D2.0
Last month

It "could be a year" before WA reopens its Borders

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"It will be months or even a year before Western Australia reopens its borders, the state's leader has said on the day it was originally slated to welcome interstate travellers once more."

And given the restrictions between Victoria and other states, and even between NSW and QLD, border restrictions shape as the biggest challenge to our next season.

As others have said, a "maxi" hub won't work for the NBL. Too expensive and not enough revenue. Temporarilly relocating the Melbourne clubs out of Melbourne and front-loading with away games, might work when its only two teams. But if border restrictions and the resulting quarantines are in place, then moving teams interstate in a timely fashion becomes almost impossible.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It would mean the NBL would have to move both Melbourne teams and that would require moeny which the NBL doesn't have.

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FM  
Last month

SE Melb don't fill their stadiums. Relocate them to Darwin.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Whi will pay for that? You will still have crowd issues. Ie. next to notheing.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Are you sure they haven't already thought about moving the two Melbourne teams out to a state that will be free to travel. Don't be so sure the league aren't willing to spend money to get a season up and going. Glass is half full and not half empty.

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D2.0  
Last month

But its NOT just the Melbourne teams, that's the point.
MU, SEM, Kings and Hawks would need to relocate because of the presence of covid. Wildcats would need to relocate because WA won't open its borders.
Breakers have to relocate because nobody can get in and out of NZ.
Not sure about Adelaide, but otherwise we're talking about relocating the whole league to QLD, and that's assuming hey get their outbreaks under control.
A couple of teams yes, but the league can't afford such a massive cost and loss of revenue.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Still doesn't solve the no crowd issues.

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Anonymous  
Last month

AFL are playing in Perth. It's called "Exemption". Please keep up.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Is it really worth speculating at this point? Anything could happen.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Damn, I'm getting stir crazy and feeling trapped here, every now and again a visit to a real city interstate or overseas is necessary to survive this one. Not interested in intrastate travel either as it is extremely bland.

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koberulz  
Last month

AFL are playing in Perth. It's called "Exemption". Please keep up.
The AFL are operating a hub, and teams are still required to quarantine. They're not flying in and out every week.

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Trev  
Last month

Guys, rare for me to comment on a Sunday but it's the off season, and with covid19, it's a very off season.

We haven't been told anything yet but internally we're just keeping our fitness up by doing mini game scenarios and ball skills.

We suspect next season will be cancelled but we've got nothing official. We're in no rush for an import yet but once the season dates have been set we will fill our roster.

NBL said they'll give us three month notice before the season starts for recruiting purposes.

Cheers guys.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Kobe they haven't quarantined in Perth. They did that elsewhere. Hawthorn played Sydney in Sydney July 25. They then played Carlton at Optus Stadium July 31. Where was the 14 day quarantine? It wasn’t in Perth. NBL will be the same.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Thanks Trev. Good to see you posting on the forums here.

BTW - I am happy to fork out the money for you to get a larger polo shirt for games.

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koberulz  
Last month

Kobe they haven't quarantined in Perth. They did that elsewhere. Hawthorn played Sydney in Sydney July 25. They then played Carlton at Optus Stadium July 31.
They're allowed to play other teams arriving in WA at the same time as they are, but that's it.

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Anonymous  
Last month

National league competitions are doomed outside of the major sports like the football leagues and maybe cricket because that's propped up by cricket Australia, but even that won't really apply apart from bbl. That will be lucky to even break even without crowds, but can see that being played in a hub. And cricket players are used to being away from home.
Unless a miracle happens, no nbl this season.

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Anonymous  
Last month

So Adelaide and Melbourne could arrive, play each other then play the Wildcats after that. Not too hard. Precedent is set

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Anonymous  
Last month

Because Hawthorn play Fremantle tomorrow

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Anonymous  
Last month

AFL teams are quarantined with the exemption that they can travel to and from the ground but are kept separate from the general public.

you could do the same with nbl teams, its just a bit of a ball ache

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D2.0  
Last month

The AFL has been granted an exemption as follows:
AFL teams complete their games in the QLD hub, then travel to Perth.
They are quarantined except for their limited practices.
A week later they play each other in Perth. The rationale is that since they are coming from the same hub, its not a significant extra risk. This still makes the league money because the telecast into Melbourne is worth a mint.
Because most AFL teams have been around for a 100 years, they have significant fans in Perth who relish the opportunity and buy tickets
A further week later they play the Eagles and Dockers.

The WA Government has allowed this because the AFL carries weight, it is making money for WA, and WA is keen to host the AFL finals.

The NBL would struggle to carry the cost of quarantining teams in Perth.
The neutral venue game would be costly and pointless.
The NBL doesn't have the same bargaining power as AFL.

And keep in mind that for the above to work, the AFL has bubbled 14 teams in QLD. Can the NBL afford to move 4 teams to QLD? Especially with Cairns playing in the hardware store?

