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Cal Bruton
Two years ago

#38172

Nate Jawai

Nate Jawai is on the prowl, watch out if you're in the way, listen to the hiss, listen to the growl, Nate Jawai is onnnnnnnn the prowl..

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/29787158/wildcats-wild-ride-to-the-top/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YE-GQnRpE8

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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:45 12 Oct 15

Reply #554391

re: Nate Jawai

er what has the wildcats rap got to do with a Jawai story in 2015. Odd.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:50 12 Oct 15

Reply #554393

re: Nate Jawai

To be honest, I've never seen this guy in shape. lol tho it never stopped him getting to the NBA and Europe.

That rap tho.... *raises concerned eyebrow*


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Jay B
Two years ago
18:51 12 Oct 15

Reply #554396

re: Nate Jawai

Lol... no idea, apart from Nate Jawai being onnnnnn da prowl.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:58 12 Oct 15

Reply #554399

re: Nate Jawai

Anon #393 true at this stage he will never be fit and play big minutes. But it was scary while he was out there how no one could stop him.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:00 12 Oct 15

Reply #554403

re: Nate Jawai

So much weight to throw around, no one else like him in the league. Beast.


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
19:04 12 Oct 15

Reply #554407

re: Nate Jawai

Get Kenny/Martin knocking down threes when teams double team Jawai and teams will have to stop double teaming him, then he will be scary.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:04 12 Oct 15

Reply #554408

re: Nate Jawai

too bad they both stink at threes


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:07 12 Oct 15

Reply #554411

re: Nate Jawai

I think the fact that they DO (or will) have Martin and Kenny out there with him is one of the big things that is going to limit how dominant he is..


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Luuuc
Two years ago
19:08 12 Oct 15

Reply #554412

re: Nate Jawai

Yeah, well ... get Wroe and Prather to knock down the threes then :p


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:08 12 Oct 15

Reply #554413

re: Nate Jawai

Considering he was almost unable to walk, he's doing ok for himself.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:09 12 Oct 15

Reply #554414

re: Nate Jawai

Is Anthony Stewart still around? ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:10 12 Oct 15

Reply #554416

re: Nate Jawai

or Ben Thompson? ;) oh wait he used to brick it up so scratch that


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Luuuc
Two years ago
19:11 12 Oct 15

Reply #554417

re: Nate Jawai

Back in Tassie last I heard. Pretty sure Trahair is still round though.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
19:11 12 Oct 15

Reply #554418

re: Nate Jawai

Jawai would work so well with a Stiendl or Gladden type to kick it too... man is unstoppable in so many ways. Great to see him doing well!


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Jay B
Two years ago
19:13 12 Oct 15

Reply #554422

re: Nate Jawai

Yeah last I heard, Stewie trying to revive NBL team from Tassie. Hope they revisit that under LK.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:14 12 Oct 15

Reply #554423

re: Nate Jawai

Trahair is an assistant with SBL Rockingham.


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paul
Two years ago
19:17 12 Oct 15

Reply #554426

re: Nate Jawai

If Damian Martin has one of his 50% seasons Jawai will be mighty tough to guard. I think Adelaide went about it wrong though, will be interested to see what the Breakers do.


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Andy
Two years ago
19:38 12 Oct 15

Reply #554431

re: Nate Jawai

Cant wait to see Nate v Majok


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:44 12 Oct 15

Reply #554432

re: Nate Jawai

How else could the 6ers defend Jawai, paul?


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Indominous-Rex
Two years ago
20:11 12 Oct 15

Reply #554438

re: Nate Jawai

Can't wait to see Jawai vs Khazzouh, now that will be interesting. Especially how both of those two players defend each other


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paul
Two years ago
20:54 12 Oct 15

Reply #554454

re: Nate Jawai

There are a lot of different options, but I thought they sent the double too early too often, allowing Nate to pick the rotating defence apart, which he did very well a number of times.

I suspect NZ will make Nate prove he can score one on one first, and then look to disrupt either by denying or sending the double once the ball is on the floor.


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Jrue
Two years ago
21:34 12 Oct 15

Reply #554456

re: Nate Jawai

So catchy and timeless... "Perth Wildcats are ONNNNN DA PROWL."


