robt
Last month

Wright's comment about replacing locals vs imports

Not sure what to make of this attitude, repeatedly heard today on ABC news. Joey saying that he is stuck with his locals. Why so? Not saying that he should replace some, just asking the difference.

Next, who would he replace and with whom?

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Isaac  
Last month

Imports paid monthly and can usually be cut free by a certain point. Locals have to be paid out.

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LoveBroker  
Last month

I didn't view this article, but most coaches would kill to have Wright's Australian contingent.

Who is Joey 'stuck with' (connotation being he'd here but I don't want him'?

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Master Chief  
Last month

Oh yeah I'm sure Joey is just so outraged to pick up Conger at the expense of DeLeon when the team is under pressure. I know that's missing his point a little and I'm sure it's a rev up to his team to lift as much as anything, but where has this been before regarding all the over imports he's cut/have been cut?

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Anonymous  
Last month

He could have been "stuck" with Creek if his NBA gig didn't work out but the club kinda stuffed him over on that one.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I think this was just adding to the subliminal message that cutting Adris was a decision by the front office that he did not agree on.

Not that he wants to cut anyone else, but the fact his hands are tied.

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Food for thought  
Last month

Yeah the usual line from Joey is that an import didn't work out. This time he's basically blamed the Aussies for it, because Deleon is his mate. But having said that, there are definitely Aussies on the team not pulling their weight. And I also agree that there should be some expectation that Australian players turn up or get turned down.

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Master Chief  
Last month

Food for thought, and replace them from where though?

Was it a decision by the front office? I thought Joey had total control. Either way they've improved the roster and given fans something to look forward to.

Ironically, DeLeon actually started to do what most hoped he'd do and that's penetrate and make plays in that game against Sydney. Couple that with the occasional scoring explosion and he is doing his role. Can't pass up Conger though.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Reading between the lines I think a couple of Australians are being paid and aren't performing to it.

A couple of players would’ve got pay increases this year. But DeLeon is reportedly the lowest paid import this year.

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Food for thought  
Last month

Replace them with imports possibly. As the league grows we need to loosen import restrictions

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Anonymous  
Last month

No we don't. Do you ever think before typing?

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paul  
Last month

"And I also agree that there should be some expectation that Australian players turn up or get turned down."

There is. There are only about 50 Australians in the league, not many spots for poor performers.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Joey's going to the NBA according to Joey. Nothing to see here. Perhaps the 6'ers are really broke?

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Proud  
Last month

So Adelaide have the reigning All NBL first teamer in DJ, stud (supposedly) import in Wylie and the next Kevin Garnett in Majok Deng... its obvious that Joey is upset about having to try and find minutes for Harry Froling

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Perthworld  
Last month

The problem is once in the NBL locals do get complacent. It's human nature if you know you're untouchable during the season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'd feel the same way if I had Teys on my roster...

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paul  
Last month

Untouchable? Please, if you're playing poorly your minutes drop and your future employment is in jeopardy. Don't drink Joey's kool aid.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I don't think FFT and Perthworld have ever watched a game between them.

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Food for thought  
Last month

Not sure why we'd split shifts watching a game. Maybe your concentration span is poor or something.

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Perthworld  
Last month

paul - sign a two/three year deal, chillax at the beginning, just do enough and turn it up in the contract year.

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Food for thought  
Last month

There are plenty of guys in the league who either shouldn't have a contract, or shouldn't have a contract at the pay rate their in, or shouldn't be playing the minutes they're playing. As the league expands the need to up import quotas to maintain and improve the standard of the league becomes paramount. You could probably make an entire team of guys in the NBL who should barely even be paid to play the game, and we're about to add another team to the league, which suggests to me there will be more of them (and yes, of course some good ones too). I think that needs to be nipped in the ass.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Perhaps Joey shouldn't have kept hacks like, larkins, Doyle and Teys on his roster, although Teys has been playing ok

Drmic is a bench player at best and sobey is being shown up as he isn’t really that good

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Anon  
Last month

Joey talks about comfortable Aussies. He's created this himself. Long term deals for players of the calibre of Teys Doyle McVey send a very poor message all around. More imports is not the answer, the quality of imports is not great outside of the top few.

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Look Joey is just sticking up for his boy Deleon but what I also take from this is his expected more output from deng and drimic. They had to take the next step up this season to be championship contender and they haven't.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Whilst Sobey has great moments and huge highlights, is he really that consistent star you can rely on. Hate him or not, Goulding is always a danger, Martin is always the best defender and leader in court, etc. Maybe time has run out for Sobey to go to NBA but his athleticism is up there for his position and could make a few plays in garbage time that could make highlights. But he's not a player you can depend on week in week out. What Adelaide is missing is someone like Creek who might not be firing on offence but will always be depended on to battle. Joey has benched Sobey many times in the past, personally I think it's him being referred to because he hasn't made that next step into all nbl consideration. Drmic and Deng are scorers primarily, defence won't keep them out there. Pity they haven't got an energy guy on the bench, they even went with BJ against Brisbane the other week to fire them up.
Love Joey but really think his development players are really odd selections, Hoffman, Deng etc. They'll never make an nbl roster, all they are are training players. Some can't even play at premier league level, surely there are some kids like a Adnam that can come on and maybe change the complexion of the game. Like the old days of Brett Wheeler and the Wild Thing chant, Scotty Ninnis etc.