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Anonymous  
Last month

Hawks played in Sydney Dazz not QLD

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Anonymous  
Last month

Unless Clive Palmer has his way

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Isaac  
Last month

The NBL would struggle to carry the cost of quarantining teams in Perth.
Other points stand, but would the quarantine be that outrageous if you corralled them from arrival to accommodation, venue, accomm, venue, accomm, airport? I could see it being achievable. There are other allowances being made for workers travelling between states, in some scenarios.

As I understand it, Sydney is not fully locked down but tracing and isolating aggressively and their case numbers are remarkably low given the population there.

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Perthworld  
Last month

Meanwhile Perth Glory and Western Force have been playing all their home games out of Sydney.

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Anonymous  
Last month

NSw looks like the model moving forward as we'll have to live with this until a vaccine is found so perhaps we'll be opened up for xmas travels.

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D2.0  
Last month

Hawks played in Sydney Dazz not QLD


They were playing in Melbourne, until it was shut down,
then the hub included Sydney, until QLD shut their border.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Yes Dazz but you're said people had to Hub in Queensland. Hawks went straight from Sydney to Perth. So what you stated was actually what must occur because it didn’t.

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D2.0  
Last month

The NBL would struggle to carry the cost of quarantining teams in Perth.


Other points stand, but would the quarantine be that outrageous if you corralled them from arrival to accommodation, venue, accomm, venue, accomm, airport? I could see it being achievable.

It's doable and wouldn't be the end of the world. But it adds costs in a situation where revenue is already taking a kicking.

There are other allowances being made for workers travelling between states, in some scenarios.
There WERE.
I have two colleagues who were doing FIFO from QLD. In the early stages they were exempt, but then that was changed to 2 weeks hotel quarantine. Doesn't really work on 2:1 roster. One quit, the other did his quarantine and is now stuck here indefinitely.

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D2.0  
Last month

Yes Dazz but you're said people had to Hub in Queensland. Hawks went straight from Sydney to Perth. So what you stated was actually what must occur because it didn't.
and what's your point?
last year they played in Melbourne and nobody had heard of Covid.

They DID play in Sydney, they can't anymore.

As I said a couple of weeks back, if it was just a matter of relocating two teams out of Melbourne, then that's doable.
If they have to relocate the two NSW teams as well, then the problem is doubled.
and if we then have the problem of hard borders on WA and NZ (and SA??) then we're talking about hubbing the whole league in QLD, and hoping no more slappers find their way across the border

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Anonymous  
Last month

The point is there are exemptions for National sport. My understanding the NBL have a new government liaison manager. I'm pretty sure the Wildcats would have some sway with the state government so it's not unfathomable that if the Victorian and NSW teams exit their state for the first part of the season that they will get things done. WA and SA have shown at this very moment that they do not have HARD borders

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Anonymous  
Last month

Won't happen. Who will pay for this fanciful hubbing? NO one. Forget the fantasy please. The NBL right now are in trouble. NO crowds. NO NBL said Loeliger.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#773 and you Sir do not know what you are talking about

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Anonymous  
Last month

Please tell us Dr. Kobe.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Afl saying it's costing them three million a week, there are 18 teams with squads of around 45 with players, coaches, doctors, physios etc.

Nbl teams would be 9 teams with squads of 15 with coaches, players, doctor and physio. I would not think the basketball players would cost more than afl players, if anything less.

Working on the above if anywhere near correct, a hub for the basketball would cost about $500,000 a week. It’s not happening unless it’s for a very short time or they could find a country area hub where costs would be a lot less.

The afl do exaggerate a lot so it could also be less.

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koberulz  
Last month

Please tell us Dr. Kobe.
This is sad.

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Anonymous  
Last month

It sure is. The Kobe stalker has been told repeatedly that he's being a knob but he simply can't stop himself.

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Anonymous  
Last month

#782 please keep up. Only 4 at most 5 sides will need to relocate to somewhere like QLD for the first 2 months of the year and fly out of that home base. The costs will not be astronomical

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KET  
Last month

Wonder how far back to NBL can push from a financial view point.

An NBL season would need go ahead in conditions where Australia is "on top of Covid" and then they could probably have a month of front loading home games in states with COVID “eliminated” - you'd be looking at SA, WA etc.

We were close to that ~ a month ago, and now we are in a far more devastated position. Obviously you can only control what you can control, there is no certainty so all you can do is be agile.

Crowds are so fundamental, we couldn’t have teams losing too many home games out of the situation. Financially the league and players need the season to begin it can’t keep being pushed back. To that extent we may see that combination of pushing the league further if necessary til February and then a month of games concentrated in the non hotspot states.

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Anonymous  
Last month

Oh, the irony (which I'm sure is lost on him anyway) of 648 and 797 telling others to "please keep up". Classic stuff.

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Mobbin  
Last month

6 super netball teams moved to QLD for a potential season long hub... Pretty sure same lack of telecast deal, low attendance problems and no benefactor/slush fund covering costs so why can't NBL do it?

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Anonymous  
Last month

"Please tell us Dr. Kobe.
This is sad." Yep it is. Hope you don't have covid cockhead.

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Anonymous  
Last month

QLD is now in trouble, what's the next plan?

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