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RMQ
Two years ago

#38320

Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Was bored last night so ripped some footage from VHS.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYy17oJVlGw&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

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RMQ
Two years ago
11:19 28 Oct 15

Reply #558857

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

EDIT: Should be "SUNS" not "Crocs" my bad.


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Train
Two years ago
11:23 28 Oct 15

Reply #558860

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Awesome, thanks heaps for that. Ill take a look tonight :P


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Tyrell
Two years ago
12:02 28 Oct 15

Reply #558868

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

the old PEC has a Perth Arena look about it (or vice-versa)!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:45 28 Oct 15

Reply #558873

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

LOL at not throwing out your VHS tapes years ago


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:46 28 Oct 15

Reply #558874

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Tyrell nahhh. PEC had the lights off, Arena is lit. Would rather the former.


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RMQ
Two years ago
12:47 28 Oct 15

Reply #558877

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

The old PEC was head and shoulders above Perth Arena for Basketball games IMO.

Their house lighting and sound system was far superior to the Perth Arena house gear.

I like how everyone was so close to the action. Perth Arena has that massive gap between the court and bowl seating.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:51 28 Oct 15

Reply #558879

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Half a billy doesn't get you much these days. Quite sad really when you look at the cost and what we have got for it.


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koberulz
Two years ago
13:48 28 Oct 15

Reply #558902

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

@RMQ: There was a huge gap between the court and seats at the PEC, too. Remember they turned the court 90 degrees when Vlahov took over.

I don't recall the exact numbers, but I did have them at one point and I'm fairly sure the front row at the PEC was further from the floor than the front row at the Arena, but they were pretty similar.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:52 28 Oct 15

Reply #558903

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Haha at having the measurements at one point. Only you koberulz, only you.

Overall ambience at PEC was better though.


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RMQ
Two years ago
14:01 28 Oct 15

Reply #558906

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

The lighting and PEC is what made it a spectacle.

The fact that stadium wasn't bright blue also makes a massive difference.

Also the camera angles. Notice no under the basket useless baseline camera.

The camera on the baseline is much closer to the sideline.

Also a camera along the sideline. Both have a much better effect.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:08 28 Oct 15

Reply #558908

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Bright blue was a horrible choice. $550mil what


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Air Goorjian
Two years ago
15:45 28 Oct 15

Reply #558924

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

I think you guys need to understand the Wildcats aren't the only tenants..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:48 28 Oct 15

Reply #558926

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

It doesn't suit tennis or concerts or anything for that matter.


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Air Goorjian
Two years ago
16:08 28 Oct 15

Reply #558931

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

All a matter of individual opinion I suppose.


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RMQ
Two years ago
17:00 28 Oct 15

Reply #558942

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Yes the wildcats aren't the only tenants.

What would be the best color for all tenants given there is such a variety?

Bright blue or black?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:06 28 Oct 15

Reply #558943

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

WA state government were arrogant when negotiations took place. They probably thought Wildcats wouldn't make a go of it so well at the Arenea. Throughout they didn't take the club seriously. What they didn't realise is a well run basketball club for an indoor stadium is the primary tenant, your most stable income source.

Look at other venues Sydney Entertainment Centre purple seating catering to the Kings not acting like snobs to a good tenant.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:07 28 Oct 15

Reply #558944

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Black definitely, a neutral colour. Blue isn't even neutral and means nothing to any of the events there.


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Pat
Two years ago
17:08 28 Oct 15

Reply #558945

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

I have no problems with the blue.. nice and bright new arena and makes the Red Army stand out more.


