hmm interesting end to the 1st half. Social media may blow up!

Delly is playing hard and playing fair! BS comments from the game callers insinuating sht...

The entire first segment of the half time report was spent discussing the Delly-Horford incident.
Matty is certainly getting his name out there these playoffs!

Delly is getting it done, but all the talk is about him allegedly being labelled a 'dirty player', because he has been shown on replay after replay to roll into guys knees.

They are saying he isn't a dirty player and it is just bad luck, in the act of just being a tough Aussie, one they would all love to have on their team.

But he got a tech in this one and his opponent during the scuffle dropped on him and whacked him near the head, so he got a flagrant 2 and has been ejected.

Man, the Hawks fans must hate on Delly, I am sure he will get boos a plenty when they play over there, but I don't see that Delly is doing anything more than just hanging tough!

The Chicago fans hated him last series too. Their booing spurred him on to have probably the best game of his career.
Nothing even remotely dirty about the Korver incident or this one just now. Anyone who's watched him knows that his only focus is getting that ball. The commentators were right about one thing - he shouldn't have even got a tech for that. He did nothing wrong whatsoever.

I'm loving it.

(Flagrant 2 was a harsh call though IMO)

Gotta stop rolling into players legs. Even AFL has a rule against that

Crashing into someone's legs is dangerous, yes. That applies to the Korver one a lot more than today's one though.

Hard to stop the momentum of your body sliding like that, I think Delly is going for the ball and playing it tough. No idea what his tech was for today, seemed like it should have gone no tech and a Flagrant 1, but they may have heard something and they have their own way of interpreting their rules...

Horford should've been given a F1. No tech for Delly.

On the three plays the commentators keep talking about, all I see is:

Gibson leg lock was dirty.
Korver went 50% at the ball whereas Delly committed his whole body.
Horford pulled Delly down with him? Or am I blind?

Is a flagrant 2 an auto suspension for the next game? If so, series done.

Yea Flagrant 2 was harsh. Delly tech must have been for something he said?

Clearly yes, lets penalise the person going for the ball just like the AFL...

Gibson leg lock, cheeky, but certainly in no way dangerous!
Korver half hearted effort as stated above.

... today, Delly did absolutly nothing wrong.

No way that was a flagrant 2 on horford and it ruined the match now. I can see how people wouldn't like delly if he's not on ur team, he is irritating.

Anon^, seriously Delly = Beast!

:)

Delly just flat out plays hard. He is not a dirty player - he just goes in all in all the time. Shame more players with greater athletic ability do not do the same.

Why are anonymous fools allowed to post on here?

18 seconds, 104-104 and Shrumphry on the line...

Shumpreckt

Shumpert......Damn the guy missed it!!

T/O

O/T

O/T

Why would he not have driven at them?

LeBron played an important role in that one

Monster game by LeBron James. 37 points, 18 rebounds, 13 assists, 3 steals, 1 block. Only marred by 38% shooting and 6 turnovers.

I don't think a one-man team is going to be GSW though.

*beat

Agree. As much as I love Delly.

GSW are 100% the best team. Steph is hands down the best player to watch in the NBA rite now!

From NBA.com:

"A flagrant 1 is unnecessary contact. This is usually when a defensive player swings and makes hard contact with the offensive player or makes hard contact and then follows through. A flagrant foul 2 is unnecessary and excessive contact. This usually has a swinging motion, hard contact, and a follow through."

Seems like Horford's was flagrant 2. It was unnecessary and excessive contact.

Similar to previous posters, I also can't figure out what the tech was for!

For those saying that Delly is a "dirty player": what does that make Gibson and Horford? Their actions were far worse than anything Delly did.

Can't believe people are saying that play was dirty. The whole thing was thrown way out of proportion.

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/602692817505259523

The technical on Delly was bogus. Even rereading the statement in the above link it makes no sense at all.

Delly was pulled backwards, was he meant to somehow guess that he was going to be pulled over the top of Carroll? Various Hawks blogs are trying to say that Delly "gathered his legs and launched himself into Horford's legs". But I can't see that in any angle I've seen. Delly's good, but he can't beat gravity or physics.

I love how they kept going on about the Korver incident like it was dirty, what does any good coach tell you in footy, if you don't go in hard that is when you will get hurt, that is what happened to Korver. And today I'm pretty sure Horford was pulling Delly towards him before Delly hit the ground.....So the new rule in the NBA is that you can't dive for a ball because some superstars don't want to have to dive on the floor? Beverly from the Rockets has to deal with some of this same crap for playing hard so at least its not just Delly.

