? Only saw it once at game speed but it looked like he had a few steps/hops in gathering the ball before the shot?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Boone fumbled the ball, he never had possession until his jump stop

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mike  
Last year

wow - refs are terrible - Goulding and Ware look for a foul every play - offence and defence - was at the game - not sure how much was seen on camera but Goulding and Ware must have been on the floor 30 tims between them - poor Henare - took a technical and the game ends up a tie, but I can see why, as everybody in the stadium was predicting the flop before it happened and refs gave a foul every time - Boone was great - rest of Mel not So - Amercrobie had a terrible shooting night - thought breakers were far the better team - there are hardly any post up moves in NBL - players who cannot defend just hit the floor - leagUe is full of 3 pointer shooters and people giving screens, and guards who can get to the basket (or flop well ha ha - I think any big man import struggles - like netball or disney on ice compared to the NBA. I think PER VS MEL would have been physical and MEL vs ADL will b a high scoring shootout. Rant over - feel agreeved nearly every week with the refs.

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cavolo  
Last year

LV - 36ers a "slightly more formidable" challenge (assuming they make the GF)? I would suggest increasing the strength of the adjective used to describe how formidable the challenge will be ;P

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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

Is it possible for a team to 'limp to the championship'?

If so, that's United.

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Joshuapending  
Last year

Hate this result. Melbourne give us fits should we make the gf. They seem to have our number most of the time.

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Anonymous  
Last year

mike go back and watch that last play of regulation for a perfect example of the home cooking that NZ received. Melbourne were in foul trouble at least the last two quarters and overtime, while NZ had one foul. Makes things difficult, especially with you claiming that Melbourne had the refs in their pocket. And what was with the cheap shot the NZ scorers threw poor Chris, having three fouls on the scoreboard and he was actually on four? Poor form.

Perth-Adelaide will go to Game 3 and that will be tight. Expect them to hit back at home on Friday. Should be good.

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Hate this result. Melbourne give us fits should we make the gf. They seem to have our number most of the time. "

Wrong thread bruh. This is Melbourne-New Zealand.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Prather did not come off the entire 4th Q plus overtime.
No reason for him to not be starting over Moller.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Melbournes offence is not as functional with Goulding,Ware and Prather together, Prather got weary and Penny hit what could have been the winning three, his defence was ok, Moller was very good early when Melbourne kept turning the ball over but coach seems to stick with his stars.

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paul  
Last year

"Ultimately that's what I felt of NZ all season- not quite enough classy weapons. Solid team, well drilled, but They didn't quite have the elite talent to get through United's great D."

Big difference was Abercrombie stopped hitting shots after a very good start to the year. He shot 41% from 3pt in wins and 23% in losses. In the six-game losing streak to end the year he was 3/21 and 8/48 in last 12 games!

They couldn't survive losing his input. Without him spreading the floor their offence was very different, especially in fourth quarters where he has been big for them in recent years.

With Penney injured for much of the run home they just didn't have the wing power they did early in the year.

Given that, signing Christmas was probably the biggest thing that held them back, in hindsight they needed a more versatile player.






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Manu Fieldel  
Last year

That Breakers start to the Game reminded me of that Fremantle Dockers 'purple wall' prelim game against the Sydney Swans in 2013.

Amazing D. As good a period of intense D as you've seen from Perth at any point in the last decade

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Anonymous  
Last year

Last night's game showed me how much I am going to miss Kirk Penney. Amazing talent, amazing player. The league lost a great one. Thanks for the memories Kirk.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Paul


You are exactly right


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UseTaHoop  
Last year

Boone and his last basket.

He just imposed his will on the game and forced that sucker into the hoop. I thought it was a good microcosm of his whole game last night... and all his good games.

He doesn't have length or reliable foul shooting.

He does have strength, power, hops and a determined persistence to finish off near the basket. Boone is a colossus in the paint. Is there any other centre/ pf with this combo in the same quantity?

If ADL win, they could try Childress on him for crafty D. Childress could strip the ball a few times and lower his confidence levels. When Childress tires, bring on Hodgson for close guarding with hard fouls, not his usual stupid fouls. Wear him down. Johnson too soft except on rare occasions.

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koberulz  
Last year

That Newbill foul seemed smart at the time, but if he didn't commit it I'm not sure Melbourne would've got a particularly good look off.

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Tribe  
Last year

I was surprised that people thought it was a good foul. 2.7 seconds to go, Ware's only option was to attempt a 3 pointer under immense pressure.