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RMQ
Two years ago
17:49 28 Oct 15

Reply #558954

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

U don't want an arena to stand out on the inside. You are at an arena for a performance. Not the blue aesthetics ;)


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koberulz
Two years ago
17:53 28 Oct 15

Reply #558956

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Blue isn't even neutral and means nothing to any of the events there.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:56 28 Oct 15

Reply #558957

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Are people really sitting there worrying about the wall colour?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:58 28 Oct 15

Reply #558958

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

"U don't want an arena to stand out on the inside. You are at an arena for a performance. Not the blue aesthetics ;)"

At least one person gets it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:01 28 Oct 15

Reply #558959

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Why haven't the Wildcats played an open air game yet? For the so called marketing darlings of the league this is one idea glaringly absent with such a stadium!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:03 28 Oct 15

Reply #558961

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

That is a criticism that glaringly absent of any logic.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 28 Oct 15

Reply #558963

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

dat that that that


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Pat
Two years ago
18:06 28 Oct 15

Reply #558964

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

I believe Nick Marvin said it was an OHS issue, bird sh!t could hit the floor and Big Nate could slip on it.


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Pat
Two years ago
18:07 28 Oct 15

Reply #558965

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

... and crush Jerome Randle.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:07 28 Oct 15

Reply #558966

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Yet not an issue for the Hopman Cup? Good one, Nick.


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:08 28 Oct 15

Reply #558967

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Players hated open air games when they had them in Melbourne 15 years ago, and they'd have to find somewhere else to put the scoreboard and lighting rigs.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:12 28 Oct 15

Reply #558971

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Excuses excuses. Nothing is easy in life.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:13 28 Oct 15

Reply #558972

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Your mum is.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:14 28 Oct 15

Reply #558974

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Your dad is.


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Ricky
Two years ago
18:15 28 Oct 15

Reply #558975

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

If it's a 40 degree day, would rather air con.

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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:17 28 Oct 15

Reply #558976

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Yeah let's have an open air game on a 40 degree day. Good one.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:17 28 Oct 15

Reply #558978

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Ricky suggesting an open air day on a 40 degree day (Brain Injury)


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Ricky
Two years ago
18:22 28 Oct 15

Reply #558979

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Did you guys read that properly. I said I would rather indoor and Air con instead..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:24 28 Oct 15

Reply #558980

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

What year was the highlights of the game from?

I was probably at the game.


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Train
Two years ago
18:24 28 Oct 15

Reply #558981

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

No matter what colour the Arena was painted you would still get same idiots whinging about the same thing. Some people are never satisfied.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:25 28 Oct 15

Reply #558982

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Obviously on a 40c day they wouldn't open it even if it were planned. Like when it rained in Melb they scrapped it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:26 28 Oct 15

Reply #558983

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Let's get back to the original topic at hand please which is of way more importance

OP was using VHS!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:41 28 Oct 15

Reply #558995

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Anon is particularly stupid today.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:45 28 Oct 15

Reply #558999

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Supernintendo is particularly stupid every day.


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:47 28 Oct 15

Reply #559004

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Let's get back to the original topic at hand please which is of way more importance

OP was using VHS!
Exactly what were you expecting a game from 1998 to have been recorded on?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:49 28 Oct 15

Reply #559007

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

on a VHS, which was tossed in the bin back in 2004.


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Dazz
Two years ago
20:18 28 Oct 15

Reply #559094

re: Ricky Grace & 90s Wildcats Vs Derek Rucker/Crocs

Thanks for the Vid, will watch later.

On the Venues, its funny. PEC seats were much nicer, suitable for an entertainment venue. Back in those days the Cats played in Black and Gold. Changed to Black & Red when Coke became their major sponsor in the mid 90's.

I don't know about the Wildcats being a "major" tenant. We play what ~15 games there a year depending. There's a LOT more concert events than that.
The problem with the Arena is that it was purpose built for one event, the Hopman cup. Despite the fact that the Hopman cup was conceived and always played at the Dome, a pressurised indoor venue, a condition of our keeping the event was building an open roof arena. Apparently its ok to play tennis on a synthetic surface, but you must do in in the sun. Not only did that drastically increase the cost, it necessitated much of the inside design.
And the shitty plastic seats.
Still, as a sporting venue, it is absolutely first class.

My old issue with the blue, is that EVERYTHING is blue, and the walls etc are a really bright blue. Seriously, some muted tones would be nice.

That said, I like the contrast with the red. If you made the seats red, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.


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