What a load of bs, how soft are some of these guys? Delly is giving up 6 inches and 22kg to Horford, who is over his back and dragging him sideways by the arm/shoulder. How the hell is he meant to stay on his feet in that scenario, any contact with Horfords knee is a direct result of Horford man handling Delly full stop.

PnR has the view from the baseline which goes with Delly's statement "I was boxing him out. ... He was pulling my left arm down."

http://pickandroll.com.au/aussies-nba-playoffs-horford-ejection-sparks-dellavedova-debate-yet/

Westbrook was dribbling to the sideline to call a timeout. It's a completely different situation to Delly's incidents.

So if I understand correctly, Horford pulls Delly down, pulls him over a teammate thus taking his legs out from under him, Delly has no control of his landing and makes contact with Horford's leg, and is therefore a dirty player. Does that about sum it up?

$50 says Steph curry gets injured by a dellavedova "hustle play" in the first two games

Did LeBron play good?

Apparently Delly has a track record after maybe 20 seconds of action in all the minutes he has played post season:

Incident 1: Leg Lock. Poor Form and not warranted. Technical given to Delly should have been the call

Incident 2: Dived on a loose ball. Nothing in this but unfortunate injury. Part of the game, get on with it nancy commentators

Incident 3: Boxed out for too long, tangled arms and fell on Horford leg. I think a foul called early on the delly block out would have stopped all this. However after this they could have stopped the play by calling a double foul for the holding. If you don't call any of these fouls then I agree with the flagrant 2. Horford went from a standing start to dropping the elbow. Disagree with the technical. Was this dirty, no it was part of the game that could have been handled much better by the referees.

Prediction: Delly fouls out of the next game and Teague goes for 30+

Just finished watching the game and glad to hear most intelligent and sensible posters on here agree that Delly is not dirty. I usually like Reggie's commentary but thought he was being farfetched and and throwing fuel on an unnecessary fire by saying Delly goes for peoples knees - that was absolute rubbish. Also Horford just dragged him down today and then dropped the hammer on Delly's head, there was absolutely nothing Delly did wrong in that play, it was all on Horford who was likely frustrated about being boxed out by a guy a foot shorter and who had actually drawn a loose ball foul on Horford a few plays before. Ridiculous technical called on Delly also and should be retracted by the NBA if they have any sense.

As others have touched on, the Korver incident was just unlucky and Delly was just going hard at the ball. The whole pattern of behaviour thing the Hawks are going on about sounds a lot like sour groups from a team being totally outplayed by a club missing 2 of its best 3 players.

The only incident where you can say Delly was somewhat in the wrong was the Gibson ejection. If you actually have a look at the whole play, Gibson shoves/wacks Delly in the back of the head/neck area first on the rebounding contest, then Delly leg-locks him resulting in the Gibson kick and ejection. Delly should have got a tech for the leg lock but Gibson instigated the incident.

Anyway, can't beleive how out of proportion this was blown by the commentators and by the Hawks, cry us a river!

Does anyone think the cavs are any chance against the dubs? I feel the dubs will annihilate them. I wish it was a spurs dubs finals, hate watching Cleveland play ISO ball.

If delly did nothing wrong then why did you get a tech for hitting horford below the knees? Stop being childish and accept he did something wrong.

Don't take my word for it, take the word of the three NBA level officials that thought his play was dirty. This site is just packed with fuckwits

All you people saying that kelly olynyk intentionally tried to dislocate Kevin loves arm with a completely on purpose wwe wrestling move but can't accept that delly maybe tried to take someone's ankles/ knee out?

What I laugh about is that in the NBL, probably none of these would have even resulted in a technical except for Horford WWE style take down. And I am saying this in a good way, I think we should be proud of our toughness. I understand why the NBA do try to keep a lid on things, but I think Australia's best quality in basketball is our toughness, work ethic and the win at all costs attitude.

And I am not the biggest lebron fan, but him backing up Delly big time is great. I just hope Delly keeps going hard at it and keeps the piss weak Americans talking.

please, lebrons backing him up because he's on his team. If delly had done that TO lebron imagine how quickly lebron would be calling him dirty and how much the media would be all over it

The refs do have video replays. They would have used them to assess horford as the flagrant 2 and would have seen exactly what delly did

BG32 if this site is too full of fuckwits for you then how about you fuk directly off to some other forum!

BG32: So will your opinion change if/when the technical foul gets rescinded?