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:37 12 Oct 15

Reply #554458

re: Nate Jawai

If they hadnt have doubled him early and often... he literally wouldve dunked in been fouled by or shot over DJ. 6ers did well on him i thought. No other way you can defend him. Just imagine him on uniteds team with a whole bunch of pure shooters yikes!


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paul
Two years ago
21:45 12 Oct 15

Reply #554459

re: Nate Jawai

Lots of other ways to defend him. Just watch what teams do throughout the season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:06 12 Oct 15

Reply #554461

re: Nate Jawai

I was pleased to see jawai in a ' dominate ' mindset. Had only seen him play for boomers recently and he had been in role player mode as opposed to shaq mode


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Dazz
Two years ago
22:24 12 Oct 15

Reply #554462

re: Nate Jawai

People talk about him "being out of shape," but it' not like he's carrying a pot gut or bingo wings, he's just a BIG dude.

I'm a little surprised he's playing ball, and not 1st rower in Rugby League, but he's certainly a presence on court.

I watched the game on my phone, which was a bit like watching a ant's nest, so I'm looking forward to seeing him live.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
22:26 12 Oct 15

Reply #554463

re: Nate Jawai

Majok will get killed by Jawai. He struggled to handle both Conklin and Ogilvy, what do you think Jawai will do? It's a huge weakness for United.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
22:38 12 Oct 15

Reply #554464

re: Nate Jawai

www.wildcatsviews.com


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
22:44 12 Oct 15

Reply #554466

re: Nate Jawai

Thanks Luuuc!!!!!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:11 13 Oct 15

Reply #554473

re: Nate Jawai

Has actually looking like he's getting a bit of tone now in that huge frame of his.

Proving himself useful much earlier than I thought he would.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
00:19 13 Oct 15

Reply #554478

re: Nate Jawai

Based on what I saw of him with the Boomers I was always hopeful that he'd be useful from game 1. It was how long he could stay on the court that was the main worry, especially when an opponent tried to go into track meet mode, which many will try against our top-heavy lineup I expect.

21 minutes was a more than useful first game from him.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
04:29 13 Oct 15

Reply #554488

re: Nate Jawai

Paul c'mon now for conversations sake, please explain what other ways Jawai can be guarded? Im sure other teams will mix it up a bit, but really what else can you do exactly??


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XY
Two years ago
08:56 13 Oct 15

Reply #554508

re: Nate Jawai

Kobe, Sixers made mistakes on about three plays in a row with weak side players doubling and tripling Jawai, leaving perimeter players free shots (and in one case a back cutting guard an uncontested layup!)

You can't double Jawai if it involves leaving such big defensive gaps elsewhere as he is such a good passer out of the post. His pass is more far more dangerous than his short range game if you can keep yourself between him and the basket.

Gibson had some good examples of good double teams against Jawai, where he was hedging between defenders and Perth's spacing was not good enough to make him commit.

I agree with Paul in that you have to make Jawai prove he can score on you in the post routinely and regularly as his touch from 3-5 feet is suspect (can't let Hire or Knight grab the boards though) and he is prone to getting charge calls if he can't get past you.

Only a couple of Jawai's scores came from genuinely beating his opponent in the low block. As long as those shots are challenged, you would give those up. If he gets around you, well it is goodnight, so you just have to keep a body in front of him.

He presents a unique defensive challenge in this league, but it is far from insurmountable. Teams around the world have been playing against him for years with reasonable success, otherwise he would average 90% shooting every game. The Sixers did a good job at certain times in the game, and lost it entirely at others.

Offensive teams are going to score points, it is just a matter of the defence choosing the lesser evil as to what looks you want them to get off.


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XY
Two years ago
08:59 13 Oct 15

Reply #554509

re: Nate Jawai

It is actually defensively where Jawai was more damaging last Saturday. Wow did he change a few shots.


