Isaac
Two months ago

Perth Wildcats sign Bryce Cotton to three year deal




(Yes, I know there are a variety of threads already, but it's a slow off-season.)

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Smac76  
Two months ago

Meanwhile the 36ers are going with one import. Why bother

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Tornado  
Two months ago

Smac76....yep and the owner keeps banging on about bringing a championship back to Adelaide, what a clown.

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Bol  
Two months ago

He's back.. and will be the GOAT!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

How much $?

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Congrats Perth fans.

As a non-Perth fan I will enjoy watching Bryce do his thing against all teams but my own, then cry into my hands during our match-ups.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

guessing Kay not returning and 3 yrs 1 million

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

#473
Could not agree more.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

easy deal ?

first yr with virus 150,000
2nd yr 550,000
third yr 300,00

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Cornholio  
Two months ago

Great news for Perth and the NBL.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

In all honesty, I would imagine this would be a very lucrative deal (doh! obviously :-))
You'd have to be looking at at least around $500k pa, AFTER the cut for next season.

Be interesting to see if his role changes, and what they do at the PG position. Fingers crossed Damo is healthy enough for one more.

Waiting now to hear what Kay is doing.
Must be tough to keep him.

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Scrote  
Two months ago

Just the new Bogut has been waiting for. Probably sign with Perf this week to replace Kay.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"easy deal ?

first yr with virus 150,000
2nd yr 550,000
third yr 300,00"

Why would he take a paycut?

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Perthworld  
Two months ago

Great news but how lame is the press release content.

Obviously one of the red-tie-and-suit-wearing-brigade was a little too over eager after watching The Last Dance.

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KET  
Two months ago

Perth fans just went from "NBL is trashed" to "yes this gonna be best season evar"

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Will be Perth GOAT by the time he's done. Arguably he's already there.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Get this man in the green & gold. Imagine Simmons with the ball with mills, cotton & broekhoff moving off the ball.

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ME  
Two months ago

Yeah, he needs his citizenship. He'd make my Tokyo team quite easily. Very few Aussies can create their own shots and have that killer instinct. He has that in spades. It would be like having two Patty Mills on the team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Simmons
Mills
Cotton
Delly
Exum
Ingles
Broekhoff
Creek
Kay
Bogut
Baynes
Thon

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Curtley  
Two months ago

Will the postponed Olympics mean he's more likely to get citizenship by then?

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LoveBroker  
Two months ago

Creek does not belong with those names, where is Landale?

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robt  
Two months ago

Simmons
Mills
Cotton
Delly
Exum
Ingles
Broekhoff
Creek
Kay
Bogut
Baynes
Thon

Is that the Perth Wildcats? Look Mum, no imports!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Creek does belong there and Landale, but remove Thon as he's so overrated.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Kay is not coming back and the cats gave him their blessing to get his huge pay day in his prime. Perth has already made overtures to Oliver's agent but he is trying to get to the NBA and European league is is his second option.

White is definitely not coming back

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Simmons / Dellavedva
Mills / Cotton / Thybulle
Ingles / Broekhoff
Landale / Kay / Maker
Baynes / Bogut

Reserves
PG Exum
SG Goulding or Green
SF Creek or Adel
PF Bolden or Cooks
C Humphries or Magnay

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Zodiac  
Two months ago

Not a bad Wildcats team that but not sure the locals will be happy with Exum over Martin.

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KET  
Two months ago

In a full Boomers team, I wouldn't be putting Cotton over Goulding.

That x-factor streaky three point shooting is the value proposition of Goulding.

Cotton is a better "overall" player, however in a Simmons/Mills/Delly/Ingles/Broekhoff rotation of PG-SF, you don't need to split the time with another Cotton/Exum type.

Gouldings job is to get on the court and splash threes without needing to warm up and to be fair, he did precisely that in the World Cup. If he can't, then he sits on the bench for the game.

If one of those players drop out and Thybulle doesn't join - always a likely scenario on both counts - that's where Cotton slides in before Goulding.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

cotton is going before Goulding.

Cotton shot it at 38%, Goulding 39%


Cotton can do alot more than Goulding when screens are involved.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Full squad too you have to assume that the Goulding / Cotton spot is for the last chair on the bench. You should go Aussie over Import!
It's not like back in the day when it was Leroy or Ricky who got loads of impact minutes. Now the team has nba talent in Simmons Delly and mills.
Goulding SHOULD get the last spot. Cotton never grew up dreaming of playing for the boomers

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KET  
Two months ago

As I said, a full Boomers don't need that, the value proposition for Goulding is that streaky shooter ability the way he played in the WC.

