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Earlier this year

NBL1 Expands To North and South Conferences

NBL1 Expands To North And South Conferences
Following the success of its inaugural season, NBL1 is set to expand with the establishment of North and South conferences in 2020.

After a landmark agreement with Basketball Queensland, NBL1 North will replace the Queensland Basketball League (QBL) and there will be 13 clubs in the men's and women’s league.

Participating clubs will be Cairns Marlins and Dolphins, Townsville Heat and Flames, Rockhampton Rockets and Cyclones, Mackay Meteors and Meteorettes, Southern District Spartans, Sunshine Coast Phoenix, University of Sunshine Coast Rip, Brisbane Capitals, Logan Thunder, South West Metro Pirates, Gold Coast Rollers, Ipswich Force and Toowoomba Mountaineers.



Basketball Victoria and the Hungry Jack’s NBL launched the 18 team men’s and women’s NBL1 in 2019 and that conference will be called NBL1 South for the forthcoming season.

Participating clubs will be Albury-Wodonga Bandits, Ballarat Miners and Rush, Bendigo Braves, Dandenong Rangers, Diamond Valley Eagles, Eltham Wildcats, Frankston Blues, Geelong Supercats, Hobart Chargers, Kilsyth Cobras, Knox Raiders, North West Thunder and Launceston Tornadoes, Melbourne Tigers, Mount Gambier Pioneers, Nunawading Spectres, Ringwood Hawks, Sandringham Sabres and Waverley Falcons.



NBL Chief Operating Officer Andy Crook said: "We are excited to announce the establishment of NBL1 North and NBL1 South conferences.

“This is a genuine partnership between the NBL, Basketball Queensland and Basketball Victoria and we look forward to the great rivalries that’s set to develop between the conferences.

“We are also in active discussions with Basketball South Australia, Basketball Western Australia and Basketball New South Wales about introducing the NBL1 concept in those states."

NBL1 South will tip off on Saturday April 18 while NBL1 North will begin a week later on Friday April 24.

NBL1 South and NBL1 North will hold conference finals in August, before an NBL1 finals series will be played on the first weekend of September with conference champions from NBL1 South and NBL1 North at the State Basketball Centre in Victoria. Further details of the NBL1 finals series will be announced soon.

The NBL1 North logo will have a maroon colour while the NBL1 South logo will be navy blue, creating a connection between the conferences and their main state.

CLICK HERE FOR NBL1 NORTH AND NBL1 SOUTH LOGOS AND FIXTURES

Basketball Queensland Chief Executive and Secretary Graham Burns said: “We can’t wait for the inaugural NBL1 North season and look forward to the growth the league will have under the NBL’s banner.

“Basketball Victoria and the NBL did an incredible job with NBL1 in 2019 and we are thrilled to be involved and continue the positive momentum.”

Basketball Victoria CEO Nick Honey said: “It’s exciting to see the next phase of NBL1’s expansion begin this year with NBL1 becoming NBL1 South.

“From where Basketball Victoria and the NBL started last year, it’s brilliant to see the model expand to other states.”

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Aussie  
Earlier this year


"We are also in active discussions with Basketball South Australia, Basketball Western Australia and Basketball New South Wales about introducing the NBL1 concept in those states."

Does anyone know if these leagues will become apart of NBL1 for the coming season?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Doubt it, next season maybe.

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robt  
Earlier this year

The text here makes this sound official. Hallelujah! Thank you.

Gives full list of teams for both North & South conferences.
Dates they start comp
That there will be a full play-off series between N & S (not expected in first year).

Rules on recruitment of restricted NBL/Import players still not clear to me.

*heard 2 views. That the rules would,
1. change to allow for additional restricted player if he/she is Australian(?) and,
2. stay as is for a year or 2.

I have been under the impression that we, in Qld, would stay with 2 restricted players (option 2. above) till we can catch up financially with our southern rivals. So, if our southern rivals are allowed the extra restricted player, and we are not (option, 1.) that will present an obvious imbalance during the final final's series.

Anyone know about that?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No Canberra team?

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KET  
Earlier this year

Highly unlikely to be for the coming season, but you'd imagine next season would see it happen or season after at the latest. The staggered integration makes complete sense: get the foundations right, expand, make sure it is stable, expand again.

The NBL is showing its savvy smart side by engaging in this, and it is showing it means business in respect of basketball as a whole.

There's an effective consolidation of: NBL as the professional league, NBL1 as the top district league and key Australian pathway to the NBL.

The league running costs are likely consolidated and shared instead of duplication of roles and costs - that's perfect synergy - and gives NBL1 league/clubs better access to decent media and marketing people, as well as the ability for the NBL to leverage for better visibility for partners/sponsors: HJs, Bunnings etc.

Ultimately, there's likely a bit more sync in respect of ultimate direction and hopefully utility of government funding that's more likely received by NBL1 clubs opposed to the NBL itself.

The NBL as part of its media arm should try to design and provide a platform for each state league and its clubs. Try to take those costs away as best possible.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I've heard they've made a change to allow for 3 restricted players, granted one of them is Australian.

Melbourne have already singed 3 restricted players in Pineau, Naar and Wells (import).