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Bear
Two years ago
09:00 13 Oct 15

Reply #554510

re: Nate Jawai

Isn't it great that we can have so much conversation about an Aussie in the NBL, being one of the more dominant players in our own league :)


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Kobe24
Two years ago
09:38 13 Oct 15

Reply #554516

re: Nate Jawai

Triple teaming him is not the good intact its down right suicidal. The RIGHT guy has to come for the double or hedge like Gibbo was able to do, but going solo wouldve meant major foul trouble for DJ... Its up to the coaching staff to have strict rules on who is to help out and when, the multiple times its stuffed up should've been eradicated before it got to 3 times! But the principal is good i believe. Shaw didn't get a lot of single coverage and for good reason. He is too big, he wont need to prove he can shoot as he will be at the line 9 times out of 10. And yeah Bear agreed its refreshing to be able to talk about a Aussie star, lost of things have flipped for this NBL season!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:54 13 Oct 15

Reply #554520

re: Nate Jawai

The stupidity was doubling Jawai in the first place, what's he going to do with single coverage?


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Luuuc
Two years ago
09:58 13 Oct 15

Reply #554523

re: Nate Jawai

Let's not act like the guy is unstoppable.
I'm looking forward to watching his battle with Pledger. If he plays smart I think he's physically capable of competing with Nate.


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XY
Two years ago
09:59 13 Oct 15

Reply #554524

re: Nate Jawai

Kobe24, DJ getting major foul trouble - Seriously?

He had two fouls for the game. TWO. One of those was in the first 23 seconds of the game. 30 seconds later, he defended Jawai face up and drew a charge. You don't think he could have afforded to get a few more fouls?

Petrie had 3 fouls. Hodgson was the only Sixer in foul trouble, but I don't recall those fouls having anything to do with Jawai.

Not saying you don't ever double Jawai, of course you do, but you choose your poisons and you mix it up.

We get it, Jawai is a great player, but you are making out like he is the real Shaq in mid 90's form playing in the NBL.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:28 13 Oct 15

Reply #554530

re: Nate Jawai

United v Jawai.

Playsome minutes with Kickert at the 5, Blanchfield at the 4 in a 2-3 zone.

United will give up o boards and get sealed by Jawai although you should be able to force Perth to make outside shots.

On Offense Jawai is left with guarding Kickert in a pick n pop with Holt or Bubbles. Good luck with that.


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Camel 31
Two years ago
10:40 13 Oct 15

Reply #554533

re: Nate Jawai

In a small league, the excitement is like steam in a kettle.


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POP
Two years ago
12:02 13 Oct 15

Reply #554548

re: Nate Jawai

I'd love to see Jawai consistently fronted with a tall, agile player. Force the team to consistently pass over the defender to get the ball to him which is THE toughest pass to make.

Of course, for that to work we would need the refs to stop ball watching and call the two-handed pushes.

The other aspect to Nate's 'effectiveness' is his footwork. He won't be nearly so 'effective' if he is not allowed to take three and four steps with the ball - sometimes while running straight through a defender!

Against the 365ERS he was most effective later in the game when he became a ball distributor out of the post, which goes back to my 'fronting' defence suggestion.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:23 13 Oct 15

Reply #554551

re: Nate Jawai

With Ennis, Childress, Wilbekin, Warrick, etc in recent years, lets hope its the start to an upward trend, but I agree, league and media needs more promotion of these guys..

The downside of some of these guys is that they'll likely be "one and done" season guys, need some way to retain, esp vets like Childress / Warrick.

The other side is also bringing our best Aussies back to the league. Competition with the Europe league will be tough.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:24 13 Oct 15

Reply #554552

re: Nate Jawai

^ Sorry wrong thread.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:00 13 Oct 15

Reply #554568

re: Nate Jawai

Xy you dont think he stayed of foul trouble because of the help defence?? We lose Dj with the way our other go to scorer is thesedays we were toast. 2 early fouls for DJ and if that charge had been called a block or the next time it was then thats game...


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:02 13 Oct 15

Reply #554570

re: Nate Jawai

Im just saying don't let him get going make there 'shooters' beat you, best way to do that is get him to move the ball via a double. He has that potential to destroy a man on the post, so best to limit his touches i say...