Cotton may be a better player or even shooter overall, but then so would the other Boomer players. It’s that X factor that’s valuable for taking games away from the opposition

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cotton over Goulding. No contest.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Straight after the WC, I also would have picked Goulding over Cotton because I thought CG played his role perfectly. Now, I'd have to pick Cotton - I'd rather get a 28 year old Cotton, coming off an outstanding season, into the Boomers system between now and the Olympics than go with the safer option in Goulding. Cotton is a big game player and could be just what we need.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Chances of Kay got a little better since he is still unsure . But I still say 60-40 towards going to Europe but it's improving. He loves playing for Gleeson and the Perth culture

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Goulding can't even carry Bryces’s jockstraps. Cotton is elite on both ends of the ball

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Well that's a snore fest.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Norton. ?.
Cotton, Wani Swaka Lo Buluk
?, Steindl
? , Wagstaff
? , Majok??.

* Any chance Damo returns?
* Will Cotton be a citizen thereby freeing up another import spot?
* Could Nick Kay come back.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

038 cotton is not an elite defender

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

No one loves playing for Gleeson
They love the money Perth pays outbidding everyone else

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

"038 cotton is not an elite defender"

Yeah you're right, he lead the league in steals by mistake...

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

IMO Cotton will be in our death lineup, probably something like:

Mills
Cotton
Ingles
Simmons
Landale

I genuinely think he will play a huge role off the bench in Tokyo. He's the only one besides Mills who can be relied on to create a good shot from nothing, accustomed to FIBA rules and styles, proven clutch player, good on both ends of the floor. It's going to be like almost having 2 Patty Mills' on the team.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

#063 yes he did Lead the league in steals with 1.74. LaMelo was 2nd with 1.64 and it's widely acknowledged that he couldn’t catch a cold on defence so the stat on its own does not make Cotton an elite defender.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Melo's defence was just like his offense and the rest of his game, streaky. He did show some promise on the defensive end though, the stat can't be completely ignored.

Cotton may not quite be 'elite' but he's a very good defender. Its something that's been a big focus of his in Perth and he's learnt a lot off Martin.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

He is a solid perimeter defender but gets abused when taken down into the low block. He can defend no doubt but in no way is he as asserted above elite at both ends of the floor.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Who abused him down in the block? I don't think the Cats defence allows for such a mismatch but tell us more.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I think most PGs would get abused down in the block lol

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Forgot I was talking to Perth fans

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Perth fans will call you out when you just make stuff up.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Wow this thread has derailed quickly.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cotton is no Ware on the block or dribble penetration but hey you knew that because you're from Perf

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

I didnt say he was as good as Ware. I'm just wondering when he got abused in the post.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Cotton is a no-brainer if naturalised. It would allow us to effectively have Patty Mills and another very similar player coming off the bench!

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Exactly, and the third guard Thybulle can play both sg and backup sf.

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D2.0  
Two months ago

Cotton also lead the league in steals, must be doing something right defensively.

As for Boomers' selection, like anything it will come down to availability. We always start out talking about a "full strength" Boomers squad, but it never quite eventuates.
If you were to look at the WC as an example, then yes, Cotton would have been a brilliant addition in place of Gliddon or Sobey.
Would certainly be nice to have the option.

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koberulz  
Two months ago

Led.

The word is "led".

And no, it doesn't mean he's a good defender. If he gambles constantly and comes up with three steals a game at the expense of getting beat to the basket fifteen times a game, he's a terrible defender.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

Thanks for the spelling correction Kober.
Legend :) xx

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Luuuc  
Two months ago

And no, it doesn't mean he's a good defender. If he gambles constantly and comes up with three steals a game at the expense of getting beat to the basket fifteen times a game, he's a terrible defender.

This.
Steals alone is an awful way of trying to prove someone's defensive prowess.

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Anonymous  
Two months ago

And no, it doesn't mean Kobe's not a wanker. If he posts constantly and is right three times a day, at the expense of being an insufferable dickhead fifteen times, he's a terrible person.

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Wilbur  
Last month

I've switched my autocorrect setting on my phone to koberulz mode. 100% perfect in every spelling and grammar.

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Cotton is a no-brainer if naturalised. It would allow us to effectively have Patty Mills and another very similar player coming off the bench!"
So where is all this money coming from and how does it fit anywhere into the "cap"?

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koberulz  
Last month

The Olympics don't have a salary cap.

