The same Knox Basketball that recently announced to their domestic club presidents that they have lost over $250,000 this year alone.
Massive increase in wage bills for what benefit?

So why didnt you apply for the job Graham?

Because Graham was told by a board member that it would be his if he wanted it. The club is an absolute shambles.

Dont know what all the fuss is about, all will be well once knox recieves its apparent multimillion dollar sponsorship from microsoft. End to financial woes and will be able to afford to pay (assuming they accumulate enough "points" to warrant being paid at all)supercoaches they'll poach from other clubs once their own walk. Hang on , maybe everyones just jealous because we own our own state of the art stadium, oops thats right it doesnt belong to us it belongs to Knox Council!! Out with the old boys club in with the new one?

As well as Graham another one of the Raiders best coaches has not been given a senior gig with long term asst Coach Tony Smyth moving on to coach in the 23 league. Surely he deserved a gig as the head coach? Obviously not in the right crowd.

At the end of any coaching contract the position is put out to market.Dont know why Graham is complaining.IF your good enough you get the gig end of story.Welcome to the real world.The days of the old association model are dead for the bigger associations, its a business and its all about making $$$

You Snooze You Lose? Are you serious? Graham was given an undertaking by a board member that the job was his and considering his success with the team so it should be. He said he was hurt in the local paper with the board going in a different direction and so he should be. If a board member from the association you have dedicated 20 years of service to tells you something you take it on face value.

Why we are at it a new golden era for Knox? Really?

If screwing over people that have been loyal servants to the club for years means a new era for Knox- well clearly being a part of Knox is not what it used to be. Disgraceful.

Anonymous, lots of smiling faces eh and end of the cronies. You have no idea what these guys have done for the program, their own personal time and sacrifices = these guys are the reason Knox has been successful.

If I was to have a guess, I reckon you are a "whingeing" parent whose little child was not good enough. But as is typical of your type you cannot see through your rose colored glasses. It is easy to blame Graham and Tony. Get over yourself mate - both these guys are brilliant coaches whom the kids love to play under.

Last year alone Knox SEABL have 7 juniors in their squad - testament of the work of these two guys.

Try a new club anonymous - knox doesn;t need your type.

Golden era??????????? has an elitist ring to it, surprise surprise. u need the goods to produce results and from what i hear both players and coaches are departing rather than arriving at knox! gone are the days where kids from other clubs strove to get a gig at knox. look at the numbers this season they speak for themselves and which dont even take into account kids that have just walked away and not gone to other clubs to play. so much positive talk about upcoming clubs out there and nothing but negative about knox. the wide belief is that knox are an arrogant bunch who havent earnt the right to be. look at results in juniors over last few years. no bragging rights there!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knox are elitist make no doubt about it. Some alleged comments recently on social media showed what some of those in charge of the juniors there think of the lower rep grades.

Go talk to the members and sponsors on how happy they are with how Graham and his unwavering loyalty have been treated?

Well interesting stuff- it its true then allegedly:
board member/s are idiots
director of coaching is a ghost
coaches are unhappy and contemplating leaving
juniors are running out the door
senior coaching staff being dogged
financial issues/problems
coaches arent being developed
jobs for the boys
unhappy sponsors
lack of reward for effort and loyalty

What a wonderful club to be a part of...........NOT!!!!

If even half of this is true then its going to take more than a major sponsorship deal to help them.

everyone talks about the new stadium being a huge bonus for Knox. You people are just idiots who obviously have no connection to the place. The COUNCIL runs the stadium and they charge MORE than local venues for court hire. DO you wonder why BV dont run clinics or ITC from there given that thier offices are all in the building ?? One simple reason, the council charge like wounded bulls for courts. Wake up people, the new SBC is not going to help Knox at all !!

sorry anon you are way off the mark here, the council owns the building but Knox has the management rights and they set the pricing for anything that happens in relation to court usage.From what I have heard you are right about BV usage as what Knox is asking is just to expensive.The new SBC can help Knox only if they get the operation of the whole place right, which at this time from my observations they haven't.