Should it?

I think its pretty clear whether Delly did anything "dirty" on the Horford play.

Is anything he did in the Horford play dirtier than what he's been on the receiving end of this series?
https://twitter.com/cleveland_fanz/status/602663303240900609
... or is that just another example of the NBA "brotherhood" looking out for each other?

Bg32 it's ok to have different opinion, but calling people fuckwits to get your point across is just juvenile.

If horford isn't reaching over delly's back and pulling him down, then delly doesn't lose his footing and make contact with his knees. You can't foul a guy, pull him off his feet out of frustration of being denied the ball and then complain about the guy making contact with your knees.

More damage done to mosgov with a blood nose in the warm up geez!

As for Gibson incident, it was an over reaction by delly, just as horfords reaction was. But it wasn't malicious and no one was in danger of being hurt, again the so called leg lock never happens if Gibson doesn't push delly in the back and throw him to the floor.

Jono you're a clown

Horford drops the elbow BECAUSE of delly hitting his legs. IF it gets rescinded then I'll think about it. But it won't. I get he's Australian and you all want to defend him but be realistic

Umpires thought he could have avoided/ not done it on purpose hence the tech.

Maybe YOU should get a clue fool

You don't think umpires looked at the replay screens when determining what the calls were? Idiot

I've watched it. Unneccesary. I can admit the Gibson thing was dumb but not dirty. I can admit that it was completely unneccesary to hit korvers legs that way but not dirty. But horfords was plain and simple intentional. He was probably pissed at being held and he went for them. When you stop being a complete dickhead/ Cleveland fan/ Delly bandwagon Australian fan maybe you'll see it's too. Until then neck yourself

How cute is this bloke replying to his own anonymous comments. Well done champ

I agree he is totally cute

You guys are right as always. Very cute bloke.

So I guess none of you have seen the photos with dellys arms around horfords legs? Or just ignoring that as well

The most interesting thing about this thread now is waiting to see what swear words or rude remarks BG32 can come up with next.

Sorry, uninteresting!

If you're 12 and don't like swearing go tell your mummy and she can block the bad man for you :(

Lots of angles on this youtube clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBySQufMAZg

Perhaps BG32 can point us to which part shows Delly being intentional & dirty so that all of us fuckwits, fools, idiots & dickheads can learn something.

Nahhhh you're all too blinded by this bench player who shoots somewhat decently on open 3s to actually see what's happening. Troll out

Well that was highly predictable. Later, troll.

So predictable you kept biting. Well done you're like the Sherlock Holmes of troll detection

Hey there champ (BG32), thank you so much for making our point here, really appreciate your honesty and frankness.

In my opinion, the only dirty play he did was the leg lock on Taj Gibson, seemed a bit unnecessary. The Korver hit was because he dived on the ball (as you should) and Korver shied away from any contact. The whole Horford situation was blown out massively. Both holding so call a double foul and then the elbow slam probably deserves a flagrant 1, ejecting him is probably a bit harsh.

If intent counts in a flagrant call then it's a 2. If only contact that actually occurs counts then a 1 should have been fine

Nearly every player in the NBA played college. Very few current ayers came straight from high school

Not too long ago Kyle korver had his nose broken during a game and came back very soon after wearing a mask. Wouldn't be calling him weak. Worried about getting injured again yes, but not weak

I think it's more to do with the anonymity factor.
A dickhead like BG32 would just get banned from most message boards for his pure tolling, but here there are no account restrictions.
That has some good aspects that make the place better, but it comes at the cost of dealing with the occasional tosser.

Plus you can change your user name so easily the same person could have posted here 5 times and you'd never know

Seriously.

All those commenting above who are critical of Delly for this play, or who are chastising those who thought (properly) there was nothing in it from Delly's perspective, watch it again. Disregard the players involved and whether you like them/dislike them/think this forum is biased because Delly is an Aussie.

Watch how they get tangled up (not an uncommon thing to happen in a game) and how Horford pulls Delly down (again, not overly remarkable).

Watch how Delly, in the course of falling to the ground, falls over Carroll and into Horford's legs - and here's the critical part - *backwards*. Realise that Delly had no control over how that play went down once he starts to fall. Up until this point, it's at best a regular foul to each player for getting tangled up with each other.

Then watch Horford drop the people's elbow on Delly *after* they had physically separated. This wasn't two guys rolling around on the floor and one trying to get up and putting in a sneaky elbow on the way up. If there's a dirty player here, it's Horford, not Delly.