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Anonymous  
Last month

The riots in America are out of control.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So are the police

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Anonymous  
Last month

Really?

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Anonymous  
Last month

So Cotton "walks" out. He won't take this pay cut is the excuse. Meantime in the back room of the Perth Wildcats they say let's "cut" Cotton so the public thinks this is all serious. Then we will bring him back and lock him in for 3 more years hopefully he will be Australian shortly, back end his salary and pay him shit loads more and no one will be the wiser. The NBL is a joke right there.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Cotton didn't walk out, and Perth didn't cut him. He simply took up his option to seek opportunities elsewhere.

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D2.0  
Last month

The wiser of what? Or to what?

The have renegotiated a new 3-year deal.
Blind Freddy understands that its for more money than he previously received, that it compensates for the "cuts" imposed in next season, and that (at least for now) it would make him the highest paid player in the NBL.

The irony, if any, is that it's probably still for less than he could have gotten in Europe.

After Cotton led us to his first championship, he made it clear that whilst he would never forget the experience, he wasn't expecting to come back. But who can account for such things, he fell in love. He now has a partner and child, Perth is his home, and the Cats found enough money to keep him. Truth be told, with all the craziness in the USA at this time, he's probably chuffed to be kicking back in "the 4th most boring city in the world."

And yes, I can understand why this causes other fans to roll their eyes.
We have the most rings, the most members, probably the most money, and now the best player in the league wants to naturalise and make Perth his permanent home.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Well said Dazz.

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koberulz  
Last month

So Cotton "walks" out. He won't take this pay cut is the excuse. Meantime in the back room of the Perth Wildcats they say let's "cut" Cotton so the public thinks this is all serious. Then we will bring him back and lock him in for 3 more years hopefully he will be Australian shortly, back end his salary and pay him shit loads more and no one will be the wiser. The NBL is a joke right there.
So their super-secret plan was to do exactly the thing they publicly announced they were doing, so nobody would realise they'd done that and not...something else?

Okay then.

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Perthworld  
Last month

The detective work on hoops.com.au is superb.

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D2.0  
Last month

Just wait till you hear of their plans for Plumlee.
This place will go into meltdown.

;-)

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Anonymous  
Last month

Jack Bendat money and they'll still claim everyone is playing for the love of the fans

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Anonymous  
Last month

No one has ever claimed that.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It's Perth they will use every trick in the book to get that W. No cap is the problem. Cotton will get paid more than the whole of the Hawks cap. Just sayin.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Whinge whinge

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Anonymous  
Last month

They only whinge cause Perth have the biggest sad when another team does something to make themselves competitive.
Sydney 4 imports - CRYYYYY
Melbourne spend money - CRYYYYY
The moment perf feel threaten the fans have a cry. Full well knowing that club pays the most

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Anonymous  
Last month

#964 could not put it better myself.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So what if Perth pay the most. No rules broken.
Underachieving teams for example Adelaide need to pay up and they might just break a near 20 year title drought.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Nup. The problem is that Perf is simply better run than everyone else and other fans instead of holding their clubs to a higher standard piss and moan and accuse Perf of cheating. Plus Perf obviously take the time to figure out the rules while other teams are scratching their bums. I have said this all along but othe teams refuse to learn. The wildcats obviously strive to find the right players and lock them in long term. Back in the days of the hard cap and points system while other teams were still trying to buy whole new teams every season the wildcats kept their players and built a core to the point where they had almost everyone on loyalty discounts. Do other teams try to emmulate this? No they keep changing players like underpants.
The Sixers would be a challenger every year if they only managed to hold onto their players instead of trying to fuck everyone over. The joke is that Perf probably dont spend as much as people reckon because instead they look after their players. Gleeson maybe a dickwacker on the sidelines but clearly he has built a good squad and a good program and players want to go there. As opposed to the toxic shitheap Joey Wright left us with. Imagine if we still had Creek and Sobey and if guys like Froling Drmic and McVeigh were motivated to perfform and to stay.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Wildcats may pay but it is out of profits, not handouts. The only real business in the entire NBL.

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Anonymous  
Last month

I doubt Perf made any profits last season. A loss would be expected.

Kobe said "So their super-secret plan was to do exactly the thing they publicly announced they were doing," So where was it publicly announced they were going to cut Cotton and pay him more and take advantage of the loophole now created? Citation needed.

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Anonymous  
Last month

They obviously lost out on having fans attend a grand final game but other than that they had full crowds for 16 home games. They wouldn't have made a loss on that.

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