In the games I've seen him play he's looked good when he's been aggressive but for the most part doesn't get a huge amount of touches. Mannion is the guy with the ball in his hands for most of the offense, and Zeke Naji has been more effective than expected inside.

I still think he'll declare and go mid to late first round. I think he's done enough and there's always the risk that he ends up looking worse next season with a lesser point guard and higher usage rate.

In my opinion, he is probably over-performing... Those stats for a freshman in a power 5 school and tough conference are impressive.

He was over-hyped prior to college and expectations of him coming in and being a 20/10 player were unrealistic.

He is very active and aggressive but is still learning to play, and developing his left hand and shooting

Those are great stats he plays for a top program has like 6 All Americans on his team what do you want from this guy. LOL

His team is stacked and nationally ranked he is doing well.

Anyone who thinks Josh Green is not going first round in this year's draft is dreaming.

ESPN mock draft 2020: Josh Green on edge of lottery, Ball and Hampton slide

As mentioned above, those stats are good when you consider he is playing for a massive program.

Look at all the good players who came through Duke and UNC etc. with probably similar freshman averages. The teams are so built with talent that not everyone can put up 20ppg.

When guys like Kevin Durant, Jimmer Fredette, Trae Young, Steph Curry were putting up massive numbers for their programs it was because: (a) generally their programs weren't big and/or were very talented; and accordingly (b) those guys got a lot of shoot opportunities - basically a green light - because them shooting was better than Jack Smith, the walk on from down the road, shooting 3's.

LC - I don't think anyone here claims that Green will not go in the first round, I certainly believe so. Is he a lottery pick? Personally I don't think so based what he has shown although this is a very weak class so he may get in. And this is one of the reason why he should declare.
For someone who was highly touted as the next best thing after Ben, he did not show anything spectacular. He is indeed a very good athlete, great defender but below par a perimeter shooter (he plays 2/3), at least based on a limited sample size so far. I certainly hope he will improve this element. His team although stacked has underperformed, not Green personally in most segments of the game, they are no longer ranked, mainly because they don't play as a team but as a bunch of individuals, HS mentality.

The opening post claims he will not be drafted this year, suggesting he returns to college next season!

The thing with Green is that he was all the physical attributes, and does the tough things others often do not do i.e. work hard and plays D. The upside he has is huge, as he has a solid stroke already that is likely to only get better as he matures.

Back to bed Curtly you've been smacked down!

Anon #222, you obviously didnt see the "or" in my sentence:

"generally their programs weren't big and/or were very talented;"

Reading obviously isn't your forte - room-temperature IQ.