Anonymous
Years ago

Can 36ers afford to swing the axe on imports?

Are Adelaide in a financial position to swing the axe on either of the imports if they are not up to scratch, or is this something that they will have to live with?

It doesn't really matter yet weather the 'fans' like or dislike the imports already, either way, they will have to be given a chance to play first, before deciding.

Has anyone actually had a really good look at either, other than the 36ers themselves?

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Matthew  
Years ago

Wow, you are getting in here quick on this !

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Tornado  
Years ago

Considering SOS were supposedly less financial than the current owners and they did it in the past then I would suggest if Joey feels the need and can prove why then yes, they will?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not asking for them to swing the axe, just asking if they are financial to do so. I remember them living through Mike Chappell!

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FYI  
Years ago

You have 2 months to replace an import without having to see out their contract.

Once you pass the cut off date the import is entitled to full pay regardless of how many games they play.

Having seen the imports play I don't think this will be an issue. Ebi will give teams problems and Kenyon will be a solid role player. He hasn't been recruited to be a star as the 36ers have Aussie's to do that.

He will get the right players their shots in the right spot , play tough D and hit the open shot if the D sags on him.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Ahh, 36ers fans. Concocting plans to sack players they likely haven't even seen play.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No fan base wants a solid role player import. He wont last, cheap but reason for that. Ia it 2 months from gm 1 or signing date?

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FYI  
Years ago

The thing a fan base wants is a winning team. Joey has always delivered that and there is no reason to think otherwise this season.

If you want to see 2 flashy imports play against each other and not win the NBL isn't for you.

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Isaac  
Years ago

No fan base wants a solid role player import.
Garrison, Ibekwe, etc. Useless!

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KingJames  
Years ago

Mike Kelly, Kevin Braswell and Torey Craig also useless

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Garrison, Ibekwe, etc. Useless!"

Ibekwe could score, rebound and block, more than a role player IMO.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Ibekwe averaged 12 and 6 (largely off the bench?), and played about 21-22 minutes. I think if you told many 36ers fans that was who they'd lined up, they'd call that a budget role player and/or want them sacked.

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paul  
Years ago

Spot on Isaac. Ibekwe was the epitome of a role player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rephrase this particular group doesnt need a role player import... fans want star imports. We have the role players... of course great teams have had role player imports etc this team here may compete but not for a title.

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Baller#3  
Years ago

Gone are the days of having 2 superstar imports and building around them. Now its about getting as good as possible group of Aussies together, and then filling the gaps with serviceable imports.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I beg to differ just think gone are the days that those import give you multiple years ala mark davis. But star imports are out there ready to tear up the league...

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snooch  
Years ago

fans want star imports...

Do they? I actually want a TEAM that can compete every night. As FYI said, Joey has delivered that so far, so there's no reason to think he won't do it again.

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paul  
Years ago

It's about what your team needs. If a role playing import complements the rest of your team well it's a good signing. If no one else on the team can score in tough situations then it's not (unless their role is 4th quarter closer of course!).

Alternatively, if you've got seven guys who can score, then signing a star import who needs lots of the ball isn't wise, but a guy who'll defend, set screens and finish plays is.

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Bulldog  
Years ago

Just on great role players, what about the garbage man Dusty Rychart, great role player. Knew his limitations and never tried to exceed them.

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XY  
Years ago

Dusty was only a role player in his latter years. Was a star early on in the blue collar worker mould. Had significantly better stats for the Sixers than Brian Conklin did in winning the MVP award last year.

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paul  
Years ago

No, he was an exceptional role player who got his numbers from just doing his job, cleaning up garbage. Role player doesn't mean you can't be a star, Vlahov and Vukona are two great examples of that.

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XY  
Years ago

Don't agree. In his first two years in Sixers colours he was a go to offensive player in the "big 3" (Maher, Farley) the Sixers were running at the time.

That is not to say that he wasn't exceptional at broken/hustle plays or that he wasn't great at playing his 'role'.

Vukona has been a seminal role player never got close to the star output Dusty had.

Are you putting Brian Conklin in the 'exceptional role player' category? If so, we are clearly taking about different things.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The league has improved a lot so big time imports are harder to find plus some leagues in Europe pay a lot more so thus in turn value of top live imports & also dual passport bball players goes up which forces up everyone's pay.

I think the last few seasons show 1 gun import 3/4 really top line locals and or 5 good locals and fit imports around them.