Still not exactly sure though.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The above article is an official press release from the NBL, confirming the league's expansion.

Official article here:
https://nbl1.com.au/news/article/nbl1-expands-to-north-and-south-conferences

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WA Baller  
Earlier this year

Basketball Wa have spoken to SBL clubs and I'll be expecting an announcement very coon

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The only issue with this is it reduces the number of championship teams. EG. there isn't a QBL or NBL1 (from last year) champion anymore. So there will just be 1 champion from the east coast.

I guess clubs can celebrate being the conference champion? But that doesn't have the same meaning.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

How is nbl 1 south any different to the old seabl. There are teams from tazzy, vic and south australia. It seems the new vision forward lasted all of one season

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

(I guess clubs can celebrate being the conference champion? But that doesn't have the same meaning.)

Yes it does......hold your judgment until after the season......then you can have a cry.

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Reality  
Earlier this year

This will hopefully long term become a true second tier and have a very larger cash spinning national tourney play off game/weekend which since the old ABA championship days has been sorely missed.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

should get nbl women up and running, wnbl a joke.

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Grovermister  
Earlier this year

anon 600

really?

how is wnbl a joke?

do enlighten us...

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koberulz  
Earlier this year

Basketball Wa have spoken to SBL clubs and I'll be expecting an announcement very coon
Surely this announcement means no further expansion this year? I wouldn't be surprised if there's an announcement in the near future that other states will join from 2021, but if there were a chance of other leagues joining for the 2020 season you'd imagine they'd want to incorporate that into the playoff structure. Not to mention that we're only a month or two out from seasons starting.

If anything further is announced for 2020 it would surely have to be an in-name-only thing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I believe that the draw will be out today?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

(do enlighten us...)


You can only enlighten oneself

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anon  
Earlier this year

Released....

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ybig40ks3rjvnt5/AADZjch63befYkHUzvtwBZRBa?dl=0

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Reality,

Can you explain why the old ABA championship is sorely missed. Until they equalise by-laws etc around restricted players in particular it will be a farce and do a disservice to the year end championship tournament

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LC  
Earlier this year

WA have a board meeting later this month. SBL has already released fixture. Combined, means it is more likely NBL1 West will happen in 2021.

There will still be a South Champion and a North Champion this season.

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anon  
Earlier this year

Confirmed NSW joining 2021 as NBL East, this year being used as transition to prep for the next by getting all the teams logistically ready

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anon  
Earlier this year

I believe it shouldn't be that difficult to get a comentator, live stream going and a few of the other things within a couple months, we could potentially see other leagues joining as rebranding first then all in next year in revamping

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West Is Best  
Earlier this year

WA and SA are both a strong possibility for 2020.
The schedule that has been released is for each NBL1 conference only. It doesn't include the national finals.
Both conference finals are on the same weekend and the WASBL is scheduled the weekend before.

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anon  
Earlier this year

The next step for NBL1 would be to get the games televised, the channel doesn't matter or even if it were on SBSonDemand, it would increase the exposure of the league to broader audiences

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

SA = NBL1 Central?

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KET  
Earlier this year

What would NSW be?

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anon  
Earlier this year

yep SA confirmed to be NBL1 Central

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KET  
Earlier this year

QLD: NBL1 North
NSW: NBL1 MidEast
Vic/Tas: NBL1 South
SA: NBL1 Central
WA: NBL1 West

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anon  
Earlier this year

I'm hearing also the main delays for most states is the registration costs for the clubs to enter into the NBL1 being higher than their current rego fees, so even though NBL1 meetings are taking place with the remaining state leagues the league fees are putting teams off as well as the extra cost for being compliant i.e. streaming, commentators etc.

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anon  
Earlier this year

COO of the NBL said talks are close to finalising all 3 other states to join in with NBL1 structure, we could be surprisingly hearing an announcement soon that they will be rebranding

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

BNSW are working with the associations to transition to NBL1 in 2021, could have happened this year but due to the massive hike in fees the clubs felt it would be to big of a hit to grass roots funding with a quick change over even though BNSW where trying to ram it through for this year... after objections from the clubs it was agreed to transition over to NBL1 once logistically ready in 2021.

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anon  
Earlier this year

I wonder if the NBL will step in and assist (money wise etc.) to push all the leagues moving into the NBL1 infrastructure this year

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anon  
Earlier this year

Essentially just doing the name rebrand and deal with the rest of the stuff next year

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anon  
Earlier this year

I don't see how these clubs struggle financially where juniors are paying close to $700-800 a season at fair few clubs and are being told to pay extra for club gear at some

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

No ... the model did allow for some sort of revenue sharing from marketing but was abit pie in the sky stuff.

The bulk of the costs fall squarely on the clubs. NBL1 does offer (if you pay) increased social media and profile for the clubs under various packages.

Basically for our club it reflected a doubling of costs to field mens and womens senior teams.

i cant remember the exact $$$ involved but of course it is a money making exercise for the NBL but it is the right direction modernising and professionalising the NSW clubs.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

I can assure no one outside of maybe 2 clubs in sydney are making money ... at best are breaking even!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

You can change the name but Nsw will still be shit league, bnsw just charge ridiculous fees to clubs that players won't get paid.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

BNSW is a strange organisation, recently they have tried to modernise but along the way feels like it has also seen itself as an organisation pushing social issues.

