Anonymous
Years ago

Increasing points for fouls.

I've thought for some time that fouls need to attract more than the current 2 shots and that 2 points should be awarded and then a foul shot as a bonus to curb some of the heavy fouls that happen each game.
The present system seems to favour the aggressor who can foul as hard as possible , sometimes so hard that the foulee is still shaken when taking the shots. Seems to be saying foul dirty and hard so your victim can't shoot and is contrary to all the rules of fair play.
Also we don't seem to pay one tenth of the unsportsmanlike fouls that seem to occur which is part of the reason BBall is perceived as a dirty sport.
We introduce arrows and take a skill out as a forward thinking change but allow dirty stuff some to escape without penalty. Just a thought

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Neptuneboy
Years ago

#10799, start calling unsportsmanlike fouls then!

If you are of the opinion that a player deserves more than two shots because of a foul, then it's obviously unsportsmanlike.

Make the right call and give the offence the ball back after the shots! Simple.

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Anonymous
Years ago

You sook!

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Anonymous
Years ago

Stop being so damn soft.

If you get hit hard, hit back haarder.

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Anonymous
Years ago

Stop being so damn soft.

If you get hit hard, hit back harder.

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Anonymous
Years ago

The Gorj would not allow this rule change.

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SA Great
Years ago

In junior basketball, the advantage is with the defending team.
Maybe, for junior games only, the attacking team gets 1 free throw, and then posession.

Maybe this should be used during the summer season.

Interesting point

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Anonymous
Years ago

I would like to know why it is an unsportmans like foul if you challenge someone from behind in a layup situation in the open court but can legally knock someone over in the half court without knowing where the ball is?? Also, what ever happened to teaching kids to play defense without a hand check? Seems a blind eye is turned to this.

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Anonymous
Years ago

I agree SA great, that it could be trialled to see how it goes. Too many junior games are decided by muscle over skill where fouling the player hard can prevent the shots being made.

Basketball owes its players more protection and a foul should earn automatic points and a free throw as a deterrent to the incresing violence.
Its not surprising that the majority of people would see this as soft as most consider 'biffo' as part of the game now. But if we are serious about skill then it should be considered.
I think two players going hard for the ball is great, accidental collisions etc and edgy competition fine but the increasing use of deliberate elbows especially on the guards down the court is a blight on our game along with the 'in air pull downs' and gut punching that is happening, is a turn off to most.
I still find it hard to accept that we give the aggressor the edge. You can foul hard, dirty or unsportsmanlike and still have a fifty-fifty chance to escape scott free and if you foul hard enough, you are almost sure to get away with it. The lesson we are teaching kids is crime pays. Giving automatic points for fouls would clean it up.

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h0bb1t
Years ago

then it shud be up to the ref's to determine wheather or not it's worthy (or unworthy) of an unsportsman-like foul... so what your really saying are the ref's are incompetent..?

i do see what you guys are saying though... but hey... i suppose afl is becoming softer... y not basketball... (major sarcasm)

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Phizzer
Years ago

Maybe players should become better foul shooters so it's almost as good as a 2 points?

Or make each foul shot worth two points?

Also, who perceives basketball as a dirty sport? I watched some FINA water polo live the other night, now that's a dirty sport!

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Anonymous
Years ago

#125234) Agree with you - automatic points should be awarded - then the ballers would be more careful not to do it. The free throw shooters are at a disadvantage if they are not a good foul shot or are shaken up by the foul committed and the facts are that not everyone hits the foul shot - so the "fouler" does get away with it and is not penalised, apart from having the foul recorded against them

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.........
Years ago

its pretty unfair to award that many foints and extra shots to suone for a foul as most of the time fouls arent itentional and alot of players fouls are a big part of there game as they are just an agressive player

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.........
Years ago

its pretty unfair to award that many foints and extra shots to suone for a foul as most of the time fouls arent itentional and alot of players fouls are a big part of there game as they are just an agressive player

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Anonymous
Years ago

Then don't foul under the basket. I think its more unfair to foul hard or unfairly and not get auto points.

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Anonymous
Years ago

Phizzer, have you ever played a game where at least one of your opponents wasn't a head hunter or a behind the play merchant or where you weren't elbow checked?

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odin
Years ago

this is just silly,can you imagine the games that would decided on what the this ref thinks is a foul this week.
and that silly advantage rule how will that apply, The foul already has the harshest penalty possible, 5 of them and your out of the game.
5 team fouls and its 2 shots for every foul already.

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Anonymous
Years ago

Thank God your're dead Odin.

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Anonymous
Years ago

Foul shots are only good when you put them in!! Some players need to practice them a lot more in pressure situations.

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Anonymous
Years ago

#891, you're right, players need to practice their foul shooting under pressure but shooting two when you were fouled dirty on an 'in the bank' layup doesn't seem to be that much of reward to the player fouled and not much of a deterrent to the fouler.
Either reduce the number of fouls needed to foul out or award more points or automatic points for foul shots.

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Anonymous
Years ago

Pathetic!

Some of you confuse basketball with the NON CONTACT sport of netball.
If you can't make an un-defended shot from a few feet away you deserve no points.
It is actually a skill to foul someone, not letting them get a good shot away and without being unsportsmanlike.

Weakest thread ever!

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Anonymous
Years ago

#360, Yea your probably right and destined to remain an obscure minor sport.
Do you know the definition of the word foul by the way?
With today's refs fouling doesnt come close to a a skill and unsportsmanlike requires a death to occur before its called.

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Anonymous
Years ago

You sook.

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Hoops

Increasing points for fouls.

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