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paul
Two years ago
14:16 13 Oct 15

Reply #554574

re: Nate Jawai

Doubling isn't necessarily a bad option, although I'd make him score a few baskets over a defender first, but it's how you double. Watch what Adelaide did at about 4.10 in the final term with Creek arriving late, that is a shot I'm not sure Jawai can hit regularly.

There a lots of other ways to skin the double team cat, a good one is forcing baseline and sending the help defence from that side.

A big issue for Adelaide was they got themselves in rotations guarding the ball screen and then weren't organised enough to cover mismatches in the block.


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Wilbur The Cat
Two years ago
14:21 13 Oct 15

Reply #554576

re: Nate Jawai

I look forward to see some Black Tornado alley oops Shaq Style from Beal to Jawai..


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:22 13 Oct 15

Reply #554578

re: Nate Jawai

Agreed with that Paul, its the type of double team and specifically who and where it comes from at what time spacing wise. Adelaide perhaps panicked a bit and just sent it for the sake of it, but if they had a better strategy it could've been highly effective. My take is the mentality is right to send the double just about every time, but not from anywhere, he isn't that unstoppable, unless he develops a long rang jumper then we are all stuffed at his size haha


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paul
Two years ago
14:27 13 Oct 15

Reply #554579

re: Nate Jawai

Yeah, if he starts banging triples just post the trophy to Perth!

Having looked at the replay, it was obvious defensive mistakes earlier in the possession which led to the double being ineffective, because the next layer of rotation wasn't where it needed to be.

Definitely interested in seeing how NZ approach it though. Do they start Pledger and go one-on-one coverage?


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Camel 31
Two years ago
15:52 13 Oct 15

Reply #554602

re: Nate Jawai

At the Boomers , alley oops from Mills to Jawai..-..I was just hoping the ring would stay on.


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Dazz
Two years ago
18:39 13 Oct 15

Reply #554642

re: Nate Jawai

Going to be interesting to watch Nate with the Perth crowd behind him. If he starts to impose himself, the crowd will go off


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Mike
Two years ago
18:44 13 Oct 15

Reply #554643

re: Nate Jawai

Yes! Basketball is back in Perth!

Oh wait, it never left. ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:03 13 Oct 15

Reply #554668

re: Nate Jawai

Maybe Adelaide went with a straight aggressive double team approach to effectively dare the weak shooting cats to shoot 3s. Beal and redhage did got some tough ones to blow that strategy up


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:10 13 Oct 15

Reply #554669

re: Nate Jawai

There's no way Jawai could get high enough to catch a lob surely


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:33 13 Oct 15

Reply #554688

re: Nate Jawai

Jawai is too good a passer to triple team him.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:34 13 Oct 15

Reply #554689

re: Nate Jawai

'Yes! Basketball is back in Perth!

Oh wait, it never left. ;)'

It was a bit lame last year, mate.

Jawai has me excited again.


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Mike
Two years ago
12:24 14 Oct 15

Reply #554790

re: Nate Jawai

I think we were just spoilt by Ennis. True, now that we have Jawai, extra excited. Hope Prather heats up too.


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Bear
Two years ago
12:33 14 Oct 15

Reply #554792

re: Nate Jawai

I always thought the best way to reduce the influence on a guy like Jawai was to attack him offensively and get him into early foul trouble!

Not super sophisticated I know, but could be more effective because I don't think he would be the same on 4 fouls in the last quarter, just saying...


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POP
Two years ago
12:35 14 Oct 15

Reply #554793

re: Nate Jawai

And, while I'm a Nate fan, I'll say it again ... based on what I saw in Adelaide, if he is required to play by the rules of the game, including the footwork rule, he won't be the force people believe he can be. I know he has quick feet, but that doesn't mean he should be allowed to take three and four steps with the ball, even if they're quick steps, or run through defenders.


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Bear
Two years ago
12:38 14 Oct 15

Reply #554794

re: Nate Jawai

Actually, I noticed that too, the replays showed him to travel quite a bit, but officials turn a blind eye for some players don't they?

#LeBronwalkseverywhere


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Jamie
Two years ago
13:01 14 Oct 15

Reply #554804

re: Nate Jawai

A lot of travels are uncalled in the NBA.

Stopping the flow of the game and stars not scoring = not exciting. ;)


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