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AKA  
Last year

Regarding the Newbill foul, you have got to play the %'s and make that play. Granted it didn't work out for NZ ultimately but fouling Ware in that instance was the right thing to do. Great call by the MU players on that last inbound play too. It looked like they called it themselves without going to Vickerman. Great leadership by Vickerman to let them do that too. Overall, a fantastic game by both teams and a tremendous advert for the league.

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LV  
Last year

Yeah good point Paul. Abercrombie certainly started well and then faded this year. Newbill turned out a lot better than I expected based on his modest resume, but with Penney slowing down and Abercrombie horribly out of form by year end, this made up for it.

I thought they needed more mobility from their bigs and this was evident in different ways in each game- Game 1 being exposed on the pick and rolls and also Casper taking them to the hoop. And Game 2 where they kept losing Boone on his cuts around the hoop.

Maybe if Delaney was fit they would've had more options. Also surprised they kept Christmas and sat Pledger so long yesterday.

Ultimately it's about playing well at this time of year. I'm glad we got a tight series as predicted.

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Anonymous  
Last year

You wouldn't know it being in Melbourne. At the sports bar at Crown I had to ask them to put TVs on it despite no other live events being on. Then once on no one ever even looked at the screens. Melbourne make a GF but no Melburnians care frankly.

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Camel 31  
Last year

Yes , great game , enjoyed it ..
(other than abercrombie disappointment .. didn't look like scoring....)

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Udog  
Last year

Melbourne now get a very decent break going into the GF series. If the other semi series goes to 3 games it stretches out even longer.

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Tribe  
Last year

Anon, its not a Melbourne thing. The NBL doesn't get much exposure, period.
In fairness, the win last night got a good run on the Herald Sun and a few other news outlets.

A couple colleagues at work who don't know anything about basketball have come up to me saying, 'i heard Melbourne won last night'

But yes, even if Melbourne win, they won't be plastered on the front pages. Probably only Cairns and Perth could do that.

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Anonymous  
Last year

I understand that Tribe.

But actually being in Melbourne and in a sports bar area it shocked me at how it is such a non-factor.

Don't get me wrong in Perth it's not a big deal either but people would look up at the screen and say "oh Wildcats are playing in a semi" but in Melbourne people weren't even doing that or what was on the screen didn't even register to them! It doesn't help "Melbourne United" is an ambigious name with no history either.

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Udog  
Last year

I still hate the fact that Melbourne United sounds like the local soccer team.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Exactly. If you say the name to people they will think "is that a soccer team?"

I understand why they chose United - to gather all the ex Tigers/Magic/Giants/Titans etc. fans together under a generic name but the problem is it is a common soccer club denonym.

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Anonymous  
Last year

United members received a text message with presale ticket details. Game 1: Friday 16th. Game 3: Friday 23rd. I have six front row endline tickets with the United bench directly in front of me that I have had for a few seasons which I will not be able to use due to VJBL commitments.

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Melbourne now get a very decent break going into the GF series. If the other semi series goes to 3 games it stretches out even longer."

Dates are set regardless of what happens in the other series, whoever it is playing. Tickets on sale at 4pm AEST

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Anonymous  
Last year

Pro sport doesn't take a back seat to juniors. What world do you live in?

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Anonymous  
Last year

What happened with the Sosa technical foul in the first half. I was at the game and it looked like a very soft call. Would have liked to have seen the reply. Was it?

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Anonymous  
Last year

Link to short video clip of last few seconds of game winner? Thanks.

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Tom  
Last year

Penny! Class act......

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Anonymous  
Last year

"Pro sport doesn't take a back seat to juniors. What world do you live in?"

So why are games not scheduled at 4am? Because no one would go. Without the fans there is no pro sport, dumbass.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Correct pro sport revolves around the fans' sleeping patterns NOT junior sport. Your point?

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Anonymous  
Last year

#193 4am is a great time for live sport! What a brilliant marketing ploy, IDIOT.

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Anonymous  
Last year

Man the Adelaide comprehension is running rampant in this thread. Wow.

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DaAnswer  
Last year

Awesome game, done and dusted, but am still disappointed this didn't go to a game 3! Credit 2 individual performances that killed the Breakers, really did sum up their season - started so well (both games), only to fall flat at the final siren. Really think the Breakers 'forgot how to win', no killer instinct - last 5-6 games they were up and 4th quarters killed them.

End of regulation Sosa trying to be the hero, had Loe open on Ware and on the rebound a wide open Penny who had been on fire! Were they better going for the Ili drive? Goulding charge or flop?

Thought Christmas did some nice things, but was a liability in OT and Boone's final putback... on replay I thought he did travel - but impossible for refs to call that!

Now to decide who to support for finals!!

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