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What happened to SBL and NBl1?

I have heard from many sources now that the reason the SBL is not changing to NBL1 West is because half of the clubs didn't want the change.

Who do we think these clubs are and do you think it just makes us look bad over in the west that we aren’t willing to adapt or change?

Thoughts?

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Anonymous  
Last month

What were the changes proposed? Besides having a new name

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Anonymous  
Last month

And wa will fall behind.

But what you are saying isn't quite right.

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Anonymous  
Last month

From another thread:

Lukosius
Earlier this week

As a club representative, I was involved with the comprehensive discussions between the NBL and the WA SBL back in November and December. And they were comprehensive. And I can assure you that simply 'rebranding' as NBL1 will not send the clubs broke. And that is what it is - a rebrand. As others have said, if a club gets into financial difficulties after the change to NBL1, they (1) probably already had financial instability beforehand or (2) it happened due to mismanagement.

There was to be some small infrastructure costs, mainly relating to live streaming and signage, but that's about it. There are no NBL1 'fees' for example. In fact the clubs won't be paying the NBL anything. The upside to this is the possible distribution of $$$ generated by sports betting agreements in place between the NBL and some betting agencies. Eventually these funds would be distributed back to the states.

In the case of the WA SBL (and I assume also the PL and QBL), not much was to change in relation to the management and general running of the league. It was still to be managed and run by the SBL (Basketball WA), but with a different name. SBL playoffs also wouldn't change, nor would the SBL grand final weekend. In fact, apart from the re-branding and the 'national champs' weekend at the end of the season, you wouldn't notice the difference in a lot of ways.

The reason why the SBL didn't join for 2020 was more about uncertainty relating to signage, and the speed in which this all happened. Also the SBL plays the most games out of all the 2nd-tier leagues and consequently starts before all the other leagues, so we had a shorter timeframe to come to a decision, which some clubs used as a valid reason for holding off until 2021. In addition some clubs wanted to have a 'sit and watch' approach in relation to the QBL (and now PL) joining in 2020.

Half to two-thirds of the SBL clubs were in favour of joining this year, but the SBL decided that without a 100% positive consensus from all 14 clubs, the best decision was to hold off until 2021. My club was 100% in favour and we are disappointed that it isn't happening. But we also understand the reasons why some clubs have balked at it for 2020, and we subsequently accept the SBL's decision to postpone for 12 months.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh well their loss. WA can stay years behind

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Anonymous  
Last month

^yep and nsw

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Anonymous  
Last month

Opportunity lost for sure!
Especially as SA now in, so we get left behind and banded as a 3rd tier league with NSW Waratah league which is pathetic!
BWA should have said if you dont want to be in NBL1 West then you are out which may have been a good way of rationalizing teams (there are a couple that really need to go) and help shorten season to keep in line with ither NBL1 schedules.
Also end of year national champ weekend for top teams would have been good and could give good exposure for some young WA players form NBL teams.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Adam Forde views!

https://twitter.com/coachadamforde/status/1227100247081377794

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Anonymous  
Last month

Who's Adam Ford? Any relation to Henry?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Couple of concerning words, "small" infrastructure costs and money "eventually" finds its way to state league teams.

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Anonymous  
Last month

WA. Wait Awhile

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Anonymous  
Last month

Pretty tough for some WA clubs to change over in such a short timeframe. SBL starts earlier than the other leagues and there just wasn't enough of a lead up for the change this coming season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

What is there to change over?

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Anonymous  
Last month

thanks for this so it seems it is really just a league name change and nothing more but for some more live stream.

why are people saying wa and nsw will get left behind if its just a name change?

also why are the entry costs to play in nbl1 south so insanely expensive?

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Anonymous  
Last month

NBL1 South were the first iteration of the new SEABL. Why they got charged 1/2 what a SEABL entry was is beyond me. I guess it was either pay up of dont play.

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Anonymous  
Last month

^Embrace change or have a cry it's up to you.

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Anonymous  
Last month

SEABL had equalisation of travel costs included in entry. NBL1 has no equalisation of travel costs - all borne by the individual clubs on top of entry.

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Anonymous  
Last month

^Well get your team to pull out of nbl1. Don't like it go elsewhere.

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Anonymous  
Last month

it's just classic WA - we didnt join the ABA in its heyday and we cant commit to join what looks to be awesome NBL1 product. It cant be truely national until WA is involved

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Perthworld  
Last month

Wait Awhile continues to deny the Wolfpack a national title. It's 2020 and nothing has changed.

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Anonymous  
Last month

When does SBL season start?

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Perthworld  
Last month

March 14.

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Anonymous  
Last month

That is when SA starts it's season. Not sure why SA can achieve this date and not WA especially when WA met first with NBL before SA

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Anonymous  
Last month

WA and SA will be happy to pay their own way to the Nationals I am sure.

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Anon  
Last month

Huge difference between SA Premier League and SBL. More Clubs in the west, three of those clubs are truly regional being 200km, 500km and 700km respectively from the Perth metro area - PL just has Mt Gambier. Historically also it has never been easy to get all clubs on the same page in the SBL for a variety of reasons, some legitimate whilst some are just if the neighboring club take one opinion then its not uncommon for the other club to disagree on principle such is the dislike between some clubs. 2021 looks like a goer but given two of the more financially stable clubs in Geraldton and Rockingham were in the No brigade this year, there still could be more to play out with this one before it is finally approved as NBL1 West

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Anonymous  
Last month

THanks for the feedback. Lukosious din't explain the disparity of the league. Maybe the financial clubs need to look at themselves and make a decision not to joing and if the SBL moves forward they can play with themselves ;)

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Anonymous  
Last month

^^ what?

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Anonymous  
Last month

You think it is easy in SA to get all the clubs on the same page?!?!

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Anonymous  
Last month

Clearly they are.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I'm hearing one club in SA might only be fielding junior teams and not s senior team

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Anonymous  
Last month

^That's fine

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