I am also afraid that some of the comments made by old coach are very very accurate no matter what other posters may say which to be honest being a Knox person is breaking my heart.

Irrespective of the accuracy? of all of the above theres no denying the amount of talented coaches and juniors that knox has lost over recent years and look like they will continue to lose. Maybe Knox should focus on the reason why this has happened. Forget worrying about thinking you're better than everyone else cause reality is that you're not and the only people that don't see that is yourselves and you have become a laughing stock. Do yourself a favour,take a look around at how other clubs go about it and learn from them...............

I'm confused,don't Knox have a dual olympian at the helm? How could things be anything but rosy???????

sorry anon was only questioning the accuracy relating to new stadium operation.As I said I agree with a lot of the old coaches comments.

Former Knox Coach - You put this scathing attack on the club up here and won't put your name next to it? Geez it must be hard to criticise from behind your keyboard.

anon - you're exactly the same.

If you guys/girls want to criticise, then do so. Everyone has their right to an opinion. But don't go putting it up hiding behind some fake name. The safety of anonymity means you feel you can have a crack on here? That's weak as.

I remain proud to say I am a Knox person, for all the apparent shortcomings that anyone wants to air out on here. People who are proud to be involved are the people that are there to help the club. Obviously So take your weak attack, and perhaps rephrase it as a few questions which can be answered by those in the know. That's if you want answers. I would presume, however, that now your rant is done you don't really want to put your name to it and seek some answers. Be stoked if you proved me wrong...

You make me laugh DP34 my mail is people are questioning the club but I am not sure they are getting answers, or if they are the answers just raise further questions.
I am a proud Knox person and that will never change but you don't have to be einstein to see that there are problems their no matter what you say.It is no longer the tight knit place it used to be when everybody used to paddle in the same direction. The ship now has to many captains paddling their own boat.

Yep people like helping the club and Knox has always had a strong base of volunteers but that is not the case anymore.The only volunteers now are those who run the domestic clubs who do a great job.

The Chief is right. The number of good Knox people/ volunteers that have walked away from the place in the last year or two is actually sad.
There is a real boys club attitude prevalent and as the circle of people wanting to be involve continues to shrink there problems will just continue to grow.

Maybe so but the senior raiders side is only one area in the whole club, the issues it has are affecting all areas of the club.

Plenty have raised concerns in the past and continued to question but with nil result. Everyone knows if you speak up you will just be discredited to ensure nobody listens to you further. The easiest way to take the heat off yourself is to attack the integrity of others. Now thats weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One wonders about the grand plan. Plenty of new staff in the office, the rumored NBL team about to get up, whispers of more staffing appointments everywhere you look. We were told by now that Bulleen would be playing WNBL games at the new Knox Stadium, that big events like the Wiggles Concerts etc would be held often at the stadium and yet none of it has happened.
Let's hope the rumor about WC landing a massive million dollar sponsorship is true or the place is quite clearly going to go broke.
Regardless on whether you believe Graham to be a good coach or a good bloke, no one deserves to be treated the way he was after everything he has given that club. To think the club did not give Tony or Scott a chance at taking over the senior role shows exactly the respect the front management is paying to the people that have been such a part of Knox's rich fabric for so long.

Alot of the up and coming young coaches have left Knox and are having success elsewhere. Very much a boys club. I agree with others that changes is needed. Doesn't take much for a club to crumble.

No club runs smoothly. Everyone makes mistakes. It was Graham Longstaff who refused to let Venky Jois be seen by the 14 -1 coach and then overlooked him the following year for the 16-1 and 16-2 teams. That kid lived 5 minutes from the stadium and didn't want to leave the club. Dandenong gave him every opportunity and he ended up getting major time in SEABL championship as a 17 year old. That just doesn't hapen at Knox.
Same thing happened to Bogut with Dandenong. He couldn't get a look at the top sides and had to go to several clubs to get the chances he needed.
People are people and make mistakes.
Not applying for your job when it is advertised? - just another mistake.