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anon  
Earlier this year

The NSW league isn't that bad there are some solid players still running around in the league. Apparently the re branding massively benefited Victoria, could it potentially assist to improve the league in the other states moneywise or is it just all in the exposure and nothing else

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anon  
Earlier this year

BNSW is poorly run, needs to improve on live streaming all games and providing better exposure for the players in the league

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

The league isn't bad ... just amateur. NBL1 gives NSW the prospect of becoming more organised and more professional.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

BNSW doesnt live stream, the cost for this is on the clubs. BNSW had proposed to do live streaming but couldnt get organised to do it properly so allot of the clubs did this themselves.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

next to be announced, NBL1 West, NBL1 Central, and NBL1 East.

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robt  
Earlier this year

Just love it! Wrote another novelette on why and as usual, turned into a waffle, so deleted it all. I'm just wrapt (I think that that's the right "wrapt"?).

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Mentioned on NBL overtime
Should/will Terry Armstrong play nbl1

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Rapt is the word as in rapture.

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Wang whipper  
Earlier this year

No NSW or Canberra = EPIC FAIL

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^Watch this space

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl nt in central or north conference? Or not at all...

Centre of excellence needed per conference.

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robt  
Earlier this year

Thanks, Perthworld.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

CoE will be in NBL1 East. No NT teams now or likely ever

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Need a conferencdfe based coe, a lot leave coe because they fmiss familiy. Wont have to do that if you play in your state conference.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Might be an idea that the dropbox schedule actually fits on a piece of a4 paper, and it might be an idea that the NBL1 web page has the 2020 fixture on their site rather than last seasons.
These are simple things that don't take a lot of effort and are so, so amateurish.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

One of the few times Perthworld is correct so he is rapt to be able to correct someone.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

^Wow you have a sad life troll

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Bear  
Earlier this year

Nice to see this concept finally gaining the legs I was hoping it would years ago, this is the type of semi-professional and professional cooperative business and sporting arrangement that can give the game the boost it deserves on a national scale.

The potential here is huge, my only concern is that someone will get carried away with it and try to bring in an Asian influence, some Asian based teams or an overseas concept far too early and wreck what essentially should stay an Australian National competition, hope not, just a concern...

At this stage, it's a bravo from me!

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Is Gladstone the only qbl club that isn't participating?

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

COE Canberra Team, anyone know what's the go

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

North Gold Coast Seahawks expected in NBL1 next year.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

post 647 ."Apparently the re branding massively benefited Victoria" if you mean basketball victoria then of course it does!

why would they run the league if it didnt benefit them?

entry fees for clubs is 33K! plus referee cost of almost 5k.

teams still have to meet there own streaming costs etc etc.

interested to know what the entry fees are for the qld teams?

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Anon  
Earlier this year

There are no NBL1 'entry fees'. Fake news.

If that happened with the original NBL1, that was a Basketball Vic thing.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nbl1 u19 npp, North, South, East, Central, West needed. Not sitting on the bench for club teams.

Coe should be Elite aus players only, u15 through to u19 teams. Essentially it would be the Australian junior side in nbl1 east along with nsw/act npp u19 team.

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LC  
Earlier this year

BA CoE in Waratah League for 2020

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

its not "fake news" they are the costs if you want to enter a club in nbl1 south the basketball victoria league. its increased by 3k this year due to an increase in the number of games.

is the cost for qbl clubs to enter their teams the same as it was last year? or has there been an increase?

posts above talk about costs doubling for qbl teams and thats why some didnt take up the opportunity. is this the entry costs increase or was it the cost for meeting nbl1 requirements?

just curious.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Nsw Waratah league players pay to play at most clubs, a few grand for the privilege. I can't see how it’s going to work in Nsw even though it would be great.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Interesting read on the North Conference being included into the CBA back in November 1993

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/127525323

Let's see how long NBL1 North lasts

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Perthworld  
Earlier this year

Great find.

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Perthworld's big brother  
Earlier this year

Well spotted.
Good find.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

All quiet about SA joining NBL 1. Has that fallen through

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Talk is quiet, and so it should be. Let them do their jobs and negotiate the best sitauation for their leagues. Show some patience...

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Talk in Sydney is that BNSW has said no. Too expensive for everyone.
Now there is talk about making it cheaper. The talks will happen in a few weeks apparently.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Make it cheaper... does than then reduce the standard? Isn't the dream to have an elite second tier? Time the state with the biggest population started to get serious about the sport.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Basketball nsw has always charged clubs max, by pass them if possible. Twenty years ago the Waratah league was a good competition, now it's rubbish.

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Anonymous  
Earlier this year

Making it cheaper to get in. Being competitive is also an issue too. The aim of the club I spoke to is to develop their youth talent. The point was made " we won a championship and got a flag" so what! Which they did back when they were in the CBA.

Any club entering the NBL1 should want to win it. That's where they don't want to waste their money and go broke.

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LC  
Earlier this year

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