Anonymous
Last month

Have SEM won over United fans?

Early days but seems like SEM Pheonix have won over a large majoirty of Melbounre United fans? After all SEM is the heartland of basketball in Victoria

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bring back the tigers

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Zodiac  
Last month

Phoenix got 10k to their game United only got 6.5k the next day United would have to be concerned about that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

To be fair, United were playing the Wildcats, so most united melbourians knew a loss was the most likely outcome.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Ouch!

Wait until United drop down the ladder, then their fans will jump ship to SEM.

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Aussie  
Last month

I think you will find that Phoenix got over 10k mainly due to Ball being in town

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Lovebroker  
Last month

Could SEM overtake United? Yes.

But not in Year 1, United have the names and success behind them.

Hopefully both teams can form a synergy where collectively they will have a fan base of say, 8,000 attending fans each.

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Anonymous  
Last month

They have, but the bigger question is
Can sem win the NBL championship

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STHEaster  
Last month

It's a question I’ve thought about. I still think the rebrand has hurt them.

There are a chunk of tigers fans who can’t fathom to back them again. A number have joined SEM. Then there are people who have always supporter SEM Magic, Titans, dragons etc who could never jump across because they saw them as the tigers in disguise.

Then there are plenty who watched but weren’t passionate, if you’re on the SEM pages you’ll see they’ve come across. Not sure they have as large as a rusted on support base as people think. Couple that with they gave away a lot of tickets in the early years - I think they’re shaky.

United will come good this year, but if they have a few down years and SEM are flying - I can see them overtaking United. Especially if they don’t permanently relocate to the SBC

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Anonymous  
Last month

Phoenix have comped over half their tickets for their games this season
Not a bad thing, I like the thinking, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Melb United is a pricier NBL ticket and SEM is currently alot of free bees.
1 year on will be the huge test for me

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Anonymous  
Last month

Free Bees? Bold marketing strategy.

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STHEaster  
Last month

Also worth noting that the first home game for the Phoenix the crowd was closer to 4K, not the over 6k they said.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Official crowd figures are usually attendance + paid ticket holders that didn't attend.

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STHEaster  
Last month

I doubt the Phoenix even have 2k members little alone 2k of them not attending their first home game....

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Anonymous  
Last month

United still have the feel of a sterile club from its colours to it's name. Tigers will always have the hearts of former fans.

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Zodiac  
Last month

I doubt the Phoenix even have 2k members little alone 2k of them not attending their first home game....


Okay well lets go with your theory that they fudged the official crowd figures by 2k then.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Bring back the tigers!!!

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LV  
Last month

Thats absolutely awesome that Phoenix got 10k- surprising but awesome!

As one example, many of you old forum people might remember Tigesgal from back in the day, led the Tigers cheer squad from around 2001 - 2005 ish

Detests Kestleman. Probably hasnt been to an NBL game in years.

Is all over Facebook lately, she's right into the Phoenix.

Maybe there are a few more like her.

Not at all worried about United getting 6500 though- the 4:40pm AFL games always get terrible crowds, I have no idea why they were stupid enough to try a 5pm Sunday game. Hopefully that's a once off experiment.

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Zodiac  
Last month

Just got to get her to convince Cram now he's already worn out his LK voodoo doll.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I was a long-time tigers fan and was devastated over the decision but I'm now a proud united supporter. I’d never switch to Phoenix - to me, south east Melbourne have always been the enemy

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Anon  
Last month

Sadly, Tigers brand has been run down and may not be able to be brought back to life.

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Cram  
Last month

"Just got to get her to convince Cram now he's already worn out his LK voodoo doll"

Zero chance.

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Cram  
Last month

"Official crowd figures are usually attendance + paid ticket holders that didn't attend"

More like attendance + paid or unpaid ticket holders that didn't attend

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Anonymous  
Last month

Tigers won't be back as they owe the Gaze family lots of money. By rebranding they were able to get out of paying them.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The combination of Lamelo playing and children under 12 getting in free was always going to boost numbers. As a United fan (grew up in the South East) even I was going to attend to see Lamelo. The real test will be when teams like the Taipans or 36ers come to town.

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Mat  
Last month

United have nothing to worry about.

They played 5pm Sunday - a horrid time for Melbourne teams across all codes. Melbourne City played across the road and only got 7,500 in a 30,000 seat stadium, kicking off an hour earlier.

Phoenix played in the prime timeslot, with free entry for kids and played against the future NBA #1 pick - they were always going to get a cracking crowd to this one.

Like the post says above, let's see what crowd they pull when they play Brisbane and Cairns.

SEM will average about 7,000 - 8,000 and Utd will average about 9,000

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Tigers won't be back as they owe the Gaze family lots of money. By rebranding they were able to get out of paying them."

How? Changing your trading name doesn't absolve you of your financial obligations.

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Isaac  
Last month

"Just got to get her to convince Cram now he's already worn out his LK voodoo doll"

Zero chance.
Zero chance that you'll follow a new team, or wear out the voodoo doll?

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Cram  
Last month

Haha...well...

Nah yeah won't be following any new team in the league the way it currently stands.

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Lovebroker  
Last month

I was a long-time tigers fan and was devastated over the decision but I'm now a proud united supporter



How can you not be when Gaze's, Gordon's, Giddey's, Copeland's singlets are hanging next to the United Championship banner?

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Shayno  
Last month

Bring back the giants

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Cram  
Last month

" was a long-time tigers fan and was devastated over the decision but I'm now a proud united supporter



How can you not be when Gaze's, Gordon's, Giddey's, Copeland's singlets are hanging next to the United Championship banner?"

Because those jersies hanging is pure farce.

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Kas  
Last month

Tigers member since 1992 - also devastated when they suddenly changed to United - thought about not joining United - as Andrew Gaze was the reason I started following basketball - but then I thought what he would really want is for people to support the Australian basketball league - so I have supported United since they started.

I have heard of some people saying they might swap to Phoenix - but I think they are most likely fans who have only been with United for a short time.

No way I would support Phoenix - they are SEM Magic/Titans/Dragons to me - but great for the competition.

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Cram  
Last month

Fair call Kas. Not for me.

I can't reward someone for coming in and throwing away a team's identity on a whim just to support a for profit league.

I continue to support Australian basketball at the WNBL, international and state league level, but while the same people are involved with the NBL I won't be supporting that league.

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