Nothing more than a puppet show. Bring back Damian!!!!!!!!!!!!

DP 34 - Like you I am a knox person. Your criticism whilst valid, fails to recognise that hiding behind your keyboard maybe weak, one must also consider the environment at Knox.

People are afraid to speak up for fear of reprisal.

Former Coach makes very relevant points - does he or she lack courage or is the environment too threatening ?

Maybe the "balanced" approach should now be to put together a working party to research/analyse Former Coaches points of contention. Address issues that need attention and discard those that are emotional nonsense.

Knox is a proud club - lets stop using a public forum to air our dirty linen.

Time to unite, put our egos away and work together for the better of the Club.

Dirty Laundry > Knox

Knox is a boys club and changes need to be made. They have lost sight of what they are there for.

Will be interesting to see what new business ventures start out of Knox over the coming months and who benefits from those.

How disappointing for Knox to realise that obviously those in the know are constantly talking out of school.I could say soooooooo much more about what's going on there but won't as it's not my place to and time will reveal all anyway. The real problem at Knox is that nobody can be trusted as they are lightning quick to pass the buck and turn on each other in a blink.......... NOBODY is immune. Very sad situation which appears destined to worsen unfortunately. Honesty and integrity would go a long way to helping the overall situation. Time to stop acting to serve personal agendas, swallow the pride, acknowledge and address issues that are relevant to the future success of the club.Stop claiming everything is just ugly rumours and attempting to discredit those that are prepared to have an opinion as usually those are the people that actually care.

any chance Knox might ever both to put some new content on their website? A year or two ago there were news stories galore now nothing.

News Stories > Knox

There is new content on the website - now advertising Playboy -"win the playboy night of your life". Next, I am waiting for sexpo, kittens, penthouse and the like to get a spot to advertise their brand on the main page.

Is it just me, thought Knox Basketball was primarily about and supported by a few thousand junior basketballers and their famalies. Knox Basketball, built on strengh of character, pride and values. Maybe it is being hijacked by people with too many grand plans, which need that mighty dollar.

Playboy adverts > Knox

I appreciate your comments Balanced, but if they are a Former Knox Coach, then what reprisals should they fear?

And I think the notion of a reprisal is ridiculous. Speaking your mind is what gets you to places, its what separates those with clear vision and potential from the rest of the pack.

I do agree with the other posts by various people about this not being to forum to air dirty laundry (as I rasied in my other post). The club is bigger than any one individual, and as such, any issues can be, and should be, addressed.

And still nothing from you Former Knox Coach? Geez, that attack was scintilatingly cowardly.

Axe to Grind > Knox

Knox > This Thread.

Wow, a post here from Hoop Addict.

Hail the messiah

DP 34 - one word for you - naive. Every person of sound mind and mature experience will always tell you of the negative consequences for speaking your mind - no matter what world you live in. You need to grow up and broaden your horizons. Mouth shut + ears and mind open = you might learn something, thats of course if you dont already believe you know it all.

Domma - yes former Knox Coach has gone quiet - is this not a good thing? Yes he/she has had a bit to say. Whats done is done!! But what are you trying to achieve - inflame the situation further? Your comments do nothing positive for the club. Time for us all to shut up and focus on what you are supposed to be doing ie. Let go and move on - life is too short.

To everybody else associated with Knox - bite your lip and ignore this subject - responding to it only gives credibiity to people like former knox coach and DP 34. NO MORE COMMENTS ON THIS SUBJECT PLEASE.

No more comments > Knox

At Balanced- not liking what youre hearing? boo hoo to you. get in the real world. why shouldnt people have an opinion and be able to voice it. whos paying you to put the fire out.................

some have tried to get answers, been patient gone about it the right way. Still zip, delay after delay. those that give a toss are being painted as troublemakers for putting their opininon across and asking the hard questions. One way of diverting attention away from the real issues..............

Since wen has AT been a wasp??????????? Think u got that wrong Anonymous

Wasps > Knox

Yeah Anonymous WTF is AT caus he aint from the MIGHTY WASPS!!!!!