I love the way we are thinking of ways to sack players already

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How is Vlahov a role player?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So anyway Ebe wont be cut no matter how bad he is. Joey's boy, but what about Kenyon, have heard some very worrying things about his game or lack there of, and god for bid being a business at this level, it would be important to know when the due date on potentially cutting him would be... anyone know if its from the day he signs in off season or 2months from the first game played in preseason or regular season...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It might be two months or 10 games can't remember when an import can be cut without their contract becoming guaranteed for the rest of the season.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just wondering Isaac, who asked for them to be cut? The question was more about finances. FYI, out of interest, where did you see both imports play (recently)?

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snooch  
Years ago

have heard some very worrying things about his game or lack there of,

And I've heard some really positive things about him and his game.
Let's just wait until a ball has been bounced in anger before worrying about cutting people FFS.

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Justin  
Years ago

No team can, especially now with the $US Dollar

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Transparency  
Years ago

indeed

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Silencer83  
Years ago

NZ 2014/15 - Jackson, Ibekwe; Cairns - Wilbekin, Craig
Perth 2013/14 - Beal, Ennis; Adelaide - Ervin, (Frye)
NZ 2012/13 - Jackson, Hudson; Perth - Lisch, (Dunigan)
NZ 2011/12 - Jackson, Wilkinson; Perth - Lisch
NZ 2010/11 - Braswell, Wilkinson; Cairns - Ubaka, Dorsey
Perth 2009/10 - Lisch, Young; Wollongong - (McKee), Gruber

At least one role playing import in every Grand Final since 2009/10

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koberulz  
Years ago

Who are you counting as a role player for 2011, 2012 and 2014?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wilkinson & Jackson.

Their roles: winning titles, baby!

;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not all those combos have role playing imports bench types. Plus some of the combos have one true superstar mvp type. The 6ers dont have that in either of their imports.

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Silencer83  
Years ago

2011 - Braswell and Dorsey
2012 - Okay they were all good
2014 - the shadow of Gary Ervin as Frye wasn't playing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They have 2 months from the first game to cut someone

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey has a pretty good eye for talent in the lower leagues. I'm backing Kenyon to be more than serviceable.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Based on DQ, i dont think I can agree with that.

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Yolo  
Years ago

DQ was injured and we never saw his potential. Frye carved up the pre season before hurting by his ankle which he never recovered from in time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Or more realistically Frye did well in the preseason when no one had seen him before and once the real stuff started and he had been scouted got worked out in pretty short order. Couldn't shoot to safe himself and didn't want to get fouled because he was a 29% FT shooter.

Both he and DQ were duds.

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Yolo  
Years ago

Crack isn't your friend

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is a reason he previously played in Iceland, Macedonia & *gulp* the ABA and that Montreal plays in the SEABL.



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anon  
Years ago

Might pay to check out how Brendan Teys, Nathan Sobey and Hodgson performed in SEABL compared to that dud DQ.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The question was can they afford to cut Kenyon. Joey would not cut Ebi.

If they can't afford to communicate or post on social media for free I am not sure they can afford to replace ???

Except of course two recents important posts about premier league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Teys Sobey etc are role players, like bonus material. DQ was brought in as an import, he was woeful, never was up to it... Frye I feel for because he could play some, but couldn't make a jump shot or free throw so when he did get injured that was it for him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why bring in a NBA second rounder who would instantly be a top 10 (5?) player in the league, when you can get a "solid" 34 year old instead

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha so true! Gotta go with what was tried and tested...... 8 years ago i guess.

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Tornado  
Years ago

FFS just let them play a couple of games and then make decisions. No point making decisions when you havent seen them play...if we made all of our decisions based on assumptions where would we be?!

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FYI  
Years ago

Isaac can you default the Anon's name to John Snow?

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Isaac  
Years ago

Why bring in a NBA second rounder who would instantly be a top 10 (5?) player in the league
Because "instantly" isn't how it necessarily works.

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paul  
Years ago

"Why bring in a NBA second rounder who would instantly be a top 10 (5?) player in the league."

Like DeAndre Daniels?

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KingJames  
Years ago

Exactly Paul. Unfortunately some fans don't understand reality.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Im not exactly overwhelmed with excitement at this import combo, but if DJ can play like an import, Kenyon mist probably will just be bonus material anyways in terms of what we need from him. Im more concerned Ebe may take away from Dj's offensive attack but thats for Joey to work out. No team with the Aussies we have will suck but will they be tall enough or have to give up way to much energy just to grab enough rebounds to compete come playoff time. Let it play out, NBL is never as scripted!

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