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D2.0  
Last month

I would have thought he is simply pointing out to the general public, what to us is obvious.
That its easy to replace imports, because there are thousands to choose from, but replacing locals of any quality if extremely difficult, especially mid season.

So Therefore, whilst (in his mind) Deleon may not have been the worst underperformer, he was the easiest to replace.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Maybe recruit a guy in the background and bring him in ONCE you have him. Surely it's not Joey. Loved De Leons heart warming speech to about never being sacked as a professional in 15 years. I was surprised it hadn't happened earlier ;)

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Pop  
Last month

Ye, Majok Deng [to be clear] seems to have gone backwards this season, but on the flip side he's not getting much of a chance to settle into a game or role. And bringing in another forward is hardly going to help that.

On the topic of forwards, I also wonder about McVeigh [what is going on there?] and with Conger coming in I'd suggest he'll be getting even more splinters and less court time, if that is possible.

And beware looking for Sobey to become the 'go to' man. Looked to me like he tried that a couple of [home] games ago and suddenly the offence [such as it was] shut down even more and no-one else saw the ball.

These boys really need someone to control the offence [which does not mean walk the ball down the court] and to distribute the ball. Some genuine [general] on-court leadership wouldn't go astray either. Sadly I can't see where that is going to come from with this group and I don't think you can buy it mid-season, though hopefully I'm wrong.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Didn't Joey pick the locals he wanted and the offer of dollars to be paid to them. Obviously he has made a bad decision on 1 or 2 in his eyes.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So who was the expert that tipped Adel to be bottom? Hope you put some money on that call ;)

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Camel 31  
Last month

boti just reminded me that we got hodge here mid november for 100k a month....
deleon was a patsy....

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Anonymous  
Last month

chump is a better word.

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FM  
Last month

Whilst Larkins sits on our bench and travels interstate, I don't Joey has a point. He basically employed a plumber to try and do an electricians job.

Interesting Larkins mum came to the defence that basketballers need job security. Pitty it only happens in Australian basketball. Everywhere else, you don't play well, you ride pine. New player becomes available you leave.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Must have enormous admiration for coach W. When things are not going well he appears to have
the ability to distract and deflect.

What's he come up with so far this season:

It's the players fault,

It's the referees fault,

And now, it's the NBLs fault because they wont let him sack whoever he likes, when he likes.

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Anonymous  
Last month

i want to know who pays for his daughter to sit court side in brisbane with eddy betts

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Anonymous  
Last month

So let's say you can replace Australians like imports....who is he possibly going to get that is available and better than what he has? Piss and wind and deflection.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Yeah I think people are taking what Joey said too seriously he's just pissed off that his buddy Deleon got cut and likely against his wishes and Joey probably loved how hard Deleon worked and doesn't like how a few of the locals don't work as hard as he did.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yes, they are certainly up shit 'Creek'

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Beantown  
Last month

I think Joey was just sending a tough message to some of his under-performing players. Nothing more than that.

Zodiac, why do you think replacing DeLeon with Conger would have been against Joey's wishes? Surely he would have been on board with the change before management acted? I think its more likely he just respects DeLeon and wishes he didn't have to cut him, but knows he has to, save the Sixers season.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Beantown, Logically I would've thought so too but after watching that whole five minute presser when he made these comments he looked completely miserable.

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Beantown  
Last month

Fair enough. I didn't watch the entire presser. But from what I saw he was just disappointed that DeLeon had to make way. It’s possible he’s both sad for DeLeon and in agreement with management that a new import was required.

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KET  
Last month

Miserable at how bad the 36ers are playing, ie Johnson isn't firing up, Deng and Drmic aren't to be found and generally our defence is a new level of "horrific".

We get smashed down low, we get smashed up high, we get smashed everywhere on D.

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Anonymous  
Last month

He's probably sad they he hired a cheap import hoping he would excel. But he's NBA bound. Or off to Sydney to continue Jeff's shithouse hirings.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Didn't Deng have a pretty serious injury in the Winter season? Could he be still getting back to his best?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Deng ankle

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Anonymous  
Last month

Each Nbl team should align with the second grade competition and then players can be dropped and have two way players so they can keep getting minutes.

Hopefully the unisports league will help build our competition.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Um 2nd tier currently play winter. Slight problem.

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